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#10368 From: "Suzanne" <sgangel_2005@...>
Date: Wed May 7, 2008 11:56 am
Subject: ~ A Special Invitation - Please Join Me On Yuwie.Com! Thanks! :D ~
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~ A Special Invitation - Please Join Me On Yuwie.Com! Thanks! :D ~

Hello there! :) This is your Paranormal pal, Sue here. And I hope
that everyone in here is doing well! :D I don't Normally Invite
people to come join websites, but I was wondering if you would do me
a favor & take a Closer look at the following website below. It's
basically a lot like Myspace, (you can actually make your Entire
profile completely Private if that is what you wish to...& you can
add just about anything to it just as you would with your Myspace
page too.) eccept for one Huge difference. Believe this or Not, you
can actually (and ligetimately I may add) makes ome real momey in
your spare time in Yuwie too, are wellas make a few New Paranormal
friends online too! As for myself, I've been there since Dec.
2007.....so Yeah, I can actually say that this is a ligetimate
website otherwise I would Not be a part of this nor would I actually
be Inviting all of you to come join it too.) This is very ligetimate
& you not only can talk with other people, make a few New Paranomal
friends in there but you can also make some real money while your
online SAFELY & Ligetimately.....while your in here all in your spare
time. Like I have already stated....I've actually been in Yuwie.com
since Dec. 2007 & was hoping that at least some of you in here would
want to take a closer look at the website for yourself. This is 100%
completely FREE to join too, & the Best part of all this is that
there's also a section within this website where you can actually
Join & participate in Other people's Paranormal User websites, so
being a part of this Yuwie website actually does have it's advantages
too! And of course You will also have the ability to decorate your
personal Yuwie profile to whatever theme as You wish, just as you can
do on Myspace. And the other reason why I wanted to invite you to
take a look was to be able to have all of You a little closer to me
in there too. But Please excuse the cheesy animated dude....(I never
really like that part of the website too much...) & Please take your
time to read through everything while your there too. Like I already
stated above, a;; of this is 100% Ligetimate, & if it wasn't, I would
Not be would Not be Inviting you to at least take a closer look at it
for this is really all I am asking. And by the way, my personal
PRIVATELY set Yuwie.com profile is actually listed under my
simplegurl1969@... email address, just in care you May bee
lookking for it or better yet, just click on the User link that I'm
adding for you below! This will take you straight to Yuwie.com! I
also do hope that everyone is doing well in here & I also wish that
everyone will take care, for now & Please just take a closer look at
this too. Take care! :D

Here's the Link to get You into the Yuwie website, Enjoy! :D

http://r.yuwie.com/simplegurl1969

Your Yahoo Paranormal friend.....

~ SUE ~

sgangel_2005@...

#10367 From: "stealthskaters" <stealthskaters@...>
Date: Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:34 pm
Subject: 'Shadow People'
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After seeing another photo of an alleged "shadow man" posted on
C2CAM, I decided to research this subject a little since it
conceivably could tie into other mind/conscious phenomena such as Out-
of-Body Experiences, Near-Death Experiences, Lucid Dreaming, remote-
viewing, etc.  (I commented on these before at
http://wyzwyrlde.com/Forums/viewtopic/t=1707.html ).  Every now&then,
I myself see something which could be a "shadow person" out of the
corner of my eye.  But it happens so infrequently and my eye has
accumulated "floaters" with age that I normally just dismiss it. It
does give me a temporary creepy feeling which I just attribute to
being momentarily scared.

1. sample photo from C2CAM
(http://www.coasttocoastam.com/gen/page2516.html?theme=light )
2. (as defined by Wikipedia -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_people )
3. (from About.com: Paranormal -
http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa022502a.htm )
4. Science discovers "Shadow People"
(http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/node/686 )
5. (from AssociatedContent.com -
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/362588/hauntings_what_are_sha
dow_people.html )

[Note that the all of the above articles have been archived as MS-
Word documents at http://www.stealthskater.com/PX.htm#Shadow ]

Article #4 (above) is particularly interesting as it gives a medical
explanation for many occurrences of these (and potentially other
NDE/OBE/RV/Lucid etc.) experiences.  Indeed, I have heard that the
famed 1980 UK Rendlesham Forest UFO incident
(http://www.stealthskater.com/UFO.htm#Woodbridge ) was in fact a
pyschological warfare test.  If true, it begs the question how did
the UFO images get implanted in all of the soldiers' consciousnesses.

Rumors persist that the Betty&Barney Hill UFO abduction case was yet
another test of the same psychological "mind-control" technique
(http://www.stealthskater.com/UFO.htm#ZetaReticula ).  Which makes
you wonder what was in those pills that former NSA ELINT Sgt. Dan
Sherman took in his alleged Project Preserve Destiny "intuitive
comms" (http://www.stealthskater.com/Sherman.htm ).

Some researchers like Martin Cannon
(http://www.stealthskater.com/PX.htm#Cannon ) have always felt that
mind-control manipulations were more likely the cause of UFO
sightings etc. I know that the military recently announced that it
has the capability of projecting voices/sounds into the
consciousness. Perhaps they can do images as well into people who
either have a "natural" expanded consciousness ability or those who
have been artificially induced with one (e.g., drugs).

(originally posted at =>
http://wyzwyrlde.com/Forums/viewtopic/t=1715.html )

#10366 From: "stealthskaters" <stealthskaters@...>
Date: Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:34 pm
Subject: a psychic drug - UFO connection?
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In researching links between nuclear "events" and UFO sightings, I
came across another excellent essay by Philip Coppens (whose other
articles I archived at
http://www.stealthskater.com/UFO.htm#Coppens ). And it added yet
another twist.

He makes a good case that psychic powers (natural and enhanced by
drugs or RF-shielding copper "Faraday cages") results in paranormal
events including UFO sightings.  And if I'm interpreting his argument
correctly, these visions may be in another realm/dimension outside of
our own space-time (which would explain why some people see UFOs and
others don't).

He bases his thesis on the evolving story of remote-viewing programs
in the U.S.  Although this has been related before at
http://www.stealthskater.com/PX.htm#RV , his essay seems to do a
better job at bringing all of the facts and different players
together.  Coppens' take seems to reflect those of Martin Cannon who
wrote on MK-ULTRA and other such CIA/DIA programs
(http://www.stealthskater.com/PX.htm#Cannon ).

It was presented as a 3-part essay on 3 different webpages.  As usual
in my archiving efforts, I made it easier to read (shorter sentences,
etc.) and added comments to other areas ("Project Preserve Destiny",
the Montauk Project, "Project Looking Glass") where appropriate.  I
finished by adding another article which detailed the Carl Jung -
Wolfgang Pauli collaboration that Mr. Coppens touched upon in his
essay.

My 60-page Word .document is archived at
http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/Coppens_13.doc .

(The original essay appeared at
http://www.philipcoppens.com/starconundrum_1.html and "the Psycho-
Physical Relationship Between Radioactivity and UFOs" article at
http://www.psychovision.ch/synw/radioactive_decay_and_ufos.htm .)

Maybe General Relativity does rule and the only way we can interact
with other world civilizations is through things like remote-
viewing.  If true, it appears that major governments have been
using "UFOs" to cover-up paranormal research activity.

Still, the mass public sightings started after the first atomic bomb
explosions in 1945 and seemed to end with the worldwide nuclear test
moratorium in the later 1980s.  (There was even a TV documentary
narrated by Leonard Nimoy ["Mr. Spock" himself!] titled "Where Are
All The UFOs?"  I saw it in 1995.)  That seems to imply there is some
sort of connection between nuke "events" (detonations or
weapons' "priming") and UFO sightings.

Perhaps "UFOs" are either created (Reich's "orgone" or
Pitkanen's "plasmoids") by something resulting from converting mass
into energy (via E=mc2) or allowed entrance via a temporary
interdimensional portal.  Maybe the remote-viewing psychic drugs
allow better detection of them; maybe they exist after all. Dr. Fred
Alan Wolf admitted a possible dimensional "bleedthrough" in
the "Bosoks Project" (http://www.stealthskater.com/Bolt.htm ) which
was allegedly shared with Hollywood.

And this all could be related to the alleged worldwide drug trade by
the U.S., Britain, France and others as alleged in the
NEXUS "Pegasus" article
(http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/Pegasus_1.doc ).

Maybe Kennedy was assassinated because he was going to reveal
that "UFOs" were just a cover for the secret funds obtained through
this drug trade (if true) that allowed the industrial-military
complex to sidestep congressional oversight.

Or maybe the UFOs (assuming they were real and came into existence
because of the nuke events) were "held in check" by massive Tesla
type machinery which was expensive to operate. No more nuke tests, no
more UFOs, and no more monies needed (just keep the covert projects
going and divert the revenues somewhere else).

Not only does the rabbit hole go deep … but it also has many side
tunnels ...

(originally posted at =>
http://wyzwyrlde.com/Forums/viewtopic/t=1716.html )

#10365 From: "stealthskaters" <stealthskaters@...>
Date: Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:33 pm
Subject: Wilhelm Reich's book-burning
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taken from a couple of private emails:
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>>Hello. I just encountered your very interesting website and the
informative and fair-minded article on Wilhelm Reich. Some minor
corrections …
>>
>>In Europe, Reich was expelled from the Psychoanalytical
Association -- not the Psychiatric Association.
>>
>>In the bion experiments, I think it's incorrect to say he worked
on "radioactive bion cultures." The unexpected and unknown radiation
from the bion cultures was not radioactivity and led Reich to the
discovery of orgone energy.
>>
>>The name of his estate in Maine is Orgonon -- not Organon.

> Hi Jonathan --
>
> Thanks for your input on Reich. I will make those corrections once
I find what archived documents they were in.
>
> "Where there's smoke, there is usually fire." I find it most
interesting that (1) the U.S. Government ordered all of Reich's books
burned; (2) the same authorities confiscated much of Tesla's private
works after his death; and (3) when the worldwide moratorium on above-
  and below-ground nuclear testing was declared in the late 80s, there
were no more mass UFO sightings.
>
> On my own, I found rumors of a small-but-secret part of the
standard DOE "Q" clearance that relates to "UFOs". And some effects
of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki blasts remain top-secret to this day
despite having nothing to do with the physics, engineering,
thermodynamics blast effects, or biological effects of nuclear
detonations.
>
> Tom Bearden has postulated that radioactivity can be "neutralized"
in 13 minutes (thereby eliminating the need for long-term nuclear
waste storage). I don't know if Reich's work touched upon these top-
secret "conventional" nuclear effects or if some unknown energy can
interact with the them. Whatever it is, it was declared "taboo" by
the authorities along with Tesla's "scalar" stuff.

The corrections are due to a long biographical article by a Dr.
Cantwell (or something close to that).

On the book burning, Reich had the unenviable distinction of having
his books burned by the governments of the USSR, Germany, and U.S.
Each time ostensibly for different reasons. "Counter-revolutionary
propaganda" in USSR; "Jewish filth" in Nazi Germany; "Labeling for an
unapproved medical device" in the U.S.

In this country, the rationale developed as follows. Sellers
of "snake oil" used to label their merchandise with spurious or
unsubstantiated medical claims and were prosecuted on the basis
of "false labeling". They learned to omit the claims on the bottle's
label and print them on a brochure supplied separately. So the FDA
had the laws changed so that any printed material (e.g., ad,
brochure, journal article, book) issued by the seller which alludes
to an unapproved drug or medical device can be considered labeling
for that drug or device.

When the FDA won an injunction against Reich and Silvert defining the
orgone accumulator as an unapproved medical device, then all of
Reich's work that contained a reference to "orgone accumulators" (or
even orgone energy) could be considered 'labeling' and could be
destroyed. If Reich had chosen to edit out all such references (i.e.,
censor himself), the books could have remained in print. Reich
understandably refused to do that and even declined to identify the
several books written before the discovery of orgone energy and
containing no references to it. The FDA had no interest in doing so.
Thus everything was burned.

What needs to be emphasized is that the injunction was against Reich,
Silvert, and an organization (I forget the name). And only against
them. It is concerned with their labeling of an unapproved medical
device that they introduced into interstate commerce. It does not
enjoin you or me or anyone else from any behavior regarding orgone
accumulators or writing about them. Current manufacturers of orgone
accumulators are safe as long as they don't make medical claims about
them. All of Reich's books are currently in print without any
omissions because the publisher is not manufacturing a medical device.

Reich's Oranur experiment deals with the interaction of orgone and
nuclear material. Very big and scary results reported but never
replicated. [StealthSkater note: is this the link between "UFOs" and
nuke events that I've been writing about for so long?]

Somewhere around here, I have an article on neutron bombardment of
radioactive wastes. The process is postulated to be self sustaining
and transmutes the material into a non-radioactive isotope or
element. It appeared in "Infinite Energy" a few years ago.

I don't have the math or physics background to follow Bearden. But I
am convinced by John Bedini's work that Bearden knows much that's
important. I do remember, however, that in the 1980s he was quite
insistent on the existence of menacing Tesla scalar weapons in the
USSR. With the upheavals of perestroika and the break up of the USSR
which resulted in a large number of unemployed physicists, we would
have heard more about it if it were true.
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Reich is archived at http://www.stealthskater.com/PX.htm#Reich .

Some have alleged that a weather-modifying "radiosonde" (based on
Reich's 'OR' and 'DOR' theories) combined with the Philadelphia
Experiment's "Project Rainbow" eventually led to "Project Phoenix" I,
II, and III which became collectively known as the Montauk Project.

I suspect that there is a link between Reich's "orgone" and what
Matti Pitkanen calls "[UFO] plasmoids"
(http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/TGD_01.doc ) as postulated by
his TopologicalGeometroDynamics (TGD) theory
(http://www.stealthskater.com/Pitkanen.htm ).

(originally posted at =>
http://wyzwyrlde.com/Forums/viewtopic/t=1718.html )

#10364 From: "stealthskaters" <stealthskaters@...>
Date: Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:32 pm
Subject: the 'real' Philadelphia Experiment (according to EE Bob Beckwith)
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Bob Beckwith is an electrical engineer who holds many patents (many
of which are in the military naval arena).  He wrote a book that
claimed the real Philadelphia Experiment involved a minesweeper and
not a destroyer.  Plus the locale was not around Philadelphia.

All of this was based on something that Tesla accidentally discovered
on his workbench in 1899.  The application of strong magnetic fields
caused an object to move backwards along a pre-established history
time path.

Advanced German mines were causing problems for the Allied in WWII.
Their magnetic-homing mines would be anchored at the sea floor and
released after counting so many ships in a convoy.  When they
surfaced, the ships had no time for evasive action.

It was the intent of this new technology -- according to Beckwith who
said that he personally oversaw the Experiment -- to allow the
minesweepers to retrace their path (so to speak) so they would have a
better chance of detonating the mines safely. They only need 10
minutes-or-so.

But what they got was 2 WEEKS! Plus all the side effects that
happened to the crew that goes along with the regular P-X story. And
it was never the intent to make a ship "radar invisible".  That was
one of the accidental side effects to a physical object undergoing
this pseudo-teleportation/timetravel.

I first heard of his book from an interview he did with
Alexandra "Chica" Bruce for her excellent book (The Philadelphia
Experiment Murder).  Her interview -- along with Tim Ventura's
("American AntiGravity") review and Beckwith's ebook -- is archived
at http://www.stealthskater.com/PX.htm#Chica .

(Tim Ventura [of "American AntiGravity"] reviewed the book at
http://www.americanantigravity.com/articles/338/1/The-Other-
Philadelphia-Experiment/Page1.html .  In case my #Chica link doesn't
work, Beckwith's .pdf ebook is at
http://www.beckwithelectric.com/ber/Ltt.pdf .  He was selling it for
$20 hardcopy but has made it available as free online ebook. Dan
Sherman originally did the same thing with his Above Black: Project
Preserve Destiny but has apparently since retracted the offer.  You
might also want to scroll a couple of lines up from this position on
the webpage to read WWII vet Bob King's account which seems to
validate Beckwith's story in spots.)

Beckwith's tale reminds me of Corso's book.  (Indeed, Beckwith
mentions Corso in his book and said that Corso told him personally of
the "Experiment".)  Some incredible stories mixed in with a lot of
personal job duties. The skeptics would say a good recipe for
disinformation.

(To me, it was so much what Beckwith said but what he didn't comment
on. He hinted that it would surprise him if research into eliminating
the disastrous effects on the crew was not pursued.  This was
allegedly the purpose of Project Phoenix which later became the
Montauk Project.  This is not front-page news anymore.  Surely he has
heard of these guys. But he didn't comment on it.  Did everything
else but, however!)

It is rare to find one of these people with so much government
service to come forward in their "prime" (i.e., working years and not
after they have long retired).  Like Bob Lazar did.  It makes you
wonder if they are supplementing their pensions with doing some
service -- and not "whistleblowing" to ease their consciences before
they die -- for their former employers.  Plus you always see them at
UFO conferences but in the role of an aloof observer rather than an
active participant.  (Read Mike D'Agostino's account of meeting
Beckwith at such a conference at the #Chica link.)

Note that there supposedly exists a "scalarized" [i.e., Tesla]
version of Maxwell's EM equations.  Beckwith also hints about this
somewhat in his book.  (I've seen more "formal" essays in other
places.)  And he goes on to talk about the "realities" that the human
eye captures vs. those that are caught on film.  Something to do with
his conjectures of "time" and "neutrino wave packets".  These may
help to explain "UFOs", "rods", and "shadow people".

If any of the P-X tales of Beckwith and others is true, it's not too
hard to imagine all the possible offshoots and other projects that
this base technology could offer (e.g., weather-control, stealth
ECM/ECCM, 3D holographic projections, remote-influencing, earthquake
generators, Macroscopic quantum tunneling, ...).  And they appear to
be centered more on the consciousness/timeline aspects than Macro-
sized physical objects.  Perhaps like "Project Preserve Destiny"
(http://www.stealthskater.com/Sherman.htm ); or "Project Looking
Glass" (http://www.stealthskater.com/UFO.htm#LookingGlass ); or
the "Bosoks Project" (http://www.stealthskater.com/Bolt.htm#Bosoks );
or Consciousness "engineering"
(http://www.stealthskater.com/Consciousness.htm )

Just imagine the security classification nightmare that this would
present to some overseerer.  I mean, does anybody really keep track
of each unique "on a need to know" security item/project?  If so, who
specifically?  I personally think the system has some loopholes in it
that allows some things to escape oversight and control.

(originally posted at =>
http://wyzwyrlde.com/Forums/viewtopic/t=1720.html )

#10363 From: "phanaticalphantastical" <timetoteach@...>
Date: Sun Apr 13, 2008 1:14 am
Subject: UFO's MAGIC and MYSTICISM EVENT ~ Universal City, CA. ~ Noory, Maxwell, Strieber
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GEORGE NOORY WITH JORDAN MAXWELL, WHITLEY STRIEBER, DR. ROGER LEIR AND
JAY WEIDNER

"UFOs, MAGIC AND MYSTICISM IN HOLLYWOOD"

ON MAY 17th IN UNIVERSAL CITY, CA.

TICKETS NOW ON SALE

             COAST TO COAST A.M. Popular radio personality George Noory
will moderate a panel of renowned authors and scholars on the
alternative subjects of aliens and the occult at a special event,
"UFOs, Magic and
Mysticism in Hollywood."

Noory best known as the longtime host of the nationally syndicated
radio show "Coast To Coast AM,"
             Audience members will be offered new findings and decipher
with the panel the various occult messages concealed in
popular Hollywood films. The panel includes:
             Dr. Roger Leir, a surgeon who is reputed to have extracted
alien implants from reported former UFO abductees;
             Whitley Strieber "Communion" "THE Greys"
             Jay Weidner "Secrets of Alchemy: The Great Cross and the
End of Time";
             Jordan Maxwell, "ZEITGEIST MOVIE" pre-eminent researcher
and scholar in the areas of the origins of major world religions,
secret societies, occult philosophies and UFOs;

             Producing the event is Sacred Mysteries Live, the group
behind the recent successful 2012 Conference Hollywood.

    Universal City, CA on Saturday, May 17, 2008 at 7:30 p.m.
  Doors open at 7 p.m.
             For tickets and info, call (800) 984-0897
TICKETS AT
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#10362 From: Ran Al <darkstinger692000@...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2008 5:31 pm
Subject: Any Writers / Authors here?
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Hi,
     I started a Columnists section in my website ( www.hotspotsz.com ) and I
wanna extend a kind invitation to Writers / Authors among you guys who write and
submit your own articles and content to article directories, groups and such to
gain some extra visibility for your books and publications, websites groups or
simply for self satisfaction. I’m happy to accept any material that’s within the
realms of paranormal (from UFOs, Ghosts, Ancient mysteries and everything in
between) whether its fact or fiction, if your a armature or pro : ) .
     If you wish to send any content directly or have any questions you can send
them to my email addy its “nuke913(at)yahoo.com” you can add me up to your yahoo
IM if you like (same address)
     Thanks.


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#10361 From: "lady_braveheart" <lady_braveheart@...>
Date: Sun Apr 6, 2008 10:14 am
Subject: Re: [SFTT] Now Is The Time
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Haven't posted here in a long time but this message has elicited a
reply from me. Gosh, it feels great to have even just one person
agree with my thoughts!  Thanks.

Lady B

--- In sftt2@yahoogroups.com, ZO <ancienteyes@...> wrote:
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>   MAYBE THE QUESTION SHOULD BE: ''WHAT ARE THE ILLUMINATI GOING TO
HAVE THEIR GENETICALLY ENGINEERED GENE-SPLICED CLONED SERVANTS DO
NEXT TO MANKIND?''
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THE-WAY IS ALWAYS DEPICTED AS SOME SORT OF GENE-SPLICED CREATURE
SINCE TIME-IMMEMORIAL.
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#10360 From: ZO <ancienteyes@...>
Date: Sat Apr 5, 2008 1:05 pm
Subject: [SFTT] Now Is The Time
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"just what is the alien agenda for humankind?"

   MAYBE THE QUESTION SHOULD BE: ''WHAT ARE THE ILLUMINATI GOING TO HAVE THEIR
GENETICALLY ENGINEERED GENE-SPLICED CLONED SERVANTS DO NEXT TO MANKIND?''

   FAKE AN ALIEN INVASION TO KEEP THEIR WAR MACHINE GOING.

   WHY HAVE FULL DISCLOSURE WHEN THE SECRET HAS BEEN KEPT SO WELL FOR EONS AND
EONS.

   MY OWN OPINION OF COURSE.

   I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THESE ''GREYS'' AND UFO'S ARE ALIENS.



   I BELIEVE THEY ARE MINIONS OF SOMETHING LIKE A ''SATAN.'' WHO BY-THE-WAY IS
ALWAYS DEPICTED AS SOME SORT OF GENE-SPLICED CREATURE SINCE TIME-IMMEMORIAL.

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#10359 From: "Larry" <starharbor@...>
Date: Sat Apr 5, 2008 4:51 am
Subject: Now Is The Time
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Never has there been a more opportune time than the present political
race for the next  president to push the disclosure of the UFO reality.
Once a candidate makes it to the White House they seem to be hampered by
political correctness and the dark illegal powers that shadow all our
elected representatives. This political year will be like all the rest
from our history--no leadership and taking the easy backdoor escape.

What will make the difference this election year? I see only one sure
way. If the alien actuality can see the superb opportunity that this
election year avails us and make more bold appearances, then the issue
will be forced upon all presidential candidates as a reality none can
deny; if for no other reason, than that the people will demand a
response to the undeniable reality presented to citizens and our
representatives alike. This way no candidate has to bare the
uncomfortable "hypothetical" question as to what they would do about the
UFO situation, a question that makes for considerable discomfort to all
candidates for office. Anything but a polite, but awkward brush-off on
the part of the candidate would invite raised eyebrows by the press and
the other office seekers. None dares to a commitment and the smirks it
would surely evince. As I see it, it is the aliens call; not to respond
to this unique opportunity calls into question: "just what is the alien
agenda for humankind?"

#10358 From: antigray@...
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:58 am
Subject: Re: Serpo, a planet of Zeta Reticuli / Part 2
antigray
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To:     sarfatti@...
> From: antigray@...
> SERPO Story Exposed
> Hi Jack,
> I dug up our previous information about Victior Martinez and am
> sending it to the list members, along with information from Bill
> Hamilton about the science fiction writer that originally wrote the
> Serpo story. Lets hope this expose puts an end to this big waste of
> time. From now on if anyone receives further spam from Martinez,
> they can just delete it. A few people have unsubscribed already
> because of Victor's continual spamming.
> Art
>
> Hi Group,
> Using Victor Martinez as a source throws up a lot of red flags,
> literally, as he works under red flags, being an admitted communist
> agitator. For 7 months last year he and a small group of other
> communist radicals invaded Dr. Jack Sarfatti's open list of
> physicists who are working on advanced weapons and propulsion
> projects for the USG and attacked the members and their work with
> nasty comments, communist spam propaganda, etc. I personally spent
> a lot of time counterattacking them as soon as they posted their
> propaganda and attacks and exposing who they were and what they
> were doing so that the productive members of the group did not have
> to waste their time answering them. They finally gave up after I
> bitchslapped them day after day. The following is some emails
> between myself and Dr. Jack Sarfatti when Martinez stopped his
> attacks on the physicists and instead got into the disinformation
> game with the phony SERPO stories.
> Art Greenfield
>
> Date: 12/7/2005 5:46:46 PM Eastern Standard Time
> From: ANTIGRAY
> To: sarfatti@...
> Right-click picture(s) to display picture options
>
> In a message dated 12/7/2005 10:59:55 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> sarfatti@... writes:
>> Subj: Re: Whole Lot Of Disinforming Going On?
>> Date:12/7/2005 10:59:55 AM Eastern Standard Time
>> From:sarfatti@...
>> To:ANTIGRAY@...
>
>
> Ryan is coming to my office tomorrow. I did not know about his
> Werner connection. I knew Werner very well - story is in my book.
> Thanks for the heads up! Bill was on George Noory last night.
> Listen to the program on the WEB.
> On Dec 7, 2005, at 12:49 AM, ANTIGRAY@... wrote:
>
> Hi Jack,
> When Mr. Ryan comes to your office, ask him for Victor Martinez's
> contact information. Once we have that I can get him checked out
> and find out who he is and what his game is, just like I did with
> his doper buddy Dennis Myrtzyk. I'm surprised that Ryan did not
> background check Martinez before he went on the radio and spread
> the Serpo story. Maybe it is all an organized disinfo campaign run
> by useful and useless idiots.
> Art
> =====================
> Hi Jack,
> We can't forget Victor Martinez:
> What's wrong with this picture? LOL
> From serpo site:
>
> 1) Information released by Anonymous , exactly as originally
> posted. Some comments in [square brackets] were added by the
> moderator, Victor Martinez, and have been retained. Uncorrected
> typos have also been retained. Martinez, however, corrected many
> typos and grammatical errors before posting, and states that he has
> done some “cutting and pasting” of the information supplied
> directly to him by Anonymous ; therefore the information is not
> exactly as originally written. As more information becomes
> available, this section will be kept fully updated.
>
> Jack,
> Since Victor is an admitted communist agitator and drug user, why
> would any military insider give him highly classified information?
> Then why would he release it to professional physicists like
> yourself to help the American defense establishment? I smell a rat.
> Art
>
> Subj: Re: C2C
> Date: 12/7/2005 5:03:04 PM Eastern Standard Time
> From: ANTIGRAY
> To: sarfatti@...
>
> Right-click picture(s) to display picture options
>
> Subj: Re: C2C
> Date: 12/7/2005 11:04:40 AM Eastern Standard Time
> From: sarfatti@...
> To: ANTIGRAY@...
>
> yes I missed part of it - fell asleep. Write up your commentary for
> the list.
> On Dec 7, 2005, at 12:11 AM, ANTIGRAY@... wrote:
>
>> Hi Jack,
>> Are you listening to the BS on C2C?
>> Art
>
> =================
> Hi Jack,
> If anybody wants to hear that C2C show, in most radio markets it is
> usually rerun just before the new Coast To Coast show for the day.
> Check the radio schedules in your area. You didn't miss anything by
> falling asleep except maybe some aggravation. I bet Victor Martinez
> and his cronies are laughing their asses off at George Noory, Bill
> Ryan, for being gullible enough to believe the material he gave
> them and for putting it on the air. It is a major coup for the
> disinformationalists. They are probably getting drunk and stoned in
> celebration right now: WE DID IT COMRADES. WE FOOLED THOSE AMERICAN
ASSCLOWNS.
> Rick Doty said there was a SIMILAR story that leaked out about 20
> years ago about an "exchange program." No details were ever
> released. Whether the current story of exchange was the same or
> just a made up coincidence could not be determined. Bill Ryan could
> only repeat the information found on the Serpo website. He could
> not elaborate on anything when asked because he said what's on the
> site was all the information he had to work with. He said Mr.
> Anonymous had promised to give Victor Martinez more of the story
> over the next few weeks. Victor and his cohorts are probably
> getting stoned as we speak for inspiration to write more. Does
> anyone really think that a retired military person in their right
> mind would hand over classified information to a degenerate
> admitted commie pothead like Victor Martinez? Victor should
> plagiarize some good science fiction so that the Serpo story
> installment reads better. No mentally competent ex-military person
> would write crappy amateurish reports like that.
> The military personnel supposedly sent to Serpo would have been top
> notch personnel, with a mission to observe and report what was on
> the alien planet. They would have all been trained to use a common
> military report format. Let's say they had to write a report about
> their observations as they tested an alien aircraft's capabilities
> on the planet Serpo as part of their mission to learn what we need
> to know. They would have written up what they observed in their
> respective disciplines along typical lines as follows as an example:
>
> What Characterizes a Good Report? A good report is clear, concise,
> well-organized, timely, and provides a complete and balanced
> assessment.
> Style. Clarity and brevity are critical. Avoid long-winded,
> rambling narratives. Make your point and get out. Avoid being
> "tutorial"—assume the reader has a technical background, but knows
> little or nothing about your particular article. Do not waste his
> or her time with general background about basic principles or
> information that is universally true of all systems of the type
> tested; keep your discussion focused on results related to the test
> item specifically. At the same time, since not all your readers are
> specifically aeronautical engineers, avoid the use of highly
> technical jargon (especially in the summary and evaluation sections
> of the report). Plain language will result in the least
> misunderstanding. This proscription does not apply to the
> Supporting Data sub-section, which is written for engineering
> personnel and can be as technical as necessary to make the point.
> Organization. Because of the varied backgrounds and interests of
> your readers, the organization of the report should be clear and
> hierarchical, allowing each reader to find the specific type of
> information he/she needs. Extremely detailed descriptions of system
> design, data, and problem analysis disrupt the flow and may be
> considered distractions by high-level managers who are more
> interested in the "bottom line." Consideration should be given to
> placing these data in appendices or publishing them in separate
> archival reports.
> Completeness. Ideally, the test team will report only on
> characteristics and conditions which influenced the test and on
> both expected and unexpected results. In this way, all information
> in the report will be both necessary and sufficient to document the
> study. The goal is to create a report from which the reader could
> re-create your test and attain the same results. The idea of
> sufficiency is clear enough, but the idea of necessity is more
> subtle. For example, when conducting a performance flight test,
> details of the engine and its installation (normally aspirated,
> turbo-charged, type of prop, etc.) are important. When conducting a
> handling-qualities flight test, however, engine information is far
> less critical. Thus, while the engine may be a turbo-charged, eight-
> cylinder engine driving a four-bladed prop, including this
> information in the handling qualities report is not necessary.
> Balance. A well-written report provides a balanced assessment of
> the test item. While it is recognized that favorable aspects of
> test system performance usually require less verbiage to relate
> than do deficiencies, the balance of good and bad news must be
> consistent with the overall assessment. Mixed messages are sent
> when a writer provides a single sentence reflecting an overall
> favorable evaluation, followed by endless pages of discussion of
> undesirable characteristics. Be fair, be neither an antagonist nor
> a protagonist of the system, be unemotional and be sure the
> collective weight of your writing leaves the reader with a correct
> and unambiguous impression of your message.
> Timeliness. Above all, reports must be timely to be effective. To
> meet reasonable deadlines, it is imperative that test teams draft
> as much of the report as possible prior to the start of tests and
> continue to update the report as the tests are conducted. Waiting
> for all tests to be completed before beginning to document the
> results not only makes the task overwhelming, it makes it unlikely
> that the report will be completed on time. Do not underestimate the
> time necessary for preparation of the report itself. If the data
> reduction is not complete by the 50% hack on your time-line, you're
> already behind schedule.
> ==========================
> I saw nothing professional in the Serpo report. It sounded like a
> stoner's vacation report.
> Art

> Posting by Anonymous (8 December, 2005)
> Victor: Yes, I did listen to the entire show. Never heard this guy
> George Noory before, but he seemed to be a very open-minded
> narrator and for that, me and my DIA colleagues were very pleased.
> The show caused a lot of buzzing in the halls of the DIA!
> Bill [Ryan] and Rick [Doty] both did an excellent job. I was hoping
> you [Victor Martinez] might just show up and add your own comments
> since you know more about me than anyone else as well as the
> program, but I guess that wasn't possible.
>
> I know CIA can't investigate what DIA is doing but they can pass on
> information about individual misconduct and illegal activities to
> the appropriate people.
> Art
> =====================
> In a message dated 12/9/2005 3:32:33 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> sarfatti@... writes:
>> Subj: Murad
>> Date:12/9/2005 3:32:33 AM Eastern Standard Time
>> From:sarfatti@...
>> To:ANTIGRAY@...
>
>> In a message dated 12/9/2005 2:57:49 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>> sarfatti@... writes:
>>> Subj: Re: Martinez Info
>>> Date:12/9/2005 2:57:49 AM Eastern Standard Time
>>> From:sarfatti@...
>>> To:ANTIGRAY@...
> ...
>
>> On Dec 8, 2005, at 11:48 PM, ANTIGRAY@... wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jack,
>>> Here's something else that is odd. On the Serpo site anonymous
>>> posted this to Victor:
>>> Posting by Anonymous (8 December, 2005)
>>
>
> Victor: Yes, I did listen to the entire show. Never heard this guy
> George Noory before, but he seemed to be a very open-minded
> narrator and for that, me and my DIA colleagues were very pleased.
> The show caused a lot of buzzing in the halls of the DIA!
>
> From Art: Can you check with any trusted DIA contact you have to
> see if people at DIA are really pleased. This sounds made up.
>
> Bill [Ryan] and Rick [Doty] both did an excellent job. I was hoping
> you [Victor Martinez] might just show up and add your own comments
> since you know more about me than anyone else as well as the
> program, but I guess that wasn't possible.
>
> From Art: Why would a commie stooge know so much about Mr.
> Anonymous and the exchange program. Oh yeah, I forgot, he is a
> commie spy too. LOL
>
> I called Mr. _____ this morning.
>
> [ EX U.S.G OFFICIAL WHO IS MANAGING THE CONTROLLED RELEASE OF
> "Project SERPO" FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION ]
>
> That's Kit Green.
>
> From Art: Why doesn't the "USG official" release all of his files
> to someonelike Bob Woodward if he wants it to get out for "public
> consumption." Releasing it to a commie useful idiot like Martinez
> who has no credibility would cast doubt on the authenticity of the
> work. I have enough info on the games that Martinez has been
> playing the last few months to totally discredit him. I've held off
> emailing info on him to Lisa Lyons at C2C so as to let this play
> out. I want to see the photos they are supposedly going to release.
> Art
> =========================
>
> In a message dated 12/9/2005 2:23:17 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> sarfatti@... writes:
> Subj: Re: Martinez Info
> Date:12/9/2005 2:23:17 AM Eastern Standard Time
> From:sarfatti@...
> To:ANTIGRAY@...
> Received from Internet:
>
> He never met Martinez. He is trying to find out more about him.
> Martinez is putting his own stuff into Anonymous. Ryan figured that
> out. So we really don't know the actual document's contents only a
> distorted version.
> On Dec 8, 2005, at 11:15 PM, ANTIGRAY@... wrote:
>
> Hi Jack,
> Did Bill Ryan give you any information on Victor Martinez, like
> address and phone number? Did Bill ever meet him in person?
>
> No
>> Did anyone follow Bill Ryan to your office?
>
> No
>> I just want to make sure this whole charade isn't just a
>> clandestine way for Martinez and his radical jerkoff friends to
>> track you down.
>
> Ryan is OK. British Bloke. I think MI6.
>
>> Thanks,
>> Art
>
> Victor shows his true colors (RED).
> Subj: Re: OUTRAGE: Guardsmen 'played cards' amid New Orleans chaos
> sez official!
> Date: 9/4/2005 11:14:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time
> From: victorgm@...
> To: ANTIGRAY@...
> CC: sarfatti@...
> Received from Internet: click here for more information
>
> ART,
> Well, you're right about that: I am EXTREMELY liberal -- a "leftie" as
> Sarfatti would call me -- and am PROUD of it. The great majority of my
> student's parents are liberal Demorcrats and, as you know, California
> voted overwhelmingly for Kerry, so I fit right in.
>
> As far as being a leftist agitator? You betcha! LOVE IT! -
>



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#10357 From: antigray@...
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:52 am
Subject: Re: Serpo, a planet of Zeta Reticuli
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Hi Susan,
I exposed Victor Martinez over a year ago as a disinformationalist who is
spreading lies like SERPO to disrupt the UFO community and several physicists
who
are employed by the USG working on advanced propulsion systems. The whole
SERPO story is BS as you will see from Martinez' own admissions below. Martinez
continually interjects communist agitprop into Yahoo groups and an open email
list used by Dr. Jack Sarfatti and other physicists to cause chaos. I've
exchanged dozens of Emails with Victor Martinez to head off his continual
disruptions. This is one of his typical disruptive posts and my answer to him,
followed
by the other Emails where he is exposed:

Subj: Re: BREAKING NEWS! U.S. launches air strikes against Al-Qaeda in
Somalia!
Date: 1/9/2007 12:19:11 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: ANTIGRAY
To: VictorGM@...
CC: sarfatti@...

Hi Victor,
I see you are revealing more of your true colors, pink and rainbow. You are
adding your own headlines to that article and they are written like a flaming
homo.
You Wrote:
CBS NEWS BREAKING BOMBSHELL EXCLUSIVE: U.S. LAUNCHES CRUSHING AIR STRIKES
FROM FEROCIOUS AC-130 GUNSHIPS AGAINST SUSPECTED AL-QAEDA STRONGHOLDS AND
HIDEOUTS IN SOMALIA! / BUSH's "LIBERATION" SPREADS TO THE AFRICAN CONTINENT! –

I guess that explains where the term flaming came from in regards to nasty
bitchy message posting on the Internet. I bet you were real popular when you
were arrested during the time you spent in the Booty House. I also noticed that
you trimmed this statement out of the original article:
Fast Facts
Somali President Abdullahi Yusuf told journalists in the capital, Mogadishu,
that the U.S. "has a right to bombard terrorist suspects who attacked its
embassies in Kenya and Tanzania."

And you added this statement yourself that was NOT in the article:
The AC-130 gunship is capable of firing thousands of rounds per second,
and sources say A LOT OF BODIES WERE SEEN ON THE GROUND AFTER THE
STRIKE, but there is as yet, no confirmation of the identities.

That statement is dead wrong and shows you have no knowledge of what the
AC-130 can do, so you make up lies. It cannot fire thousands of rounds per
second.
It is only capable of firing hundreds of rounds per second.
See:
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/ac-130.htm

Armament:
two M61 20mm Vulcan cannons
with 3,000 rounds
(6,000 rounds per minute)
one L60 40mm Bofors cannon
with 256 rounds
one M102 105mm howitzer
with 100 rounds
One 25mm GAU-12 Gatling gun
(1,800 rounds per minute)
one L60 40mm Bofors cannon
(100 shots per minute)
one M102 105mm cannon
(6-10 rounds per minute)

Do the math. 6,000 rounds per minute = 100 rounds per second on each of those
two 20 MM Vulcan guns. If they are firing the Vulcans and everything else
simultaneously, they can put out around 260 rounds per second, not thousands.

Victor, with the exposure of your lying commentary, your inclusion of fake
headlines, and your censorship of key information from articles you post, you
have lost every last shred of credibility. You have gone from being a useful
idiot of the commies to a useless idiot. Lenin is turning over in his grave.
Art
===================
He sent me this Email after I had exposed him and his buddy Dennis Myrtzyk as
marijuana advocates and known communist agitators (from police records) who
were endlessly badgering Dr. Sarfatti:


Subj: Re: Wikipedia, The USA Patriot Act and Sarfatti's BAD PHYSICS ideas!
Date: 10/16/2005 3:12:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time
From: ANTIGRAY
To: victorgm@...
CC: sarfatti@..., christenw27@..., scott6600@...,
Ledaswan@..., planetaryfreedomfighter@...,
KDavidson@...
Right-click picture(s) to display picture options


Hi Victor,
Thanks for the invite but I don't do drugs. Did you know that long-term
marijuana use changes your brain chemistry and makes you psychotic and
schizophrenic?
Art
Check it out man:
http://www.priory.com/psych/cannabis.htm

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?CMD=search&DB=pubmed

http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/bhcarticles.nsf/pages/Cannabis_and_ps
ychosis?OpenDocument

Look what it did to Charles Manson. Scroll down.
<aoladp://MA12743987-0002/Untitled01>

As if that isn't bad enough, you could go to jail for possession and bad
things really start to happen. Check it out:
Going to prison soon? Wondering what it will be like? Or perhaps it's just
time for a new nickname? Well, you've come to the right place! Simply enter your
first and last name in the form below and click Submit. And remember... DON'T
DROP THE SOAP http://www.prisonbitchname.com/

=================================================

In a message dated 10/16/2005 2:15:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
victorgm@... writes:
Subj: Wikipedia, The USA Patriot Act and Sarfatti's BAD PHYSICS ideas!
Date:10/16/2005 2:15:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time
From:victorgm@...
To:sarfatti@...
CC:ANTIGRAY@..., christenw27@..., scott6600@...,
Ledaswan@..., planetaryfreedomfighter@...
Received from Internet:

OK, ART:

You got me there!  Correct: I am NOT a teacher, I dropped out of high
school in the 10th grade, have a tested IQ of 91, and Dennis and I get
"high" ALL of the time from our little home-grown garden of weed.

Why don't you and the Doc join us some time so we can all get high as
kites?! –


Subject: Re: Wikipedia, The USA Patriot Act and Sarfatti's BAD PHYSICS
     ideas!
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:00:16 -0700
To: antigray <ANTIGRAY@...>, Victor Martinez <victorgm@...>
Cc: Victor Martinez <victorgm@...>
From: Jack Sarfatti <sarfatti@...>
Subject: Fwd: Wikimedia &Patriot Act
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 12:40:02 -0700
To: Keay Davidson <KDavidson@...>

Martinez is a piece of you know what stinking up the hood. He knows no
physics at all.

On Oct 15, 2005, at 9:21 PM, ANTIGRAY@... wrote:

Hi Victor,
Naw, no need to turn you into the FBI. You are just one of the
Islamofascist's Useful Idiots. You are pretty harmless. You are no threat to Dr.
Sarfatti's
work because you do not have enough knowledge of physics to understand it in
the first place to be able to refute any of it. You never did state your
curriculum vitae when I asked you for it. Is it because you are ashamed that you
flunked out of high school and are not really a teacher as you claim? From
everything I've read that you have written you don't seem very well educated. Do
you
do a lot of grass like your buddy Dennis Myrtzyk? It makes you stupid. Why do
you think they call it dope? Hahahahah. So, what college did you go to and
where do you teach school?
Art

In a message dated 10/15/2005 7:54:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
victorgm@... writes:
Subj: Wikipedia, The USA Patriot Act and Sarfatti's BAD PHYSICS ideas!
Date:10/15/2005 7:54:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From:victorgm@...
To:sarfatti@...
CC:KDavidson@..., AntiGray@...
Received from Internet:

Hey, ART:

I'm one of the Islamofascists who's tried to sabotage the Doc's crackpot
theories; can you submit my name to the FBI,... I have a shit load of
stuff to tell them about Sarfatti's BAD PHYSICS ideas!

Bring it on! –
==================
And then the Serpo expose:
I heard back from Victor Martinez and answered him. I think you will find
this interesting.
Art

Subj: Re: The Truth about SERPO / The likely source for the SERPO story
Date: 3/19/2006 1:34:45 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: ANTIGRAY
To: victorgm@...
CC: Sarfatti@..., Figaro@..., GKnapp@...,
Astroxplorer@..., BarbVanderhoof@..., Contact@...,
RPJMartin1971@..., skepticoverlord@...,
sharkley1@...

Hi Victor,
Thanks for your response. I do have some questions for you since you seem to
be in a relaxed talkative mood. Please explain how a commie doper activist
such as yourself can be given classified information by a supposed Intel agency
or Intel agency ex-employee and given the job of spreading disinformation?
Doesn't anyone do background checks or drug testing anymore before they hire
disinfo agents? Sheesh. You'd think they'd release the SERPO information to
credible journalists like Bob Woodward if they wanted the public to believe it.
Let's
hear the whole story on how you became the official mouthpiece to get the
news out, since you are not a credible journalist, scientist, etc., what gives?
Journalists like Woodward, Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, have very large audiences
and they would be eager to reveal news of something like SERPO if it was true,
even if the source was anonymous. Woodward did it previously with his anonymous
source, "Deep Throat." So, why would someone use you as a "Deep Throat?" (I
know there is an obvious joke in there but I will resist the temptation.)
You have no audience or credibility. What's up with that? Don't they want the
story to be believed?

If Scott Littleton was calling me a neo-Nazi agitator on an open list, I did
not answer it because I never saw it. Send me a copy of it if you have it.
Maybe he is still mad at me because I exposed his clever use of half truths.
I think it is hilarious that Barnes &Noble and Borders have misclassified my
book as science fiction. It could explain why it is selling so well there. My
publisher has my book classified under "history" because most of the
information about what our alien Repto Sapien cousins have done to us in the
past is of
a historical nature. I was just thinking about having my publisher contact B &
N and Borders to change the classification but I have a feeling they
misclassified it on purpose as a business decision because they needed sci-fi
titles
to sell which would make them a lot more money on volume. It could also explain
why I was approached by a major movie studio to do a screenplay from my book
because they are interested in making a movie out of it. I am collaborating
with Kim Schwartz, an experienced studio screenplay writer right now to do the
screenplay. Sci-fi movies are the biggest blockbusters. This is really weird.
Now what would really be funny is if you become a whistleblower and tell the
bookstores and movie studio that my book is not sci-fi, it is all real!!!
Hahahaha. Too funny. I might send you a free copy of the book for the added
publicity.
Art

In a message dated 3/19/2006 11:40:47 AM Eastern Standard Time,
victorgm@... writes:
Subj: The Truth about SERPO / The likely source for the SERPO story
Date:3/19/2006 11:40:47 AM Eastern Standard Time
From:victorgm@...
To:Antigray@..., Sarfatti@...
CC:Figaro@..., GKnapp@..., Astroxplorer@...,
BarbVanderhoof@..., Contact@..., RPJMartin1971@...
Received from Internet:

Hey, ART:

1) "Project SERPO" story a hoax? Not according to the attached e-mail.

From Art: The attached email doesn't prove it is real either.

2) Also, if I remember correctly, Jack Sarfatti's friend, Professor
Emeritus, C Scott Littleton at Occidental University really put YOU in
your place as a neo-Nazi agitator on an open list,... remember that,
Art, for which you had NO comeback!

3) Now, if you'll excuse me, I must go light up with some of that
special weed I just love so much!
------------------------------------------
NOTE TO EVERYONE: While Art Greenfield promotes his book as NONfiction,
it's VERY IMPORTANT to note that it's officially listed by both Barnes &
Noble and Border's Books as:

"SF/FANTASY, Science Fiction" with a sales rank of 597,194!
------------------------------------------
Art Greenfield
Publisher's site for my book:

http://www.booklocker.com/books/1417.html

Synopsis:

WARNING reveals a frightening alien agenda, a long-term program of
social domination and periodic controlled genocide. Mankind is now in
great danger. We have a terrible problem to overcome. Resolution
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Copy of Book Cover:

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"Warning" by Art Greenfield
ISBN: 1-59113-358-0
Copyright © 2005 by Art Greenfield
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From: Victor Martinez <victorgm@...>
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:48:51 -0800
To: Larry Dicken <dickenl@...>
Cc: <jerrypippin@...>, <Contact@...>
Subject: RE: The likely source for the SERPO story

WOW! Brilliant piece! OUTstanding!

From: Larry Dicken <dickenl@...>
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 01:39:00 -0500
To: <jerrypippin@...>, 'Victor Martinez' <victorgm@...>
Cc: Bill Hamilton <Astroxplorer@...>
Subject: RE: The likely source for the SERPO story

Actually, in my research, conducted right after the message from the
supposed ex-Whitehall employee turned up back in January, I determined
who this woman was. She was, before turning to full time writing, an
MI-6 not CIA agent, whose husband remained an MI-6 agent long after she
"retired." She was a famous English SCI-FI writer with a man's pen name

(James Tiptree, Jr.), which was not unusual at the time (SCI-FI authors
were real men - no ladies allowed).

It makes good common sense that Alice Sheldon could have penned the core of
the Serpo Story, which, as such, was given to her husband to use in the cold
war spy shock games, as the person posting on the ATS forum
from England stated. I think her creation might have born some
resemblance to the SERPO story, but I would guess that she only wrote
the equivalent of a 10-20 page short story, not a 3000 page log
transcription. Spy and politicians aren't interested in trilogy novels,
only short summary reports.

Also, by the time this story might have been laying on a desk in MI-6 in
1969 or 70, the real hay-day of cold war spying was over, and Alice
Sheldon was well on her way to being a prolific writer, not likely to
have much time or desire to do much spy-writing for her hubby. And, she
would only have written part of the story about the crew of 12 leaving
for Serpo in 1965 and perhaps her idea of what they would encounter
there. But, she could not have anticipated the trip home which did not
occur until 1978 or what might have happened up to 1969 or 70 when this
report was purportedly seen at Whitehall.

A common sense explanation, unsupported by vetted witnesses and
verifiable documents, should not be accepted as the truth. It is only an
interesting theory.

The premise that maybe the story, in full or part, appears in one of her
books has to date not been shown to be true, and until someone examines
every one of her books written from 1969 forward, I think there is no
evidence that the "Anonymous" Whitehall employee is correct in his
statements, as no other written material ascribed to Sheldon relating to
the SERPO story has been uncovered and presented.

It is quite equally possible that, because Alice Sheldon was a very well
know SCI-FI writer from England, this person who posted on ATS created
himself a plausible but fabricated story to try to prove that Project
Crystal Knight was a cold war spy ploy. One can easily assume that this
person is either planting a story under orders from the DIA, CIA or
whoever or is just another forum based private citizen seeking
attention. I go with the latter as being the explanation.

Again, we are dealing with hearsay. This ATS poster has no document in
hand, or any witness other than himself to prove that this "CIA" report
ever was seen at Whitehall. And, who ever said this was a CIA report?
Actually, it is purportedly, according to the SERPO "Anonymous" being
transcribed from DIA transcripts of debriefing tapes, all still stored
at DIA headquarters.

If you wanted to play spy games with the Russians the CIA or DIA would
likely have planted the little story using a willing American SCI-FI
writer to create it. Let's see if someone can find this man or woman
here in the US and produce the original manuscript and present it to the
armchair skeptics who are still trying to disprove the SERPO story with
theory, hearsay and character assassination.

The armchair skeptics don't really know whose character to attack. There
are only messengers for SERPO and no actual witnesses or experiencers of
the SERPO trip reality to attack. How frustrating it is for the
skeptics. Maybe that is the brilliance of this disclosure plan.

I personally am not convinced by the current evidence that the story
presented so far is totally the truth, but the real true story seems to
be there in the haze somewhere. I intend to keep looking and analyzing
instead of quickly stating an negative opinion and parroting the
unsubstantiated opinions of others.

Larry Dicken
Web Site and Executive Producer
The Jerry Pippin Show
www.jerrypippin.com

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#10356 From: "Susan" <Gemini271@...>
Date: Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:49 pm
Subject: Serpo, a planet of Zeta Reticuli
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http://www.serpo.org/intro.php

This site is intended to facilitate the gradual release of
confidential documents pertaining to a top secret exchange program of
twelve US military personnel to Serpo, a planet of Zeta Reticuli,
between the years 1965-78.

Introduction

The purpose of this site

This site is not authored by anyone with direct access to confidential
information. Rather, its purpose is to present to the public
information that has been released, and to examine that information in
a clear, balanced and intelligent light.

The background of the information

The information began to be released on 2 November 2005 by a retired
senior official within the US Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) who
calls himself "Anonymous". Until he chooses to make his name known,
this is the way he will be represented here. Anonymous reports that he
is not acting individually and is part of a group of six DIA personnel
working together as an alliance: three current and three former
employees. He is their chief spokesman.

Up to and including 21 December, the information was released in
installments on a private UFO e-mail list moderated by Victor
Martinez. The list at that time contained about a hundred and fifty
people, including many extremely well-known names in UFO research and
related or leading edge scientific fields. Until permissions are
granted, their names will be withheld out of courtesy and to respect
confidentiality.

Those on the list have differing views regarding the veracity of
Anonymous' claims. However, the pedigree of the list as a whole is
important to emphasize. There has been a substantial amount of
intelligent discussion about the revelations, and it is important to
state that there are many senior people in the US Intelligence and
Military community who are taking this information very seriously. It
may now be time to release this information to a wider audience, in
close approximation to the format in which it was originally made
available.

  After 21 December, there was a long gap in the postings and many
concluded that Anonymous had gone to ground or stopped his disclosures
completely. There was no communication from him of any kind. Finally,
on 24 January, information was received by Bill Ryan, the author of
this website, which was not initially sent to Victor Martinez.
Subsequent information was also received by Bill Ryan and posted to
this website accordingly.

When sending information to Victor Martinez, Anonymous wrote 85% of
the material; another 13% came from another source directly connected
with the project; and the final 1-2% came from a "ghost," who canceled
his e-mail account as soon as he sent his information. It is not yet
known whether this pattern will continue.

I thought this might be of interest to all of you.  Again, the website
is:  http://www.serpo.org/intro.php

Susan
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#10355 From: "timincal" <timincal@...>
Date: Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:24 am
Subject: IS THIS BACK ENGINEERED ALIEN TECHNOLOGY?
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One uneventful December afternoon, while returning home on the Pacific
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Date: Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:34 pm
Subject: Books for sale
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have a bunch of books for sell. Alot of them are ufo related books .
I am getting ready to move and need to get rid of some stuff. If you
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will give you a shipping price.  the books are:

1.Breakthrough by Whitley Strieber $4.00
2.Close Encounters of the Fourth Kind by C. D. B. Bryan $8.50
3.Water by F. Batmanghelidj M.D. $8.00
4.Messages from Michael by Chelsea Quinn Yarbro $4.00
5.Missing Time by Budd Hopkins $ 3.00
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7. The Gates of the Necronomicon by Simon & Schuster $6.00
8. Secrets of UFOs - Kecksburg UFO Crash (2006, DVD) $6.00
9. Confirmation by Whitley Strieber $ 5.00
10.Reincarnation in the twentieth century. $5.00
11.Night Siege by Bob Pratt, J. Allen Hynek, $ 3.00
12.Grave's End by Elaine Mercado $ 8.00
13.Coast to Coast Ghosts by Leslie Rule $8.00
14.Audrey Hepburn by Sheridan Morley. $8.00

#10353 From: "Susan" <Gemini271@...>
Date: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:34 pm
Subject: 2008 UFO Conference
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Saturday February 23, 2008 - Saturday March 1, 2008

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#10352 From: "Suzanne" <sgangel_2005@...>
Date: Mon Dec 24, 2007 1:30 am
Subject: ~ Happy Holidays Everyone!!! :D ~
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#10351 From: "Susan" <Gemini271@...>
Date: Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:18 pm
Subject: Geminid Meteor Shower
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Joe Rao
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SPACE.com Fri Dec 7, 9:01 AM ET

What could be the best meteor display of the year will reach its peak
on the night of Dec.13-14.

Here is what astronomers David Levy and Stephen Edberg have written of
the annual Geminid Meteor Shower: "If you have not seen a mighty
Geminid fireball arcing gracefully across an expanse of sky, then you
have not seen a meteor."

The Geminids get their name from the constellation of Gemini, the
Twins, because the meteors appear to emanate from a spot in the sky
near the bright star Castor in Gemini.

Also in Gemini this month is the planet Mars, nearing a close approach
to the Earth later this month, and shining brilliantly with
yellow-orange hue. To be sure, Mars is certain to attract the
attention of prospective Geminid watchers this upcoming week.

Reliable shower

The Geminid Meteors are usually the most satisfying of all the annual
showers, even surpassing the famous Perseids of August.

Studies of past find the "Gems" have a reputation for being rich both
in slow, bright, graceful meteors and fireballs as well as faint
meteors, with relatively fewer objects of medium brightness.

They are of medium speed, encountering Earth at 22 miles per second
(35 kps). They are bright and white, but unlike the Perseids, they
leave few visible trails or streaks. They are four times denser than
most other meteors, and have been observed to form jagged or divided
paths.

Geminids also stand apart from the other meteor showers in that they
seem to have been spawned not by a comet, but by 3200 Phaethon, an
Earth-crossing asteroid. Then again, the Geminids may be comet debris
after all, for some astronomers consider Phaethon to really be the
dead nucleus of a burned-out comet that somehow got trapped into an
unusually tight orbit. Interestingly, on December 10, Phaethon will be
passing about 11 million miles (18 million kilometers) from Earth, its
closest approach since its discovery in 1983.

The prospects for this year

The Geminids perform excellently in any year, but British meteor
astronomer, Alastair McBeath, has categorized 2007 as a "great year."

Last year's display was hindered somewhat by the moon, two days past
last quarter phase. But this year, the moon will be at new phase on
Dec. 9. On the peak night, the moon will be a fat crescent, in the
south-southwest at dusk and setting soon after 8 p.m. That means that
the sky will be dark and moonless for the balance of the night, making
for perfect viewing conditions for the shower.

According to McBeath, the Geminids are predicted to reach peak
activity on Dec. 14 at 16:45 GMT. That means those places from central
Asia eastwards across the Pacific Ocean to Alaska are in the best
position to catch the very crest of the shower, when the rates
conceivably could exceed 120 per hour.

"But," he adds, "maximum rates persist at only marginally reduced
levels for some 6 to 10 hours around the biggest ones, so other places
(such as North America) should enjoy some fine Geminid activity as well.

Indeed, under normal conditions on the night of maximum activity, with
ideal dark-sky conditions, at least 60 to 120 Geminid meteors can be
expected to burst across the sky every hour on the average (Light
pollution greatly cuts the numbers).

The Earth moves quickly through this meteor stream producing a
somewhat broad, lopsided activity profile. Rates increase steadily for
two or three days before maximum, reaching roughly above a quarter of
its peak strength, then drop off more sharply afterward. Late
Geminids, however, tend to be especially bright. Renegade forerunners
and late stragglers might be seen for a week or more before and after
maximum.

What to do

Generally speaking, depending on your location, Gemini begins to come
up above the east-northeast horizon right around the time evening
twilight is coming to an end. So you might catch sight of a few early
Geminids as soon as the sky gets dark.

There is a fair chance of perhaps catching sight of some
"Earth-grazing" meteors. Earth grazers are long, bright shooting stars
that streak overhead from a point near to even just below the horizon.
Such meteors are so distinctive because they follow long paths nearly
parallel to our atmosphere.

The Geminids begin to appear noticeably more numerous in the hours
after 10 p.m. local time, because the shower's radiant is already
fairly high in the eastern sky by then. The best views, however, come
around 2 a.m., when their radiant point will be passing very nearly
overhead.

The higher a shower's radiant, the more meteors it produces all over
the sky.

But keep this in mind: At this time of year, meteor watching can be a
long, cold business. You wait and you wait for meteors to appear. When
they don't appear right away, and if you're cold and uncomfortable,
you're not going to be looking for meteors for very long! The late
Henry Neely (1878-1963), who for many years served as a lecturer at
New York's Hayden Planetarium, once had this to say about watching for
the Geminids: "Take the advice of a man whose teeth have chattered on
many a winter's night – wrap up much more warmly than you think is
necessary!"

Hot cocoa or coffee can take the edge off the chill, as well as
provide a slight stimulus. It's even better if you can observe with
friends. That way, you can keep each other awake, as well as cover
more sky. Give your eyes time to dark-adapt before starting.

Bundle up and good luck!

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#10350 From: "antigray" <antigray@...>
Date: Sat Nov 17, 2007 2:21 pm
Subject: National Press Club -- UFO Conference Transcript
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National Press Club -- UFO Conference Transcript

RODRIGO BRAVO GARRIDO
Since the beginning of Chilean history, there have been reports of
unidentified phenomena, sometimes called UFOs, observed in our skies.
Over the years, we have increased our capacity to explain many of the
sightings, but some continue to remain without a scientific or logical
explanation.
For that reason, in October of 1997, the Department of Civil
Aeronautics, the Chilean equivalent of the American FAA, set up the
Committee for the Study of Anomalous Aerial Phenomena, known as the
CEFAA. This agency handles the best reports of unidentified aerial
phenomena in cooperation with aeronautic specialists.
In 2000, the Aviation branch of the Army of Chile assigned me to
research anomalous aerial phenomena, which they knew were real, and
their affect on aerospace security. I then graduated to become a
military pilot, and learned that the Aviation Amy had in its files
many reports of UFO incidents from military pilots.
A link was then established between our Army office and the CEFAA, and
as a result, nine official cases have been documented. This has helped
to create awareness among the flight crews about UFOs, and they now
cooperate with flight security to report any abnormal situation.
One of our most important civil aviation cases occurred in 1988,
showing that unidentified flying objects can be a danger for air
operations. A Boeing 737 pilot, on a final approach to the runway at
?The Tepual? Airport in Puerto Montt City, suddenly encountered a
large white light surrounded by green and red. The light was moving in
the opposite direction of the airplane, coming straight at it. The
pilot had to make a steep turn to the left in order to avoid a
collision. The phenomenon was observed by the control tower personnel.
In 2000, the crew of a Chilean plane from the Aviation branch of the
Army, flying South of Santiago, observed a long cigar-shaped object, a
brilliant gray. It flew parallel to the right side of the aircraft for
two minutes and then disappeared at a very high speed. This object was
detected by the radar of the Control Center of Santiago which notified
the crew minutes before the incident.
Sadly, the UFO subject has been contaminated with false information,
out of touch with reality, provided by unqualified people to the
media. This has moved the issue away from a scientific and specialized
study where it belongs.
In light of that problem, we now make the call to all the countries
that are presently working on this issue in a serious and factual way,
to unite their efforts. We would like this to include the United
States of America.
This cooperative effort would help all of us counteract the
potentially unsafe effects of UFOs on air operations around the world.
New cases are being documented by pilots, traffic controllers,
operations staff at the world?s airports, and by many others with the
proper training to determine if a flying object is something unusual.
The true origin of these UFOs is unknown, yet they do affect aviation
all around the planet, and this must be addressed.

JOHN J. CALLAHAN
What I am about to tell you now, is about an event that never
happened. I am John Callahan, and I was Division Chief of the
Accidents, Evaluations and Investigations Division of the FAA in
Washington, for 6 years during the 980?s.
In early January of 987, I received a call from the Air Traffic
Quality Control Branch in FAA's Alaskan regional office, requesting
guidance on what to tell the media personnel who were overflowing
their office. The media was requesting information about the UFO that
chased a Japanese 747 across the Alaskan sky for some 3 minutes at
flight levels between 3 000 and 35000 ft. on November 7, 986. Somehow,
the word had got out. "What UFO; when did this take place; why wasn?t
Washington Headquarters informed?" I asked. "Hey, he replied, ?who
believes in UFO's? I just need to know what to tell the media to get
them out of here." The answer to that question was easy: "Tell them
it's under investigation. Then, collect all the data - the voice tapes
and data disc for both the facility and the military. Send then
overnight to the FAA Tech Center in Atlantic City, New Jersey."
Japan Air Lines flight 628, a cargo jet with a pilot, co-pilot and one
crew member, was just north of Anchorage, and it was about pm when the
pilot first reported the UFO. He described it as a huge ball with
lights running around it. He said it was about 4 times bigger than a
747, and he saw it with his own eyes. So did the other two crew members.
Over the course of 3 minutes, the UFO jumped miles in a few seconds,
changing places to different spots around the 747, in one sweep of the
radar scope.
After receiving the data from Alaska almost two months later, I
briefed my boss Harvey Safer and the FAA Administrator Admiral Engen,
and Safer and I went to the FAA Tech Center to observe the playback.
The FAA had developed a program capable of recreating the traffic on
the controllers' scope, or plan view display. I instructed the FAA
specialist to synchronize the voice tapes with the radar data so we
could hear everything the controller and pilot said. I video taped the
radar display. Later that day, I requested that the FAA automation
specialists plot the radar targets along the route of flight and
explain what each target was doing. I video taped the resulting chart.
The print out and radar play back displayed primary targets in the
vicinity of the 747. These target returns were displayed about the
same time and place as the pilot advised viewing the UFO. Both the
radar and manual controller observed the primary target. The military
controllers also viewed the primary target on their radar and
identified it as a "double primary." The pilot and crew viewed the
target on their radar and were able to see the huge UFO at the same
time as it approached their aircraft.
If this craft had been a leer jet or military aircraft at the wrong
altitude, that would have been clear. The FAA has procedures that
cover tracking unidentified aircraft violating another's airspace -
but it has no procedures for UFOs.
Back at FAA headquarters, I gave Administrator Engen a quick briefing
and showed him the video. He set up a briefing with President Reagan's
scientific staff, and told me my function was to give them a dog and
pony show and hand this event off to them, "since the FAA does not
deal with UFO's." I brought along a copy of the video and all the data
print outs available at the time. One of the scientists asked a number
of questions, such as, what is the range of the radar, what is the
frequency of the radar, what is the band width, what is the formula
for the height equipment, etc.
I was impressed with the response from the FAA experts. At the end,
one of the three people from the CIA said, "This event never happened;
we were never here; we?re confiscating all this data and you are all
sworn to secrecy." "What do you think it was?" I asked the CIA person.
"A UFO and now they have over 30 minutes of radar to go over," he
responded. "Well let?s get a twix out and advise the American public
that we were visited by a UFO," I suggested.
"No way, if we were to tell the American public there are UFO's they
would panic," he informed me. Some time after the briefing, the
detailed FAA report which included extensive interviews with the pilot
and crew, the chart prepared at the Tech Center; and facility voice
tapes arrived at my office and were placed on a small table waiting
for the CIA to request more data. The material stayed there until I
retired 2 years later, and I've had it ever since. Most people
including FAA controllers really aren't familiar with how the FAA
radar system works and why all aircraft traveling through our airspace
are not caught on radar or displayed on the controllers PVD. But I am.
The system and organization of the FAA is not configured to identify
and track these types of performances.

ANTHONY CHOY
I am Dr. Anthony Choy, founding member of the Office of Investigations
of Anomaluos Aereal Phenomena (OIFAA), and an investigor for this
office. This agency was established by the Peruvian Air Force in
December, 2001.
I am the author of "Project 33," the first Integral study on the UFO
phenomenon in Peru. I traveled all over my country for about three
years, speaking with witnesses, obtaining audio-visual information
such as photographs and videos, and collecting data for this study.
On October 13, 2001, in the northern city of Chulucanas, and before
hundreds of people, eight spheres of light, of an intense red-orange
color, were recorded on video. We were the first ones to obtain this
video and we gave it to the air force. These objects were suspended in
the air for over five hours, moving in an apparently intelligent
manner, and in absolute silence until they disappeared.
A few days later, on October 25th, the luminous tear-shaped object of
some 25 meters diameter (approx. 80 feet), was recorded over the
countryside near the city. Within a few minutes, the apparent
"landing" of light spheres in the woods was also recorded.
In February of 2002, the Air Force?s OIFAA ordered me to investigate
these sightings.
Taking responsibility for the so-called "Chulucanas Incident", in
February 2003 Peruvian Air Force Colonel Jose Raffo Moloche, Director
of Aereal and Space Concerns, made an open statement to the media
acknowledging that the Chulucanas Incident was the first official UFO
investigation in Peru.
The preliminary conclusion was that the sightings, although being
physically real, had no explanation. The case remains open, and the
investigation continues independently
The climax occurred on August 6 of 2004 when, in collaboration with
the American television channel of Univision, we were able to record
for 55 minutes a distant object of unknown nature and origin, moving
at great velocity in the sky, going up and down, and right and left.
I believe the Air Force in Peru has done the right thing by opening an
office to conduct these investigations. The evidence we have from
actual UFO cases and incidents that have taken place in our country
show that the UFO phenomenon remains one of the greatest challenges to
our current knowledge of science and technology.

JEAN-CHARLES DUBOC
My name is Jean-Charles DUBOC, and I am a retired Air France Captain.
During Air France Flight 3532 from Nice to London, on 28 January 1994,
I observed, with my crew, a daylight UFO near Paris. We had few
passengers on board and none of them had reported that observation to
the crew.
The time was 1:00 P.M, and the visibility was excellent with some
altocumulus clouds.
That object had been identified initially by a steward who was in the
cockpit and by the copilot as a weather balloon, but when I identified
it, it looked quite different.
In fact this UFO was in evolution and it looked like this (I shall
then show a drawing), with a bank angle of 45ďż˝.
It seemed to be a huge flying DISC.
It stabilized and stopped moving (moving horizontally the drawing).
We observed it over one minute on the LEFT on our plane, surprisingly
totally stationary in the sky, and it disappeared progressively (turn
of the drawing).
This large object was below us at the altitude of 35, 000 ft (we were
at 39 000 ft), at a distance of about 25 nautical miles.
The colour was RED BROWN with BLURRED outlines.
The apparent diameter of this object could be compared to the diameter
of the moon, or the sun. That means that it was about 1000 feet wide.
We had no idea of the structure of the UFO that seemed to be embedded
in a kind of magnetic or gravitational field, with no lights or visual
metallic structure, which gave it a really FUZZY appearance.
The most incredible aspect is that it became transparent and
disappeared in about 10 to 20 seconds.
My co-pilot, chief steward and I quickly realized that what we were
seeing did not resemble anything known to us, and we reported our
sighting to Reims traffic control.
Simultaneously, the radar of the Operational Centre of the Air Defence
(the CODA), registered a one minute spot crossing the track of our plane.
When I recorded the estimated position of the UFO on an aeronautical
map I was surprised to realize that its position was near the base of
Taverny which hosts the headquarters of the French Strategic Air Command.
This sighting has been studied by the French military COMETA group
under the direction of General Denis Letty and with the participation
of several high ranking officers of the French Defence, as well as by
GEPAN under the French National Space Centre (CNES).
The investigations determined this could not have been a weather
balloon, and estimated the approximate length of the UFO to have been
800 feet.
This sighting remains unexplained.

WILFRIED DE BROUWER
My name is Wilfried De Brouwer. I am a retired Major General of the
Belgian Air Force and I was Chief Operations in the Air Staff when an
exceptional UFO wave took place over Belgium. Indeed, during the
evening of 29 November 1989, in a small area in Eastern Belgium,
approximately 140 UFO sightings were reported. Hundreds of people saw
a majestic triangular craft with a span of approximately 120 feet,
powerful beaming spot lights, moving very slowly without making any
significant noise but, in several cases, accelerating to very high speeds.
The following days and months, many more sightings would follow. The
UFO wave would last more than one year during which a Belgian UFO
organization conducted more than 650 investigations and recorded more
than 400 hours of audio witness reports. On one occasion, a photograph
revealed the triangular shape and four light beams of the object.
Belgium had no official focal point for reporting UFO observations.
Nevertheless, in my function of Chief Operations, I was confronted
with numerous questions about the origin and nature of these craft. In
the first instance, and in consultation with other NATO partners, I
could confirm that no flights of stealth aircraft or any other
experimental aircraft took place in the airspace of Belgium. In
addition, the Civil Aviation Authorities confirmed that no flight
plans had been introduced. This implied that the reported object(s)
committed an infraction against the existing aviation rules.
The Belgian Air Force tried to identify the alleged intruder(s) and,
on three occasions, launched F 16 aircraft. On one occasion, two F 16
registered rapid changes in speed and altitude which were well outside
of the performance envelope of existing aircraft. Nevertheless, the
pilots could not establish visual contact and the investigation
revealed that specific weather conditions may have caused
electromagnetic interferences and false returns on the radar screens.
The technical evidence was insufficient to conclude that abnormal air
activities took place during that evening.
In short, the Belgian UFO wave was exceptional and the Air Force could
not identify the nature, origin and intentions of the reported phenomena.

CHARLES I. HALT
My name is Charles I. Halt. I retired from the US Air Force in 1991 as
a Colonel. I was a base commander at two large installations and at
the time of my retirement was Director, Inspections Directorate for
the DOD IG. In that position I had inspection oversight of all
military services and defense agencies. In 1980 I was the Deputy Base
Commander of RAF Bentwaters, the large twin base complex in East
Anglia England. At the time this was the largest Tactical Fighter Wing
in the Air Force. In late December 1980 I was called upon to
investigate a strange event that was distracting our Security Police
from their primary duties. Early on the morning of December 26, 1980
our police patrolmen discovered strange lights in the forest east of
the back gate of RAF Woodbridge. Three patrolmen were dispatched into
the forest to investigate. They reported discovering a strange
triangular craft sitting on three legs. The craft was approximately 3
meters on a side. The craft had multiple lights. It rapidly maneuvered
and quickly left the area. I was not immediately aware of the details
only being told of strange lights and assumed there was a reasonable
explanation. Two nights later the family Christmas party was
interrupted by the on duty police commander. He told of strange events
and claimed "it" was back. Since my boss had to present awards I was
tasked to go out and investigate. I fully expected to find an
explanation. I took two senior Security Police, a Disaster
Preparedness expert and the reporting On Duty Police Commander. At the
site we found the three 1 ďż˝" indentations in the ground in a
triangular pattern. [SHOW PLASTER CAST],
We discovered mild radiation, and evidence including broken branches.
We suddenly observed a bright red/orange oval object with a black
center. It reminded me of an eye and appeared as though blinking. It
maneuvered horizontally through the trees with occasionally vertical
movement. When approached it receded and silently broke into five
white lights which quickly vanished. We moved out of the forest into a
pasture and observed several objects with multiple lights in the
Northern sky. They changed in shape from elliptical to round.
Several other objects were seen to the South. One approached at high
speed and sent down a concentrated beam near our feet. Another object
sent down beams into the weapons storage area. The whole time we had
difficulty communicating with the base as all three radio frequencies
kept breaking up. This activity continued for about an hour.
During this entire event I had my pocket recorder and taped the event
as it unfolded. A copy of the tape was released without my knowledge.
This is the original recorder and tape. I have no idea what we saw but
do know whatever we saw was under intelligent control.

PARVIZ JAFARI
My name is Parviz Jafari, and I am a retired General of Iranian Air Force.
At about 11 pm on the evening of 18th September, 1976, citizens were
frightened by the circling of an unknown object over Tehran, the
Capital city of Iran, at a low altitude. It looked similar to a star,
but bigger and brighter.
They reported it to the tower and it was seen by the tower man too. He
alerted the Air Force command post and Deputy General Yousefi decided
to scramble an F-4 jet to investigate.
The pilot in the first jet lost instrumentation and communications
when he got too close to the brilliant object, so he headed back.
About 10 minutes later, they scrambled a second jet, which I was
piloting. At the time I was Squadron commander.
I approached the object, which was flashing with intense red, green,
orange and blue light so bright that I was not able to see its body.
The sequence of flashes was extremely fast, like a strobe light.
We locked on it with radar; it was at 30ďż˝ left, at a range of 25
miles. The size on the radar scope was comparable to that of a 707 tanker.
Four other objects with different shapes separated from the main one,
at different times during this close encounter.
Whenever they were close to me, my weapons were jammed and my radio
communications were garbled.
One of the objects headed toward me. I thought it was a missile. I
tried to launch a heat seeking missile to it, but my missile panel
went out. Another followed me when I was descending on the way back.
One of the separated objects landed in an open area radiating a high
bright light, in which the sands on the ground were visible.
We could hear emergency squash all the way, which was reported by
other airliners flying at the time and continued for another couple of
days.
During my interview at H.Q, after the incident, an American colonel
took notes, but after it was over I could not find him to talk with.
Later, a once-classified document was released here in America through
the Freedom of information Act. The Defense Intelligence Agency
documented the event in great detail, and it was sent to NSA, The
White House and the CIA. The DIA assessment said "this case is a
classic that meets all necessary conditions for a legitimate study of
the UFO phenomenon."
I would be happy to answer questions and tell you more.
Thank you.

JAMES PENNISTON
My name is James Penniston, United States Air Force Retired.
In 1980, I was assigned to the largest Tactical Fighter Wing in the
Air Force, RAF Woodbridge in England. I was the senior security
officer in charge of base security.
At that time I held a top-secret US and NATO security clearance and
was responsible for the protection of war-making resources for that base.
Shortly after midnight on the 26th of December, 1980, Staff Sergeant
Steffens briefed me that some lights were seen in Rendlesham Forest,
just outside the base. He informed me that what ever it was didn?t
crash?it landed. I discounted what he said and reported to the control
center back at the base that we had a possible downed aircraft. I then
ordered Amn. Cabanzak, AIC Burroughs to respond with me.
When we arrived near the suspected crash site it quickly became
apparent that we were not dealing with a plane crash or anything else
we?d ever responded to. There was a bright light emanating from an
object on the forest floor. As we approached it on foot, a silhouetted
triangular craft about 9 feet long by 6.5 feet high, came into view.
The craft was fully intact sitting in a small clearing inside the woods.
As the three of us got closer to the craft we started experiencing
problems with our radios. I then asked Cabansag to relay radio
transmissions back to the control center. Burroughs and I proceeded
towards the craft.
When we came up on the triangular shaped craft there were blue and
yellow lights swirling around the exterior as though part of the
surface and the air around us was electrically charged. We could feel
it on our cloths, skin and hair. Nothing in my training prepared me
for what we were witnessing.
After ten minutes without any apparent aggression, I determined the
craft was non hostile to my team or to the base. Following security
protocol, we completed a thorough on-site investigation, including a
full physical examination of the craft. This included photographs,
notebook entries, and radio relays through airman Cabansag to the
control center as required. On one side of the craft were symbols that
measured about 3 inches high and two and a half feet across.
These symbols were pictorial in design; the largest symbol was a
triangle, which was centered in the middle of the others. These
symbols were etched into the surface of the craft, which was warm to
the touch and felt like metal.
The feeling I had during this encounter was no type of aircraft that
I?ve eve seen before.
After roughly 45 minutes the light from the craft began to intensify.
Burroughs and I then took a defensive position away from the craft as
it lifted off the ground without any noise or air disturbance. It
maneuvered through the trees and shot off at an unbelievable rate of
speed. It was gone in the blink of an eye.
In my logbook, (that I have right here) I wrote, Speed: IMPOSSIBLE.
Over 80 Air Force Personnel, all trained observers assigned to the
81st Security Police Squadron, witnessed the takeoff.
The information acquired during the investigation was reported through
military channels. The team and witnesses were told to treat the
investigation as "top secret" and no further discussion was allowed.
The photos we retrieved from the base lab (two rolls of 35 mm) were
apparently over exposed.

CLAUDE POHER
Bonjour, I am Dr Claude POHER, retired astrophysicist and space
research engineer from the National Center for Space Studies, the
French equivalent of NASA. I was the founder of the GEPAN, the Group
for the Study of Unidentified Aerospace Phenomena, which was an
official agency devoted to the study of UFO observation reports, and
which remains active today, under the name GEIPAN.
I first learned about the existence of official US UFO reports early
in the sixties, from Dr J. Allen Hynek, the well known astronomical
consultant to the US Air Force?s Project Blue Book. I then began to
investigate official French UFO reports, and to undertake scientific
analyses of the data.
I received approval from CNES to create and direct the GEPAN about 15
years later, in 1977. I trained our first investigators, teaching them
how to conduct official investigations into the different kinds of
reports, from lights in the sky to landings with physical evidence and
observations of occupants.
We had an independent scientific steering committee. This committee
recommended that we continue to pursue this work during the two years
of my direction.
For example, I trained our investigators on the case of CUSSAC, where,
in August 1967, two young witnesses were alerted by the agitation of
dozens of frightened farm animals at around noon. The witnesses then
observed a landed spherical UFO at a distance of 80 yards, with four
occupants near it.
Very high luminosity was reported after slow takeoff, leaving
physiological effects on the witnesses eyes that were confirmed by the
village mayor. The ?hiss? noise described by the two witnesses was
also heard by the hunting guard of the village. The UFO acceleration
after vertical takeoff was estimated to be about a hundred g?s by
GEPAN experts. The occupants were seen floating in the air while
entering the craft, from its top, in a hurry.
Physical traces on the ground from the craft were confirmed by the
local police, as well as a sulfur oxide odor. CNES experts in
meteorology and space debris worked in the field with the witnesses,
along with a Juge, a psychologist, an optical engineer and
aeronautical engineer. They had full measuring equipment and worked
with the police as well.
The official conclusion of GEPAN in 1979, was that about 15% of cases
remained unidentified after careful analysis by our experts. We
concluded that the objects, in most of these cases, were compatible
with flying machines whose flight physics were foreign to the experts?
knowledge.
What I have stated is about the past. Now there are some recent
experimental facts, in direct relation to my GEPAN and UFO
investigation involvement, that I believe are of great importance for
our future, and for the way you should now handle UFO observations in
the USA.
After I left the GEPAN but remained at CNES, I continued to work on
the UFO subject in the domain of theoretical physics. Last April, the
physical theory about gravitation and inertia I was working on since
1980, was successfully tested in the laboratory.
Effectively, I patented and tested devices able to reproduce, in the
laboratory, the causes of the strange effects that are described in
UFO observation reports. I am talking about such effects as tremendous
accelerations, sharp turns, sudden stops, powerful emission of light,
silent supersonic speed, etc ?
These experimental results are currently open to be demonstrated, in
my laboratory in Toulouse, for qualified scientists, scientific
journalists and industrial representatives, including those from the USA.
Thanks for your attention.

NICK POPE
My name is Nick Pope, formerly with the British Ministry of Defence.
Since 1950 the British Government has received over 10,000 UFO
reports. Responsibility for this subject rests with the Ministry of
Defense, whose remit is to look for evidence of any potential threat
to the UK, or anything else of any "defense significance". From 1991
to 1994 I was the desk officer responsible for these investigations.
Most UFO sightings turned out to be misidentifications of things such
as aircraft, satellites and meteors, but in around 5 per cent of cases
no explanation could be found. These cases include incidents where
reliable witnesses such as police officers and pilots reported
structured craft performing speeds and maneuvers significantly in
excess of anything they had seen military jet aircraft perform. Other
cases included in this category involved UFOs tracked on radar and
incidents where photos or videos were produced and where the MoD's
technical experts found no evidence of fakery.
The MoD takes no position on the nature of the UFO phenomenon but I
and some of my colleagues were privately convinced that whatever was
going on, there were important defense, national security and flight
safety issues involved.
In March 1993 I investigated a case where a UFO was seen by about 60
witnesses, including military personnel at two air force bases.
Witnesses included a patrol of air force police, together with a
meteorological officer with 8 years experience. This latter witness
described a triangular-shaped craft midway in size between a C-130 and
a Boeing 747. He said that it was emitting a low frequency humming
sound and he said it moved slowly at first, before accelerating away
many times faster than a military jet. My Head of Division's brief to
the Assistant Chief of the Air Staff concluded "In summary, there
would seem to be some evidence on this occasion that an unidentified
object (or objects) of unknown origin was operating over the UK". The
case file - published on the MoD website - also mentions related
enquiries from the US authorities, asking if the UK had a black
programme that might explain some UFO sightings involving large
triangular-shaped craft. That's interesting, given the US government's
public position that UFOs are no longer investigated.
Britain's best known UFO sighting occurred in 1980 and involved USAF
personnel from two military bases in the UK. There were multiple
witnesses and an object was seen to land in a place called Rendlesham
Forest. A Geiger counter was used to take radiation readings at the
landing site and the assessment undertaken by the MoD's Defence
Intelligence Staff stated that the levels recorded seemed
"significantly higher than the average background". We are fortunate
to have two of the witnesses to these events here today and I should
like to hand over to one of them now, so that he can give you the
specifics.
Thank you.

RAY BOWER
Good afternoon Ladies and Gentlemen and thank you for coming today. My
name is Ray Bowyer and I fly a civilian airliner as Captain. I have
been invited here due to my sighting last April of multiple as yet
unidentified objects over the Channel Islands region of the English
Channel. This encounter lasted for 15 minutes with the first object
being visible from 55 miles distant.
On nearing the object a second identical shape appeared beyond the
first. Both objects were of a flattened disk shape with a dark area to
the right side. They were brilliant yellow with light emanating from
them. I estimated them to be up to a mile across.
I found myself astounded but curious. But at 12 miles distant these
objects were becoming uncomfortably large, and I was glad to descend
and land the aircraft.
Many of my passengers saw the objects as did the pilot of another
aircraft 25 miles further south. There is also possible radar
information still being investigated.
A team headed by Dr. David Clarke looking at this case will shortly
publish a report but I understand that at this time no definitive
solution has been discovered to explain the sighting.
I have taken note of the differences between the British and U.S.
reporting system. It appears that attitudes on opposite sides of the
Atlantic Ocean are very different when it comes to the required
reporting and recording of this type of event.
Air Law stipulates quite clearly that if an operating crew of an
aircraft see another aircraft in a place that it should not be, then
at the earliest opportunity the whole scenario is to be reported to
the relevant authority. In my case the British Civil Aviation
Authority knew within 20 minutes of the sighting what was seen, as
described in the flight log faxed directly to the relevant CAA office.
The military were informed by Jersey Air Traffic Control at the same
time. This is not an option; it is an obligation that crews react in
this manner.
In my experience, having reported the incident as required has had no
negative effect. And there was no problem with me talking about it on
British television. Indeed, my company Aurigny Air Services have
offered every support to date. The assistance of Jersey ATC in
releasing recorded information to myself and the investigating team
has been a great benefit. I did not feel that I was in any danger of
being ridiculed, because all I did was report what actually happened,
as was my duty.
I heard about the multiple witness sighting at Chicago O?Hare Airport
? a year ago, on November 7, 2006. I was surprised to hear how this
was handled. Despite many pilots and airport personnel witnessing the
object hovering over the terminal, there was no investigation by the
FAA. It appears that pressure may have been applied to crew members by
their company not to discuss this incident.
These witnesses were afraid to talk about what they saw, due to
concerns about job security. The FAA told the witnesses that what they
saw was actually not what they saw ? but that it was simply weather.
I would have been shocked if I was told that the CAA would obstruct an
investigation, or if the CAA told me that what I had seen was
something entirely different. But it seems that pilots in America are
used to this kind of thing, as far as I can tell.
I would urge all aircrew to report whatever they see as soon as
possible, and to stand up and be counted. It is only when crucial
witnesses such as professional pilots make reports that the
authorities will be kick-started into a broader investigation of these
phenomena.

JEAN-CLAUDE RIBES
My name is Jean-Claude Ribes and I am an astronomer, working for the
French Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique from 1963 to 1998.
I contributed to the French COMETA report, a three year military study
on UFOs and National Security released in 1999, and more recently to
the book ?Phenomenes aerospatiaux non identifies,? under the direction
of Yves Sillard, chairman of the Steering Committee of GEIPAN. He
asked me to represent him and GEIPAN here today. General Denis Letty,
chairman of the COMETA group, also asked me to represent him here,
because he was unable to attend.
The COMETA report was written mainly by high ranking military people
from the French High Studies Institute for National Defence. It
analyzes the possible explanations for UFOs and their implications in
terms of Defence, with the extraterrestrial hypothesis presented as
the most logical one, even if not formally proven. Some
recommendations are made, including that all managers of the Army,
Police, Politics, and pilots be informed about UFOs; that detection
systems be modified to take UFOs into account; and that the French
government contact the United States and other allied countries to
initiate cooperative action on the subject. So far, these
recommendations have not been implemented.
However, last March, my country took a big step forward. Jacques
Patenet, current director of GEIPAN, released the French UFO files to
the public. They were posted on a website - more than 1,600 sightings
spanning five decades. Some cases involved multiple sightings and
physical evidence such as burn marks and radar trackings. Others
documented UFOs with flight patterns or accelerations defying the laws
of physics. M. Patenet told the press at the time that "We do not have
any proof at all that extra-terrestrials are behind the unexplained
phenomena. Nor do we have any proof at all that they aren't.?
GEIPAN?s Steering Committee plays an important role, with
representatives from the Army, Police, Civil Aviation, Meteorology and
the scientific community. This Committee insures the best conditions
for gathering reports by instructing the agencies involved in
investigations, and by protecting any witnesses who request anonymity
for fear of ridicule.
My personal opinion is that UFOs should be taken seriously and studied
without prejudice. There may be several possible explanations, such as
rare atmospheric phenomena, but some cases strongly suggest actual
flying machines with characteristics well beyond our terrestrial
capacities. If these cases could be completely proven as such, then
the extraterrestrial hypothesis would probably be the most likely
explanation for these advanced craft. Admittedly, it is a fantastic
possibility, but not an irrational one, given the data that we have.

OSCAR SANTA MAR�A HUERTAS
I am Oscar Santa Maria Huertas, official pilot of the Peruvian Air
Force, currently retired.
On April 11, 1980, at 7:15 in the morning, 1800 men were in formation
at the Air Base of La Joya, Arequipa.
They all observed a stationary object in the sky which looked like a
balloon, at about three miles distance, and approximately 1,800 feet
altitude. It was luminous because it reflected the sun.
My unit commander ordered me to takeoff in my Sukoi -22 jet to shoot
down the spherical object. It was in restricted airspace, without
clearance, and we were concerned about espionage.
I approached the object and strafed sixty-four 30mm shells at it. Some
projectiles went towards the ground, and others hit the object fully,
but they had no effect at all. The projectiles didn?t bounce off;
probably they were absorbed. The cone-shaped ?wall of fire? that I
sent out would normally obliterate anything in its path .
The object then began to ascend, and move farther away from the base.
When I was at about 36,000 ft., it made a sudden stop, forcing me to
veer to the side since I was only 1500 feet away. I flew up higher to
attack it from above, but just as I had locked on to the target and
was ready to shoot, the object made a straight vertical climb evading
the attack.
Two more times I had the object on target, when the object was
stationary. Each time, it moved away at the very last minute, when I
was just about to fire, always eluding my attack.
I decided to climb at full thrust to get above the object, but it
began to ascend almost parallel to my plane, and when I reached 63,000
ft., it stopped.
At this point, I came to within about 300 feet of the UFO. It was
about 30 feet in diameter. It was an enamelled, cream-colored dome,
with a wide, circular, metallic base. It had no engines, no exhausts,
no windows, no wings or antennae. It lacked all the typical aircraft
components, with no visible propulsion system.
It was at that moment that I realized this it was not a spying device,
but that it was a UFO, something totally unknown. I was almost out of
fuel, so I couldn?t attack or maneuver my plane, or make a high speed
escape. I was afraid. I thought I might be finished.
When I had calmed own, I radioed for another plane to come and have a
look, trying to hide my fear. They said no, it?s too high, just come
back. I had to glide part way down due to lack of fuel, zigzagging to
make my plane harder to hit, always with my eyes on the rearview
mirrors hoping it wouldn?t chase me. It didn?t.
I had spent 22 minutes maneuvering with this object. After I landed,
the object remained stationary in the sky for two hours, for everyone
at the base to see.
A US Department of Defense document titled ?UFO Sighted in Peru?
described the incident, stating that the vehicle?s origin remains unknown.
It still gives me chills to think about it.
Oscar Alfonso Santa Mar�a Huertas
DNI: 40315515

FIFE SYMINGTON
In 1997, during my second term as Governor of Arizona, I saw something
that defied logic and challenged my reality. I witnessed a massive
delta-shaped craft silently navigating over the Squaw Peak, Mountain
Preserve in Phoenix, Arizona. It was truly breathtaking.
To my astonishment this apparition appeared, and it was a solid
structure; dramatically large with a very distinctive leading edge
including embedded lights. It was traveling through the Arizona sky. I
still don?t know what it was. As a pilot and a former Air Force
Officer, I can definitively say that this craft did not resemble any
man made object I'd ever seen. And it was certainly not high-altitude
flares because flares don't fly in formation. The incident was
witnessed by hundreds, if not thousands of people in Arizona and my
office was besieged with phone calls from very concerned Arizonians.
The growing hysteria intensified when the story broke nationally. I
decided to lighten the mood of the state by calling a press conference
where my chief of staff arrived in an alien costume. We managed to
lessen the sense of panic but at the same time, upset many of my
constituents. I would now like to set the record straight. I never
meant to ridicule anyone. My office did make inquiries as to the
origin of the craft, but to this day, they remain unanswered.
Eventually the Air National Guard claimed responsibility stating that
their pilots were dropping flares. This is indicative of the attitude
from official channels. We get explanations that fly in the face of
the facts. Explanations like weather balloons, swamp gas and military
flares. I was never happy with this silly explanation. There might
very well have been military flares in the sky later that evening, but
what I and hundreds of others saw had nothing to do with that.
I now know that I am not alone in witnessing something extraordinary.
There are many high ranking military, aviation and government
officials who share my concerns; some of them have joined me here
today. There is absolutely no doubt as to the veracity of what these
men have told you. They have fought in wars, guarded top secret
weapons arsenals and flown countless passengers throughout the world?s
skies.
Incidents like these are not going away. One year ago, Chicago's
O'Hare airport experienced a UFO event that made national and
international headlines. Pilots and many other airline employees
observed a metallic disc hovering over the United Airlines terminal
for several minutes. It then shot straight up and cut a hole in the
clouds. The FAA did not investigate, dismissing the sighting as ?weather.?
We want the US government to stop perpetuating the myth that ALL UFOs
can be explained away in down-to-earth, conventional terms. Instead,
our country needs to re-open its official investigation that it shut
down in 1969. The US government can no longer shun an international
dialogue about this, and we invite the government to work in
cooperation with the countries represented at this table.
When it comes to events of this nature dealing with the great unknown,
we deserve more openness and a serious pursuit of the facts by our
government.

International Declaration to the United States Government
Facilitated by the Coalition for Freedom of Information
November 12, 2007
Preamble:
We, the signatories below, with backgrounds and careers in government,
aviation, or the military, hereby present this declaration as a result
of our common experience and purpose. While on active duty, each of us
has either been a witness to an incident involving an unidentified
flying object or has conducted an official investigation into UFO
cases relevant to aviation safety, national security, or for the
benefit of science.
We use the term ?unidentified flying objects? (UFOs) simply to mean
any airborne phenomena that cannot be identified or explained, a
definition first used by the U.S. Air Force in the 1950?s. We make no
claim as to the nature or origin of these objects.
While most UFO sightings can be explained as misidentifications of
known objects or natural phenomena, those governments that have
studied them, including some with which these signatories have been on
staff, have consistently found that a small percentage of sightings
defy conventional explanation. Reports of these incidents often
involve credible witnesses such as police officers, military
personnel, pilots and air traffic controllers, and include solid,
official documentation.
Therefore:
We believe that for reasons of both national security and flight
safety, every country should make an effort to identify any object in
its airspace. Especially after the attacks of 9/11 it is no longer
satisfactory to ignore radar returns for which no transponder data are
available and/or which cannot be associated with performances of
existing aircraft and helicopters. While civil aviation radars and air
traffic controllers mainly rely on secondary radar, military air
defense radars should be configured such as to detect and track any
object in the air, even when static or operating at very slow or very
high speeds.
In this regard, we refer to the incident that occurred at O?Hare
International Airport in November, 2006 when a metallic disc was
observed hovering over the United Airlines terminal for several
minutes. Since it was not detected on radar, the Federal Aviation
Administration declined to investigate. The FAA also did not accept
the many corroborating reports from United Airlines pilots and other
personnel at face value, dismissing the sighting as ?weather.? We
suggest that prejudice against the term 'UFO' and against reports of
unknowns could lead officials to dismiss sightings that involve
unconventional aircraft or unmanned aerial vehicles engaged in
espionage or terrorist activity, especially when radar returns are not
available.
However, important sightings have also been ignored when radar is not
a factor. Even though hundreds of citizens witnessed a massive
triangular object traveling over Arizona in 1997, the U.S. government
ignored inquiries from state officials about the incident, and never
offered the public any explanation about this invasion of US airspace
by a strange, unknown flying machine. We believe this kind of
disengagement represents both a missed opportunity and a potential risk.
We maintain that a restive, concerned public has the right to be
informed of the facts about UFO incidents that are well-documented and
involve multiple witnesses. In addition, science lacks potentially
important knowledge that may be gained by the study of these events
involving objects demonstrating speeds, maneuvers or other
characteristics that challenge our current scientific paradigm.
Call-to-Action:
We, the undersigned, ask the United States to join in cooperation with
those governments which, recognizing the reality of unidentified
flying objects and related aviation safety concerns, have already set
up their own investigative agencies. Following in the footsteps of its
now defunct Project Blue Book, we propose that the United States Air
Force reopen its research effort, or that the National Aeronautics and
Space Administration initiate such a research effort, to address the
international concerns stated herein, provide needed reassurance and
increase scientific understanding.
We call on the United States of America to engage with us and with
currently active officials around the world to address this problem in
an ongoing dialogue, beginning with the gathering of some of the
signatories below in Washington, DC on this 12th of November, 2007.
Signed,
Vasily Alexeyev - Major General, Russian Air Force, Space
Communications Center in Russia
Ricardo Bermudez S. - General, Brigada A�rea (Ret.); Former President
of the CEFAA, Chile
Ray Bowyer - Captain, Aurigny Air Services, Channel Islands, UK
Wilfried De Brouwer - Major General, Deputy Chief of Staff Operations
and Planning (Ret.)
Belgian Air Force
John Callahan - Division Chief of Accidents, Evaluations and
Investigations, FAA (Ret.)
Don C. Donderi, Ph.D. - McGill University; Contract Researcher, Dept.
of National Defence, Canada
Julio Cesar Chamorro Flores - Comandante Peruvian Air Force (Ret.);
Founder of the OIFAA, 2001
Rodrigo Bravo Garrido - Officer Chilean Army, Military Pilot,
Associate with CEFAA
Richard F. Haines, Ph.D. - Sr. NASA Research Scientist (Ret.)
Charles I. Halt - Col. USAF (Ret.), Former Director, Inspections
Directorate, DOD I.G.
Parviz Jafari ? General, Iranian Air Force (Ret)
Denis Letty - Major General, French Air Force (Ret.); Chairman of COMETA
Oscar Santa Maria - Commander and Fighter Pilot of the Peruvian Air
Force (Ret).
Anthony Choy Montes - Lawyer, researcher with the OIFAA, Peruvian Air
Force, 2001-2003
James Penniston ? TSgt, US Air Force (Ret.)
Nick Pope - Ministry of Defence, UK, 1985-2006
Jean-Claude Ribes - Astronomer, Centre National de la Recherche
Scientifique, France, 1963-1998
Yves Sillard - Chair of the Steering Committee, GEIPAN in France
Fife Symington III - Governor of Arizona, 1991-1997
Contact: Leslie Kean
www.freedomofinfo.org

For links to the extensive, worldwide media coverage on the press
conference, go to
http://www.ufomediawatch.com/

#10349 From: "Susan" <Gemini271@...>
Date: Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:55 pm
Subject: Lights, beings, beams: Just a typical night in Australia's UFO capital
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by Chris McCall Sun Nov 4, 12:21 AM ET

WYCLIFFE WELL, Australia (AFP) - On a desert highway in Australia's
flat, dry centre is a petrol station by a watering hole where
extraterrestrials have been stopping off for millennia, or so
"witnesses" say.
ADVERTISEMENT

If truck drivers or passing tourists find themselves nodding off on
the long drive between Alice Springs and Darwin, a pitstop at
Australia's self-proclaimed UFO capital might just revive them.

While filling up the tank or their stomachs at Wycliffe Well's
roadhouse, they might notice little green men holding out their hands
or staring out at them from nearby walls.

That may be no cause for concern because these are probably just
statues and paintings put there for the visitors' benefit. But
according to locals the real thing is so common around here that
people hardly even blink when they see them.

Lights in the sky, blue domed discs, silvery beings -- it is all
common stuff in Wyclifffe Well, say locals, who see a secret
connection with Australia's nearby spy facility of Pine Gap.

Sceptics, on the other hand, say the large number of sightings may
rather reflect the high levels of alcohol consumption, for which
Australia's Northern Territory is famous.

"When I came down here it was just a common occurrence. It was just
one of those things. Even the previous owner just mentioned it to me
in passing," said Lew Farkas, who has run the Wycliffe Well roadhouse
and caravan park for 23 years and claims around half a dozen sightings
of his own.

This tiny dot on the map, 400 kilometres (250 miles) north of Alice
Springs, surrounded by scrubland, now attracts international visits
from "experts," occasional UFO conventions and constant local media
coverage of the unusual sightings in the vicinity.

"It is recognised throughout the world UFO industry," said Farkas.

Suggestions that the sightings could be caused by such normal
phenomena as birds and aircraft landing lights are promptly dismissed
by the UFO watchers.

"You take that with a pinch of salt. It's a lot of rubbish," said Farkas.

It's a quiet life for Farkas providing food and petrol for the dozens
of cars that drive past daily on the monotonous drive up the Stuart
Highway punctuated only by flat scrub, termite mounds and the
occasional dead kangaroo or wandering emu.

But the night time visitations are more than enough to liven things
up, he says, describing the most memorable of his own encounters.

There were lights doing manoeuvres in the sky, little ones dancing
around the big ones, doing figures of eight, he said.

Farkas, 59, was a physical training instructor in the Australian navy
before he took over the roadhouse and says this sighting reminded him
of manoeuvres around an aircraft carrier.

"That is how we used to do exercises, in exactly the same way. It
looked exactly the same as we used to do at sea," he said.

"Over the years I have had quite a few sightings, mainly lights. I
have had a close up encounter where I have actually seen the portholes
-- just like you read in the comic books of the past."

According to Farkas, Wycliffe Well is one of only four or five places
in the world where there are constant sightings of extraterrestrials
and UFOs, probably the most famous being the Nevada Desert in the
United States.

The remoteness of the Australian outback has made it harder for people
to become aware of Wycliffe Well, but it seems the news is slowly
spreading.

It was truck drivers who in modern times first noticed the unusual
goings on, during World War II, when the waterhole gave rise to market
gardens that fed the war effort against the Japanese up north in
Darwin. Their stories were mainly of strange lights in the sky.

But local Aboriginals also report that extraterrestrials have been
visiting the area for thousands of years, hanging out around some of
the area's stunning rock formations, such as the Devil's Marbles, a
sandstone formation just to the north along the Stuart Highway.

Recently, a group of Aboriginal women in a local community reported
their own close encounter. They were sitting around playing cards when
a big beam of light appeared.

UFOs apparently also land in the nearby Tanami desert, according to
the believers. "There is no airport so they have got to land
somewhere," said Farkas.

It used to be easy to tell when there was UFO activity, he said. The
electronic banking and telephone lines would go out. But with a change
to fibre optic technology that problem has disappeared.

Farkas dismisses claims that he might want to drum up interest in UFOs
to boost business at his roadhouse, saying he has plenty of business
from the constant stream of motorists passing by.

Barry Williams, editor of Australia's quarterly journal "The Skeptic"
which attempts to debunk all kinds of suspect science, has other
explanations for the sightings.

Many could be of the planet Venus, others would be aircraft landing
lights, he says.

"We are not sceptical of people sighting things. We are sceptical of
some of the conclusions they come to from what they have seen. They
don't stand up to any crucial thinking at all," he told AFP.

The Northern Territory in general has the reputation of having a large
number of sightings of UFOs, he said, which he suggests might be
connected with the local drinking habits.

"I don't know whether this is in any way connected with the fact that
the Northern Territory has the biggest beer consumption of anywhere on
earth," he said.

Researcher Keith Douglass, who works as a cleaner at Alice Springs
hospital but follows UFOs on the side, says he has been up to Wycliffe
Well about half a dozen times but has never seen anything.

Nevertheless, he has heard lots of tales, for example of an Aboriginal
woman who was chased by a UFO.

"It is a flat disc with a blue dome. It has been sighted around Alice
Springs a couple of times. It chased this lady into town. She saw it
again up at Wycliffe Well," he said.

"Wycliffe Well - that's been going for years."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20071104/lf_afp/lifestyleaustraliaufo_071104042125

Susan
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#10348 From: "Susan" <Gemini271@...>
Date: Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:53 pm
Subject: Former pilots and officials call for new U.S. UFO probe
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Mon Nov 12, 5:58 PM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic U.S. presidential hopeful Dennis
Kucinich may have been ridiculed for saying he had seen a UFO, but for
some former military pilots and other observers, unidentified flying
objects are no laughing matter.
ADVERTISEMENT

An international panel of two dozen former pilots and government
officials called on the U.S. government on Monday to reopen its
generation-old UFO investigation as a matter of safety and security
given continuing reports about flying discs, glowing spheres and other
strange sightings.

"Especially after the attacks of 9/11, it is no longer satisfactory to
ignore radar returns ... which cannot be associated with performances
of existing aircraft and helicopters," they said in a statement
released at a news conference.

The panellists from seven countries, including former senior military
officers, said they had each seen a UFO or conducted an official
investigation into UFO phenomena.

The subject of UFOs grabbed the spotlight in the U.S. presidential
race last month when Kucinich, a member of Congress from Ohio, said
during a televised debate with other Democratic candidates that he had
seen one.

Former presidents Ronald Reagan and Jimmy Carter are both reported to
have claimed UFO sightings.

Most turn out to be misidentified aircraft, satellites or meteors. A
panellist who once worked for Britain's Ministry of Defense said 5
percent of incidents cannot be explained.

But the sightings are often dismissed by authorities without proper
investigations, UFO activists say.

"It's a question of who you going to believe: your lying eyes or the
government?" remarked John Callahan, a former Federal Aviation
Administration investigator, who said the CIA in 1987 tried to hush up
the sighting of a huge lighted ball four times the size of a jumbo jet
in Alaska.

The panel, organized by a group dedicated to winning credibility for
the study of UFOs, urged Washington to resume UFO investigations
through the U.S. Air Force or NASA.

"It would certainly, I think, take a lot of angst out of this issue,"
said former Arizona Gov. Fife Symington, who said he was among
hundreds who saw a delta-shaped craft with enormous lights silently
traverse the sky near Phoenix in 1997.

The Air Force investigated 12,618 UFO reports from 1947 to 1969 in
what was known as Project Blue Book. Investigators concluded that the
incidents posed no threat and there was no evidence of space aliens or
a super technology in operation.

"Since the termination of Project Blue Book, nothing has occurred that
would support a resumption of UFO investigations," the Air Force said
on its Web site.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071112/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_usa_ufos

Susan
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#10347 From: "Susan" <Gemini271@...>
Date: Sat Nov 10, 2007 12:54 am
Subject: Taurid Meteor Shower
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TAURID METEOR SHOWER:

The annual Northern Taurid meteor shower caused by Comet Encke peaks
on Nov. 12th. Although Taurid rates are normally low, only about five
meteors per hour, those five can be doozies. The shower is a
well-known producer of slow, bright fireballs visible at all hours of
the night. If you're outside after dark this weekend, be alert for
Taurids.

http://spaceweather.com

Susan
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#10346 From: "stealthskaters" <stealthskaters@...>
Date: Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:01 am
Subject: uniting Physics with Biology
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The "holy grail" of Physics has been equated with uniting General
Relativity (GR: the Macroscopic) with Quantum Mechanics (QM: the
microscopic) into one all-encompassing "Theory of Everything (TOE)".

What seems to be missing from this endeavor is the inclusion of
Consciousness.  Unless one assumes that it resides in the QM world
and would be already covered by that theory/model.

There has been a great deal of recent interest among physicists
(both "mainstream" and "alternative") in remote-
viewing/influencing/healing, Out-of-Body Experiences (OBEs), Near-
Death Experiences (NDEs), ESP, psychokinesis (PK), and other such
things.  Some of this has been "undercover" so as to preserve careers
and livelihoods.  (I find it interesting that none other than Robert
Bigelow  --founder of the National Institute for Discovery
Science "NIDS" which investigated paranormal reports -- funded a
Chair of Consciousness Studies at a Nevada university.)

There are many theories of Consciousness.  I found the more noted at
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Consciousness_Studies/Table_of_theories
(archived at
http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/Consciousness_38.doc ).  Among
those is controversial Finnish physicist Matti Pitkanen's
TopologicalGeometro Dynamics (TGD).

It is an attempt to a unified description of fundamental interactions
based on the assumption that physically allowed space-times are
representable as submanifolds of the space, which is a Cartesian
product of Minkowski space (or possibly of its lightcone) and of some
compact spaces.

It proposes a construction of the Universe based on an 8-dimensional
space geometry.  In this complex theory (i.e., many physicists
reportedly cannot follow all of his math), magnetic wormholes play a
very significant biological role.

In fact, the innovative thrust of his theory is to establish a
scientific link between Physics and Biology (the true "final
frontier"!).  It leads to a cosmology of sentient beings (and gives a
new meaning to "dark matter", "dark photons").  Contained in DNA is
much more than simply the instructions for synthesizing proteins for
the construction of living cells.  These powerful genetic
biomolecules also contain the data for the operation of magnetic
wormholes as biological communication channels.

Pitkänen has come up with a genuinely new approach of incorporating
the mental concepts of Consciousness and perception into the New
Physics.  Wormhole-Magnetic Fields (which are present as space-time
layers) are contained in the normal biological material and are
excellent candidates for a physical explanation of perception.
Magnetized wormholes can really be seen as the quintessential living
system.

Pitkänen's TGD theory demonstrates the long suspected connection
between Gravitation and Consciousness.  Namely, that Gravitation and
Consciousness represent antipoles.  It even suggests that Gravitation
is a fiction, evidenced by the fact that gravitational force can be
converted into electricity (i.e., electromagnetic vibrations
synonymous with brain waves) in vacuum domains.

Pitkänen earned his PhD while defending his TGD theory.  Since then,
he and others have been working on into its third decade.  He has
been employed at major European high-energy labs (check his "Bio").

I archived (and hopefully made a little easier-to-read) some of his
articles from his website (http://www.physics.helsinki.fi/~matpitka )
on a special page => http://www.stealthskater.com/Pitkanen.htm .  I
would suggest starting with his "PowerPoint" presentations first ("a
picture is worth a thousand words").

He points out the successes and failures of string/M-brane theories
and explains all of the latest "dualities" (e.g., Ed Witten) in TGD
terms.  Many of his .pdf files (which I did not archive)
are "standard" physics stuff relating to complex geometries of space-
time.  "Geometric-Future" and "-Past" are explained in geometrical
terms while "Geometric-" and "Experienced-Time" are distinguished.

But most fascinating -- and totally unexpected for me -- were other
topics that he applied his TGD model to.  One normally doesn't see
this with "standard" physics' TOE models.  Outside of Tom Bearden
(and I do not know if Tom and Matti have ever corresponded), I have
never seen these in any other "major" site.  (Indeed, a well-known
UFO researcher [who I now suspect to be a counter-intel agent]
complained that I had "too much" [of these topics] at my site.)
These included such "taboo" subjects as:

(a) the mythical ORMEs/ORMUS substances (Type III
semiconductor "magic" metals,);

(b) Tesla's "scalar waves"
(http://www.stealthskater.com/Bearden.htm );

(c) the "arrow of Time" which could allow for "healing" by rebooting
to an earlier biological benchmark (Antoine Priore) and an
alternative explanation for the "Philadelphia Experiment" which was
reversing along a prior-established history path rather
than "teleportation" (http://www.stealthskater.com/PX.htm#Chica );

(d) a TGD-based guess as to what the alleged "orgone" energy of
Wilhelm Reich was (http://www.stealthskater.com/PX.htm#Reich );

(e) conscious-Life after biological-death;

(f) postulates of why psychokinesis, remote-viewing, etc. function;
and

(g) a TGD-based hypothesis that many "UFOs" are of a "plasmoid" type
that interact via certain conscious minds (something that Carl Jung
and others had long proposed but without any math-based theory) --
also archived as a separate article at
http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/TGD_01.doc .

There were other articles of his that I previously archived at
http://www.stealthskater.com/Science.htm#Emergent .  And some of the
topics of "Consciousness Engineering"
(http://www.stealthskater.com/Consciousness.htm ) would appear to be
prime candidates for his theory.

A note of caution, however.  In this mortal life, I view
all "theories/models" as a path in the right direction toward
the "end of the tunnel" rather than 100% mathematically- and
philosophically-correct.  Meaning not to dismiss one prematurely at
finding the first "dividing-by-zero" mistake (something that Einstein
himself did in one of his papers!).

(And I still think that there is a small but highly secretive link
between nuclear detonations and what we call "UFO" sightings.  I
don't believe that it is "aliens" coming from another realm to
protest.  But it is the reason behind the worldwide moratorium on all
such atmospheric and underground tests in the late-80s and why
mass "UFO" sightings have all but ceased since then.  And it wouldn't
surprise me if it were a large part of the reason why the U.S.
government objects to other nations developing their own nuclear
arsenals.  It has more to do with just weapons of mass destruction!
A new meaning to Dan Sherman's "Project Preserve Destiny"
[http://www.stealthskater.com/Sherman.htm ] ???)

#10345 From: "stealthskaters" <stealthskaters@...>
Date: Sat Oct 13, 2007 2:08 pm
Subject: 2-time physics (Itzhak Bars)
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This is from a mainstream physicist (Stanford and USC) -- not
an "alt" person. Don't know why it made me think of those Montauk
guys and people like Tom Bearden. Perhaps wishful thinking, but I
couldn't help myself.

(1) Itzhak Bars' "layman's" article =>
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?
xml=/earth/2007/10/10/scitime110.xml [also archived at
http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/Time_03.doc ]


(2) more "technical" article at
http://physics1.usc.edu/~bars/research.html#2T [also archived at
http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/Time_04.doc ]

There was a book entitled The Holographic Universe. Whether this was
a forerunner to any of Prof. Bars' theses, I am not sure. Nor am I
sure of any of the following which came to my mind as I read the
above.

Former electrical engineering professor Ray Kramer (father of famed
missing person Philip Taylor Kramer) had proposed his own "Theory of
Everything" in something he called "the Equation". Reportedly his son
(an expert in fractal geometry) accidentally solved it when
he "plugged" it into another problem that he was working on. It
claimed to permit instantaneous communication anywhere within the
Universe as well as -- more mysteriously -- possible biological
teleportation => http://www.stealthskater.com/Science.htm#Kramer .

Famed German rocket pioneer Hermann Oberth allegedly said that UFOs
(or perhaps more precisely, the one he allegedly examined
[Roswell?] ) appeared to function more as "time machines" of some
sort than advanced flying craft. And proponents of the "Montauk
Project" have claimed that it inadvertently accessed "timelines"
already existing => http://www.stealthskater.com/PX.htm .

Some theories of the "Philadelphia Experiment" said that it was based
on a discovery made by Nikola Tesla where he saw that by applying
certain magnetic and electrical fields, an object could be made to
reverse along its previously-established path on his workbench.
Supposedly this found its way into WWII minesweepers (not a destroyer)
which could regress along a history path when it was too late to
avoid a mine => http://www.stealthskater.com/PX.htm#Chica .

And there are the "intuitive communication" claims of former ELINT
Sgt. Dan Sherman with off-world aliens (Project Preserve Destiny) in
which they allegedly said that they did not travel "through" time
(that was impossible) but "evaded" time
(http://www.stealthskater.com/Sherman.htm ). Perhaps this "evasion"
was what Prof. Bars was referring to as the other time dimension?

Finally, this additional time dimension makes me remember what Tom
Bearden has been saying all along involving "unobservables" in
a "scalar time domain" => http://www.stealthskater.com/Bearden.htm ]

(I initially posted this at http://wyzwyrld.com/Forums.html -- the
successor to the former EaglesDisobey.org site)

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Date: Wed Oct 3, 2007 4:23 pm
Subject: Book Launch Party Friday Oct 5 YOU ARE INVITED
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#10343 From: "stealthskaters" <stealthskaters@...>
Date: Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:16 pm
Subject: UFOs, nuclear events, mind-control
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There are those who maintain that ingenious "mind-control" (for lack
of a better term) technologies are responsible for most -- if not
all -- of the folklore such as UFOs, the Philadelphia Experiment,
missing-time, etc.

I have seen such hypotheses tied in with popular recreational drugs.
Almost as if such use "pre-conditioned" one's consciousness to being
more easily manipulated (although others would maintain that such use
is in effect "opening up" the mind to true reality).

And this also seems to somehow coincide with either nuclear "events"
or a substantial amount of atomic energy "threshold"
experimentation.  I've mentioned before that there has been a drastic
(if not total) decline of UFO sightings following the late 1980's
worldwide moratorium on nuclear weapons testing.

All of this (and MORE!) is contained in a "Timeline of Secret
Government Projects" that I originally saw on the Cassiopaea
website.  (Laura and Ark were not its authors if I recall correctly
although they made some comments.)  Unfortunately I can't find it
there using the same <url> that I had when I archived it at
http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/Cassiopaea_1.doc . (Maybe
a "Wayback machine" search would find it or where it is today.)

In addition, it added the author's spin that many of the UFO,
Montauk, etc. legends are the result of clever mind-control
manipulations on those who (for whatever reason) turned out to be
particularly susceptible to such things.

Following are some sample extracts. The whole article is accessible
from the above <link>. Makes one wonder about the limitations of what
we call "reality" as viewed by our consciousness.

And I will admit that while trying to contact many of the significant
persons mentioned in this document (both "believers" and "skeptics"
alike), I have yet to receive a response during all these years. One
could build a case for thinking that all of them know what "IT" is
about and are just playing their roles out (knowingly or unknowingly)
in a very complicated "game".

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
= = = = = = = = =

(1952) Project Moonstruck/ CIA:
Electronic implants in brain and teeth
Targeting: Long range
Implanted during surgery or surreptitiously during abduction
Frequency range: HF - ELF transceiver implants
Purpose: Tracking, mind & behavior control, conditioning, programming,
covert operations
Functional Basis: Electronic Stimulation of the Brain ( E.S.B.)

(1953) Project MK-ULTRA/ CIA:
Drugs, electronics and electroshock
Targeting: Short range
Frequencies: VHF HF UHF modulated at ELF
Transmission and Reception: Local production
Purpose: Programming behavior, creation of "cyborg" mentalities
Effects: narcoleptic trance, programming by suggestion
Subprojects: Many.
Pseudonym: Project Artichoke
Functional Basis: Electronic Dissolution of Memory, E.D.O.M.
(Disinfo???)

When the CIA's mind-control program was transferred from the Office
of Security to the Technical Services Staff (TSS) in 1953, the name
changed again to MK-ULTRA. Later still, in 1962 mind-control research
was transferred to the Office of Research and Development; project
cryptonyms remain unrevealed. What was studied? Everything including
hypnosis, conditioning, sensory deprivation, drugs, religious cults,
microwaves, psychosurgery, brain implants, and even ESP. When MK-
ULTRA "leaked" to the public during the great CIA investigations of
the 1970s, public attention focused most heavily on drug
experimentation and the work with ESP. Mystery still shrouds another
area of study -- the area which seems to have most interested ORD:
psychoelectronics

(1958) Project Orion/ USAF:
Drugs, hypnosis, and ESB
Targeting: Short range, in person
Frequencies: ELF Modulation
Transmission and Reception: Radar, microwaves, modulated at ELF
frequencies
Purpose: Top-security personnel debriefing, programming, insure
security
and loyalty
Pseudonym: "Dreamland"

[StealthSkater note: Bob Lazar said that he was ordered to take drugs
that smelled like "pine" as part of his clearance to the S4 projects.
See http://www.stealthskater.com/UFO.htm#Lazar ]

(1960) MK-DELTA. CIA:
Fine-tuned electromagnetic subliminal programming
Targeting: Long Range
Frequencies: VHF HF UHF Modulated at ELF
Transmission and Reception: Television antennae, radio antennae, power
lines, mattress spring coils, modulation on 60-Hz wiring.
Purpose: programming behavior and attitudes in general population
Effects: fatigue, mood swings, behavior dysfunction, and social
criminality
Pseudonym: "Deep Sleep", R.H.I.C.

(1962) Project Starfish
On July 9, 1962, the US began a further series of experiments with
the ionosphere. From their description: "one kiloton device at a
height of 60 km, and one megaton and one multi-megaton at several
hundred kilometers height" (K.H.A., 29 June 1962). These tests
seriously disturbed the lower Van Allen Belt, substantially altering
its shape and intensity.

"In this experiment, the inner Van Allen Belt will be practically
destroyed for a period of time. Particles from the Belt will be
transported to the atmosphere. It is anticipated that the Earth's
magnetic field will be disturbed over long distances for several
hours, preventing radio communication. The explosion in the inner
radiation belt will create an artificial dome of polar light that
will be visible from Los Angeles" (K.H.A. May 11, 1962).

"A Fijian Sailor -- present at this nuclear explosion -- told me
that "the whole sky was on fire" and he thought it would be the End
of the World.  This was the experiment which called forth the strong
protest of the Queen's Astronomer, Sir Martin Ryle in the UK.

"The ionosphere [according to the under-standing at that time] --
that part of the atmosphere between 65 and 80 km and 280-320 km
height -- will be disrupted by mechanical forces caused by the
pressure wave following the explosion. At the same time, large
quantities of ionizing radiation will be released, further ionizing
the gaseous components of the  atmosphere at this height. This
ionization effect is strengthened by the radiation from the fission
products...

"The lower Van Allen Belt, consisting of charged particles that move
along the geomagnetic field lines... will similarly be disrupted. As
a result of the explosion, this field will be locally destroyed while
countless new electrons will be introduced into the lower belt"
(K.H.A. 11 May 1962).

"On July 19... NASA announced that as a consequence of the high
altitude nuclear test of July 9, a new radiation belt had been
formed, stretching from a height of about 400 km to 1600 km; it can
be seen as a temporary extension of the lower Van Allen Belt" (K.H.A.
August 5,1962).

As explained in the Encyclopedia Britannica:

"... Starfish made a much wider belt [than Project Argus] that
extends from low altitude out past L=3 [i.e. three Earth radiuses or
about 13,000 km above the surface of the Earth]."

(B) Later in 1962, the USSR undertook similar planetary experiments,
creating 3 new radiation belts between 7,000 and 13,000 km above the
Earth. According to the Encyclopedia, the electron fluxes in the
lower Van Allen Belt have changed markedly since the 1962 high-
altitude nuclear explosions by the US and USSR -- never returning to
their former state.

According to American scientists, it could take many hundreds of
years for the Van Allen Belts to destabilize at their normal levels.
(Research done by: Nigel Harle, Borderland Archives, Cortenbachstraat
32, 6136 C.H. Sittard, Netherlands.)

(1965) (A) "A project in the U.S. called Project Pandora ... was
undertaken in which chimpanzees were exposed to microwave radiation.
The man who was in charge of this project said, "the potential for
exerting a degree of control on human behavior by low level microwave
radiation seems to exist" and he urged that the effects of microwaves
be studied for "possible weapons applications".
(From "Electromagnetic Pollution: A Little Known Health Hazard. A new
means of control?" by Kim Besley, Great Britain, p 14. Research from
Woody Blue.)

In 1965, Koslov -- then a physicist at the Advanced Research Projects
Agency (ARPA) -- suggested to Charles Weiss (head of security at the
State Department) that a "a sober and systematic program of research"
look into the "Moscow Signal", which was caused by microwave
radiation being beamed into the Moscow American Embassy. This program
eventually evolved into Project Pandora, America's first research
program into the possible offensive, anti-personnel use of non-
ionizing microwave radiation. (Steneck, Nicholas H., The Microwave
Debate, The MIT Press, 1984, pg 94-5)

(C) The CIA and Department of Defense begin Project MK-SEARCH -- a
program to develop a capability to manipulate human behavior through
the use of mind-altering drugs.

(1970) (A) Zbigniew Brzezinski -- President Jimmy Carter's National
Security Director -- said in his book Between Two Ages that weather
control was a new weapon that would be the key element of
strategy.  "Technology will make available to leaders of major
nations a variety of techniques for conducting secret warfare..."

He also wrote that "Accurately-timed, artificially-excited electronic
strokes could lead to a pattern of oscillations that produce
relatively high power levels over certain regions of the Earth ...
One could develop a system that would seriously impair the brain
performance of a very large population in selected regions over an
extended period." [Cited in Baker's "ELF Psychotronic Tyranny" paper.]

(1973) Sharp and Grove transmit audible words via microwaves [EW:
That is, voice to SKULL] (See "Synthetic Telepathy" in Resonance ]

(1975) Saturn V Rocket. Due to a malfunction, the Saturn V rocket
burned unusually high in the atmosphere -- above 300 km. This burn
produced "a large ionospheric hole" (Mendillo, M. et al., Science, p.
187, 343, 1975).  The disturbance reduced the total electron content
more than 60% over an area 1,000 km in radius and lasted for several
hours. It prevented all telecommunications over a large area of the
Atlantic Ocean. The phenomenon was apparently caused by a reaction
between the exhaust gases and ionospheric oxygen ions. The reaction
emitted a 6300 angstrom airglow.  Between 1975 and 1981, NASA and the
U.S. Military began to design ways to test this new phenomena through
deliberate experimentation with the ionosphere.

(D) The virus section of Fort Detrick's Center for Biological Warfare
Research is renamed the Fredrick Cancer Research Facilities and
placed under the supervision of the National Cancer Institute (NCI).
It is here that a special virus cancer program is initiated by the
U.S. Navy, purportedly to develop cancer-causing viruses. It is also
here that retrovirologists isolate a virus to which no immunity
exists. It is later named HTLV (Human T-cell Leukemia Virus).

(1975-77) "Unpublished analyses of microwave bioeffects literature
weredisseminated to the U.S. Congress and to other officials arguing
the case for remote control of human behavior by radar." (From the
Journal of Microwave Power, 12(4), 1977, p 320. Research by Harlan
Girard.)

[StealthSkater note: reminds me of the SAGE radar used at Montauk
(the "Montauk Project"). Funds for operating the radar part of
Montauk AFB allowed it to run several years longer after the rest of
the base had been decommissioned and mothballed. If such radar
systems were so obsolete and replaced by newer technologies, the
question has always been as why?]

(1983) Phoenix II / USAF, NSA:
Location: Montauk, Long Island
Electronic multi-directional targeting of select population groups
Targeting: Medium range
Frequencies: Radar, microwaves. EHF UHF modulated
Power: Gigawatt through Terawatt
Purpose: Loading of Earth Grids, planetary sonombulescence to stave
off
geological activity, specific-point earthquake creation, population
programming for "sensitized" individuals
Pseudonym: "Rainbow", ZAP

[StealthSkater note: folklore has it that "Phoenix I" was a
combination of "Project Rainbow" (from the legendary "Philadelphia
Experiment") and weather control by "radiosondes" which were
reportedly based on discredited (by official government agencies,
anyway) Wilhelm Reich's controversial "orgone" energy. Phoenix-I
evolved into II and III at Montauk AFB and become collectively known
as the "Montauk Project". HAARP may be based on some of Montauk's
goals.]

[1985]
D) Innovative Shuttle Experiments An innovative use of the Space
Shuttle to perform space physics experiments in Earth orbit was
launched, using the OMS injections of gases to "cause a sudden
depletion in the local plasma concentration -- the creation of a so-
called ionospheric hole". This artificially-induced plasma depletion
can then be used to investigate other space phenomena, such as the
growth of the plasma instabilities or the modification of radio
propagation paths. The 47 second OMS burn of July 29, 1985 produced
the largest and most long-lived ionospheric hole to date, dumping
some 830 kg of exhaust into the ionosphere at sunset. A 6-second, 68-
km OMS release above Connecticut in August 1985 produced an airglow
which covered over 400,000 square km.

During the 1980s, rocket launches globally numbered about 500-to-600
a year, peaking at 1500 in 1989. There were many more during the Gulf
War.  The Shuttle is the largest of the solid fuel rockets with twin
45-meter boosters. All solid fuel rockets release large amounts of
hydrochloric acid in their exhaust. Each Shuttle flight injects about
75 tons of ozone-destroying chlorine into the stratosphere. Those
launched since 1992 inject even more ozone-destroying chlorine (about
187 tons) into the stratosphere (which contains the ozone layer).

[1986]
(D) Mighty Oaks
In April 1986 just before the Chernobyl disaster, the U.S. had a
failed hydrogen test at the Nevada Test Site called "Mighty Oaks".
This test -- conducted far underground -- consisted of a hydrogen
bomb explosion in one chamber with a leaded steel door to the chamber
(2 meters thick) closing within milliseconds of the blast. The door
was to allow only the first radioactive beam to escape into
the "control room" in which expensive instrumentation was located.
The radiation was to be captured as a weapon beam.

The door failed to close as quickly as planned, causing the
radioactive gases and debris to fill the control room and destroying
millions of dollars worth of equipment. The experiment was part of a
program to develop X-ray and particle beam weapons. The radioactive
releases from Mighty Oaks were vented under a "licensed venting" and
were likely responsible for many of the North American nuclear
fallout reports in May 1986 which were attributed to the Chernobyl
disaster.

(1989) TRIDENT/ ONR, NSA:
Electronic directed targeting of individuals or populations
Targeting: Large population groups assembled
Display: Black helicopters flying in triad formation of three
Power: 100,000 watts
Frequency: UHF
Purpose: Large group management and behavior control, riot control
Allied
Agencies: FEMA
Pseudonym: "Black Triad" A.E.M.C

(1990) RF MEDIA/ 1990, CIA:
Electronic, multi-directional subliminal suggestion and programming
Location: Boulder, Colorado (Location of main cell telephone node,
national television synchronization node)
Targeting: national population of the United States
Frequencies: ULF VHF HF Phase modulation
Power: Gigawatts
Implementation: Television and radio communications, the "videodrome"
signals
Purpose: Programming and triggering behavioral desire, subversion of
psychic abilities of population, preparatory processing for mass
electromagnetic control
Pseudonym: "Buzz Saw" E.E.M.C.

(1990) TOWER/ CIA, NSA:
Electronic cross country subliminal programming and suggestion
Targeting: Mass population, short-range intervals, long-range
cumulative
Frequencies: Microwave, EHF SHF
Methodology: Cellular telephone system, ELF modulation
Purpose: Programming through neural resonance and encoded information
Effect: Neural degeneration, DNA resonance modification, psychic
suppression
Pseudonym: "Wedding Bells"

(1993)
"Acoustic psycho-correction involves the transmission of specific
commands via static or white noise bands into the human
subconscious ..." The Russian experts -- among them former KGB
General George Kotov -- present in a paper a list of software and
hardware available for $80,000. (From Opal article, "U.S. Explores
Russian Mind Control Technology".)

[StealthSkater note: In his "Project Preserve Destiny" training, Dan
Sherman noticed that an unknown van was following him between his
hotel and NSA training offices. On it was labeled something
about "noise cancellation". Related to the "white noise" mentioned
above? Reminds me the movie "They Live!" starring pro
wrestler "Rowdy" Roddy Piper in which visual existence of aliens was
being masked by white noise types of RF being piggybacked onto
commercial radio signals. When the transmitting devices ere shattered
in the end, humans finally saw (to their horror!] who they were
really married to, etc.]

[1994]
By controlling the nature of the magnetic fields and causing them to
simulate brain patterns, Persinger is able to stimulate strong
emotions and hallucinations including the illusion of touch and
movement.  (Blackmore, Susan, "Alien Abduction: The Inside Story",
New Scientist, 11/19/94, pg 29-31.) Persinger is shown demonstrating
this device on the British TV show Horizon entitled "Close
Encounters", written-and-narrated by Susan Blackmore. For their
efforts, both Persinger and Blackmore have been accused of being in
the Aviary.) Persinger was on the board of advisors for the False
Memory Syndrome Foundation. Also an informal advisor to SRI's remote-
viewing program. ... ...

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(note: All the above was extracted from the complete "Timeline"
document archived at
http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/Cassiopaea_1.doc .  Related
articles are at http://www.stealthskater.com/PX.htm .  Comments on
this article were posted in "When You Dance with the Devil …" at
http://wyzwyrld.com/Forums/viewforum/f=50.html .

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Date: Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:04 am
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The general public was unaware of Area-51 until Bob Lazar came forth
in
late-1987 claiming that he was part of a back-engineering effort on
retrieved alien craft at a site called "Papoose Site-4". It was on the
side of the Papoose mountain range that adjoined something called
"Area-51". The latter was built on the Groom dry lake bed initially to
serve as a test strip for the U-2 spyplane. It has since evolved, of
course. (Note that it adjoins Nellis AFB as well as the old AEC's
Mercury atomic test site. How convenient.)

Soon stories came out about Lazar's background that led doubt to his
whistleblowing. We are led to believe that the Federal Government was
behind this. Most of it was about Lazar's lying about his educational
credentials. Some of it involved his helping a Nevada brothel madam
computerize her record-keeping.

They later found that Lazar was more of a nuclear lab technician
working at the Meson Particle Facility at Los Alamos. He was employed
by one of the contracting agencies. Supposedly he was fired because he
was spending too much of his work time and the facilities resources on
his personal projects (e.g., the jet engine he attached to a Honda
Civic).

But the attacks on his personal life overshadowed these engineering
accomplishments. And led most "mainstreamers" to discredit anything
Lazar ever said. The jury is still out as to whether Lazar was a
private whistleblower or a most clever disinfo counter-intel agent
employed by the government. Nobody can find much on his early life.
The records simply don't exist where they should.
( http://www.stealthskater.com/Lazar.htm )

The point being (to give Lazar the benefit of the doubt) is that
people
tend to discredit incredible stories if they can find any flaw in the
character of the proponent. Perhaps it's human nature, I don't know.

In the early 1980s, the Government announced plans to shut down the
SAGE radar system at Montauk Point on Long Island, NY. It was no
longer
needed for air defense purposes. Especially with modern satellites.

Also slated to be shut down were the batteries of Nike Zeus and Sprint
missiles designed to intercept incoming ICBMs. The SAGE radar scanned
the incoming bogies and cued the missiles' tracking radar systems. I
think these were stationed at the large Plattsburgh AFB which also
housed ICBMs in underground silos. Defense strategies found that it
was more advantageous to guard our nuclear weapons with the scarce
anti-ICBM missiles than to guard civilian population centers. In
accordance with the "MAD" doctine (which works only if the enemy is
not
suicidal).

Lo and behold! For some reason, unknown (but obviously powerful)
parties petitioned that the Montauk SAGE radar be kept operational
for a
few more years. I remember reading about that in AW&ST when I still
subsribed to it. Why? Nobody knows. They didn't need it for detecting
incoming ICBMS or bombers. And the anti-ICBM missiles were shut down.

Montauk was finally shut down. And then a few years later (ca. 1990),
stories of the Montauk Project starting coming out. As with Lazar,
these alleged whistleblowing tales originated with one individual —
Preston Nichols. A radar engineer with Eaton-AIL who supposedly led a
double life. ( http://www.stealthskater.com/PX.htm )

There was an Al Bielek that later was prominent in the MP legends. And
"Peter Moon" (Vince Burbarick) chronicled these stories and led to the
founding of Sky Books Publishers. Every now and then someone else
claims to have been part of the Project (e.g., Stewart Swedlow, Bob
Drake).

As with Lazar, self-appinted inestigators found all sorts of problems
with the personal lives of Nichols and Bielek (in particular). As well
as other things concerning times and places. Leading the
"mainstreamers" to dismiss anything that the proponents ever said.

In the late-1980s, NASA announced its "Breakthrough Propulsion Project
(BPP)". The public was led to believe that a radical quantum leap had
been found that would eliminate conventional propulsion technologies.

Apparently it didn't pan out. Now when one reads about the BPP, it
seems so "watered down" that one wonders how it could have been
labeled
a "quantum leap" in the first place. Or maybe this was done on
purpose???

Lazar claimed that the secret to the alien crafts' performance was in
a
new element called "Element-115". Although modern particle
accelerators
have created Elements 114 and 118, there is debate over whether
Lazar's
incredible substance existed as Element-115 or was a "super atom" of
some sort. Not necessarily a Bose-Einstein Condensate (BEC). Perhaps
something along the lines of the eually-mythical ORMEs/ORMUS
substances
(http://www.stealthskater.com/ORMEs.htm ). (Of course, this is
assuming
that Lazar's story was factual in the first place.)

Keep track of the timelines in all of these. I'm going to make a case
later.

In the mid-1990s, stories were circulating about Dean Kamen's
invention
(labeled "IT" and "Ginger", by default). Alleged insider witnesses
implied that it was fantastic transportation device bordering on the
unbelievable. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Kamen and
http://www.dekaresearch.com/

Then a few years later, all we see from Kamen is an "ordinary"
Segway.
Certainly far short of the "fantastic" and "unbelievable". Yet I
recall flipping through tv channels while half-asleep and seeing a
trip through some woods by what must have been a camcorder mounted on
some craft. It was dense woods too. It was a constant speed with lots
of manuvering. Reminded me of "Return of the Jedi" except it was
nothing of that breakneck speed. I missed the first part of the
program. I could be wrong ... but it seems to me that it looked
something like a "cherry picker" or that type of craft that has been
photographed in the Gulf Breeze sightings. I recall the commentator
saying that it was to be mobile observation post for combat
operations.

The mass sighting of UFOs started after the first atomic tests in the
mid-1940s. They lingered until the worldwide moratorium on all nuke
tests in the late-1980s. (Keep track of all these dates, now!) In
1995, I saw a tv documentary narrated by none other than Leonard Nimoy
("Mr. Spock"). It was titled "Where Are All the UFOs?" It came across
as a slap in the faces of all those who believed in UFOs. (I wondered
how much they paid Nimoy to do that film!)

There are no more UFOs today. Or at least not like they were in the
1950s and 60s. They decreased as the number of nuke events decreased.
Today you have modern holographic projection technologies
(http://www.stealthskater.com/Military.htm#Holography ).

(Most scientists admit that there is likely ET civilizations
somewhere out in the Universe. But they regard the chances of them
coming to planet Earth as very unlikely. Even if they had craft that
could go faster-than-light, or use wormholes for shortcuts, or use
Macroscopic quantum tunneling [a la UNITEL], they would still have to
know the coordinates of a target destination [planet Earth]. How
would they ever know we existed? Certainly not by conventional
astronomy.

Joe McMoneagle ( http://www.stealthskater.com/PX.htm#McMoneagle )and
others have said that remote-viewing produces more vivid images when
viewing near powerful energy sources. In grasping at straws, I
wondered if ETs could not be using remote-viewing for navigational
[i.e., targetting] purposes. And our nuclear tests could be
unwittingly serving as powerful beacons of a sort.)

When I was researching the controverisal claims of Priore, Reich, and
others regarding the healing effects of RF and ELF waves on human
cells
(http://www.stealthskater.com/Medical.htm ), I would sometimes come
across references to the effects of atomic radiation. Tom Bearden
(granted, a former military counter-ops which in itself raises some
questions - http://www.stealthskater.com/Bearden.htm ) said that it is
possible to eliminate radioacitivity in a matter of minutes as opposed
to centuries of underground storage.

And yet some of these article were impossible to find even though
Google searches alerted me to them. Even the Internet Archives
("Wayback Machine") produced no results. I had often heard that parts
of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki investigations were still labeled
"Top-Secret" even after 50+ years. And these had nothing to do with
the
physics or engineering of the weapons. It pertained to some
biological
(consciousness/reality ???) effects that for some reason are to remain
suppressed.

The old AEC (Atomic Energy Commission) — nowadays the Department of
Energy — is rumored to be "top dog" in UFO-related material. One
owuld think it would be the NSA or CIA. Or certainly one of the
military branches. What does atomic energy have to do with UFO
realities?

Unlike the USA, Russia tends to believe eyewitness reports of UFOs.
"Believe" meaning that "we believe that you are sincerely telling what
you think you saw or experienced". Note that this doesn't necessarily
mean that those authorities believe that it was an actual alien flying
craft. But they believe in the sincerity of the eyewitnesses. They
almost welcome the reports as if they are corroborating something.
But maybe that is just my personal "take" on it.

It has long been rumored that most governments (1) know what "UFOs"
are
and (2) why&when "they" appear. It also seems that "they" constitute
no
security threat or more would be allocated in defense budgets (even
"black budgets" which can be estimated).

Some people see them while others — even looking at the same time sat
the same spot — do not. Explain that!

Psychologists like Carl Jung thought "UFOs" were more of "mental"
thing
than "physical". Was the eyewitness hallucinating (and creating false
images)? Or was it due to an enhanced mental condition that opened a
"sixth" (or seventh) sense that let him/her perceive Reality as it
really is?

With superstring and Pitkanen's TGD theories, the U.S. Navy allocated
a
contract to study the effects of Hyperdimensions on Human
Consciousness (
http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/TGD_Geometry_1.doc ).
That could be written off as another government "fleece" award.
However, I tend to think it was something more.

Our Universe is a sea of energy at its most fundamental level. What
gives rise to "mass" is something hypothsized to be the Higgs boson.
Also called the "God particle" for without it — enabling energy to
"solidify" into matter — matter (and our physical selves) would not
exist. The quest for confirmation of the Higgs particle has taken
decades and may be resolved with the upgraded CERN accelerator.

But what is Consciousness? Although discredited (like Lazar and
Nichols) — and may be for good reasons — microbiologist Dan Burisch
claims that he was also working at Papoose Site-4 on a separate
project
involving alien biology (http://www.stealthskater.com/Burisch.htm ) .
He purports to have discovered a "Ganesh particle" which is the "seed"
that allows consciousness to take root in a physical body. Sort of
like
a biological Higgs particle.

Bursich went on to say that his studies seemed to indicate that
"aliens" were not what we traditionally have thought. "They" were what
we become in the Future. And "they" were travelling back in what we
call "UFOs" (but what others — including German rocket pioneer Hermann
Oberth referred to as "time machines") to repair damage done to
timelines in the "Multiverse".

Nichols maintained that tinkering with "time" (not the space-time we
are familiar with in our 4D Universe) in the Montauk Project caused
what
would appear to be irreparable damage to existing "timelines". Efforts
were continuing to "contain" the damage until a solution (if possible)
could be found.

As far as I know, Nichols and Burisch have not comunicated with one
another. Although detractors might say that the latter borrowed from
the folk popular Montauk stories to add "credence" to his own tales.
Concidence or on purpose? Who knows ...

In the mid-1990s, former Air Force and NSA ELINT agent Dan Sherman
reported to be part of a "Project Preserve Destiny" that was to allow
human-"alien" communications to continue after an impending worldwide
cataclysm (http://www.stealthskater.com/Sherman.htm ).

Remote-viewers can reportedly "see" events up to a certain date
(usually 2012) and then a few years afterwards. Their reports vary
somewhat (as is the fundamental problem with remote-viewers). But they
are consistent on one thing: None of them can see what happens at this
"2012" time. Whatever it is, it seems to be inevitable.

Sherman's ETs said they can't "go through time (4D space-time)". That
is impossible. Rather they "evade it". I'm assuming that means they
are accessing an already-established timeline in the Mutliverse.
Something that inventor/remote-viewer Tom Skeggs proposes in his "Star
Chamber" (http://www.stealthskater.com/PX.htm#StarChamber ).

Instead of rocket propulsion or even "wormhole" travel, Tom suggests
"choosing" a timeline (destination and time) that already exists in
the
Multiverse). And then decohering the quantum wave (making it happen).
Reminds me of the Spice navigators of "Dune" folding space to effect
travel. Except in this case, time (including Past and Future) in
included as a bonus.

In 1988 (again, that date!), China was reported to have experimented
with "time travel" technology. I think this has more to do with
"Project Looking Glass"
(http://www.stealthskater.com/UFO.htm#LookingGlass ) and the
so-called "Montauk Project" than the H.G. Wells type we normally think
of.

In emails to me, Skeggs said that he visited Montauk to see how much
corroborated with his remote-viewings from England
(http://www.stealthskater.com/PX.htm#Skeggs ). I gather that he
suspects Montauk's SAGE radar was used to send coded transmissions to
CIA "moles". Drugs were used on ordinary citizens and then orders were
implanted in their subsconsious. If and when a certain day came, coded
transmissions from the powerful Montauk radar could 'turn on' these
implanted orders.

(Dr. John Quinn said that Colombine High School shooter Eric Davis's
father was stationed at Plattsburgh AFB when Davis was a child.)

Tom further said that if any "time" research was done, it would be
more
likely at upstate Plattsburgh AFB (housing all the nuclear warheads)
under the auspices of ROME Air Technology Center. He suspected that an
abandoned ICBM silo would be an ideal container for Montauk-type
experiments.

There were reports of "dimensional bleedthroughs"
(http://www.stealthskater.com/Bolt.htm#Bosoks ) by mainstream
physicist Fred Alan Wolf. These were reported to higher-ups in the
entertainment industry.

Dr. Wolf ("Have Brains, Will Travel" @ $250/consulting-hour) is a
good friend of UNITEL's Larry Maurer
( http://www.stealthskater.com/UNITEL.htm ). The latter said that he
was witness to a UFO sighting that turned into what he claimed was a
purposeful demonstration and insight.

While our physical Macro world seems well-governed (the rules of
General Relativity are supreme here), all sorts of crazy stuff happens
inthe micro Quantum world (governed by Quantum Mechanics). Nobody
understands QM. But its predictions are 100% accurate.

For example, subatomic particles can overcome energy barriers by
"quantum tunneling". George Gamow first proposed QT in the early
1900s.
(He later computed the cosmic microwave backgkround radiation that
would have been left over by the "Big Bang" if the latter were true.
In
the 1980s, the COBE satellite returned data that matched exactly what
Gamow and his team predicted decades earlier.) UNITEL proposes
to "fake
out" Mother Nature by making a Macro-sized object appear to be quantum
in nature and therefore allow tunneling (MQT) in the Macro Universe.

Some said this is what inadvertently happened in the fabled
"Philadelphia Experiment". All those static and rotating magnetic
fields caused the ship to appear as a giant "fuzzy" electron and
therefore governed by QM instead of GR. How consciousness was affected
is an altogether different matter. That supposedly gave rise to the
"Phoenix Project" which later (with Phoenix II and III) became
collectively known as the "Montauk Project".

Einstein was aware of the weird interactions between paired photons.
Communications were instantaneous and not limited by the speed-of-
light.
He didn't like it, calling it "spooky action at a distance". However,
it has been proven true although no one understands "nonlocality"
(i.e.,
traveling instanteoulsy and, therefore, faster-than-light).

Ray Kramer proposed his own grand unification theory (i.e., uniting GR
with QM — the "holy grail" of all physicists although it doesn't
include theories of consciousness). It doesn't seem to require extra
dimensions. He was a former electrical engineering professor at a Ohio
college (Youngstown?).

His son — famed missing person Philip Taylor Kramer — brought Ray
to public light. The son solved the father's "Equation" accidentally
after it had thwarted the latter for decades. It purports to allow
instantaneous communication anywhere within the Universe. There have
been rumors that actual biological teleportation would also be
allowed.
( http://www.stealthskater.com/Science.htm#Kramer )

It seems remarkable to me that many mainstream physicists are so well
versed in the "alt sciences" of remote-viewing and quantum
teleporation.
And I read where even Los Alamos has developed technolgies to "tag" an
individual electron in an attempt to understand its wave function and
"decohering" it (i.e., the act of "observation", thereby fixing its
position). One is limited in the Macro world governed by GR. But it
seems you can do anything in the quantum microcosm!

Now to conclude all of this.

It would be nice to say that "UFOs" are from another dimension.
Perhaps those that exist in the superstring/M-brane theories (if they
turn out to be correct, which they might not be a la Kramer's "The
Equation" or Loop-Quantum Gravity). It would tie everything up in a
nice near package. Machines that quantum tunnel from other dimensions,
thus evading SOL restrictions.

I have a gut feeling that it is not that "simple". It is more complex
and centers on the very nature of "Reality". I think the answer lies
in
exploring Consciouness (
http://www.stealthskater.com/Consciousness.htm
). Unlike the physical world, anything is possible in the quantum
realm
(and indeed, it HAS to occur!).

The existing timelines in the Multiverse would seem to validate parts
of predestiny and deja vu. If these can be accessed (or "decohered"),
then all notions of Reality have to be re-examined.

The important part that "UFOs" bring to me is to highlight what may be
suppressed regarding nuclear tests. Can these be damaging the
timelines? Are entities (actual "aliens" or ourselves in the Future)
appearing at each test to "warn" us or show their displeasure? For
some
reason, I don't think it's that simple (although it would be nice if
it
was!).

I get the gut feeling that the answer lies within individual
consciousness. And what is experienced as "reality" to one may not be
by another. So in that regard, I don't dismiss folklore like Site-4
and
Montauk so readily although I may concede that the actual events could
have occured elsewhre.

I don't have a ready answer for why UFOs have been allegedly
photographed and tracked on radar. Maybe they have been. We only have
the word of those who did it. Something in all of us wants to believe
in off-world aliens, I suspect.

It just doesn't seem to be that simple, though. I imagine such beliefs
would be of use to divert public attention from some screw-ups. It
might help in administering civil law&order.

But if the secrets behind timelines, nuclear events, and consciousness
were revealed, it might reveal too much about Reality (and religion)
that would upset the status quo. And therein lies the truth ...

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#10340 From: Todd Pierce <kobaldotter@...>
Date: Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:45 pm
Subject: Re: [SFTT] New member
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WAIT TIL YOU SEE THE BIG GOLDEN CUBE FATHERSHIP DESCENDING UPON THE "NAVEL OF
THE WORLD". IT'LL BE BEYOND AWESOME.
   :TODD

Marion Lathem <skylink@...> wrote:
           To me our space program, may as well be in a Childs sand box in the
back yard as compared to the alien ships we are seeing. Lyle
----- Original Message -----
From: Jessi
To: sftt2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: [SFTT] New member

I just want to welcome the two new members. I used to come here
frequently when there was a lot of info. I'm mainly interested in the
space program, you know...NASA, Shuttles, I.S.S. and all that.
--- In sftt2@yahoogroups.com, Todd Pierce <kobaldotter@...> wrote:
>
> Kennie,
>
> That's part of the strange nature of contact. How many times have you
been "led" to suddenly go to the bookstore, and there, on a shelf, is
EXACTLY what you feel you were compelled to read???
>
> Mind-expansion. That's why. The Greys have m ade contact with the
power structure of our world, but they aren't being received. That's why
they're going public everywhere, to speak to those who have the ears to
hear, and eyes to see.
>
> Also, and let me be perfectly clear about this, JUST BECAUSE THESE
BEINGS HAVE VAST TECHNOLOGY, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'VE NEGLECTED THEIR
SPIRITUALITY. ANGELS CAN UNDERSTAND QUANTUM PHYSICS, RIGHT????? WHY
NOT??
>
> :TODD PIERCE
>
> Marion Lathem skylink@... wrote:
> Hi Kennie,
> I'm new to the group as well...! There isn't much activity...
hopefully it will pick up...??
> Take Care, Lyle
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kennie Leblanc
> To: sftt2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 10:19 PM
> Subject: [SFTT] New member
>
> My name is Kennie Leblanc and I live in Nova Scotia, Canada.
>
> I have been interested in unidentified flying objects for years since
> I saw a UFO in the summer of 1976. If it was a dream, why do I
> remember it as if it was yesterday? Why did I tell my father the
> following morning? I have never been one to make up stories. I don't
> remember it but I'm sure I got up out of bed & looked out my bedroom
> window.
>
> As for the consequences, I soon developed a passionate interest in
> UFO's. And I have a bookcase filled with books on the subject to prove
> it. Have never been able to figure out why I've been buying them. I
> just know I have to.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
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#10339 From: lifesaver <globenext@...>
Date: Thu Aug 23, 2007 5:47 pm
Subject: Re: [SFTT] New member
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I too hada very close encounter with a UFO, but in
1967. My fiance and I were driving around lake a few
miles north of town at about 10:00 one night, and
stopped next to a craft, which was hovering over a
fence next to the blacktop road we were on. We both
got out of the car and stood watching itt. it was
maybe 20 feet away and about 20 feet in the air.It
souded like a huge vac cleaner. A white spotlight
shined down for the craft and it slowly moved off
west, then shot at an angle up and out of sight in a
manner of maybe five seconds. Amazing!
--- Marion Lathem <skylink@...> wrote:

> To me our space program, may as well be in a Childs
> sand box in the back yard as compared to the alien
> ships we are seeing.  Lyle
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Jessi
>   To: sftt2@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:02 AM
>   Subject: Re: [SFTT] New member
>
>
>   I just want to welcome the two new members. I used
> to come here
>   frequently when there was a lot of info. I'm
> mainly interested in the
>   space program, you know...NASA, Shuttles, I.S.S.
> and all that.
>   --- In sftt2@yahoogroups.com, Todd Pierce
> <kobaldotter@...> wrote:
>   >
>   > Kennie,
>   >
>   > That's part of the strange nature of contact.
> How many times have you
>   been "led" to suddenly go to the bookstore, and
> there, on a shelf, is
>   EXACTLY what you feel you were compelled to
> read???
>   >
>   > Mind-expansion. That's why. The Greys have m ade
> contact with the
>   power structure of our world, but they aren't
> being received. That's why
>   they're going public everywhere, to speak to those
> who have the ears to
>   hear, and eyes to see.
>   >
>   > Also, and let me be perfectly clear about this,
> JUST BECAUSE THESE
>   BEINGS HAVE VAST TECHNOLOGY, THAT DOESN'T MEAN
> THEY'VE NEGLECTED THEIR
>   SPIRITUALITY. ANGELS CAN UNDERSTAND QUANTUM
> PHYSICS, RIGHT????? WHY
>   NOT??
>   >
>   > :TODD PIERCE
>   >
>   > Marion Lathem skylink@... wrote:
>   > Hi Kennie,
>   > I'm new to the group as well...! There isn't
> much activity...
>   hopefully it will pick up...??
>   > Take Care, Lyle
>   > ----- Original Message -----
>   > From: Kennie Leblanc
>   > To: sftt2@yahoogroups.com
>   > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 10:19 PM
>   > Subject: [SFTT] New member
>   >
>   > My name is Kennie Leblanc and I live in Nova
> Scotia, Canada.
>   >
>   > I have been interested in unidentified flying
> objects for years since
>   > I saw a UFO in the summer of 1976. If it was a
> dream, why do I
>   > remember it as if it was yesterday? Why did I
> tell my father the
>   > following morning? I have never been one to make
> up stories. I don't
>   > remember it but I'm sure I got up out of bed &
> looked out my bedroom
>   > window.
>   >
>   > As for the consequences, I soon developed a
> passionate interest in
>   > UFO's. And I have a bookcase filled with books
> on the subject to prove
>   > it. Have never been able to figure out why I've
> been buying them. I
>   > just know I have to.
>   >
>   > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
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> Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user
>   panel and lay it on us.
>   >
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> removed]
>   >
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