This onion skin idea got me thinking. In a way I like it, in a way I don't. Overall, I'm not sure where I stand. One thing I know that I diskike is numbering...
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Shigeru Mabuchi
mab@xxxxxx.xx.xxx
Feb 2, 1999 3:57 am
Thanks for your response. ... I didn't consider very special case or local rules used by amateurs because absolutely there is no chance to standardize them. ...
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Shigeru Mabuchi
mab@xxxxxx.xx.xxx
Feb 2, 1999 4:43 am
Hi, Arno, ... Actually, I added TL[] before I read the complete document on FF[4]. I thought the FF[4] document in the CGF Journal (Japanese only) was the...
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Robert Jasiek
jasiek@xxxxxx.xxxxx.xxx
Feb 2, 1999 9:01 am
... I agree. Currently that would be yet more information to be put in GC[]. Adding more and more properties for such needs is possible but not too pleasant,...
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YAMAKAWA Kazuki
sakana@xx.xxx.xx.xxx
Feb 2, 1999 10:33 am
Hi ! First time to be here, I'm Kazuki, Japanese. ... (1) How about call it "SHELL" ? I think SHELLs are : (revised Williams') SHELL 0: Neeeded-To-Replay-A...
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Arno Hollosi
ahollosi@xxxx.xxxxxxx...
Feb 2, 1999 11:14 am
Hi all, I like Bill's idea of organizing the 'skins' into shells for a given purpose. And I'm quite thrilled about the idea that Nihon Kiin might start using...
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Arno Hollosi
ahollosi@xxxx.xxxxxxx...
Feb 2, 1999 11:23 am
Hi, this is a question to those subscribers of this list who use SGF to store comments (or kibitz) in Chinese, Japanese, or Korean. Could there be a problem...
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Arno Hollosi
ahollosi@xxxx.xxxxxxx...
Feb 2, 1999 11:28 am
... This is not quite true. E.g. it's possible to have TR,LB,TW,DD on the same point with several AR's and LN's starting from that point too. What sense would...
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mueller@xxx.xx.xxxxxx...
mueller@xxx.xx.xxxxxx...
Feb 2, 1999 1:19 pm
... To create abstract paintings :) Martin...
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mueller@xxx.xx.xxxxxx...
mueller@xxx.xx.xxxxxx...
Feb 2, 1999 1:19 pm
I think the concept of Skins, Shells, (I like 'Packages' better...) has been inofficially around for a while, even for SGF4 and earlier. We always allowed...
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Robert Jasiek
jasiek@xxxxxx.xxxxx.xxx
Feb 2, 1999 1:40 pm
... FF[4] agreement was about to close when printing properties came up; they are not well covered yet, IMO. Currently, I could not do without private printing...
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Robert Jasiek
jasiek@xxxxxx.xxxxx.xxx
Feb 2, 1999 1:59 pm
... Yes, of course. I have not wanted to include AR and LN in the single point markup property class. ... None. Therefore my suggestion. -- robert jasiek...
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William M. Shubert
wms@xxxxxxx.xxxx
Feb 2, 1999 5:07 pm
As I posted earlier, I am using UTF-8 to store non-Roman characters in SGF files. In UTF-8, all "wide" (ie more than 8 bit) characters will have bit 7 set in...
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Shigeru Mabuchi
mab@xxxxxx.xx.xxx
Feb 3, 1999 3:50 am
A short opinion on Robert's suggestion. ... I like this idea. It saves us lots of property resources, and is flexible to accustom to many cases, like...
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Shigeru Mabuchi
mab@xxxxxx.xx.xxx
Feb 3, 1999 6:10 am
Here are some infos that I would like to let you know, which is closely related to topics on FF5[].. There were a few meetings held last year, which involved...
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Robert Jasiek
jasiek@xxxxxx.xxxxx.xxx
Feb 3, 1999 9:33 am
... There were a few meetings held last year, which involved Sakai 9p, also rep. from WWGo, Sansan (A Japaneset Net Go-club) and a few major go-related...
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Arno Hollosi
ahollosi@xxxx.xxxxxxx...
Feb 3, 1999 12:27 pm
... This is already possible, Robert. An open grid can only occur, if some part of the board is displayed instead of the full board. Partial views can be ...
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Arno Hollosi
ahollosi@xxxx.xxxxxxx...
Feb 3, 1999 12:45 pm
Hi all, please send me an email at <ahollosi@...> if you think that we should start creating FF[5]. Also, tell me if you'd like a minor or a major update....
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Arno Hollosi
ahollosi@xxxx.xxxxxxx...
Feb 3, 1999 1:21 pm
... RE[] has an entry called RE[Void] which covers uncounted games. It doesn't give a reason, why these games are uncounted, though. ... Using Japanese rules...
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Shigeru Mabuchi
mab@xxxxxx.xx.xxx
Feb 3, 1999 4:01 pm
... Yes, I learnt about it only very recently. Is there a summary somewhere around there? Anyway, following is a list of possible result that I collected, with...
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Robert Jasiek
jasiek@xxxxxx.xxxxx.xxx
Feb 3, 1999 5:03 pm
... [...] This is a good start but incomplete. Later I will add more. E.g. BothPlayersWin is possible. ... I like the idea of a details option. Thereby we...
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YAMAKAWA Kazuki
sakana@xx.xxx.xx.xxx
Feb 3, 1999 8:07 am
... Yet. In Japanese, there are 3 encodings: SJIS(used in PC), EUC(in Unix), JIS(in mainly mail protocol). So, for us Japanese, character-encoding is more...
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Jan van der Steen
Jan.van.der.Steen@xxx...
Feb 6, 1999 12:30 pm
Hi, First a small note to mention that I signed on the mailing list. While Arno requested me several times in the past to register I had no time to participate...
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Arno Hollosi
ahollosi@xxxx.xxxxxxx...
Feb 6, 1999 2:30 pm
Hi, the results of the CFV are: 7 votes for FF[5], 0 votes against. Therefore we start discussing FF[5]. I'll post an announcement to rec.games.go as well. The...
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Robert Jasiek
jasiek@xxxxxx.xxxxx.xxx
Feb 6, 1999 2:49 pm
... Before the CFV result will have been reported, I give only most essential comments. In principle, many properties seem to need some general text option. ...
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David Fotland
fotland@xxxxxxxxxxx.x...
Feb 6, 1999 5:54 pm
I'd like to make a very strong plea for backwards compatibility. SGF was conceived from the start to be extensible in a way that new files can still be read by...
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YAMAKAWA Kazuki
sakana@xx.xxx.xx.xxx
Feb 6, 1999 10:08 pm
... (snipped) Hi, dears, It's exciting to start SGF[5] discussion. How about that we define SGF[5]'s preceding target "Implementing the ability to record the...
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Dave Dyer
ddyer@xxxxxxx.xxxx
Feb 6, 1999 10:33 pm
As one who also also uses SGF for games other than Go, I think the current discussion is somewhat misguided. Attempting to optimize and make concrete the...
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John Fairbairn
JF@xxxxxxxx.xxxxx.xx....
Feb 6, 1999 11:56 pm
Hi I'm new to this forum, and newcomers are supposed to be circumspect. But in the hope that I can represent at least one section of ordinary users, may I make...
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Robert Jasiek
jasiek@xxxxxx.xxxxx.xxx
Feb 7, 1999 4:55 pm
This letter contains proposals about several prperties. ... AN simpletext Function: Provides the name of the person, who made the annotations to the game. ...
