do you mean a black badger face is a solid black sheep with a badger face? I've never seen one of these. stephen ... Ab/A? B+/B? The sheep is black with a...
Hi Stephen: I think the term, black badgerface, refers to AbAaBBB? and is used to differentiate that from badgerface on a brown background. It is a regular ...
I'm not 'up' on bagderface sheep, never having had one :) I'm puzzled by the way Ab/?? sheep are being differentiated by the second Agouti gene. Are all Ab...
Hi Holly: I believe the theory is that light will dominate over dark, as in most of the alleles at Agouti. So, AbAa is darker in phenotype than AbAg or...
I wonder if the "light badgerface" might be simply a modified base color rather than a separate gene - "charcoal" (shaela?) or mioget. As I understand it,...
No, The black and brown are the color under the B locus. The Agouti pattern is Badgerface or Light Badgerface. The pens Roland had at his barbecue were: 2...
Stephen, A black badger could be as you say, but Black Badgers, to me, are AbA? but not necessarily AgAa. The other allele could be another Ab or At (Black and...
Holly, Good question. This still intrigues me, too. I think AbAb are the strongest Badgerface patterns. AbAt (Badger/Black and Tan) generally produce a mostly ...
Gail, Roland's studies were to prove it was a different allele. This is accepted by the genetic community. What it takes to prove a different allele is...
The main thing that struck me when Roland was picking up his lambs and showing us the differences between them. Was that the light badgerface have a light ...
We AI'd 10 ewes to a AbAt BB/Bb ram this autumn (2004). (Shetland ram registered with the SSS in England). We used all black or brown ewes to AI to this...
when you write they have a "light area across their hocks"...do you mean a "tan" stripe on the legs? I had always heard that "good badger markings" should...
Hello Stephen: As I understand it, the light area on the inside of the hocks is sort of a continuation of the lightening of the scrotum/groin area. It is not...
The pictures in the Congress proceedings books show it best. When the badgerface lamb is turned up on it's rump so we are looking at the belly. The ...
this description sounds much like the Abg badger. (gray badger). Not sure how one would know the difference. stephen jabbourl@... wrote: The pictures...
I think they are the same thing - just new nomenclature. Peter Pan certainly fits the description to a T. Now I wonder about Anastasia, his mother. Stephen,...
... I'm afraid not. For people in the US or Canada, the book of the 6th Congress is (or will be shortly) available from Peggy Lundquist of Black Sheep News ...
Hi Gail and Stephen: My understanding of Adalsteinsson's Colour Inheritance in Icelandic Sheep (pages 21 - 30) is that he outlined the segregations to show...
Shearing time should confirm that Peter Pan is not Ag, at least I hope so. Now I'm wondering about his dam, who now belongs to someone else. I still have a...
Hi Gail; Yes, my feeling also from my reading and discussions with Dr. Sumner; light badgerface is equivalent to greymouflon (one gene to make the pattern)...
This is a good discussion. Conversations with Adalsteinsson eons ago revealed that he thought he had probably lumped some "cousin" patterns together. It is...
According to COGNOSAG Agb grey badgerface was the Allele Symbol in 1986. In 1988 the same Allele was changed to light badgerface Albf. So yes the description...
Thanks Laurelen! That clears it up a lot for me! I believe this is a line of badgers I have. They are born with the full set of markings but "fade" on...
For newbies and lurkers and myself, I beg the group to clarify a point. There has been repeated definition of Black Badgerface as AbAaBBBB (or B+B+) which...