Glad it worked out. Seeing it on XP, it was slightly different,
but still close enough to get you in the ball park.
For a minute, I thought I was from Boston...
"It is a little had to describe,"  (opps)...

Rick Glazier


--- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, "Jacqueline Davidson"
<fredjacqueline@...> wrote:
>
> Rick you are spot on.  To celebrate, I emptied the sents of about 150 emails
so all should be better.
> Jackie is happy once more.
> Thanks, Jackie
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: rickglaz4742435
>   To: simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 10:04 PM
>   Subject: [Simply Computers] Re: dating send posting
>
>
>
>   Sounds like a sorting problem. I'm on a Win7 Laptop, so I'm
>   doing this from memory. Open your e-mail.
>   Right click on a column header. That should open a customize dialog.
>   Add the columns you want to see.
>   After you have them, Put your mouse on the edges of the column headers and
drag them to the width you want.
>   Drag the different columns from the center to either side to place them in
the left to right order you want.
>   Click on the different headers to change the sorting.
>   (Ascending or descending.)
>   Try this to see if it makes sense. It is a little had to describe,
>   So I hope it was clear.
>
>   Side note, this works in all types of places where there are columns.
>
>   Rick Glazier
>
>   --- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, "Jacqueline Davidson"
<fredjacqueline@> wrote:
>   >
>   > I called him, he could not remember what he did and could not tell me how
to fix it.
>   > I used to see the sents with the last one sent on the bottom, the next was
next to the last, etc. (he was a geek squad person)
>   > I had the time in a columm, and my name was not somehow spelled out and
did not take a lot of space. I cannot remember how it looked, unfortunately. Now
I have three columms, from, subject and to, no date, and they are scrambled and
clumpted in the to columm, all the posts to my sister are together, etc. This is
not the way I had it.
>   > I hve tried all the ways I know to put it back with no luck.
>   > Jackie
>   > ----- Original Message -----
>   > From: Vince
>   > To: simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com
>   > Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 7:43 PM
>   > Subject: [Simply Computers] Re: dating send posting
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > Maybe it's me. I don't use XP, or OE. But what specifically is the
problem. What happened specfically before, what happens or doesn't now? Did you
call the tech who worked on it for help?
>   >
>   > --- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, "Jacqueline Davidson"
<fredjacqueline@> wrote:
>   > >
>   > > When the fellow worked on my computer, an ASUS motherboard, built for
me, using XP, Outlook exp, Internet exp, he changed something in my sents and I
cannot return it to enable the dates on Send. Please help.
>   > > Jackie
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>   >
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Peek in the case and see if the MotherBoard has a model number.
If you have a manual, see if it either has a picture of the jumpers,
or instructions for clearing the BIOS. (The password will clear too.)

As discussed recently, this is a major problem with a LAPTOP since
they are so easily lost and stolen.
But it is fairly easy with *most* desktops. (Except newer ones.)
You just need the proper instructions. A model number would go a long
way with helping us to get you those instructions.

Most shops could do this fairly cheap, if it came to that...
(Plus, you will have to reconfigure the BIOS settings from their "defaults"
after you were done clearing it.)
If you get a shop, have them change the CMOS battery and do the
"whole thing" at once. (That would save money in the long run.)

Rick Glazier

--- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, "witchy1cackle" <cackle1cackle2@...>
wrote:
>
> hi son bought me a computer at an auction and i cant get into it i need help
on how to by pass the pass word  the computer is a A open motherboard with an A
open processer  ive never heard of this is there any one that can help
>

Hello~
 
There are numerous hacking password retrievals that you can download or pay for.
Your best bet is to re-install the operating system. If you don't have the $$ to
buy the operating system (Windows XP, Vista, 7) then I would recommend the
password recovery tools. Here is a link to some of them:
 
http://pcsupport.about.com/od/toolsofthetrade/tp/passrecovery.htm

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, witchy1cackle <cackle1cackle2@...> wrote:


From: witchy1cackle <cackle1cackle2@...>
Subject: [Simply Computers] help help help
To: simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 1:11 PM


 



hi son bought me a computer at an auction and i cant get into it i need help on
how to by pass the pass word the computer is a A open motherboard with an A open
processer ive never heard of this is there any one that can help











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You have to disconnect power, open the case if it's a tower or a desktop and
look for the CMOS battery(it's small white) looks like a quater $.

You can loctate it arount the middle or the on the side on the MB,
remove it gingerly with a small screw drive. Then put it back on the MB, reboot
and then your BIOS/CMOS will reset bypassing the password.

If you cannot do that and you are not savvy, take it to a PC technichian who
will do it for you.


--- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, "witchy1cackle" <cackle1cackle2@...>
wrote:
>
> hi son bought me a computer at an auction and i cant get into it i need help
on how to by pass the pass word  the computer is a A open motherboard with an A
open processer  ive never heard of this is there any one that can help
>

I recently switched isp to clearwire and am getting a 'broken link' message
when I try to access utorrent web page and forums.  Is utorrent down?  Or
does anyone know if clearwire blocks access?



rd



"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in
broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly
proclaiming -- WOW--What a Ride!!!"





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hi son bought me a computer at an auction and i cant get into it i need help on
how to by pass the pass word  the computer is a A open motherboard with an A
open processer  ive never heard of this is there any one that can help

I don't really want to know all of that about all the possible scenarios but it
is a distinction Jer needs to think about - i.e. just what exactly is this
"Acer" upgrade disk and what should I do to install it. You would need to know
what it is and what it isn't , eh? And inquire Acer to that end.

Michael A. Carr CPA
email : michaelcarrcpa@...

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, rickglaz4742435 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


From: rickglaz4742435 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Simply Computers] A timely update
To: simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 3:33 PM


 



This is an impossible technical discussion.
Even IF we leave the legal parts out of it.

Windows allows too many unknown variables, (their biggest strength
and weakness), and the Channel type OEMs continue in the same way by
all doing things differently. ..

I would LOVE to get my hands on a bunch of different OEM upgrade
DVDs, but that is unlikely to happen, especially anytime soon...

Rick Glazier

--- In simplycomputers2@ yahoogroups. com, Michael Carr <michaelcarrcpa@ ...>
wrote:
>
> yes -how true - but my main point about the upgrade disks is that I am not
sure you can depend on the manufacturer to add onto the disk anything else you
mike require. Unlike recovery disks which include the new drivers.
>  
> While the disks may be keyed to a bios chip ( or sumthin' else) they usually
don't add any update functionality for driver and vendor specific add on's. 
>
> Michael A. Carr CPA
> email : michaelcarrcpa@ ...
>
> --- On Mon, 11/9/09, rickglaz4742435 <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: rickglaz4742435 <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> Subject: Re: [Simply Computers] A timely update
> To: simplycomputers2@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 1:55 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> The only thing I know about this "for sure" is we will never know
> anything "for sure" without seeing each manufacturers disks
> individually and doing a forensic examination of them.
> (I don't plan on doing that BTW, <grin>)
>
> It is mind boggling how much effort they put into trying to prevent
> casual copying of the OS (to multiple computers).
>
> This is the same conversation we get into about the Win-OS license
> types in general. It is boring and confusing and goes nowhere.
>
> Rick Glazier
>
> --- In simplycomputers2@ yahoogroups. com, Michael Carr <michaelcarrcpa@ ...>
wrote:
> >
> > Ricks advice is good.
> >  
> > However , and this may not be applicable with OEM software but since
probably most of them are outsourcing fullfillment my  guess is they are
more generic than we think.
> >  
> > I tried a retail upgrade install from a full copy of MS WIN & Ultimate. I
elected an inplace installation. I was in a rush and did not check the vendors
site ( Toshiba) where they thay had model specific upgrade instructions which
included a program to run after a clean intall or a seperate on for a upgrade
install.
> >  
> > I didn't install it and had funky stuff going on with video,
> >  
> > I elected to play it safe and do a clean install and ran the
utility program and everything is hunky dory now.
> >  
> > 1. I agree it's stalled. Cacel it if possible and restart. I
hope yuo backed up your data.
> > 2,. if machine restarts and you didn't backup - do it now.
> > 3. while waiting check out completely Acers site in general and your model
in particular for instructions.
> > 4. do an clean install if at all possible if you have a good data backup.
> >  
> > Bon Chance 
> >
> > Michael A. Carr CPA
> > email : michaelcarrcpa@ ...
> >
> > --- On Mon, 11/9/09, Michael Carr <michaelcarrcpa@ ...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Michael Carr <michaelcarrcpa@ ...>
> > Subject: Re: [Simply Computers] A timely update
> > To: simplycomputers2@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 9:18 AM
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> > ger- my bad - you clearly stated upgrade
> >
> > Michael A. Carr CPA
> > email : michaelcarrcpa@ yahoo.com
> >
> > --- On Mon, 11/9/09, Michael Carr <michaelcarrcpa@ yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Michael Carr <michaelcarrcpa@ yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Simply Computers] A timely update
> > To: simplycomputers2@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 9:09 AM
> >
> >  
> >
> > are you doing a clean install or an update?
> >
> > Michael A. Carr CPA
> > email : michaelcarrcpa@ yahoo.com
> >
> > --- On Sun, 11/8/09, Jerry Gmail <jhnidy@gmail. com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Jerry Gmail <jhnidy@gmail. com>
> > Subject: [Simply Computers] A timely update
> > To: simplycomputers2@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 8:43 PM
> >
> >  
> >
> > I bought an Acer desktop about a month ago with vista.
> > Part of the deal was that it would upgrade to win7.
> >
> > The upgrade disks came a couple of days ago.
> >
> > I started the upgrade about 25 HOURS ago.
> > The machine says it is collecting files and settings.
> > It says it is 88 percent done but it has been at 88 for 4 hours.
> >
> > As anybody else seen this?
> > I don't see anything I can do - if I turn off the machine I bet it won't
> > boot up in vista.
> >
> > Next time I will just wait and buy a win7 machine.
> >
> > Google Jer
> > Woodhaven, Mi
> >
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> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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Rick you are spot on.  To celebrate, I emptied the sents of about 150 emails so
all should be better.
Jackie is happy once more.
Thanks, Jackie
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: rickglaz4742435
   To: simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 10:04 PM
   Subject: [Simply Computers] Re: dating send posting



   Sounds like a sorting problem. I'm on a Win7 Laptop, so I'm
   doing this from memory. Open your e-mail.
   Right click on a column header. That should open a customize dialog.
   Add the columns you want to see.
   After you have them, Put your mouse on the edges of the column headers and
drag them to the width you want.
   Drag the different columns from the center to either side to place them in the
left to right order you want.
   Click on the different headers to change the sorting.
   (Ascending or descending.)
   Try this to see if it makes sense. It is a little had to describe,
   So I hope it was clear.

   Side note, this works in all types of places where there are columns.

   Rick Glazier

   --- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, "Jacqueline Davidson"
<fredjacqueline@...> wrote:
   >
   > I called him, he could not remember what he did and could not tell me how to
fix it.
   > I used to see the sents with the last one sent on the bottom, the next was
next to the last, etc. (he was a geek squad person)
   > I had the time in a columm, and my name was not somehow spelled out and did
not take a lot of space. I cannot remember how it looked, unfortunately. Now I
have three columms, from, subject and to, no date, and they are scrambled and
clumpted in the to columm, all the posts to my sister are together, etc. This is
not the way I had it.
   > I hve tried all the ways I know to put it back with no luck.
   > Jackie
   > ----- Original Message -----
   > From: Vince
   > To: simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com
   > Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 7:43 PM
   > Subject: [Simply Computers] Re: dating send posting
   >
   >
   >
   > Maybe it's me. I don't use XP, or OE. But what specifically is the problem.
What happened specfically before, what happens or doesn't now? Did you call the
tech who worked on it for help?
   >
   > --- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, "Jacqueline Davidson"
<fredjacqueline@> wrote:
   > >
   > > When the fellow worked on my computer, an ASUS motherboard, built for me,
using XP, Outlook exp, Internet exp, he changed something in my sents and I
cannot return it to enable the dates on Send. Please help.
   > > Jackie
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
   >





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I am putting together a reply to another message that will include your answer. 
I want to make sure that I get everything right.

Google Jer
Woodhaven, Mi


-----Original Message-----
From: simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Michael Carr
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 9:10 AM
To: simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Simply Computers] A timely update

are you doing a clean install or an update?

Michael A. Carr CPA
email : michaelcarrcpa@...

--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Jerry Gmail <jhnidy@...> wrote:


From: Jerry Gmail <jhnidy@...>
Subject: [Simply Computers] A timely update
To: simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 8:43 PM






I bought an Acer desktop about a month ago with vista.
Part of the deal was that it would upgrade to win7.

The upgrade disks came a couple of days ago.

I started the upgrade about 25 HOURS ago.
The machine says it is collecting files and settings.
It says it is 88 percent done but it has been at 88 for 4 hours.

As anybody else seen this?
I don't see anything I can do - if I turn off the machine I bet it won't
boot up in vista.

Next time I will just wait and buy a win7 machine.

Google Jer
Woodhaven, Mi











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I wrote that Im using the correct username password and settings.  Im not
interested in installing thunderbird I was trying to see what the portable
version would do. Since no one is using it Ill forget about it.

--- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, rickglaz4742435 <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> I was hoping you looked at Gmail for the Thunderbird settings.
> Here they are for the archives, other members, or in case you still
> have the program installed:
> <http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=38343>
> This one has pictures:
> <http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=86399>
>
> Rick Glazier
>
> --- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, waltmatheus <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > Since this is my first experience with thunderbird I dont know enough about
this portable version but I think outgoing mail needs authentication and Im not
trying to send Im trying to receive and I dont think authentication has anything
to do with receiving. I am going to give up on this because I dont want to spend
a lot of time trying to get something to work that I thought would work as it
is.
> >
> > --- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, rickglaz4742435 <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > You do not list that you are using "authenticated" below.
> > > I listed that in my first reply as one of my settings that works
> > > perfectly for me).
> > > Generally speaking, if that is set wrong,
> > > (backwards one way or the other),  (or anything else wrong),
> > > people will have the type of problem you are experiencing.
> > >
> > > Remember also that sending and receiving are totally different.
> > > Some places require you to "use one" before the other, but that is
> > > a requirement fading in popularity at the ISPs or hosts.
> > > I can't remember that being an issue anyplace I go recently.
> > >
> > > I've used Gmail for years, and for several years have only exported and
imported the settings from computer to computer. By that I am
> > > trying to say they do NOT seem to change them at all from year to year.
> > >
> > > Disclaimer: I don't use Thunderbird, but all the settings should be the
same as the ones used in OE. (Or Windows Mail, Or Windows Live Mail, etc...) The
servers don't really care what e-mail program you are using.
> > >
> > > Rick Glazier
> > >
> > > --- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, waltmatheus <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am using the correct user name(******@...) password and
settings(pop.gmail.com - 995 - ssl) which are the same as those that work in OE
but do not work in the thunderbird portable account where I get that not
accepted notice. I have removed the account then reset it again more than once
and still get that message. I dont know what to try to change that.
> > > >
> > > > --- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, "John E. Clinard"
<johneclinard@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > It may be that the password you are providing is correct, but your
user name on the Tbird account isn't correct. Go to Tools>Account Settings and
click the 'server settings' for your Gmail account.  The 'User Name' should
agree with the login name you use at Gmail.  HTH.
> > > > >
> > > > > John
> > > > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >   From: johneclinard@
> > > > >   To: john.clinard@
> > > > >   Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 5:38 PM
> > > > >   Subject: Fwd: [Simply Computers] Thunderbird portable
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >   -----Original Message-----
> > > > >   From: waltmatheus <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > >   To: simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com
> > > > >   Sent: Fri, Nov 6, 2009 9:12 am
> > > > >   Subject: [Simply Computers] Thunderbird portable
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >   This is my first experience with Thunderbird. I tried to set a gmail
account in Thunderbird portable which is on a usb thumb drive and although I put
in my correct gmail address and password I repeatedly get this message: "Sending
of password did not succeed. Mail server pop.gmail.com responded: Username and
password not accepted." Using OE on my hard drive I am able to get messages.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

This is an impossible technical discussion.
Even IF we leave the legal parts out of it.

Windows allows too many unknown variables, (their biggest strength
and weakness), and the Channel type OEMs continue in the same way by
all doing things differently...

I would LOVE to get my hands on a bunch of different OEM upgrade
DVDs, but that is unlikely to happen, especially anytime soon...

Rick Glazier

--- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, Michael Carr <michaelcarrcpa@...>
wrote:
>
> yes -how true - but my main point about the upgrade disks is that I am not
sure you can depend on the manufacturer to add onto the disk anything else you
mike require. Unlike recovery disks which include the new drivers.
>  
> While the disks may be keyed to a bios chip ( or sumthin' else) they usually
don't add any update functionality for driver and vendor specific add on's. 
>
> Michael A. Carr CPA
> email : michaelcarrcpa@...
>
> --- On Mon, 11/9/09, rickglaz4742435 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: rickglaz4742435 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Simply Computers] A timely update
> To: simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 1:55 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> The only thing I know about this "for sure" is we will never know
> anything "for sure" without seeing each manufacturers disks
> individually and doing a forensic examination of them.
> (I don't plan on doing that BTW, <grin>)
>
> It is mind boggling how much effort they put into trying to prevent
> casual copying of the OS (to multiple computers).
>
> This is the same conversation we get into about the Win-OS license
> types in general. It is boring and confusing and goes nowhere.
>
> Rick Glazier
>
> --- In simplycomputers2@ yahoogroups. com, Michael Carr <michaelcarrcpa@ ...>
wrote:
> >
> > Ricks advice is good.
> >  
> > However , and this may not be applicable with OEM software but since
probably most of them are outsourcing fullfillment my  guess is they are more
generic than we think.
> >  
> > I tried a retail upgrade install from a full copy of MS WIN & Ultimate. I
elected an inplace installation. I was in a rush and did not check the vendors
site ( Toshiba) where they thay had model specific upgrade instructions which
included a program to run after a clean intall or a seperate on for a upgrade
install.
> >  
> > I didn't install it and had funky stuff going on with video,
> >  
> > I elected to play it safe and do a clean install and ran the utility
program and everything is hunky dory now.
> >  
> > 1. I agree it's stalled. Cacel it if possible and restart. I hope yuo
backed up your data.
> > 2,. if machine restarts and you didn't backup - do it now.
> > 3. while waiting check out completely Acers site in general and your model
in particular for instructions.
> > 4. do an clean install if at all possible if you have a good data backup.
> >  
> > Bon Chance 
> >
> > Michael A. Carr CPA
> > email : michaelcarrcpa@ ...
> >
> > --- On Mon, 11/9/09, Michael Carr <michaelcarrcpa@ ...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Michael Carr <michaelcarrcpa@ ...>
> > Subject: Re: [Simply Computers] A timely update
> > To: simplycomputers2@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 9:18 AM
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> > ger- my bad - you clearly stated upgrade
> >
> > Michael A. Carr CPA
> > email : michaelcarrcpa@ yahoo.com
> >
> > --- On Mon, 11/9/09, Michael Carr <michaelcarrcpa@ yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Michael Carr <michaelcarrcpa@ yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Simply Computers] A timely update
> > To: simplycomputers2@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 9:09 AM
> >
> >  
> >
> > are you doing a clean install or an update?
> >
> > Michael A. Carr CPA
> > email : michaelcarrcpa@ yahoo.com
> >
> > --- On Sun, 11/8/09, Jerry Gmail <jhnidy@gmail. com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Jerry Gmail <jhnidy@gmail. com>
> > Subject: [Simply Computers] A timely update
> > To: simplycomputers2@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 8:43 PM
> >
> >  
> >
> > I bought an Acer desktop about a month ago with vista.
> > Part of the deal was that it would upgrade to win7.
> >
> > The upgrade disks came a couple of days ago.
> >
> > I started the upgrade about 25 HOURS ago.
> > The machine says it is collecting files and settings.
> > It says it is 88 percent done but it has been at 88 for 4 hours.
> >
> > As anybody else seen this?
> > I don't see anything I can do - if I turn off the machine I bet it won't
> > boot up in vista.
> >
> > Next time I will just wait and buy a win7 machine.
> >
> > Google Jer
> > Woodhaven, Mi
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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This can happen whenever the system is compromised by spyware or malware. The
same thing happens when trying to install updates or any of the Windows hotfix
files and/or service packs.

IMO your option at this stage is to do a system recovery to the original Vista
and then install the Win7 upgrade.
Hopefully you've heeded the warnings and you have made backups of your personal
stuff - the stuff that one can lose on just such an occasion as this one.

You might also run the decrappifier prior to upgrading to 7, and again after the
upgrade:
"PC Decrappifier how-to"
(http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/6086/remove-garbage-software-from-your-new-or-ol\
d-computer/) or http://bit.ly/5S9Ul

--- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, "Jerry Gmail" <jhnidy@...> wrote:
>
> I bought an Acer desktop about a month ago with vista.
> Part of the deal was that it would upgrade to win7.
>
> The upgrade disks came a couple of days ago.
>
> I started the upgrade about 25 HOURS ago.
> The machine says it is collecting files and settings.
> It says it is 88 percent done but it has been at 88 for 4 hours.
>
> As anybody else seen this?
> I don't see anything I can do - if I turn off the machine I bet it won't
> boot up in vista.
>
> Next time I will just wait and buy a win7 machine.
>
> Google Jer
> Woodhaven, Mi
>

This list should help:
"What are server names for popular e-mail providers"
(http://developer.t-mobile.com/loadKbaseEntry.do?solutionId=1156)

--- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, rickglaz4742435 <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> I was hoping you looked at Gmail for the Thunderbird settings.
> Here they are for the archives, other members, or in case you still
> have the program installed:
> <http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=38343>
> This one has pictures:
> <http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=86399>
>
> Rick Glazier
>
> --- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, waltmatheus <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > Since this is my first experience with thunderbird I dont know enough about
this portable version but I think outgoing mail needs authentication and Im not
trying to send Im trying to receive and I dont think authentication has anything
to do with receiving. I am going to give up on this because I dont want to spend
a lot of time trying to get something to work that I thought would work as it
is.
> >
> > --- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, rickglaz4742435 <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > You do not list that you are using "authenticated" below.
> > > I listed that in my first reply as one of my settings that works
> > > perfectly for me).
> > > Generally speaking, if that is set wrong,
> > > (backwards one way or the other),  (or anything else wrong),
> > > people will have the type of problem you are experiencing.
> > >
> > > Remember also that sending and receiving are totally different.
> > > Some places require you to "use one" before the other, but that is
> > > a requirement fading in popularity at the ISPs or hosts.
> > > I can't remember that being an issue anyplace I go recently.
> > >
> > > I've used Gmail for years, and for several years have only exported and
imported the settings from computer to computer. By that I am
> > > trying to say they do NOT seem to change them at all from year to year.
> > >
> > > Disclaimer: I don't use Thunderbird, but all the settings should be the
same as the ones used in OE. (Or Windows Mail, Or Windows Live Mail, etc...) The
servers don't really care what e-mail program you are using.
> > >
> > > Rick Glazier
> > >
> > > --- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, waltmatheus <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am using the correct user name(******@...) password and
settings(pop.gmail.com - 995 - ssl) which are the same as those that work in OE
but do not work in the thunderbird portable account where I get that not
accepted notice. I have removed the account then reset it again more than once
and still get that message. I dont know what to try to change that.
> > > >
> > > > --- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, "John E. Clinard"
<johneclinard@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > It may be that the password you are providing is correct, but your
user name on the Tbird account isn't correct. Go to Tools>Account Settings and
click the 'server settings' for your Gmail account.  The 'User Name' should
agree with the login name you use at Gmail.  HTH.
> > > > >
> > > > > John
> > > > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >   From: johneclinard@
> > > > >   To: john.clinard@
> > > > >   Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 5:38 PM
> > > > >   Subject: Fwd: [Simply Computers] Thunderbird portable
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >   -----Original Message-----
> > > > >   From: waltmatheus <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > >   To: simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com
> > > > >   Sent: Fri, Nov 6, 2009 9:12 am
> > > > >   Subject: [Simply Computers] Thunderbird portable
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >   This is my first experience with Thunderbird. I tried to set a gmail
account in Thunderbird portable which is on a usb thumb drive and although I put
in my correct gmail address and password I repeatedly get this message: "Sending
of password did not succeed. Mail server pop.gmail.com responded: Username and
password not accepted." Using OE on my hard drive I am able to get messages.

yes -how true - but my main point about the upgrade disks is that I am not sure
you can depend on the manufacturer to add onto the disk anything else you mike
require. Unlike recovery disks which include the new drivers.
 
While the disks may be keyed to a bios chip ( or sumthin' else) they usually
don't add any update functionality for driver and vendor specific add on's. 

Michael A. Carr CPA
email : michaelcarrcpa@...

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, rickglaz4742435 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


From: rickglaz4742435 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Simply Computers] A timely update
To: simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 1:55 PM


 



The only thing I know about this "for sure" is we will never know
anything "for sure" without seeing each manufacturers disks
individually and doing a forensic examination of them.
(I don't plan on doing that BTW, <grin>)

It is mind boggling how much effort they put into trying to prevent
casual copying of the OS (to multiple computers).

This is the same conversation we get into about the Win-OS license
types in general. It is boring and confusing and goes nowhere.

Rick Glazier

--- In simplycomputers2@ yahoogroups. com, Michael Carr <michaelcarrcpa@ ...>
wrote:
>
> Ricks advice is good.
>  
> However , and this may not be applicable with OEM software but since probably
most of them are outsourcing fullfillment my  guess is they are more generic
than we think.
>  
> I tried a retail upgrade install from a full copy of MS WIN & Ultimate. I
elected an inplace installation. I was in a rush and did not check the vendors
site ( Toshiba) where they thay had model specific upgrade instructions which
included a program to run after a clean intall or a seperate on for a upgrade
install.
>  
> I didn't install it and had funky stuff going on with video,
>  
> I elected to play it safe and do a clean install and ran the utility
program and everything is hunky dory now.
>  
> 1. I agree it's stalled. Cacel it if possible and restart. I hope yuo
backed up your data.
> 2,. if machine restarts and you didn't backup - do it now.
> 3. while waiting check out completely Acers site in general and your model in
particular for instructions.
> 4. do an clean install if at all possible if you have a good data backup.
>  
> Bon Chance 
>
> Michael A. Carr CPA
> email : michaelcarrcpa@ ...
>
> --- On Mon, 11/9/09, Michael Carr <michaelcarrcpa@ ...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Michael Carr <michaelcarrcpa@ ...>
> Subject: Re: [Simply Computers] A timely update
> To: simplycomputers2@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 9:18 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> ger- my bad - you clearly stated upgrade
>
> Michael A. Carr CPA
> email : michaelcarrcpa@ yahoo.com
>
> --- On Mon, 11/9/09, Michael Carr <michaelcarrcpa@ yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> From: Michael Carr <michaelcarrcpa@ yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Simply Computers] A timely update
> To: simplycomputers2@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 9:09 AM
>
>  
>
> are you doing a clean install or an update?
>
> Michael A. Carr CPA
> email : michaelcarrcpa@ yahoo.com
>
> --- On Sun, 11/8/09, Jerry Gmail <jhnidy@gmail. com> wrote:
>
> From: Jerry Gmail <jhnidy@gmail. com>
> Subject: [Simply Computers] A timely update
> To: simplycomputers2@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 8:43 PM
>
>  
>
> I bought an Acer desktop about a month ago with vista.
> Part of the deal was that it would upgrade to win7.
>
> The upgrade disks came a couple of days ago.
>
> I started the upgrade about 25 HOURS ago.
> The machine says it is collecting files and settings.
> It says it is 88 percent done but it has been at 88 for 4 hours.
>
> As anybody else seen this?
> I don't see anything I can do - if I turn off the machine I bet it won't
> boot up in vista.
>
> Next time I will just wait and buy a win7 machine.
>
> Google Jer
> Woodhaven, Mi
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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The only thing I know about this "for sure" is we will never know
anything "for sure" without seeing each manufacturers disks
individually and doing a forensic examination of them.
(I don't plan on doing that BTW, <grin>)

It is mind boggling how much effort they put into trying to prevent
casual copying of the OS (to multiple computers).

This is the same conversation we get into about the Win-OS license
types in general. It is boring and confusing and goes nowhere.

Rick Glazier


--- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, Michael Carr <michaelcarrcpa@...>
wrote:
>
> Ricks advice is good.
>  
> However , and this may not be applicable with OEM software but since probably
most of them are outsourcing fullfillment my  guess is they are more generic
than we think.
>  
> I tried a retail upgrade install from a full copy of MS WIN & Ultimate. I
elected an inplace installation. I was in a rush and did not check the vendors
site ( Toshiba) where they thay had model specific upgrade instructions which
included a program to run after a clean intall or a seperate on for a upgrade
install.
>  
> I didn't install it and had funky stuff going on with video,
>  
> I elected to play it safe and do a clean install and ran the utility program
and everything is hunky dory now.
>  
> 1. I agree it's stalled. Cacel it if possible and restart. I hope yuo backed
up your data.
> 2,. if machine restarts and you didn't backup - do it now.
> 3. while waiting check out completely Acers site in general and your model in
particular for instructions.
> 4. do an clean install if at all possible if you have a good data backup.
>  
> Bon Chance 
>
> Michael A. Carr CPA
> email : michaelcarrcpa@...
>
> --- On Mon, 11/9/09, Michael Carr <michaelcarrcpa@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Michael Carr <michaelcarrcpa@...>
> Subject: Re: [Simply Computers] A timely update
> To: simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 9:18 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> ger- my bad - you clearly stated upgrade
>
> Michael A. Carr CPA
> email : michaelcarrcpa@ yahoo.com
>
> --- On Mon, 11/9/09, Michael Carr <michaelcarrcpa@ yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> From: Michael Carr <michaelcarrcpa@ yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Simply Computers] A timely update
> To: simplycomputers2@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 9:09 AM
>
>  
>
> are you doing a clean install or an update?
>
> Michael A. Carr CPA
> email : michaelcarrcpa@ yahoo.com
>
> --- On Sun, 11/8/09, Jerry Gmail <jhnidy@gmail. com> wrote:
>
> From: Jerry Gmail <jhnidy@gmail. com>
> Subject: [Simply Computers] A timely update
> To: simplycomputers2@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 8:43 PM
>
>  
>
> I bought an Acer desktop about a month ago with vista.
> Part of the deal was that it would upgrade to win7.
>
> The upgrade disks came a couple of days ago.
>
> I started the upgrade about 25 HOURS ago.
> The machine says it is collecting files and settings.
> It says it is 88 percent done but it has been at 88 for 4 hours.
>
> As anybody else seen this?
> I don't see anything I can do - if I turn off the machine I bet it won't
> boot up in vista.
>
> Next time I will just wait and buy a win7 machine.
>
> Google Jer
> Woodhaven, Mi
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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I was hoping you looked at Gmail for the Thunderbird settings.
Here they are for the archives, other members, or in case you still
have the program installed:
<http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=38343>
This one has pictures:
<http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=86399>

Rick Glazier

--- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, waltmatheus <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Since this is my first experience with thunderbird I dont know enough about
this portable version but I think outgoing mail needs authentication and Im not
trying to send Im trying to receive and I dont think authentication has anything
to do with receiving. I am going to give up on this because I dont want to spend
a lot of time trying to get something to work that I thought would work as it
is.
>
> --- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, rickglaz4742435 <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > You do not list that you are using "authenticated" below.
> > I listed that in my first reply as one of my settings that works
> > perfectly for me).
> > Generally speaking, if that is set wrong,
> > (backwards one way or the other),  (or anything else wrong),
> > people will have the type of problem you are experiencing.
> >
> > Remember also that sending and receiving are totally different.
> > Some places require you to "use one" before the other, but that is
> > a requirement fading in popularity at the ISPs or hosts.
> > I can't remember that being an issue anyplace I go recently.
> >
> > I've used Gmail for years, and for several years have only exported and
imported the settings from computer to computer. By that I am
> > trying to say they do NOT seem to change them at all from year to year.
> >
> > Disclaimer: I don't use Thunderbird, but all the settings should be the same
as the ones used in OE. (Or Windows Mail, Or Windows Live Mail, etc...) The
servers don't really care what e-mail program you are using.
> >
> > Rick Glazier
> >
> > --- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, waltmatheus <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I am using the correct user name(******@...) password and
settings(pop.gmail.com - 995 - ssl) which are the same as those that work in OE
but do not work in the thunderbird portable account where I get that not
accepted notice. I have removed the account then reset it again more than once
and still get that message. I dont know what to try to change that.
> > >
> > > --- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, "John E. Clinard" <johneclinard@>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It may be that the password you are providing is correct, but your user
name on the Tbird account isn't correct. Go to Tools>Account Settings and click
the 'server settings' for your Gmail account.  The 'User Name' should agree with
the login name you use at Gmail.  HTH.
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > > >   From: johneclinard@
> > > >   To: john.clinard@
> > > >   Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 5:38 PM
> > > >   Subject: Fwd: [Simply Computers] Thunderbird portable
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   -----Original Message-----
> > > >   From: waltmatheus <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> > > >   To: simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com
> > > >   Sent: Fri, Nov 6, 2009 9:12 am
> > > >   Subject: [Simply Computers] Thunderbird portable
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   This is my first experience with Thunderbird. I tried to set a gmail
account in Thunderbird portable which is on a usb thumb drive and although I put
in my correct gmail address and password I repeatedly get this message: "Sending
of password did not succeed. Mail server pop.gmail.com responded: Username and
password not accepted." Using OE on my hard drive I am able to get messages.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Since this is my first experience with thunderbird I dont know enough about this
portable version but I think outgoing mail needs authentication and Im not
trying to send Im trying to receive and I dont think authentication has anything
to do with receiving. I am going to give up on this because I dont want to spend
a lot of time trying to get something to work that I thought would work as it
is.

--- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, rickglaz4742435 <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> You do not list that you are using "authenticated" below.
> I listed that in my first reply as one of my settings that works
> perfectly for me).
> Generally speaking, if that is set wrong,
> (backwards one way or the other),  (or anything else wrong),
> people will have the type of problem you are experiencing.
>
> Remember also that sending and receiving are totally different.
> Some places require you to "use one" before the other, but that is
> a requirement fading in popularity at the ISPs or hosts.
> I can't remember that being an issue anyplace I go recently.
>
> I've used Gmail for years, and for several years have only exported and
imported the settings from computer to computer. By that I am
> trying to say they do NOT seem to change them at all from year to year.
>
> Disclaimer: I don't use Thunderbird, but all the settings should be the same
as the ones used in OE. (Or Windows Mail, Or Windows Live Mail, etc...) The
servers don't really care what e-mail program you are using.
>
> Rick Glazier
>
> --- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, waltmatheus <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > I am using the correct user name(******@...) password and
settings(pop.gmail.com - 995 - ssl) which are the same as those that work in OE
but do not work in the thunderbird portable account where I get that not
accepted notice. I have removed the account then reset it again more than once
and still get that message. I dont know what to try to change that.
> >
> > --- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, "John E. Clinard" <johneclinard@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > It may be that the password you are providing is correct, but your user
name on the Tbird account isn't correct. Go to Tools>Account Settings and click
the 'server settings' for your Gmail account.  The 'User Name' should agree with
the login name you use at Gmail.  HTH.
> > >
> > > John
> > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > >   From: johneclinard@
> > >   To: john.clinard@
> > >   Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 5:38 PM
> > >   Subject: Fwd: [Simply Computers] Thunderbird portable
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   -----Original Message-----
> > >   From: waltmatheus <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> > >   To: simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com
> > >   Sent: Fri, Nov 6, 2009 9:12 am
> > >   Subject: [Simply Computers] Thunderbird portable
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   This is my first experience with Thunderbird. I tried to set a gmail
account in Thunderbird portable which is on a usb thumb drive and although I put
in my correct gmail address and password I repeatedly get this message: "Sending
of password did not succeed. Mail server pop.gmail.com responded: Username and
password not accepted." Using OE on my hard drive I am able to get messages.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>

Hi Rick,

always using .mp3 files.

Maybe I could explain, my friend is having a Christmas Party which is
mainly for Linedancers. She will be using my laptop and itunes with a
preselected playlist of approx 80 songs.

Each track is for one linedance, she will be on the floor using her radio
microphone and will need approx 10secs after each track to "call in" the
next  track without moving off the dancefloor.

So basically she just wants to press play on the laptop and be in another
location when the music is playing through until the end.

Hoping this will help you.

thanks,
Brian


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Ricks advice is good.
 
However , and this may not be applicable with OEM software but since probably
most of them are outsourcing fullfillment my  guess is they are more generic
than we think.
 
I tried a retail upgrade install from a full copy of MS WIN & Ultimate. I
elected an inplace installation. I was in a rush and did not check the vendors
site ( Toshiba) where they thay had model specific upgrade instructions which
included a program to run after a clean intall or a seperate on for a upgrade
install.
 
I didn't install it and had funky stuff going on with video,
 
I elected to play it safe and do a clean install and ran the utility program
and everything is hunky dory now.
 
1. I agree it's stalled. Cacel it if possible and restart. I hope yuo backed
up your data.
2,. if machine restarts and you didn't backup - do it now.
3. while waiting check out completely Acers site in general and your model in
particular for instructions.
4. do an clean install if at all possible if you have a good data backup.
 
Bon Chance 

Michael A. Carr CPA
email : michaelcarrcpa@...

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, Michael Carr <michaelcarrcpa@...> wrote:


From: Michael Carr <michaelcarrcpa@...>
Subject: Re: [Simply Computers] A timely update
To: simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 9:18 AM


 



ger- my bad - you clearly stated upgrade

Michael A. Carr CPA
email : michaelcarrcpa@ yahoo.com

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, Michael Carr <michaelcarrcpa@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Michael Carr <michaelcarrcpa@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Simply Computers] A timely update
To: simplycomputers2@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 9:09 AM

 

are you doing a clean install or an update?

Michael A. Carr CPA
email : michaelcarrcpa@ yahoo.com

--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Jerry Gmail <jhnidy@gmail. com> wrote:

From: Jerry Gmail <jhnidy@gmail. com>
Subject: [Simply Computers] A timely update
To: simplycomputers2@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 8:43 PM

 

I bought an Acer desktop about a month ago with vista.
Part of the deal was that it would upgrade to win7.

The upgrade disks came a couple of days ago.

I started the upgrade about 25 HOURS ago.
The machine says it is collecting files and settings.
It says it is 88 percent done but it has been at 88 for 4 hours.

As anybody else seen this?
I don't see anything I can do - if I turn off the machine I bet it won't
boot up in vista.

Next time I will just wait and buy a win7 machine.

Google Jer
Woodhaven, Mi

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"Silent song" was just an example name.
You need to record or edit something that is a "silent" file.
Here is a 60 second silent WAV file for D/L I found with Google.
<http://www.mrichter.com/cdr/files/silence.zip>
That site is "OK", he has been around "forever"... (15 0r 20 years.)

You could use Windows (audio) Recorder to record a file of any
length, or any "correct" program you happen to have to record/edit
any file you can get, or make one yourself..

Audio Grabber is a good choice. Set it up for recording, and then record
"nothing" (or at a VERY low input setting) for 10 seconds.
<http://www.audiograbber.com-us.net/> Then convert it to MP3
if needed.  There are lots of free programs for changing files
from one type of audio to another.

There are a thousand ways to do this. It depends on what you have
to work with.

What type of files (extension type) are you using now?

Rick Glazier


--- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, Fbrianfo@... wrote:
>
> thanks Rick, but how do I make a "Silent" song?
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

ger- my bad - you clearly stated upgrade

Michael A. Carr CPA
email : michaelcarrcpa@...

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, Michael Carr <michaelcarrcpa@...> wrote:


From: Michael Carr <michaelcarrcpa@...>
Subject: Re: [Simply Computers] A timely update
To: simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 9:09 AM


 



are you doing a clean install or an update?

Michael A. Carr CPA
email : michaelcarrcpa@ yahoo.com

--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Jerry Gmail <jhnidy@gmail. com> wrote:

From: Jerry Gmail <jhnidy@gmail. com>
Subject: [Simply Computers] A timely update
To: simplycomputers2@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 8:43 PM

 

I bought an Acer desktop about a month ago with vista.
Part of the deal was that it would upgrade to win7.

The upgrade disks came a couple of days ago.

I started the upgrade about 25 HOURS ago.
The machine says it is collecting files and settings.
It says it is 88 percent done but it has been at 88 for 4 hours.

As anybody else seen this?
I don't see anything I can do - if I turn off the machine I bet it won't
boot up in vista.

Next time I will just wait and buy a win7 machine.

Google Jer
Woodhaven, Mi

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are you doing a clean install or an update?

Michael A. Carr CPA
email : michaelcarrcpa@...

--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Jerry Gmail <jhnidy@...> wrote:


From: Jerry Gmail <jhnidy@...>
Subject: [Simply Computers] A timely update
To: simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 8:43 PM


 



I bought an Acer desktop about a month ago with vista.
Part of the deal was that it would upgrade to win7.

The upgrade disks came a couple of days ago.

I started the upgrade about 25 HOURS ago.
The machine says it is collecting files and settings.
It says it is 88 percent done but it has been at 88 for 4 hours.

As anybody else seen this?
I don't see anything I can do - if I turn off the machine I bet it won't
boot up in vista.

Next time I will just wait and buy a win7 machine.

Google Jer
Woodhaven, Mi











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thanks Rick, but how do I make a "Silent" song?


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I'm not familiar with Acer in general, or the type of upgrade disks
they ship to the RECENT Vista purchasers/users for the free upgrades.
Being a large "OEM Channel" type manufacturer, I'm pretty certain
they will have some tricks up their sleeves to prevent using the disk on a
different computer. (This would be required in their agreements
with MS.) We will assume you are using this on the correct, proper computer.
So enough with the general "legal" disclaimers... (boring...)

Having said that, If it is a regular "in-place" upgrade that is supposed to
retain all your files, settings AND INSTALLED PROGRAMS,
I have never seen that take more than 4 hours.

HP is a little slower getting their "free upgrade to Win7" DVDs
out, so I have not used an OEM Channel manufacturers "solution" for
this exact type of upgrade, (yet)...

I have done in-place upgrades on an HP Laptop running
Vista-Home-Prem-OEM, but for THAT upgrade I used a
RETAIL(FPP) FULL version Win7 Ultimate DVD and as an
"in-place upgrade", (NOT a clean install.)
Going through and keeping everything old in the "in-place" upgrade
does take up to 8 times as long.

A "clean install" takes about 20-30 minutes on a state of the art
new desktop machine. (I've actually done clean installs too.)

IMHO, 25 hours (or 28 by now?) is way too long.
I would have to "guess" it is choking on something.
I'd call Acer and see what they say. It was logging what it was
doing at the time it choked.

The machine should still be new enough to be under warranty, or even
under support for the upgrade, but I've also seen warnings
(somewhere???) that the disks might come too late to be covered.
(I forget what OEM weasel/jackasses said that...)

Let us know what is happening. Don't turn the machine off until you
talk to Acer.
The good news is that the old OS might be hosed (maybe not, it should
roll back), but your data will be on the HD (somewhere) unless
some VERY traumatic event (like a hardware failure) happened to it.

Don't start a "factory restore" or any type of operation that would
include a format, etc...

It the very least, a boot CD and a portable HD will get the data back
with a 99.9% chance of success, (unless the HD failed, like I said...)

Good luck, It is not as bad as it seems... (Easy for me to say...)

Rick Glazier

--- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, "Jerry Gmail" <jhnidy@...> wrote:
>
> I bought an Acer desktop about a month ago with vista.
> Part of the deal was that it would upgrade to win7.
>
> The upgrade disks came a couple of days ago.
>
> I started the upgrade about 25 HOURS ago.
> The machine says it is collecting files and settings.
> It says it is 88 percent done but it has been at 88 for 4 hours.
>
> As anybody else seen this?
> I don't see anything I can do - if I turn off the machine I bet it won't
> boot up in vista.
>
> Next time I will just wait and buy a win7 machine.
>
> Google Jer
> Woodhaven, Mi
>

You do not list that you are using "authenticated" below.
I listed that in my first reply as one of my settings that works
perfectly for me).
Generally speaking, if that is set wrong,
(backwards one way or the other),  (or anything else wrong),
people will have the type of problem you are experiencing.

Remember also that sending and receiving are totally different.
Some places require you to "use one" before the other, but that is
a requirement fading in popularity at the ISPs or hosts.
I can't remember that being an issue anyplace I go recently.

I've used Gmail for years, and for several years have only exported and imported
the settings from computer to computer. By that I am
trying to say they do NOT seem to change them at all from year to year.

Disclaimer: I don't use Thunderbird, but all the settings should be the same as
the ones used in OE. (Or Windows Mail, Or Windows Live Mail, etc...) The servers
don't really care what e-mail program you are using.

Rick Glazier

--- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, waltmatheus <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> I am using the correct user name(******@...) password and
settings(pop.gmail.com - 995 - ssl) which are the same as those that work in OE
but do not work in the thunderbird portable account where I get that not
accepted notice. I have removed the account then reset it again more than once
and still get that message. I dont know what to try to change that.
>
> --- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, "John E. Clinard" <johneclinard@>
wrote:
> >
> > It may be that the password you are providing is correct, but your user name
on the Tbird account isn't correct. Go to Tools>Account Settings and click the
'server settings' for your Gmail account.  The 'User Name' should agree with the
login name you use at Gmail.  HTH.
> >
> > John
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: johneclinard@
> >   To: john.clinard@
> >   Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 5:38 PM
> >   Subject: Fwd: [Simply Computers] Thunderbird portable
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   -----Original Message-----
> >   From: waltmatheus <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> >   To: simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com
> >   Sent: Fri, Nov 6, 2009 9:12 am
> >   Subject: [Simply Computers] Thunderbird portable
> >
> >
> >
> >   This is my first experience with Thunderbird. I tried to set a gmail
account in Thunderbird portable which is on a usb thumb drive and although I put
in my correct gmail address and password I repeatedly get this message: "Sending
of password did not succeed. Mail server pop.gmail.com responded: Username and
password not accepted." Using OE on my hard drive I am able to get messages.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Maybe someone will say that is "in the settings", but I make a
10 second silent song (I use a smaller one) and put it in the
playlist between each of the others.

The silent song must actually be in the file location that is used
by the playlist.

Rick Glazier

--- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, Fbrianfo@... wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I would like to know if it is possible to increase the "gap" between songs
> on a selected playlist, ideally I would like a gap of about 10 secs between
> the  end of one and the start of another.
>
> I use both iTunes ( v 7.7.1.11 ) and Windows Media Player.
>
>
> many thanks,
>
> Brian
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hi,

I would like to know if it is possible to increase the "gap" between songs
on a selected playlist, ideally I would like a gap of about 10 secs between
the  end of one and the start of another.

I use both iTunes ( v 7.7.1.11 ) and Windows Media Player.


many thanks,

Brian


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I am using the correct user name(******@...) password and
settings(pop.gmail.com - 995 - ssl) which are the same as those that work in OE
but do not work in the thunderbird portable account where I get that not
accepted notice. I have removed the account then reset it again more than once
and still get that message. I dont know what to try to change that.

--- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, "John E. Clinard" <johneclinard@...>
wrote:
>
> It may be that the password you are providing is correct, but your user name
on the Tbird account isn't correct. Go to Tools>Account Settings and click the
'server settings' for your Gmail account.  The 'User Name' should agree with the
login name you use at Gmail.  HTH.
>
> John
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: johneclinard@...
>   To: john.clinard@...
>   Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 5:38 PM
>   Subject: Fwd: [Simply Computers] Thunderbird portable
>
>
>
>
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: waltmatheus <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
>   To: simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Fri, Nov 6, 2009 9:12 am
>   Subject: [Simply Computers] Thunderbird portable
>
>
>
>   This is my first experience with Thunderbird. I tried to set a gmail account
in Thunderbird portable which is on a usb thumb drive and although I put in my
correct gmail address and password I repeatedly get this message: "Sending of
password did not succeed. Mail server pop.gmail.com responded: Username and
password not accepted." Using OE on my hard drive I am able to get messages.
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I bought an Acer desktop about a month ago with vista.
Part of the deal was that it would upgrade to win7.

The upgrade disks came a couple of days ago.

I started the upgrade about 25 HOURS ago.
The machine says it is collecting files and settings.
It says it is 88 percent done but it has been at 88 for 4 hours.

As anybody else seen this?
I don't see anything I can do - if I turn off the machine I bet it won't
boot up in vista.

Next time I will just wait and buy a win7 machine.

Google Jer
Woodhaven, Mi

I recently added 2gb of pc 3200 ddr2 400 RAM to my pc and now many sites I used
to visit will no longer load..does anyone know why it would do that?