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i bought one simputer. i am very happy.

Subsequently i bought some cinese product...an eval board for a price aroud nine
K. I gt just no help anywhere what soever...

One need not spend exotic boxes. One solution could be use some standard box
products  available in the market but nt special toooling....

A good support for newer simputer without specially designed enclosure is both a
possibility and feasible to do.

Support qualityshould be good. newer products should always be in the market
with good support...

Nat
--- On Thu, 10/23/08, Khan Md Ashraf <kmashr@...> wrote:
From: Khan Md Ashraf <kmashr@...>
Subject: [simputer] Re: Buy a simputer
To: simputer@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 11:09 PM











             --- In simputer@yahoogroup s.com, "afolly_mil2" <afolly_mil2@ ...>
wrote:

>

> Hi Ashraf,

>

> Do the math...

>

> How many would you need to sell every month, and at what profit, to

> break even?



   If you delve deep into this group you would discover that money

never played much of a role in the Simputer. None came forward to take

it up as a shining example of Indian achievement. The Simputer was to

the nascent Indian IT hardware business something like the TATA's

'Nano' is supposed to be for the Indian automotive industry. But

unfortunately the Simputer did not have a TATA behind it. Neither was

the Govt. of India behind it. As some of the people in this group had

held out for. That put paid to the numbers and profit angle of it.



I am sure the Simputer or its successor can make a

> comeback if people want it.  But it should not be a few hundred

> people.  It needs thousands per month to support the infrastructure

> to market and maintain it.



   Not many left who remember the Simputer. About the 'janatha' wanting

it they are quite happy with their 'ipods' and Chinese 'mobiles. Again

if you explore this group you will find very few who seriously

recommended 'marketing' it.



> If you and others really feel there is sufficient need for such a

> device, let's define what we want and find someone to build it!



   As I stated flogging a dead horse ain't gonna make it spring to life

with new vigour. It the wide world of Information Technology if you

miss the bus there ain't no way of getting back on the bus you missed.



> Regards,

>

> Ahmad

>

   Ashraf



>

> --- In simputer@yahoogroup s.com, "Khan Md Ashraf" <kmashr@> wrote:

> >

> > I think a lot of people belonging to this group are always hoping

> that

> > the simputer will make a major comeback.

> > What it's creators and marketers never caught on to or cared about

> was

> > that it was a dream come true for a lot of Indians like me.

> > But as is wont in this country the best can simply fail because the

> > people behind it gave up too soon and too easily.

> > They were happy to ape what came from the west better still not even

> > build on our ability to be as good as if not better than the west.

> > To me one shining example of it is our ISRO, they never gave up.

> Today

> > they have proved that they are as capable if not better than the

> rest

> > of the world.

> >

> > The reason the Simputer turned out to be a dead duck was because the

> > all too easy 'we give up' attitude sprung up to kill it.

> > I don't care if it sold or not outside of our borders, it was meant

> > for India and Indians and without a doubt would have improved with

> > time. I don't care what the west or anybody else said about it too.

> >

> > We also should realise that most Indians really care nothing much

> for

> > India as can be seen from the goings on in Maharashtra. In less that

> > 100 years we are likely to revert back to the hodge podge of states

> > and fiefs we were before the British dragged together a country out

> of

> >  all of them called India

> >

> > Ashraf

> > --- In simputer@yahoogroup s.com, sridhar G <sosreeus@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Is some one from Simputer hearing about this? I too wonder why don

> > you have a proper marketing channel to deal this? After all even

> > flowers/Agarbathis are selling online. We claim ourself as too techy

> > not even providing online payment access. What is that really

> stoping?

> > >

> > > Satish Jha <satish.jha@ > wrote:          Anura,

> > >

> > > What is it about a device that does not have even a few thousand

> > pieces in

> > > production in 8 years that keeps people coming back to it and yet

> > does not

> > > reflect in anything else like growing sales (did they really

> > start?).. In

> > > the world of PCs and its substitutes, if a product does not hit a

> > million in

> > > year 1, its considered dead by the market.. What do you think

> keeps

> > the myth

> > > of simputer alive and kicking?

> > >

> > > thanks

> > >

> > > On Jan 13, 2008 6:12 AM, Anura Shantha <nrshantha@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > > I'm Anura and I'm sri lankan.I'm interested about the

> simputer.And

> > I want

> > > > to know about it.I wish to get a simputer.If you can help to me

> to

> > get a

> > > > simputer it is great help to me . Thank you very much.

> > > >

> > > > Send instant messages to your online friends

> > http://uk.messenger .yahoo.com

> > > >

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Whatever Simputer promised and a lot more is available on OLPC for a price
that is a third of Simputer.
At least Fred has had a first hand opportunity to see it and it will be
helpful if he can post his thoughts here..



On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:15 AM, afolly_mil2 <afolly_mil2@...> wrote:

>  ,_._,___
>



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Back in 2001 when I first heard of the Simputer, I asked a question
that was never replied to by anyone with the capability of producing
Simputers. That question had to do with the open product license
scheme and why it was prejudiced against Western interests in
supporting the Simputer development.

It wasn't long before the well capitalized West began to produce so
called competitive products to the Simputer. Slowly over the years,
they simply out classed the Simputer efforts to the point that now
there are questions w\regards to the need for the Simputer.

Of course there is still a need. This planet is not connected. As a
result all to often we (humanity) resorts to violence as a policy of
interaction with people we don't know or are not regularly
communicating with. The role of the Simputer is to give more people
the ability to communicate effectively.

The mechanics of communication are widely misunderstood. When we talk,
we take for granted that the air will transmit our voice to the ears
of our audience. In the virtual visual world of computer
communications, the mouth and the ear are nodes (Much like PCs and
PDAs). All of the behind the scenes stuff that goes in forming a
thought to be spoken is equivalent to what happens in the multitudes
of computing centers at the thousands of the Internet servers
globally. Simputers, were designed to overcome the lack of
center\server density in most of the Third World.

Simputer was envisioned as a new form of end point, and it was
announced as a stand-alone device that could be shared amongst many to
assist the vast majority of people who are illiterate on this planet
communicate with each other and the literate. This was good economics,
but it took back seat to questions that now need to be addressed.

The Open Source Product License is a good idea w\the exception to
regional restrictions that inhibit Western adoption. OSPL is still a
GOOD IDEA, but just like any other artificial tax or tariff, the $100K
USD licensing price tag for licensing in the West opened the door for
competitors to take the initiative to change the basic premise. OLPC
is what you get when you let someone take your ball and play with it
in their yard.

Globally, what is needed is 'One Simputer Per Family.'

The way to get what we need is to consider how to join up with
minority interests in the West (specifically in the USA) who have both
the experience and the ambition to manufacture Simputers (and if not,
assemble them . . .); in vast quantities from parts shipped to North
America from various Simputer component manufacturing nations in the
developing world. This strategy allows the Western interests to sell
Simputer as a product that is competitive in the West and utilizes the
dynamics of a seasoned and potent information technology marketing
mechanism to promote the product throughout the West.

Who cares if they (competitors) call it a toy if it works and people
buy it because they can use it the same way as anybody in Calcuta
might? You forget that relative posperity doesn't translate to actual
affluence when all that separate people is geography. As an education
tool, the Simputer would help to unleash the energies of millions of
North Americans who are as illeterate as anyone someplace else on the
planet.

The illiterate of the West may have more disposable income than their
counterparts in the rest of the world; but that isn't significant in
light of the expense of resources available to them to lift themselves
out of poverty. We have to begin with opportunity where it exist.

Adoption of the Simputer in the West by the poor and illiterate could
assure a consistent market for the device components and drive
adoption in East and South where domestic production could be
sustained by replication of the US efforts. Another way of putting it
would be, "you must sell where people buy despite the fact that what
you are selling is so new that people have difficulty understanding
the utility and value of your proposition."

Simputer is to OLPC what bricks are to space flight. Only remotely
associated if at all. Simputer started out as a purposed initiative
for electrifying rural communications at the personal and family
levels. Where did it get off track?

ML "Mickey" Hayes
Simputer Advocate




--- In simputer@yahoogroups.com, "afolly_mil2" <afolly_mil2@...>
wrote:
>
> I wonder if there is any need for Simputers any more.  If there was,
> then wouldn't they be selling?
>
> Puzzled,
>
> Ahmad
>
>
> --- In simputer@yahoogroups.com, Soumyanath Chatterjee <souchatt@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Anupama,
> >
> > Simputers are handheld computer running on battery. So these
should
> be
> > convenient for capturing data at the point of action. More over
> these are
> > immune to power cuts.
> >
> > Frankly, now we should have a version of simputer with wireless
> > connectivity with Wifi. and choice of CDMA/GSM-GPRS.
> >
> > > > Best regards
> >
> >
> >
>
> >  Soumyanath Chatterjee
> IBM
> >
>
> >  SAP-AM-BW Consultant / Ericsson Account        . souchatt@
> >  Signum ID:
> XBMSOCH
> >
>
> >  ( Telephone :+91-33-4009 3656                  + IBM India Pvt.
> Ltd.
> >  ( Cellular :+91-98318 04223                    BCS SL*-6A-
> 075
> >                                                 X 1-7 Block
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> >                                                 Sector â€" V Salt
> Lake
> >                                                 Kolkata 700
> 091
> >
> INDIA
> >
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> >              "gemprex"
>
> >
> <anupama66@rediff
> >
> mail.com>                                                  To
> >              Sent by:
> simputer@yahoogroups.com
> >
> simputer@yahoogro                                          cc
> >
> ups.com
> >
> Subject
> >                                        [simputer] simputers
> in
> >              06/25/2008 08:59
> Chhattisgarh
> >
> PM
> >
>
> >
>
> >              Please respond
> to
> >
> simputer@yahoogro
> >
> ups.com
> >
>
> >
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
> Hi
>
> >  we are engaged in a study on " Gender Evaluation of E -Gram
> Suraj
> >  scheme of chhattisgarh , India" .The simputers are used in
> the
> >  scheme. Recently we have carried out a survey in 64
> gram
> >
> panchayatas.
>
> >  Many of the Sarpanchas(Heads of the village self governance
> unit)
> >  suggested that it would have been better if Computers would
> have
> >
> been
>
> >  provided in place of Simputers. The reasons cited include 1.
> The
> >  computers can be easily repaired at local level 2. Its easy to
> get
> >  an expert of computer at village level 3. the bigger screen
> of
> >
> computer.
>
> >
>
> >  we are not technical persons hence we would like to know from
> group
> >  the exact difference between A simputer and a computer and
> why
> >  simputers are considered to be better than computers for
> rural
> >
> setting.
>
> >
>
> >  Dr. Anupama
> Saxena
>
> >  Head, Department of Political
> Science
> >  Guru Ghasidas University, Bilaspur, Chhattisgarh,
> India
> >
> www.ggu.ac.in
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

If an effort were mounted to purchase 1MM Simputers, and have them all
shipped to the West over the period of one year, would anyone be
interested in working with the coordinators?

In fact could the producers output the schedule and provide the
support fr such a bold venture. Could terms and underwriting be
arranged? These are the questions. Who can answer them?

ML "Mickey" Hayes
Simputer Evangelist


--- In simputer@yahoogroups.com, sgadhalay@... wrote:
>
> other company are the mundu guys ...
> contact company called . Geodesic  info systems .iin bangalore --in
case you arent able to contact encore technologies.
>
> in my opinion i think the product is dead ..only idea survives
..adopted by many specially the smartphone guys ..
> regards
> Sanjay
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: javid ahmed <erjaved@...>
> Date: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 10:15 am
> Subject: Re: [simputer] Buy a simputer
> To: simputer@yahoogroups.com
>
> > ecil se knotakt karo bhai.
> >  shayad woh log banate hon.
> >  ek aur company hai. but i don;t remembert its name.
> >
> > sridhar G <sosreeus@...> wrote:
> >          Is some one from Simputer hearing about this? I too
> > wonder why don you have a proper marketing channel to deal this?
> > After all even flowers/Agarbathis are selling online. We claim
> > ourself as too techy not even providing online payment access.
What
> > is that really stoping?
> >
> > Satish Jha <satish.jha@...> wrote: Anura,
> >
> > What is it about a device that does not have even a few thousand
> > pieces in
> > production in 8 years that keeps people coming back to it and yet
> > does not
> > reflect in anything else like growing sales (did they really
> > start?).. In
> > the world of PCs and its substitutes, if a product does not hit a
> > million in
> > year 1, its considered dead by the market.. What do you think
keeps
> > the myth
> > of simputer alive and kicking?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > On Jan 13, 2008 6:12 AM, Anura Shantha <nrshantha@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > > I'm Anura and I'm sri lankan.I'm interested about the
> > simputer.And I want
> > > to know about it.I wish to get a simputer.If you can help to me
> > to get a
> > > simputer it is great help to me . Thank you very much.
> > >
> > > Send instant messages to your online friends
> > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com>
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > _________________________________
> > http://www.linkedin.com/myprofile?trk=tab_pro
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Never miss a thing.   Make Yahoo your homepage.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
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>
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>
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Hi
 
i wish to know what are the latest in Simputer?
 
Simputer was a great product some four years ago.
 
I am not sure if there is any new platform (Understand StrongArm 1110 based
discontinued.
 
It was well supported. Problem is  they do not publicize it...
 
It should be reacheable with an internet search..............
If you want to take this for an eval board,  the price is utterly low for its
content.
 
They have great staff at Bangalore who supported customers with a smile.
 
The product placement is Ameturish..... A good product without proper placement
and
publicity that it deserved.
 
A unique eval Board neatly pachaged and sold for a SONG  would be appropriate
market slogan.
 
 
Nataraj

--- On Fri, 9/26/08, afolly_mil2 <afolly_mil2@...> wrote:

From: afolly_mil2 <afolly_mil2@...>
Subject: [simputer] Re: simputers in Chhattisgarh
To: simputer@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 6:29 PM






I wonder if there is any need for Simputers any more. If there was,
then wouldn't they be selling?

Puzzled,

Ahmad

--- In simputer@yahoogroup s.com, Soumyanath Chatterjee <souchatt@.. .>
wrote:
>
> Hi Anupama,
>
> Simputers are handheld computer running on battery. So these should
be
> convenient for capturing data at the point of action. More over
these are
> immune to power cuts.
>
> Frankly, now we should have a version of simputer with wireless
> connectivity with Wifi. and choice of CDMA/GSM-GPRS.
>
>
> Best regards
>
>
>

> Soumyanath Chatterjee
IBM
>

> SAP-AM-BW Consultant / Ericsson Account . souchatt@...
> Signum ID:
XBMSOCH
>

> ( Telephone :+91-33-4009 3656 + IBM India Pvt.
Ltd.
> ( Cellular :+91-98318 04223 BCS SL*-6A-
075
> X 1-7 Block
EP/GP
> Sector â¤" V Salt
Lake
> Kolkata 700
091
>
INDIA
>

>
>
>
>
>
>

> "gemprex"

>
<anupama66@rediff
>
mail.com> To
> Sent by:
simputer@yahoogroup s.com
>
simputer@yahoogro cc
>
ups.com
>
Subject
> [simputer] simputers
in
> 06/25/2008 08:59
Chhattisgarh
>
PM
>

>

> Please respond
to
>
simputer@yahoogro
>
ups.com
>

>

>
>
>
>
>

>

>

>

>

>
Hi

> we are engaged in a study on " Gender Evaluation of E -Gram
Suraj
> scheme of chhattisgarh , India" .The simputers are used in
the
> scheme. Recently we have carried out a survey in 64
gram
>
panchayatas.

> Many of the Sarpanchas(Heads of the village self governance
unit)
> suggested that it would have been better if Computers would
have
>
been

> provided in place of Simputers. The reasons cited include 1.
The
> computers can be easily repaired at local level 2. Its easy to
get
> an expert of computer at village level 3. the bigger screen
of
>
computer.

>

> we are not technical persons hence we would like to know from
group
> the exact difference between A simputer and a computer and
why
> simputers are considered to be better than computers for
rural
>
setting.

>

> Dr. Anupama
Saxena

> Head, Department of Political
Science
> Guru Ghasidas University, Bilaspur, Chhattisgarh,
India
>
www.ggu.ac.in

>

>

>

>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>


















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

--- In simputer@yahoogroups.com, "afolly_mil2" <afolly_mil2@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Ashraf,
>
> Do the math...
>
> How many would you need to sell every month, and at what profit, to
> break even?

   If you delve deep into this group you would discover that money
never played much of a role in the Simputer. None came forward to take
it up as a shining example of Indian achievement. The Simputer was to
the nascent Indian IT hardware business something like the TATA's
'Nano' is supposed to be for the Indian automotive industry. But
unfortunately the Simputer did not have a TATA behind it. Neither was
the Govt. of India behind it. As some of the people in this group had
held out for. That put paid to the numbers and profit angle of it.

I am sure the Simputer or its successor can make a
> comeback if people want it.  But it should not be a few hundred
> people.  It needs thousands per month to support the infrastructure
> to market and maintain it.

   Not many left who remember the Simputer. About the 'janatha' wanting
it they are quite happy with their 'ipods' and Chinese 'mobiles. Again
if you explore this group you will find very few who seriously
recommended 'marketing' it.

> If you and others really feel there is sufficient need for such a
> device, let's define what we want and find someone to build it!

   As I stated flogging a dead horse ain't gonna make it spring to life
with new vigour. It the wide world of Information Technology if you
miss the bus there ain't no way of getting back on the bus you missed.

> Regards,
>
> Ahmad
>
   Ashraf

>
> --- In simputer@yahoogroups.com, "Khan Md Ashraf" <kmashr@> wrote:
> >
> > I think a lot of people belonging to this group are always hoping
> that
> > the simputer will make a major comeback.
> > What it's creators and marketers never caught on to or cared about
> was
> > that it was a dream come true for a lot of Indians like me.
> > But as is wont in this country the best can simply fail because the
> > people behind it gave up too soon and too easily.
> > They were happy to ape what came from the west better still not even
> > build on our ability to be as good as if not better than the west.
> > To me one shining example of it is our ISRO, they never gave up.
> Today
> > they have proved that they are as capable if not better than the
> rest
> > of the world.
> >
> > The reason the Simputer turned out to be a dead duck was because the
> > all too easy 'we give up' attitude sprung up to kill it.
> > I don't care if it sold or not outside of our borders, it was meant
> > for India and Indians and without a doubt would have improved with
> > time. I don't care what the west or anybody else said about it too.
> >
> > We also should realise that most Indians really care nothing much
> for
> > India as can be seen from the goings on in Maharashtra. In less that
> > 100 years we are likely to revert back to the hodge podge of states
> > and fiefs we were before the British dragged together a country out
> of
> >  all of them called India
> >
> > Ashraf
> > --- In simputer@yahoogroups.com, sridhar G <sosreeus@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Is some one from Simputer hearing about this? I too wonder why don
> > you have a proper marketing channel to deal this? After all even
> > flowers/Agarbathis are selling online. We claim ourself as too techy
> > not even providing online payment access. What is that really
> stoping?
> > >
> > > Satish Jha <satish.jha@> wrote:          Anura,
> > >
> > > What is it about a device that does not have even a few thousand
> > pieces in
> > > production in 8 years that keeps people coming back to it and yet
> > does not
> > > reflect in anything else like growing sales (did they really
> > start?).. In
> > > the world of PCs and its substitutes, if a product does not hit a
> > million in
> > > year 1, its considered dead by the market.. What do you think
> keeps
> > the myth
> > > of simputer alive and kicking?
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >
> > > On Jan 13, 2008 6:12 AM, Anura Shantha <nrshantha@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I'm Anura and I'm sri lankan.I'm interested about the
> simputer.And
> > I want
> > > > to know about it.I wish to get a simputer.If you can help to me
> to
> > get a
> > > > simputer it is great help to me . Thank you very much.
> > > >
> > > > Send instant messages to your online friends
> > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > _________________________________
> > > http://www.linkedin.com/myprofile?trk=tab_pro
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > Never miss a thing.   Make Yahoo your homepage.
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>

I bought the strongArm 1110 based Simputer some four years ago.
 
Where can I down load the tol chain suitable for that version of hardware?
 
IS there a repository of sample codes and sample applications, steps to compile
an application so that the startups can benefit from it?
 
Thanks
 
NATARAJAN
 


--- On Fri, 10/3/08, M.P. Lokanath <lokanathmp@...> wrote:

From: M.P. Lokanath <lokanathmp@...>
Subject: [simputer] Hello
To: simputer@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 12:48 AM






I wish to know the working of Simputer and how internet can be accessed

















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I wish to know the working of Simputer and how internet can be accessed

Hi Ashraf,

Do the math...

How many would you need to sell every month, and at what profit, to
break even?  I am sure the Simputer or its successor can make a
comeback if people want it.  But it should not be a few hundred
people.  It needs thousands per month to support the infrastructure
to market and maintain it.

If you and others really feel there is sufficient need for such a
device, let's define what we want and find someone to build it!

Regards,

Ahmad



--- In simputer@yahoogroups.com, "Khan Md Ashraf" <kmashr@...> wrote:
>
> I think a lot of people belonging to this group are always hoping
that
> the simputer will make a major comeback.
> What it's creators and marketers never caught on to or cared about
was
> that it was a dream come true for a lot of Indians like me.
> But as is wont in this country the best can simply fail because the
> people behind it gave up too soon and too easily.
> They were happy to ape what came from the west better still not even
> build on our ability to be as good as if not better than the west.
> To me one shining example of it is our ISRO, they never gave up.
Today
> they have proved that they are as capable if not better than the
rest
> of the world.
>
> The reason the Simputer turned out to be a dead duck was because the
> all too easy 'we give up' attitude sprung up to kill it.
> I don't care if it sold or not outside of our borders, it was meant
> for India and Indians and without a doubt would have improved with
> time. I don't care what the west or anybody else said about it too.
>
> We also should realise that most Indians really care nothing much
for
> India as can be seen from the goings on in Maharashtra. In less that
> 100 years we are likely to revert back to the hodge podge of states
> and fiefs we were before the British dragged together a country out
of
>  all of them called India
>
> Ashraf
> --- In simputer@yahoogroups.com, sridhar G <sosreeus@> wrote:
> >
> > Is some one from Simputer hearing about this? I too wonder why don
> you have a proper marketing channel to deal this? After all even
> flowers/Agarbathis are selling online. We claim ourself as too techy
> not even providing online payment access. What is that really
stoping?
> >
> > Satish Jha <satish.jha@> wrote:          Anura,
> >
> > What is it about a device that does not have even a few thousand
> pieces in
> > production in 8 years that keeps people coming back to it and yet
> does not
> > reflect in anything else like growing sales (did they really
> start?).. In
> > the world of PCs and its substitutes, if a product does not hit a
> million in
> > year 1, its considered dead by the market.. What do you think
keeps
> the myth
> > of simputer alive and kicking?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > On Jan 13, 2008 6:12 AM, Anura Shantha <nrshantha@> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > > I'm Anura and I'm sri lankan.I'm interested about the
simputer.And
> I want
> > > to know about it.I wish to get a simputer.If you can help to me
to
> get a
> > > simputer it is great help to me . Thank you very much.
> > >
> > > Send instant messages to your online friends
> http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > _________________________________
> > http://www.linkedin.com/myprofile?trk=tab_pro
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Never miss a thing.   Make Yahoo your homepage.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

I wonder if there is any need for Simputers any more.  If there was,
then wouldn't they be selling?

Puzzled,

Ahmad


--- In simputer@yahoogroups.com, Soumyanath Chatterjee <souchatt@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Anupama,
>
> Simputers are handheld computer running on battery. So these should
be
> convenient for capturing data at the point of action. More over
these are
> immune to power cuts.
>
> Frankly, now we should have a version of simputer with wireless
> connectivity with Wifi. and choice of CDMA/GSM-GPRS.
>
>
> Best regards
>
>
>

>  Soumyanath Chatterjee
IBM
>

>  SAP-AM-BW Consultant / Ericsson Account        . souchatt@...
>  Signum ID:
XBMSOCH
>

>  ( Telephone :+91-33-4009 3656                  + IBM India Pvt.
Ltd.
>  ( Cellular :+91-98318 04223                    BCS SL*-6A-
075
>                                                 X 1-7 Block
EP/GP
>                                                 Sector â€" V Salt
Lake
>                                                 Kolkata 700
091
>
INDIA
>

>
>
>
>
>
>

>              "gemprex"

>
<anupama66@rediff
>
mail.com>                                                  To
>              Sent by:
simputer@yahoogroups.com
>
simputer@yahoogro                                          cc
>
ups.com
>
Subject
>                                        [simputer] simputers
in
>              06/25/2008 08:59
Chhattisgarh
>
PM
>

>

>              Please respond
to
>
simputer@yahoogro
>
ups.com
>

>

>
>
>
>
>

>

>

>

>

>
Hi

>  we are engaged in a study on " Gender Evaluation of E -Gram
Suraj
>  scheme of chhattisgarh , India" .The simputers are used in
the
>  scheme. Recently we have carried out a survey in 64
gram
>
panchayatas.

>  Many of the Sarpanchas(Heads of the village self governance
unit)
>  suggested that it would have been better if Computers would
have
>
been

>  provided in place of Simputers. The reasons cited include 1.
The
>  computers can be easily repaired at local level 2. Its easy to
get
>  an expert of computer at village level 3. the bigger screen
of
>
computer.

>

>  we are not technical persons hence we would like to know from
group
>  the exact difference between A simputer and a computer and
why
>  simputers are considered to be better than computers for
rural
>
setting.

>

>  Dr. Anupama
Saxena

>  Head, Department of Political
Science
>  Guru Ghasidas University, Bilaspur, Chhattisgarh,
India
>
www.ggu.ac.in

>

>

>

>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hi Anupama,

Simputers are handheld computer running on battery. So these should be
convenient for capturing data at the point of action. More over these are
immune to power cuts.

Frankly, now we should have a version of simputer with wireless
connectivity with Wifi. and choice of CDMA/GSM-GPRS.


Best regards



  Soumyanath Chatterjee                          IBM

  SAP-AM-BW Consultant / Ericsson Account        . souchatt@...
  Signum ID: XBMSOCH

  ( Telephone :+91-33-4009 3656                  + IBM India Pvt. Ltd.
  ( Cellular :+91-98318 04223                    BCS SL*-6A-075
                                                 X 1-7 Block EP/GP
                                                 Sector – V Salt Lake
                                                 Kolkata 700 091
                                                 INDIA







              "gemprex"
              <anupama66@rediff
              mail.com>                                                  To
              Sent by:                  simputer@yahoogroups.com
              simputer@yahoogro                                          cc
              ups.com
                                                                    Subject
                                        [simputer] simputers in
              06/25/2008 08:59          Chhattisgarh
              PM


              Please respond to
              simputer@yahoogro
                   ups.com











  Hi
  we are engaged in a study on " Gender Evaluation of E -Gram Suraj
  scheme of chhattisgarh , India" .The simputers are used in the
  scheme. Recently we have carried out a survey in 64 gram
  panchayatas.
  Many of the Sarpanchas(Heads of the village self governance unit)
  suggested that it would have been better if Computers would have
  been
  provided in place of Simputers. The reasons cited include 1. The
  computers can be easily repaired at local level 2. Its easy to get
  an expert of computer at village level 3. the bigger screen of
  computer.

  we are not technical persons hence we would like to know from group
  the exact difference between A simputer and a computer and why
  simputers are considered to be better than computers for rural
  setting.

  Dr. Anupama Saxena
  Head, Department of Political Science
  Guru Ghasidas University, Bilaspur, Chhattisgarh, India
  www.ggu.ac.in





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Dr. Anupama Saxena wrote:-
> we are not technical persons hence we would like to know from group
> the exact difference between A simputer and a computer and why
> simputers are considered to be better than computers for rural
> setting.

Simputer IS a computer.

If you can use it at a desk with mains power, then a PC is much better
and probably even cheaper.

If you want to travel by bicycle to rural villages which lack
mains electricity, then simputer can 'do it'.

== Chris Glur.

PS. what happened to OLPC in India ?

Hello Anupama ,
how had you scoped your project  .?
Lets please understand a simputer is not a processing tool  but only has a
limited scope of capturing data at the source in a organised manner without
missing the finer and details .
once the days activity is over its synchronised to the desktop application
this includes consolidation and  correction of errors in capturing
/collating and storing for archival before the other desktop applications
have to be used to handle the database so created for getting out meaningful
reports and information thru a MIS or Querying tool .

please send back your project scoping document over mail and also share how
you are actually going about the project in deployment to enable us to
actually help you out .
in fact the relevance of Simputer type of tools is increasing by the day  if
viable --economically as Govt rolls out the NREGA /RAjeev health Arogya
/other social programs addressing e-governance etc
thats where the real role of simputer and its related products is ..and
where the funds will actually come for development of  this range of
products and applications to support them .
regards
Sanjay Gadahlay
regards
Sanjay Gadhalay




2008/6/25 gemprex <anupama66@...>:

>   Hi
> we are engaged in a study on " Gender Evaluation of E -Gram Suraj
> scheme of chhattisgarh , India" .The simputers are used in the
> scheme. Recently we have carried out a survey in 64 gram
> panchayatas.
> Many of the Sarpanchas(Heads of the village self governance unit)
> suggested that it would have been better if Computers would have
> been
> provided in place of Simputers. The reasons cited include 1. The
> computers can be easily repaired at local level 2. Its easy to get
> an expert of computer at village level 3. the bigger screen of
> computer.
>
> we are not technical persons hence we would like to know from group
> the exact difference between A simputer and a computer and why
> simputers are considered to be better than computers for rural
> setting.
>
> Dr. Anupama Saxena
> Head, Department of Political Science
> Guru Ghasidas University, Bilaspur, Chhattisgarh, India
> www.ggu.ac.in
>
>
>



--
Warm regards ,

Sanjay Gadhalay
Managing Consultant and COO
SGC Enterprises

http://www.linkedin.com/in/sgcenterprises

" A Hundred times every day I remind my Self that my Inner and Outer Life
depended on the Labours of other men living and dead and that I must exert
myself in order to give in the same measure as I have received and I am
still receiving."
:A L B E R T E I N S T E I N

Addresses and contact details :
71 AWHO Colony Sector A , Secunderabad .India 500009
Mobile: +(91)98494 54569 Telefax: +(91) 40 27842607 Email:
sgadhalay@...


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Sabyaschi Das
Where can i see a sample product
please confirm i am based out of hyderabad .
in case you are looking for a distribution partner or outlet here as a pilot

please let me know /contact me i can help
regards
Sanjay Gadhalay

2008/6/26 Sabyasachi Das <Saby_das_in@...>:

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear All  ,
>
> We on behalf of Acceleear Consulting (p) Ltd based at Klkata ,India can
> supply simputer  with on custom developement application sogtware suitable
> for simputer on large scale. Interested organisation can contact
>
>
> Sabyasachi Das
>
> Director Business Developement
>
> Acceleear Conulting (p) Ltd
>
> CA233
> SECTOR-1
> Salt Lake City
>
> Kolkata70064
>
> 91 3364571599
> 919230513925
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On Thu, 2/14/08, cmv2tel@... <cmv2tel%40aol.com>
<cmv2tel@...<cmv2tel%40aol.com>>
> wrote:
>
> From: cmv2tel@... <cmv2tel%40aol.com> <cmv2tel@...<cmv2tel%40aol.com>
> >
> Subject: [simputer] Interested
> To: simputer@yahoogroups.com <simputer%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Thursday, February 14, 2008, 1:14 AM
>
> Dear Simputer,
> We would be interested in promoting, marketing + selling your Simputer in
> central Europe for further distribution in 3rd world countries. BUT from
> the
> news we`ve been getting, you are abanding the product. We, a group of sales
>
> distributers in Germany feel your product has merit but needs proper
> MARKETING:
>
> Don`t give up- but contact us for a JOINT VENTURE.
>
> Respectfully yours,
> Marina Valente
> ceo Teleco Communications Intl.
> Stuttgart, GERMANY
> Tel. +49 711 4206776
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>



--
Warm regards ,

Sanjay Gadhalay
Managing Consultant and COO
SGC Enterprises

http://www.linkedin.com/in/sgcenterprises

" A Hundred times every day I remind my Self that my Inner and Outer Life
depended on the Labours of other men living and dead and that I must exert
myself in order to give in the same measure as I have received and I am
still receiving."
:A L B E R T E I N S T E I N

Addresses and contact details :
71 AWHO Colony Sector A , Secunderabad .India 500009
Mobile: +(91)98494 54569 Telefax: +(91) 40 27842607 Email:
sgadhalay@...


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

The last news about the Simputer on the http://www.amidasimputer.com/buy/

Website is from 2005 three years ago and the Buy with credit card link
takes you to a page that says BUY but has no Shopping cart or SSL to
accept Credit Cards for an order.

Alan


--- In simputer@yahoogroups.com, Erik Harperink <hbharperink@...> wrote:
>
> Op 13-jan-2008, om 12:12 heeft Anura Shantha het volgende geschreven:
>
> > Hi,
> > I'm Anura and I'm sri lankan.I'm interested about the simputer.And
> > I want to know about it.I wish to get a simputer.If you can help to
> > me to get a simputer it is great help to me . Thank you very much.
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello Anura,
>
> Have a look at the Picopeta website. The latest Amida model is for
> sale now. I can't tell you if they will ship it to Sri Lanka, which
> is another country if I'm right. You need to have your credit card
> ready :-)). Just write them and submit your question.
>
> What are your plans with the Simputer? I'd like to know more about
> your project and your intensions. I suppose it will be for the
> benefit of rural areas in Sri Lanka, like in India. Please let me
> know and share it with others on the discussion list.
>
> http://www.simputer.org
> http://www.amidasimputer.com/buy/
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Erik
>
>
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> -
> Darwin powermacg3series.local 8.10.0 Darwin Kernel Version 8.10.0:
> Wed May 23 16:50:59 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.21.3~1/RELEASE_PPC Power
> Macintosh powerpc
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

At This point I would have to agree that you should get computers for
all the reasons stated plus the readilly available software.  I had
tired to purchase the simcomputers to develop software applications
but have met resistance from Indian companies when we simply wanted to
purchase some. Not sure if they are still made for resale.

Alan DeRossett
Digital Starlight
California,us

--- In simputer@yahoogroups.com, "gemprex" <anupama66@...> wrote:
>
> Hi
> we are engaged in a study on " Gender Evaluation of E -Gram Suraj
> scheme of chhattisgarh , India" .The simputers are used in the
> scheme. Recently we have carried out a survey in 64 gram
> panchayatas.
> Many of the Sarpanchas(Heads of the village self governance unit)
> suggested that it would have been better if Computers would have
> been
> provided in place of  Simputers. The reasons cited include 1. The
> computers can be easily repaired at local level 2. Its easy to get
> an expert of computer at village level 3. the bigger screen of
> computer.
>
> we are not technical persons hence we would like to know from group
> the exact difference between A simputer and a computer and why
> simputers are considered to be better than computers for rural
> setting.
>
>
> Dr. Anupama Saxena
> Head, Department of Political Science
> Guru Ghasidas University, Bilaspur, Chhattisgarh, India
> www.ggu.ac.in
>

 
 
 
 
 
 
Dear All  ,
 
We on behalf of Acceleear Consulting (p) Ltd based at Klkata ,India can supply
simputer  with on custom developement application sogtware suitable for simputer
on large scale. Interested organisation can contact
 
 
Sabyasachi Das
 
Director Business Developement
 
Acceleear Conulting (p) Ltd
 
CA233
SECTOR-1
Salt Lake City
 
Kolkata70064
 
91 3364571599
919230513925
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

--- On Thu, 2/14/08, cmv2tel@... <cmv2tel@...> wrote:

From: cmv2tel@... <cmv2tel@...>
Subject: [simputer] Interested
To: simputer@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, February 14, 2008, 1:14 AM






Dear Simputer,
We would be interested in promoting, marketing + selling your Simputer in
central Europe for further distribution in 3rd world countries. BUT from the
news we`ve been getting, you are abanding the product. We, a group of sales
distributers in Germany feel your product has merit but needs proper MARKETING:

Don`t give up- but contact us for a JOINT VENTURE.

Respectfully yours,
Marina Valente
ceo Teleco Communications Intl.
Stuttgart, GERMANY
Tel. +49 711 4206776

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi
we are engaged in a study on " Gender Evaluation of E -Gram Suraj
scheme of chhattisgarh , India" .The simputers are used in the
scheme. Recently we have carried out a survey in 64 gram
panchayatas.
Many of the Sarpanchas(Heads of the village self governance unit)
suggested that it would have been better if Computers would have
been
provided in place of  Simputers. The reasons cited include 1. The
computers can be easily repaired at local level 2. Its easy to get
an expert of computer at village level 3. the bigger screen of
computer.

we are not technical persons hence we would like to know from group
the exact difference between A simputer and a computer and why
simputers are considered to be better than computers for rural
setting.


Dr. Anupama Saxena
Head, Department of Political Science
Guru Ghasidas University, Bilaspur, Chhattisgarh, India
www.ggu.ac.in

Redefining boundaries
PENNY WISE
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form of license/subscription fee, customization charges, share in ad-revenue
and charges for support and maintenance.  The company's net profit rose 70
per cent to Rs 155 crore on 88 per cent rise in revenue to Rs 316.8 crore in
FY08, compared with FY07. Notably, given the potential in various segments
that the company operates in, the high growth period for Geodesic may have
just begun.  *Information*
Internet is the fastest growing media advertising channel today and most
large organizations have started allocating to the tune of 15-20 per cent of
the total ad-budgets to online advertising.  Here, Geodesic has developed a
context based advertising product called 'ADePT', which helps companies in
user acquisition and thus gives a boost to the ad-revenue generated on their
website.  Another product, Mundu 'Remote Desktop' allows users on the move
to log to their office and home systems from mobile phones and manipulate
information as per their convenience.  The company also offers a customer
relationship management (CRM) software called Spyder that enables companies
to conduct targeted marketing and keep a check on service misalignments.  The
knowledge acquired during developing, the low cost computer – Simputer, was
used to develop 'OLAI' – Open Learning with Autonomy and Interactivity, a
web based outdoor computing platform that allows students to read e-books,
write notes and tag them with e-books and relevant content on the internet.
Targeted at the worldwide education market, OLAI is expected to be priced in
the range of $450-600 and launched in the third quarter of FY09.
*Communication
*
Mundu's IM not only lets you communicate with all the major IM service
providers through a single user interface but also facilitates in
multi-network conferencing.  Geodesic charges $11 as a one-time subscription
fee to download the IM, whether desktop computer or mobile phone. Daily
downloads of IM in FY08 have been in the range of 1,800 to 5,000, which give
us an idea about the popularity of this product worldwide.  In the mobile
phone segment, the smartphone users are the prime target audience of the
Mundu package, which includes services of instant messaging (IM),
voice-over-internet-protocol (VoIP) and internet radio.  Geodesic licenses
its instant messaging platform to mobile handset manufacturers and telecom
operators, thus providing it with sustainable revenue streams. The company
has already launched its messaging services in Nokia and Sony Ericsson
smartphone handsets and has an agreement with players like BenQ.  As these
companies increase their smartphone presence in rapidly growing markets such
as India and rest of Asia, Geodesic stands to gain from their expanding
presence.  Geodesic' Mundu IM is already being used by more than 4 lakh
iPhone users through the internet, which could get a huge boost once Apple
allows third party software platforms on its phones. Its VoIP product, Mundu
Speak, allows users to make calls around the globe for charges as low as 1.5
cents per minute (USA), with zero installation charges as of now.  It is the
'cost-cutting' feature of Mundu Speak that has tempted the company to work
out a subscription model, which it plans to roll out in a couple of months,
as the company is very upbeat about this product.
    *MARGIN COMFORT* *Rs crore*

FY 08

FY 09E

FY 10E
  Net sales 317

501
706 Operating profit 192   312 425 Net profit 155 229 271 EPS (Rs) 16.8 24.6
28.8 PE (x) 11.9 8.1 6.9 *FY09 & FY10 are analysts estimates*  *
Entertainment*
Geodesic provides access to 1.5 lakh radio channels worldwide through its
mobile internet radio service Mundu Radio, which is bundled along with the
IM.  In association with Geodesic, Idea Cellular recently launched a GPRS
and internet radio package, giving access to over 40 digital channels to its
users for Rs 149 per month, wherein Geodesic will earn 30 per cent of the
subscription charges.  Geodesic entered the publishing business last year by
acquiring the 60-year old iconic children's magazine, Chandamama for Rs 10
crores, which is currently a small revenue contributor.  With an archive of
more than 5,000 stories, the company plans to make tools available for
people to create online communities, stream audio and video content and
produce animation and graphic sequences.  *Growth prospects*
According to a recent study by In-Stat, a primary research company, there
are about 450 million smartphones worldwide at present and its market is
expected to grow at over 30 per cent CAGR for the next five years.  Mobile
phones users are showing a clear preference to have all their utilities on
one single device. Geodesic has integrated its base Mundu platform with CRM
solutions and various mobile phone applications (e.g. radio on mobile and
desktop management).  With this, Mundu user's choice of music, news,
communication and other content explodes without the need to carry separate
devices. The wider application base has resulted in strong client addition
in FY08.  It also proposes to extend its VoIP suite with launch of VoIP
hardware phones priced below Rs 1,500 (in FY09), which could be a huge
market in itself going forward.  *Investment rationale *
The inherent value addition of the products allows Geodesic to combat fears
of currency fluctuation and a slowdown that are faced by other IT players.
The company's products have been well-accepted internationally.  Analysts
expect Geodesic's revenue and earnings to grow at a CAGR of 49 per cent and
31 per cent over FY08-10. At Rs 200, it trades at a PE of 8.1 times its
estimated FY09 earnings. Geodesic's valuations are attractive and one can
expect a return of 35 per cent over a year.
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Cell +91-9970157402 (sometimes out of range)
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Looking for help to use PS2 keyboard and Frame buffer with t5963fb.c for  AX4510
uclinux board.


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<http://www.simputer.org/> <http://dhvani.net/>



   <http://dhvani.sourceforge.net/>
  <http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=35339>
  <http://sourceforge.net/docman/?group_id=35339>
  <http://dhvani.sourceforge.net/>
  <http://sourceforge.net/forum/?group_id=35339>
  <http://dhvani.sourceforge.net/links.html>
  <http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/dhvani>
  <http://www.simputer.org/>

*dhvani* is the Text-to-Speech effort of the Simputer Trust. The aim of this
effort is to ensure that literacy and knowledge of English are not essential
for using the Simputer. Using images in conjunction with voice output in
local languages makes the Simputer accessible to a larger fraction of the
Indian population.

Currently *dhvani* has a phonetics-to-speech engine which is capable of
generating intelligible speech from a suitable phonetic description in any
Indian Language . In addition, it is capable of converting UTF-8 text in
Hindi & Kannada to this phonetic description, and then speaking it out using
the Phonetics-to-Speech engine.

Development efforts are on to create a better phonetic engine, a platform
indepedent Java port, a language independent framework etc.

Check out the new Hindi TTS Prototype Demo (Java Applet
Version)<http://dhvani.sourceforge.net/demo.html>
Note: This applet is approx. 1.3 MB in size. Not recommended for slow line
access.



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http://www.centralchronicle.com/20080506/0605301.htm

The great digital divide
Computers were never the source of any one's poverty and as for
escaping poverty what people do for themselves matters more than what
technology could for them.

No doubt, India is acknowledged as the Mecca of IT and software
services' industry. But the digital divide is as wide as in any
developing country. For instance, in Bangalore considered the Silicon
Valley of India, the gap between those having access to computers and
those forced to do without it is quite striking.

A recent study by a global technology company points out that there is
just one PC for every 50 Indians. "The country has one PC (Personal
Computer) for every 50 Indians today. This represents a watershed era
in the history of the Indian market. However, we still have to go
miles as a country to evolve an eco system that would help take this
trend to the next level so that the benefits of computerization reach
the masses", says its India Manager, Kapil Dev Singh. And as pointed
out by Philp Clay of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
one should not expect instant miracles in bridging the digital divide
and creating digital villages.

Clearly, computer connectivity holds the key to usher in a veritable
"knowledge revolution" which has the potential to spur the
socio-economic progress in its varying manifestations. Indeed, the
former Indian President has been stressing on the need to give
quickening impetus to the process of "knowledge revolution in India".
As one commentator has put it, "Computers were never the source of any
one's poverty and as for escaping poverty what people do for
themselves matters more than what technology could for them".

However, many bold and imaginative attempts made in India to boost the
penetration of PC through the introduction of "affordable and low
cost" computing devices have failed to meet their desired objectives.
For instance, even after five years of its much acclaimed
introduction, Simputer, India's own low-cost computing device,
designed and developed by a team of computer scientists from
Bangalore-based Indian Institute of Science (IISc) in association with
the Indian IT industry has failed to make an impact on India's
computer connectivity scenario.

Touted as multi-purpose, easy to handle computing system, well-suited
to bridge the digital divide in the country, Simputer, is yet to
become popular. It was originally envisaged that shared Simputers
would be made available to village schools, community halls or other
areas where common facilities are usually free. However, the failure
of the promoters of Simptuer to tune to the specific needs of the
targeted user community is believed to be the major reason for its
slow penetration.

It may be recalled that not long back the Union Government had
rejected the proposal of MIT Media Lab to popularize US$100 laptop in
the Indian market. For the Centre had found the product was not suited
to the Indian needs. The argument was that US$100 investment on a
laptop could be spent more productively in other ways. "We cannot
visualize a situation for decades when we can go beyond the pilot
stage. We need classrooms and tables more urgently than any fancy
toys" says a government spokesman.

On a more practical plan, serious doubts have been raised as to
whether there is enough evidence to prove that children would
spontaneously be interested in seeking out educational materials and
interacting with the rest of the world with low-cost computers.
Further, there is also concern whether developing nations can set up a
robust network in the rural areas.

For precisely these reasons the idea of Nichola Negroponte, one of the
promoters of MIT Media Lab and a staunch champion of low-cost
computing systems, to make available low-cost laptops to children of
the third world has hit an unexpected roadblock. There is lukewarm
response to the US $100 laptop proposal. For here again there is a
concern whether children and teachers who have never seen a computer
would be in a position to use them in a productive educational way.

It was in 2005 that Negroponte unveiled his by now famous "One Laptop
per Child (OLPC) programme aimed at bridging the digital device in the
third world countries. The idea was to distribute around 150-million
low-cost laptops to the world's poorest school children through the
support of governments, the IT industry and voluntary organizations.
Significantly, Negroponte had sought a pledge from developing
countries to buy such laptops in bulk.

Regrettably, very few third world countries came forward to back-up
the project under which Negropone and his 20-member team had created a
rugged, innovative laptop and smart software for learning. In
particular, this green and white mini device designed to operate with
very little power supply and also resist adverse environmental and
weather conditions failed to find favour with most third world
governments.

The global chip giant Intel which had earlier partnered with
Negroponte's project has now come out with its own version of the
low-cost computer model. In fact, Libya showed preference for the
Intel system. In India, Intel has tied up with HCL Info systems to
popularize its low priced Intel powered classmate PC. Not to be left
behind, Indian IT companies like Wipro and Zenith have too initiated
their plans to market low cost computing systems. Interestingly, the
Classmate PC forms a part of Intel's pilot programme to improve
education in developing countries.

On another front, the software giant Microsoft is also working towards
making computer systems affordable by reducing the cost of software.
Microsoft has already stated that it will offer developing countries a
US $3 software package that includes window, a student version of
Microsoft Office and educational programmes.

As pointed out by a research analyst affordability is not the basic
constraint before the PC market in India. For in the ultimate analysis
to what extent a low cost computing system would be put to use is the
crux of the problem.

Radhakrishna Rao, INFA
--
Frederick FN Noronha * Independent Journalist
http://fn.goa-india.org * Phone +91-832-2409490
Cell +91-9970157402 (sometimes out of range)
http://www.youtube.com/user/fredericknoronha

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Redefining boundaries
PENNY WISE
Dhiren Shah / New Delhi May 12, 2008
A booming smartphone market and focus on leveraging its technological
expertise puts Geodesic Information Systems on a high growth
trajectory.

The entire media marketplace is in a state of seeming constant
upheaval as innovative technologies continue to fly at us with
increasing regularity.

The old analog world (print, TV and radio) of media scarcity has given
way to a media cornucopia of unprecedented abundance - Internet,
blogs, e-mail, iPods, mobile phones, VoIP, play stations, or social
networking and much more.

These are exciting time for software solution companies like Geodesic
Information Systems, focused on information, communication and
entertainment (ICE) for mobile phones and computers.

More than a 'messenger' company
Geodesic Information Systems, which operates under the 'Mundu' brand,
is widely recognized for its pioneering interoperable instant
messaging that successfully combines Google Talk, ICQ, MSN and Yahoo
across the Internet, wireless devices and platforms.

Geodesic primarily services companies, by making and maintaining
websites, portals and publishers by helping them increase the online
traffic on their websites and create solutions that increase
productivity and profitability, and lastly, retail customers by way of
its Mundu suite of products.

The company generates its revenue in the form of license/subscription
fee, customization charges, share in ad-revenue and charges for
support and maintenance.

The company's net profit rose 70 per cent to Rs 155 crore on 88 per
cent rise in revenue to Rs 316.8 crore in FY08, compared with FY07.
Notably, given the potential in various segments that the company
operates in, the high growth period for Geodesic may have just begun.

Information
Internet is the fastest growing media advertising channel today and
most large organizations have started allocating to the tune of 15-20
per cent of the total ad-budgets to online advertising.

Here, Geodesic has developed a context based advertising product
called 'ADePT', which helps companies in user acquisition and thus
gives a boost to the ad-revenue generated on their website.

Another product, Mundu 'Remote Desktop' allows users on the move to
log to their office and home systems from mobile phones and manipulate
information as per their convenience.

The company also offers a customer relationship management (CRM)
software called Spyder that enables companies to conduct targeted
marketing and keep a check on service misalignments.

The knowledge acquired during developing, the low cost computer –
Simputer, was used to develop 'OLAI' – Open Learning with Autonomy and
Interactivity, a web based outdoor computing platform that allows
students to read e-books, write notes and tag them with e-books and
relevant content on the internet. Targeted at the worldwide education
market, OLAI is expected to be priced in the range of $450-600 and
launched in the third quarter of FY09.

Communication
Mundu's IM not only lets you communicate with all the major IM service
providers through a single user interface but also facilitates in
multi-network conferencing.

Geodesic charges $11 as a one-time subscription fee to download the
IM, whether desktop computer or mobile phone. Daily downloads of IM in
FY08 have been in the range of 1,800 to 5,000, which give us an idea
about the popularity of this product worldwide.

In the mobile phone segment, the smartphone users are the prime target
audience of the Mundu package, which includes services of instant
messaging (IM), voice-over-internet-protocol (VoIP) and internet
radio.

Geodesic licenses its instant messaging platform to mobile handset
manufacturers and telecom operators, thus providing it with
sustainable revenue streams. The company has already launched its
messaging services in Nokia and Sony Ericsson smartphone handsets and
has an agreement with players like BenQ.

As these companies increase their smartphone presence in rapidly
growing markets such as India and rest of Asia, Geodesic stands to
gain from their expanding presence.

Geodesic' Mundu IM is already being used by more than 4 lakh iPhone
users through the internet, which could get a huge boost once Apple
allows third party software platforms on its phones. Its VoIP product,
Mundu Speak, allows users to make calls around the globe for charges
as low as 1.5 cents per minute (USA), with zero installation charges
as of now.

It is the 'cost-cutting' feature of Mundu Speak that has tempted the
company to work out a subscription model, which it plans to roll out
in a couple of months, as the company is very upbeat about this
product.

MARGIN COMFORT
Rs crore

FY 08


FY 09E


FY 10E
Net sales  317

501
	 706
Operating profit  192 	  312  425
Net profit  155  229  271
EPS (Rs)  16.8  24.6  28.8
PE (x)  11.9  8.1  6.9
FY09 & FY10 are analysts estimates

Entertainment
Geodesic provides access to 1.5 lakh radio channels worldwide through
its mobile internet radio service Mundu Radio, which is bundled along
with the IM.

In association with Geodesic, Idea Cellular recently launched a GPRS
and internet radio package, giving access to over 40 digital channels
to its users for Rs 149 per month, wherein Geodesic will earn 30 per
cent of the subscription charges.

Geodesic entered the publishing business last year by acquiring the
60-year old iconic children's magazine, Chandamama for Rs 10 crores,
which is currently a small revenue contributor.

With an archive of more than 5,000 stories, the company plans to make
tools available for people to create online communities, stream audio
and video content and produce animation and graphic sequences.

Growth prospects
According to a recent study by In-Stat, a primary research company,
there are about 450 million smartphones worldwide at present and its
market is expected to grow at over 30 per cent CAGR for the next five
years.

Mobile phones users are showing a clear preference to have all their
utilities on one single device. Geodesic has integrated its base Mundu
platform with CRM solutions and various mobile phone applications
(e.g. radio on mobile and desktop management).

With this, Mundu user's choice of music, news, communication and other
content explodes without the need to carry separate devices. The wider
application base has resulted in strong client addition in FY08.

It also proposes to extend its VoIP suite with launch of VoIP hardware
phones priced below Rs 1,500 (in FY09), which could be a huge market
in itself going forward.

Investment rationale
The inherent value addition of the products allows Geodesic to combat
fears of currency fluctuation and a slowdown that are faced by other
IT players. The company's products have been well-accepted
internationally.

Analysts expect Geodesic's revenue and earnings to grow at a CAGR of
49 per cent and 31 per cent over FY08-10. At Rs 200, it trades at a PE
of 8.1 times its estimated FY09 earnings. Geodesic's valuations are
attractive and one can expect a return of 35 per cent over a year.
--
Frederick FN Noronha * Independent Journalist
http://fn.goa-india.org * Phone +91-832-2409490
Cell +91-9970157402 (sometimes out of range)
http://www.youtube.com/user/fredericknoronha

http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/Now-simputer-ticket-on-DTCs/299176/

Now, simputer ticket on DTCs

AanchalBansal
Posted online: Sunday , April 20, 2008 at 11:58:36
Updated: Sunday , April 20, 2008 at 11:58:36

New Delhi, April 19 With the Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) corridor between
Ambedkar Nagar and Moolchand taking off on May 1, the Delhi Transport
Corporation (DTC) now plans to introduce another first: automatic
ticket issuing system.

As per plans, at least 100 buses on the 5.2-km corridor would have
conductors operating hand-held simputers. The idea, DTC chairman
Ramesh Negi said, is to cut out the "manual ticket" method. The new
tickets, he said, would be "more like computerised receipts".

The ticket would carry details such as the stops between which a
passenger is to commute, the route, and the ticket rate among others,
Negi said. "The machine will store all this information. This will
help both passengers and DTC — commuters would not be cheated, and the
DTC will get information on commuter trends, routes that carry more
traffic, and earnings per kilometre."

Besides, the ticket will not be re-usable, he said.

In 2004, the DTC had set up these machines in some buses, including
the high-capacity buses plying between Hauz Khas and Shivaji Stadium,
to check the system's feasibility. The Corporation recently cleared
the proposal to formally introduce the system.

Initially installed in 100 buses along the corridor, the system would
be introduced in 1,000 more buses within two months, Negi said. A
Chinese-Indian private consortium will supply the machines free of
cost, he added.

The firm will be allowed to generate revenue by using the other side
of the ticket to display own advertisements.

Transport Commissioner R K Verma said the initiative is a first step
towards introducing an integrated fare system before the Commonwealth
Games. "By 2010, commuters will need a single ticket to travel on
Delhi Metro and DTC buses," Verma said. "This is a step in that
direction."

--
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http://fn.goa-india.org * Phone +91-832-2409490
Cell +91-9970157402 (sometimes out of range)
http://www.youtube.com/user/fredericknoronha

Dear friends,

I am presently working on second edition for my (second) book on
Computer Architecture. This subject is part of the syllabus for B.E/
B.Tech (CSE/IT/EC/EEE/E&I) and MCAS/Msc(IT).It is qute likely that
some of your kids have used the first edition. I would appreciate
any feedback that could be useful for the second edition. The first
edition was published in 2004 and it has been a prescribed text book
in some Universities in North India.

Regards,
B.Govindarajalu

Book Details:
Title: COMPUTER ARCHITECTURE AND ORGANIZATION ; Design principles
and Applications
ISBN : 0-07-053236-2
Pulisher: McGraw - Hill

--- In simputer@yahoogroups.com, "Laxminarayan Kamath" <kamathln@...>
wrote:
>
> second hand motorola a780s and a1200s are available for dirt cheap
> rates. Get a Linux Guru to install openezx on it and you are done.
>
> --
> --
> Laxminarayan Kamath Ammembal
> (+91) 9945036093
>
how to convert a mobile phone into a GPS navigation device or vehicle
tracking system based on GPS? any good/cheap software and/or hardware
available?

second hand motorola a780s and a1200s are available for dirt cheap
rates. Get a Linux Guru to install openezx on it and you are done.
OpenMoko is also becoming a bit popular.

--
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Laxminarayan Kamath Ammembal
(+91) 9945036093

second hand motorola a780s and a1200s are available for dirt cheap
rates. Get a Linux Guru to install openezx on it and you are done.

--
--
Laxminarayan Kamath Ammembal
(+91) 9945036093

Now in market some Mobile Phone are also available
which provide much more facilties than a Simputer
-- Entering text/data with Light touch pen
-- Wide LCD colour screen
-- all MM, Blue tooth, audio, vedio, Data transfer facilties.
-- add-on Flash RamCards
-- programmable softwares/utilties, GIS, Internet,
-- much more.
-- cheaper price.

Would Simputer compete with these?

Hariram


On 28 Feb 2008 11:22:02 -0000, simputer@yahoogroups.com <
simputer@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>  Posted by: "Arun K" arun_k_kumar@...
> <arun_k_kumar@...?Subject=+Re%3A%20Buy%20a%20simputer>  arun_k_kumar
> <http://profiles.yahoo.com/arun_k_kumar>  Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:16 pm (PST)
> ...
> More than the hardware itself, the "Simputer" has
> become a metaphor for affordable mobile computing in
> the developing world.
>
>
>


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