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Redefining boundaries
PENNY WISE
Dhiren Shah / New Delhi May 12, 2008


A booming smartphone market and focus on leveraging its technological
expertise puts Geodesic Information Systems on a high growth trajectory.  The
entire media marketplace is in a state of seeming constant upheaval as
innovative technologies continue to fly at us with increasing regularity.  The
old analog world (print, TV and radio) of media scarcity has given way to a
media cornucopia of unprecedented abundance - Internet, blogs, e-mail,
iPods, mobile phones, VoIP, play stations, or social networking and much
more.  These are exciting time for software solution companies like Geodesic
Information Systems, focused on information, communication and entertainment
(ICE) for mobile phones and computers.  *More than a 'messenger' company*
Geodesic Information Systems, which operates under the 'Mundu' brand, is
widely recognized for its pioneering interoperable instant messaging that
successfully combines Google Talk, ICQ, MSN and Yahoo across the Internet,
wireless devices and platforms.  Geodesic primarily services companies, by
making and maintaining websites, portals and publishers by helping them
increase the online traffic on their websites and create solutions that
increase productivity and profitability, and lastly, retail customers by way
of its Mundu suite of products.  The company generates its revenue in the
form of license/subscription fee, customization charges, share in ad-revenue
and charges for support and maintenance.  The company's net profit rose 70
per cent to Rs 155 crore on 88 per cent rise in revenue to Rs 316.8 crore in
FY08, compared with FY07. Notably, given the potential in various segments
that the company operates in, the high growth period for Geodesic may have
just begun.  *Information*
Internet is the fastest growing media advertising channel today and most
large organizations have started allocating to the tune of 15-20 per cent of
the total ad-budgets to online advertising.  Here, Geodesic has developed a
context based advertising product called 'ADePT', which helps companies in
user acquisition and thus gives a boost to the ad-revenue generated on their
website.  Another product, Mundu 'Remote Desktop' allows users on the move
to log to their office and home systems from mobile phones and manipulate
information as per their convenience.  The company also offers a customer
relationship management (CRM) software called Spyder that enables companies
to conduct targeted marketing and keep a check on service misalignments.  The
knowledge acquired during developing, the low cost computer – Simputer, was
used to develop 'OLAI' – Open Learning with Autonomy and Interactivity, a
web based outdoor computing platform that allows students to read e-books,
write notes and tag them with e-books and relevant content on the internet.
Targeted at the worldwide education market, OLAI is expected to be priced in
the range of $450-600 and launched in the third quarter of FY09.
*Communication
*
Mundu's IM not only lets you communicate with all the major IM service
providers through a single user interface but also facilitates in
multi-network conferencing.  Geodesic charges $11 as a one-time subscription
fee to download the IM, whether desktop computer or mobile phone. Daily
downloads of IM in FY08 have been in the range of 1,800 to 5,000, which give
us an idea about the popularity of this product worldwide.  In the mobile
phone segment, the smartphone users are the prime target audience of the
Mundu package, which includes services of instant messaging (IM),
voice-over-internet-protocol (VoIP) and internet radio.  Geodesic licenses
its instant messaging platform to mobile handset manufacturers and telecom
operators, thus providing it with sustainable revenue streams. The company
has already launched its messaging services in Nokia and Sony Ericsson
smartphone handsets and has an agreement with players like BenQ.  As these
companies increase their smartphone presence in rapidly growing markets such
as India and rest of Asia, Geodesic stands to gain from their expanding
presence.  Geodesic' Mundu IM is already being used by more than 4 lakh
iPhone users through the internet, which could get a huge boost once Apple
allows third party software platforms on its phones. Its VoIP product, Mundu
Speak, allows users to make calls around the globe for charges as low as 1.5
cents per minute (USA), with zero installation charges as of now.  It is the
'cost-cutting' feature of Mundu Speak that has tempted the company to work
out a subscription model, which it plans to roll out in a couple of months,
as the company is very upbeat about this product.
    *MARGIN COMFORT* *Rs crore*

FY 08

FY 09E

FY 10E
  Net sales 317

501
706 Operating profit 192   312 425 Net profit 155 229 271 EPS (Rs) 16.8 24.6
28.8 PE (x) 11.9 8.1 6.9 *FY09 & FY10 are analysts estimates*  *
Entertainment*
Geodesic provides access to 1.5 lakh radio channels worldwide through its
mobile internet radio service Mundu Radio, which is bundled along with the
IM.  In association with Geodesic, Idea Cellular recently launched a GPRS
and internet radio package, giving access to over 40 digital channels to its
users for Rs 149 per month, wherein Geodesic will earn 30 per cent of the
subscription charges.  Geodesic entered the publishing business last year by
acquiring the 60-year old iconic children's magazine, Chandamama for Rs 10
crores, which is currently a small revenue contributor.  With an archive of
more than 5,000 stories, the company plans to make tools available for
people to create online communities, stream audio and video content and
produce animation and graphic sequences.  *Growth prospects*
According to a recent study by In-Stat, a primary research company, there
are about 450 million smartphones worldwide at present and its market is
expected to grow at over 30 per cent CAGR for the next five years.  Mobile
phones users are showing a clear preference to have all their utilities on
one single device. Geodesic has integrated its base Mundu platform with CRM
solutions and various mobile phone applications (e.g. radio on mobile and
desktop management).  With this, Mundu user's choice of music, news,
communication and other content explodes without the need to carry separate
devices. The wider application base has resulted in strong client addition
in FY08.  It also proposes to extend its VoIP suite with launch of VoIP
hardware phones priced below Rs 1,500 (in FY09), which could be a huge
market in itself going forward.  *Investment rationale *
The inherent value addition of the products allows Geodesic to combat fears
of currency fluctuation and a slowdown that are faced by other IT players.
The company's products have been well-accepted internationally.  Analysts
expect Geodesic's revenue and earnings to grow at a CAGR of 49 per cent and
31 per cent over FY08-10. At Rs 200, it trades at a PE of 8.1 times its
estimated FY09 earnings. Geodesic's valuations are attractive and one can
expect a return of 35 per cent over a year.
http://www.business-standard.com/common/news_article.php?autono=322616&leftnm=0&\
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Frederick FN Noronha * Independent Journalist
http://fn.goa-india.org * Phone +91-832-2409490
Cell +91-9970157402 (sometimes out of range)
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Hi
we are engaged in a study on " Gender Evaluation of E -Gram Suraj
scheme of chhattisgarh , India" .The simputers are used in the
scheme. Recently we have carried out a survey in 64 gram
panchayatas.
Many of the Sarpanchas(Heads of the village self governance unit)
suggested that it would have been better if Computers would have
been
provided in place of  Simputers. The reasons cited include 1. The
computers can be easily repaired at local level 2. Its easy to get
an expert of computer at village level 3. the bigger screen of
computer.

we are not technical persons hence we would like to know from group
the exact difference between A simputer and a computer and why
simputers are considered to be better than computers for rural
setting.


Dr. Anupama Saxena
Head, Department of Political Science
Guru Ghasidas University, Bilaspur, Chhattisgarh, India
www.ggu.ac.in

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--- On Thu, 2/14/08, cmv2tel@... <cmv2tel@...> wrote:

From: cmv2tel@... <cmv2tel@...>
Subject: [simputer] Interested
To: simputer@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, February 14, 2008, 1:14 AM






Dear Simputer,
We would be interested in promoting, marketing + selling your Simputer in
central Europe for further distribution in 3rd world countries. BUT from the
news we`ve been getting, you are abanding the product. We, a group of sales
distributers in Germany feel your product has merit but needs proper MARKETING:

Don`t give up- but contact us for a JOINT VENTURE.

Respectfully yours,
Marina Valente
ceo Teleco Communications Intl.
Stuttgart, GERMANY
Tel. +49 711 4206776

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At This point I would have to agree that you should get computers for
all the reasons stated plus the readilly available software.  I had
tired to purchase the simcomputers to develop software applications
but have met resistance from Indian companies when we simply wanted to
purchase some. Not sure if they are still made for resale.

Alan DeRossett
Digital Starlight
California,us

--- In simputer@yahoogroups.com, "gemprex" <anupama66@...> wrote:
>
> Hi
> we are engaged in a study on " Gender Evaluation of E -Gram Suraj
> scheme of chhattisgarh , India" .The simputers are used in the
> scheme. Recently we have carried out a survey in 64 gram
> panchayatas.
> Many of the Sarpanchas(Heads of the village self governance unit)
> suggested that it would have been better if Computers would have
> been
> provided in place of  Simputers. The reasons cited include 1. The
> computers can be easily repaired at local level 2. Its easy to get
> an expert of computer at village level 3. the bigger screen of
> computer.
>
> we are not technical persons hence we would like to know from group
> the exact difference between A simputer and a computer and why
> simputers are considered to be better than computers for rural
> setting.
>
>
> Dr. Anupama Saxena
> Head, Department of Political Science
> Guru Ghasidas University, Bilaspur, Chhattisgarh, India
> www.ggu.ac.in
>

The last news about the Simputer on the http://www.amidasimputer.com/buy/

Website is from 2005 three years ago and the Buy with credit card link
takes you to a page that says BUY but has no Shopping cart or SSL to
accept Credit Cards for an order.

Alan


--- In simputer@yahoogroups.com, Erik Harperink <hbharperink@...> wrote:
>
> Op 13-jan-2008, om 12:12 heeft Anura Shantha het volgende geschreven:
>
> > Hi,
> > I'm Anura and I'm sri lankan.I'm interested about the simputer.And
> > I want to know about it.I wish to get a simputer.If you can help to
> > me to get a simputer it is great help to me . Thank you very much.
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello Anura,
>
> Have a look at the Picopeta website. The latest Amida model is for
> sale now. I can't tell you if they will ship it to Sri Lanka, which
> is another country if I'm right. You need to have your credit card
> ready :-)). Just write them and submit your question.
>
> What are your plans with the Simputer? I'd like to know more about
> your project and your intensions. I suppose it will be for the
> benefit of rural areas in Sri Lanka, like in India. Please let me
> know and share it with others on the discussion list.
>
> http://www.simputer.org
> http://www.amidasimputer.com/buy/
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Erik
>
>
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Sabyaschi Das
Where can i see a sample product
please confirm i am based out of hyderabad .
in case you are looking for a distribution partner or outlet here as a pilot

please let me know /contact me i can help
regards
Sanjay Gadhalay

2008/6/26 Sabyasachi Das <Saby_das_in@...>:

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear All  ,
>
> We on behalf of Acceleear Consulting (p) Ltd based at Klkata ,India can
> supply simputer  with on custom developement application sogtware suitable
> for simputer on large scale. Interested organisation can contact
>
>
> Sabyasachi Das
>
> Director Business Developement
>
> Acceleear Conulting (p) Ltd
>
> CA233
> SECTOR-1
> Salt Lake City
>
> Kolkata70064
>
> 91 3364571599
> 919230513925
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On Thu, 2/14/08, cmv2tel@... <cmv2tel%40aol.com>
<cmv2tel@...<cmv2tel%40aol.com>>
> wrote:
>
> From: cmv2tel@... <cmv2tel%40aol.com> <cmv2tel@...<cmv2tel%40aol.com>
> >
> Subject: [simputer] Interested
> To: simputer@yahoogroups.com <simputer%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Thursday, February 14, 2008, 1:14 AM
>
> Dear Simputer,
> We would be interested in promoting, marketing + selling your Simputer in
> central Europe for further distribution in 3rd world countries. BUT from
> the
> news we`ve been getting, you are abanding the product. We, a group of sales
>
> distributers in Germany feel your product has merit but needs proper
> MARKETING:
>
> Don`t give up- but contact us for a JOINT VENTURE.
>
> Respectfully yours,
> Marina Valente
> ceo Teleco Communications Intl.
> Stuttgart, GERMANY
> Tel. +49 711 4206776
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>



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Warm regards ,

Sanjay Gadhalay
Managing Consultant and COO
SGC Enterprises

http://www.linkedin.com/in/sgcenterprises

" A Hundred times every day I remind my Self that my Inner and Outer Life
depended on the Labours of other men living and dead and that I must exert
myself in order to give in the same measure as I have received and I am
still receiving."
:A L B E R T E I N S T E I N

Addresses and contact details :
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Mobile: +(91)98494 54569 Telefax: +(91) 40 27842607 Email:
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Hello Anupama ,
how had you scoped your project  .?
Lets please understand a simputer is not a processing tool  but only has a
limited scope of capturing data at the source in a organised manner without
missing the finer and details .
once the days activity is over its synchronised to the desktop application
this includes consolidation and  correction of errors in capturing
/collating and storing for archival before the other desktop applications
have to be used to handle the database so created for getting out meaningful
reports and information thru a MIS or Querying tool .

please send back your project scoping document over mail and also share how
you are actually going about the project in deployment to enable us to
actually help you out .
in fact the relevance of Simputer type of tools is increasing by the day  if
viable --economically as Govt rolls out the NREGA /RAjeev health Arogya
/other social programs addressing e-governance etc
thats where the real role of simputer and its related products is ..and
where the funds will actually come for development of  this range of
products and applications to support them .
regards
Sanjay Gadahlay
regards
Sanjay Gadhalay




2008/6/25 gemprex <anupama66@...>:

>   Hi
> we are engaged in a study on " Gender Evaluation of E -Gram Suraj
> scheme of chhattisgarh , India" .The simputers are used in the
> scheme. Recently we have carried out a survey in 64 gram
> panchayatas.
> Many of the Sarpanchas(Heads of the village self governance unit)
> suggested that it would have been better if Computers would have
> been
> provided in place of Simputers. The reasons cited include 1. The
> computers can be easily repaired at local level 2. Its easy to get
> an expert of computer at village level 3. the bigger screen of
> computer.
>
> we are not technical persons hence we would like to know from group
> the exact difference between A simputer and a computer and why
> simputers are considered to be better than computers for rural
> setting.
>
> Dr. Anupama Saxena
> Head, Department of Political Science
> Guru Ghasidas University, Bilaspur, Chhattisgarh, India
> www.ggu.ac.in
>
>
>



--
Warm regards ,

Sanjay Gadhalay
Managing Consultant and COO
SGC Enterprises

http://www.linkedin.com/in/sgcenterprises

" A Hundred times every day I remind my Self that my Inner and Outer Life
depended on the Labours of other men living and dead and that I must exert
myself in order to give in the same measure as I have received and I am
still receiving."
:A L B E R T E I N S T E I N

Addresses and contact details :
71 AWHO Colony Sector A , Secunderabad .India 500009
Mobile: +(91)98494 54569 Telefax: +(91) 40 27842607 Email:
sgadhalay@...


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Dr. Anupama Saxena wrote:-
> we are not technical persons hence we would like to know from group
> the exact difference between A simputer and a computer and why
> simputers are considered to be better than computers for rural
> setting.

Simputer IS a computer.

If you can use it at a desk with mains power, then a PC is much better
and probably even cheaper.

If you want to travel by bicycle to rural villages which lack
mains electricity, then simputer can 'do it'.

== Chris Glur.

PS. what happened to OLPC in India ?

Hi Anupama,

Simputers are handheld computer running on battery. So these should be
convenient for capturing data at the point of action. More over these are
immune to power cuts.

Frankly, now we should have a version of simputer with wireless
connectivity with Wifi. and choice of CDMA/GSM-GPRS.


Best regards



  Soumyanath Chatterjee                          IBM

  SAP-AM-BW Consultant / Ericsson Account        . souchatt@...
  Signum ID: XBMSOCH

  ( Telephone :+91-33-4009 3656                  + IBM India Pvt. Ltd.
  ( Cellular :+91-98318 04223                    BCS SL*-6A-075
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  Hi
  we are engaged in a study on " Gender Evaluation of E -Gram Suraj
  scheme of chhattisgarh , India" .The simputers are used in the
  scheme. Recently we have carried out a survey in 64 gram
  panchayatas.
  Many of the Sarpanchas(Heads of the village self governance unit)
  suggested that it would have been better if Computers would have
  been
  provided in place of Simputers. The reasons cited include 1. The
  computers can be easily repaired at local level 2. Its easy to get
  an expert of computer at village level 3. the bigger screen of
  computer.

  we are not technical persons hence we would like to know from group
  the exact difference between A simputer and a computer and why
  simputers are considered to be better than computers for rural
  setting.

  Dr. Anupama Saxena
  Head, Department of Political Science
  Guru Ghasidas University, Bilaspur, Chhattisgarh, India
  www.ggu.ac.in





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I wonder if there is any need for Simputers any more.  If there was,
then wouldn't they be selling?

Puzzled,

Ahmad


--- In simputer@yahoogroups.com, Soumyanath Chatterjee <souchatt@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Anupama,
>
> Simputers are handheld computer running on battery. So these should
be
> convenient for capturing data at the point of action. More over
these are
> immune to power cuts.
>
> Frankly, now we should have a version of simputer with wireless
> connectivity with Wifi. and choice of CDMA/GSM-GPRS.
>
>
> Best regards
>
>
>

>  Soumyanath Chatterjee
IBM
>

>  SAP-AM-BW Consultant / Ericsson Account        . souchatt@...
>  Signum ID:
XBMSOCH
>

>  ( Telephone :+91-33-4009 3656                  + IBM India Pvt.
Ltd.
>  ( Cellular :+91-98318 04223                    BCS SL*-6A-
075
>                                                 X 1-7 Block
EP/GP
>                                                 Sector �" V Salt
Lake
>                                                 Kolkata 700
091
>
INDIA
>

>
>
>
>
>
>

>              "gemprex"

>
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in
>              06/25/2008 08:59
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>
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>

>

>              Please respond
to
>
simputer@yahoogro
>
ups.com
>

>

>
>
>
>
>

>

>

>

>

>
Hi

>  we are engaged in a study on " Gender Evaluation of E -Gram
Suraj
>  scheme of chhattisgarh , India" .The simputers are used in
the
>  scheme. Recently we have carried out a survey in 64
gram
>
panchayatas.

>  Many of the Sarpanchas(Heads of the village self governance
unit)
>  suggested that it would have been better if Computers would
have
>
been

>  provided in place of Simputers. The reasons cited include 1.
The
>  computers can be easily repaired at local level 2. Its easy to
get
>  an expert of computer at village level 3. the bigger screen
of
>
computer.

>

>  we are not technical persons hence we would like to know from
group
>  the exact difference between A simputer and a computer and
why
>  simputers are considered to be better than computers for
rural
>
setting.

>

>  Dr. Anupama
Saxena

>  Head, Department of Political
Science
>  Guru Ghasidas University, Bilaspur, Chhattisgarh,
India
>
www.ggu.ac.in

>

>

>

>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hi Ashraf,

Do the math...

How many would you need to sell every month, and at what profit, to
break even?  I am sure the Simputer or its successor can make a
comeback if people want it.  But it should not be a few hundred
people.  It needs thousands per month to support the infrastructure
to market and maintain it.

If you and others really feel there is sufficient need for such a
device, let's define what we want and find someone to build it!

Regards,

Ahmad



--- In simputer@yahoogroups.com, "Khan Md Ashraf" <kmashr@...> wrote:
>
> I think a lot of people belonging to this group are always hoping
that
> the simputer will make a major comeback.
> What it's creators and marketers never caught on to or cared about
was
> that it was a dream come true for a lot of Indians like me.
> But as is wont in this country the best can simply fail because the
> people behind it gave up too soon and too easily.
> They were happy to ape what came from the west better still not even
> build on our ability to be as good as if not better than the west.
> To me one shining example of it is our ISRO, they never gave up.
Today
> they have proved that they are as capable if not better than the
rest
> of the world.
>
> The reason the Simputer turned out to be a dead duck was because the
> all too easy 'we give up' attitude sprung up to kill it.
> I don't care if it sold or not outside of our borders, it was meant
> for India and Indians and without a doubt would have improved with
> time. I don't care what the west or anybody else said about it too.
>
> We also should realise that most Indians really care nothing much
for
> India as can be seen from the goings on in Maharashtra. In less that
> 100 years we are likely to revert back to the hodge podge of states
> and fiefs we were before the British dragged together a country out
of
>  all of them called India
>
> Ashraf
> --- In simputer@yahoogroups.com, sridhar G <sosreeus@> wrote:
> >
> > Is some one from Simputer hearing about this? I too wonder why don
> you have a proper marketing channel to deal this? After all even
> flowers/Agarbathis are selling online. We claim ourself as too techy
> not even providing online payment access. What is that really
stoping?
> >
> > Satish Jha <satish.jha@> wrote:          Anura,
> >
> > What is it about a device that does not have even a few thousand
> pieces in
> > production in 8 years that keeps people coming back to it and yet
> does not
> > reflect in anything else like growing sales (did they really
> start?).. In
> > the world of PCs and its substitutes, if a product does not hit a
> million in
> > year 1, its considered dead by the market.. What do you think
keeps
> the myth
> > of simputer alive and kicking?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > On Jan 13, 2008 6:12 AM, Anura Shantha <nrshantha@> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > > I'm Anura and I'm sri lankan.I'm interested about the
simputer.And
> I want
> > > to know about it.I wish to get a simputer.If you can help to me
to
> get a
> > > simputer it is great help to me . Thank you very much.
> > >
> > > Send instant messages to your online friends
> http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
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>

I wish to know the working of Simputer and how internet can be accessed

I bought the strongArm 1110 based Simputer some four years ago.
�
Where can I down load the tol chain suitable for that version of hardware?
�
IS there a repository of sample codes and sample applications, steps to compile
an application so that the startups can benefit from it?
�
Thanks
�
NATARAJAN
�


--- On Fri, 10/3/08, M.P. Lokanath <lokanathmp@...> wrote:

From: M.P. Lokanath <lokanathmp@...>
Subject: [simputer] Hello
To: simputer@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 12:48 AM






I wish to know the working of Simputer and how internet can be accessed

















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

--- In simputer@yahoogroups.com, "afolly_mil2" <afolly_mil2@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Ashraf,
>
> Do the math...
>
> How many would you need to sell every month, and at what profit, to
> break even?

   If you delve deep into this group you would discover that money
never played much of a role in the Simputer. None came forward to take
it up as a shining example of Indian achievement. The Simputer was to
the nascent Indian IT hardware business something like the TATA's
'Nano' is supposed to be for the Indian automotive industry. But
unfortunately the Simputer did not have a TATA behind it. Neither was
the Govt. of India behind it. As some of the people in this group had
held out for. That put paid to the numbers and profit angle of it.

I am sure the Simputer or its successor can make a
> comeback if people want it.  But it should not be a few hundred
> people.  It needs thousands per month to support the infrastructure
> to market and maintain it.

   Not many left who remember the Simputer. About the 'janatha' wanting
it they are quite happy with their 'ipods' and Chinese 'mobiles. Again
if you explore this group you will find very few who seriously
recommended 'marketing' it.

> If you and others really feel there is sufficient need for such a
> device, let's define what we want and find someone to build it!

   As I stated flogging a dead horse ain't gonna make it spring to life
with new vigour. It the wide world of Information Technology if you
miss the bus there ain't no way of getting back on the bus you missed.

> Regards,
>
> Ahmad
>
   Ashraf

>
> --- In simputer@yahoogroups.com, "Khan Md Ashraf" <kmashr@> wrote:
> >
> > I think a lot of people belonging to this group are always hoping
> that
> > the simputer will make a major comeback.
> > What it's creators and marketers never caught on to or cared about
> was
> > that it was a dream come true for a lot of Indians like me.
> > But as is wont in this country the best can simply fail because the
> > people behind it gave up too soon and too easily.
> > They were happy to ape what came from the west better still not even
> > build on our ability to be as good as if not better than the west.
> > To me one shining example of it is our ISRO, they never gave up.
> Today
> > they have proved that they are as capable if not better than the
> rest
> > of the world.
> >
> > The reason the Simputer turned out to be a dead duck was because the
> > all too easy 'we give up' attitude sprung up to kill it.
> > I don't care if it sold or not outside of our borders, it was meant
> > for India and Indians and without a doubt would have improved with
> > time. I don't care what the west or anybody else said about it too.
> >
> > We also should realise that most Indians really care nothing much
> for
> > India as can be seen from the goings on in Maharashtra. In less that
> > 100 years we are likely to revert back to the hodge podge of states
> > and fiefs we were before the British dragged together a country out
> of
> >  all of them called India
> >
> > Ashraf
> > --- In simputer@yahoogroups.com, sridhar G <sosreeus@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Is some one from Simputer hearing about this? I too wonder why don
> > you have a proper marketing channel to deal this? After all even
> > flowers/Agarbathis are selling online. We claim ourself as too techy
> > not even providing online payment access. What is that really
> stoping?
> > >
> > > Satish Jha <satish.jha@> wrote:          Anura,
> > >
> > > What is it about a device that does not have even a few thousand
> > pieces in
> > > production in 8 years that keeps people coming back to it and yet
> > does not
> > > reflect in anything else like growing sales (did they really
> > start?).. In
> > > the world of PCs and its substitutes, if a product does not hit a
> > million in
> > > year 1, its considered dead by the market.. What do you think
> keeps
> > the myth
> > > of simputer alive and kicking?
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >
> > > On Jan 13, 2008 6:12 AM, Anura Shantha <nrshantha@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I'm Anura and I'm sri lankan.I'm interested about the
> simputer.And
> > I want
> > > > to know about it.I wish to get a simputer.If you can help to me
> to
> > get a
> > > > simputer it is great help to me . Thank you very much.
> > > >
> > > > Send instant messages to your online friends
> > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > _________________________________
> > > http://www.linkedin.com/myprofile?trk=tab_pro
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > Never miss a thing.   Make Yahoo your homepage.
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>

Hi
�
i wish to know what are the latest in Simputer?
�
Simputer was a great product some four years ago.
�
I am not sure if there is any new platform (Understand StrongArm 1110 based
discontinued.
�
It was well supported. Problem is� they do not publicize it...
�
It should be reacheable with an internet search..............
If you want to take this for an eval board,� the price is utterly low for its
content.
�
They have great staff at Bangalore who supported customers with a smile.
�
The product placement is Ameturish..... A good product without proper placement
and
publicity that it deserved.
�
A unique eval Board neatly pachaged and sold for a SONG� would be appropriate
market slogan.
�
�
Nataraj

--- On Fri, 9/26/08, afolly_mil2 <afolly_mil2@...> wrote:

From: afolly_mil2 <afolly_mil2@...>
Subject: [simputer] Re: simputers in Chhattisgarh
To: simputer@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 6:29 PM






I wonder if there is any need for Simputers any more. If there was,
then wouldn't they be selling?

Puzzled,

Ahmad

--- In simputer@yahoogroup s.com, Soumyanath Chatterjee <souchatt@.. .>
wrote:
>
> Hi Anupama,
>
> Simputers are handheld computer running on battery. So these should
be
> convenient for capturing data at the point of action. More over
these are
> immune to power cuts.
>
> Frankly, now we should have a version of simputer with wireless
> connectivity with Wifi. and choice of CDMA/GSM-GPRS.
>
>
> Best regards
>
>
>

> Soumyanath Chatterjee
IBM
>

> SAP-AM-BW Consultant / Ericsson Account . souchatt@...
> Signum ID:
XBMSOCH
>

> ( Telephone :+91-33-4009 3656 + IBM India Pvt.
Ltd.
> ( Cellular :+91-98318 04223 BCS SL*-6A-
075
> X 1-7 Block
EP/GP
> Sector �" V Salt
Lake
> Kolkata 700
091
>
INDIA
>

>
>
>
>
>
>

> "gemprex"

>
<anupama66@rediff
>
mail.com> To
> Sent by:
simputer@yahoogroup s.com
>
simputer@yahoogro cc
>
ups.com
>
Subject
> [simputer] simputers
in
> 06/25/2008 08:59
Chhattisgarh
>
PM
>

>

> Please respond
to
>
simputer@yahoogro
>
ups.com
>

>

>
>
>
>
>

>

>

>

>

>
Hi

> we are engaged in a study on " Gender Evaluation of E -Gram
Suraj
> scheme of chhattisgarh , India" .The simputers are used in
the
> scheme. Recently we have carried out a survey in 64
gram
>
panchayatas.

> Many of the Sarpanchas(Heads of the village self governance
unit)
> suggested that it would have been better if Computers would
have
>
been

> provided in place of Simputers. The reasons cited include 1.
The
> computers can be easily repaired at local level 2. Its easy to
get
> an expert of computer at village level 3. the bigger screen
of
>
computer.

>

> we are not technical persons hence we would like to know from
group
> the exact difference between A simputer and a computer and
why
> simputers are considered to be better than computers for
rural
>
setting.

>

> Dr. Anupama
Saxena

> Head, Department of Political
Science
> Guru Ghasidas University, Bilaspur, Chhattisgarh,
India
>
www.ggu.ac.in

>

>

>

>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>


















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

If an effort were mounted to purchase 1MM Simputers, and have them all
shipped to the West over the period of one year, would anyone be
interested in working with the coordinators?

In fact could the producers output the schedule and provide the
support fr such a bold venture. Could terms and underwriting be
arranged? These are the questions. Who can answer them?

ML "Mickey" Hayes
Simputer Evangelist


--- In simputer@yahoogroups.com, sgadhalay@... wrote:
>
> other company are the mundu guys ...
> contact company called . Geodesic  info systems .iin bangalore --in
case you arent able to contact encore technologies.
>
> in my opinion i think the product is dead ..only idea survives
..adopted by many specially the smartphone guys ..
> regards
> Sanjay
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: javid ahmed <erjaved@...>
> Date: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 10:15 am
> Subject: Re: [simputer] Buy a simputer
> To: simputer@yahoogroups.com
>
> > ecil se knotakt karo bhai.
> >  shayad woh log banate hon.
> >  ek aur company hai. but i don;t remembert its name.
> >
> > sridhar G <sosreeus@...> wrote:
> >          Is some one from Simputer hearing about this? I too
> > wonder why don you have a proper marketing channel to deal this?
> > After all even flowers/Agarbathis are selling online. We claim
> > ourself as too techy not even providing online payment access.
What
> > is that really stoping?
> >
> > Satish Jha <satish.jha@...> wrote: Anura,
> >
> > What is it about a device that does not have even a few thousand
> > pieces in
> > production in 8 years that keeps people coming back to it and yet
> > does not
> > reflect in anything else like growing sales (did they really
> > start?).. In
> > the world of PCs and its substitutes, if a product does not hit a
> > million in
> > year 1, its considered dead by the market.. What do you think
keeps
> > the myth
> > of simputer alive and kicking?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > On Jan 13, 2008 6:12 AM, Anura Shantha <nrshantha@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > > I'm Anura and I'm sri lankan.I'm interested about the
> > simputer.And I want
> > > to know about it.I wish to get a simputer.If you can help to me
> > to get a
> > > simputer it is great help to me . Thank you very much.
> > >
> > > Send instant messages to your online friends
> > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com>
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > _________________________________
> > http://www.linkedin.com/myprofile?trk=tab_pro
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Never miss a thing.   Make Yahoo your homepage.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
> Warm regards ,
>
> Sanjay Gadhalay
> Managing Consultant and COO
>
>
>
> THE HIGHEST AWARD FOR A MANS TOIL IS NOT WHAT HE GETS FOR IT BUT
WHAT HE
> BECOMES BY IT - JOHN RUSKIN
>
> 71 AWHO Colony Sector A  Secunderabad .India  500009
> Mobile: +(91)98494 54569    Telefax: +(91) 4027842607
Email:sgadhalay@...
>

Back in 2001 when I first heard of the Simputer, I asked a question
that was never replied to by anyone with the capability of producing
Simputers. That question had to do with the open product license
scheme and why it was prejudiced against Western interests in
supporting the Simputer development.

It wasn't long before the well capitalized West began to produce so
called competitive products to the Simputer. Slowly over the years,
they simply out classed the Simputer efforts to the point that now
there are questions w\regards to the need for the Simputer.

Of course there is still a need. This planet is not connected. As a
result all to often we (humanity) resorts to violence as a policy of
interaction with people we don't know or are not regularly
communicating with. The role of the Simputer is to give more people
the ability to communicate effectively.

The mechanics of communication are widely misunderstood. When we talk,
we take for granted that the air will transmit our voice to the ears
of our audience. In the virtual visual world of computer
communications, the mouth and the ear are nodes (Much like PCs and
PDAs). All of the behind the scenes stuff that goes in forming a
thought to be spoken is equivalent to what happens in the multitudes
of computing centers at the thousands of the Internet servers
globally. Simputers, were designed to overcome the lack of
center\server density in most of the Third World.

Simputer was envisioned as a new form of end point, and it was
announced as a stand-alone device that could be shared amongst many to
assist the vast majority of people who are illiterate on this planet
communicate with each other and the literate. This was good economics,
but it took back seat to questions that now need to be addressed.

The Open Source Product License is a good idea w\the exception to
regional restrictions that inhibit Western adoption. OSPL is still a
GOOD IDEA, but just like any other artificial tax or tariff, the $100K
USD licensing price tag for licensing in the West opened the door for
competitors to take the initiative to change the basic premise. OLPC
is what you get when you let someone take your ball and play with it
in their yard.

Globally, what is needed is 'One Simputer Per Family.'

The way to get what we need is to consider how to join up with
minority interests in the West (specifically in the USA) who have both
the experience and the ambition to manufacture Simputers (and if not,
assemble them . . .); in vast quantities from parts shipped to North
America from various Simputer component manufacturing nations in the
developing world. This strategy allows the Western interests to sell
Simputer as a product that is competitive in the West and utilizes the
dynamics of a seasoned and potent information technology marketing
mechanism to promote the product throughout the West.

Who cares if they (competitors) call it a toy if it works and people
buy it because they can use it the same way as anybody in Calcuta
might? You forget that relative posperity doesn't translate to actual
affluence when all that separate people is geography. As an education
tool, the Simputer would help to unleash the energies of millions of
North Americans who are as illeterate as anyone someplace else on the
planet.

The illiterate of the West may have more disposable income than their
counterparts in the rest of the world; but that isn't significant in
light of the expense of resources available to them to lift themselves
out of poverty. We have to begin with opportunity where it exist.

Adoption of the Simputer in the West by the poor and illiterate could
assure a consistent market for the device components and drive
adoption in East and South where domestic production could be
sustained by replication of the US efforts. Another way of putting it
would be, "you must sell where people buy despite the fact that what
you are selling is so new that people have difficulty understanding
the utility and value of your proposition."

Simputer is to OLPC what bricks are to space flight. Only remotely
associated if at all. Simputer started out as a purposed initiative
for electrifying rural communications at the personal and family
levels. Where did it get off track?

ML "Mickey" Hayes
Simputer Advocate




--- In simputer@yahoogroups.com, "afolly_mil2" <afolly_mil2@...>
wrote:
>
> I wonder if there is any need for Simputers any more.  If there was,
> then wouldn't they be selling?
>
> Puzzled,
>
> Ahmad
>
>
> --- In simputer@yahoogroups.com, Soumyanath Chatterjee <souchatt@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Anupama,
> >
> > Simputers are handheld computer running on battery. So these
should
> be
> > convenient for capturing data at the point of action. More over
> these are
> > immune to power cuts.
> >
> > Frankly, now we should have a version of simputer with wireless
> > connectivity with Wifi. and choice of CDMA/GSM-GPRS.
> >
> > > > Best regards
> >
> >
> >
>
> >  Soumyanath Chatterjee
> IBM
> >
>
> >  SAP-AM-BW Consultant / Ericsson Account        . souchatt@
> >  Signum ID:
> XBMSOCH
> >
>
> >  ( Telephone :+91-33-4009 3656                  + IBM India Pvt.
> Ltd.
> >  ( Cellular :+91-98318 04223                    BCS SL*-6A-
> 075
> >                                                 X 1-7 Block
> EP/GP
> >                                                 Sector �" V Salt
> Lake
> >                                                 Kolkata 700
> 091
> >
> INDIA
> >
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> >              "gemprex"
>
> >
> <anupama66@rediff
> >
> mail.com>                                                  To
> >              Sent by:
> simputer@yahoogroups.com
> >
> simputer@yahoogro                                          cc
> >
> ups.com
> >
> Subject
> >                                        [simputer] simputers
> in
> >              06/25/2008 08:59
> Chhattisgarh
> >
> PM
> >
>
> >
>
> >              Please respond
> to
> >
> simputer@yahoogro
> >
> ups.com
> >
>
> >
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
> Hi
>
> >  we are engaged in a study on " Gender Evaluation of E -Gram
> Suraj
> >  scheme of chhattisgarh , India" .The simputers are used in
> the
> >  scheme. Recently we have carried out a survey in 64
> gram
> >
> panchayatas.
>
> >  Many of the Sarpanchas(Heads of the village self governance
> unit)
> >  suggested that it would have been better if Computers would
> have
> >
> been
>
> >  provided in place of Simputers. The reasons cited include 1.
> The
> >  computers can be easily repaired at local level 2. Its easy to
> get
> >  an expert of computer at village level 3. the bigger screen
> of
> >
> computer.
>
> >
>
> >  we are not technical persons hence we would like to know from
> group
> >  the exact difference between A simputer and a computer and
> why
> >  simputers are considered to be better than computers for
> rural
> >
> setting.
>
> >
>
> >  Dr. Anupama
> Saxena
>
> >  Head, Department of Political
> Science
> >  Guru Ghasidas University, Bilaspur, Chhattisgarh,
> India
> >
> www.ggu.ac.in
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Whatever Simputer promised and a lot more is available on OLPC for a price
that is a third of Simputer.
At least Fred has had a first hand opportunity to see it and it will be
helpful if he can post his thoughts here..



On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:15 AM, afolly_mil2 <afolly_mil2@...> wrote:

>  ,_._,___
>



--
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i bought one simputer. i am very happy.

Subsequently i bought some cinese product...an eval board for a price aroud nine
K. I gt just no help anywhere what soever...

One need not spend exotic boxes. One solution could be use some standard box
products� available in the market but nt special toooling....

A good support for newer simputer without specially designed enclosure is both a
possibility and feasible to do.

Support qualityshould be good. newer products should always be in the market
with good support...

Nat
--- On Thu, 10/23/08, Khan Md Ashraf <kmashr@...> wrote:
From: Khan Md Ashraf <kmashr@...>
Subject: [simputer] Re: Buy a simputer
To: simputer@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 11:09 PM











             --- In simputer@yahoogroup s.com, "afolly_mil2" <afolly_mil2@ ...>
wrote:

>

> Hi Ashraf,

>

> Do the math...

>

> How many would you need to sell every month, and at what profit, to

> break even?



   If you delve deep into this group you would discover that money

never played much of a role in the Simputer. None came forward to take

it up as a shining example of Indian achievement. The Simputer was to

the nascent Indian IT hardware business something like the TATA's

'Nano' is supposed to be for the Indian automotive industry. But

unfortunately the Simputer did not have a TATA behind it. Neither was

the Govt. of India behind it. As some of the people in this group had

held out for. That put paid to the numbers and profit angle of it.



I am sure the Simputer or its successor can make a

> comeback if people want it.  But it should not be a few hundred

> people.  It needs thousands per month to support the infrastructure

> to market and maintain it.



   Not many left who remember the Simputer. About the 'janatha' wanting

it they are quite happy with their 'ipods' and Chinese 'mobiles. Again

if you explore this group you will find very few who seriously

recommended 'marketing' it.



> If you and others really feel there is sufficient need for such a

> device, let's define what we want and find someone to build it!



   As I stated flogging a dead horse ain't gonna make it spring to life

with new vigour. It the wide world of Information Technology if you

miss the bus there ain't no way of getting back on the bus you missed.



> Regards,

>

> Ahmad

>

   Ashraf



>

> --- In simputer@yahoogroup s.com, "Khan Md Ashraf" <kmashr@> wrote:

> >

> > I think a lot of people belonging to this group are always hoping

> that

> > the simputer will make a major comeback.

> > What it's creators and marketers never caught on to or cared about

> was

> > that it was a dream come true for a lot of Indians like me.

> > But as is wont in this country the best can simply fail because the

> > people behind it gave up too soon and too easily.

> > They were happy to ape what came from the west better still not even

> > build on our ability to be as good as if not better than the west.

> > To me one shining example of it is our ISRO, they never gave up.

> Today

> > they have proved that they are as capable if not better than the

> rest

> > of the world.

> >

> > The reason the Simputer turned out to be a dead duck was because the

> > all too easy 'we give up' attitude sprung up to kill it.

> > I don't care if it sold or not outside of our borders, it was meant

> > for India and Indians and without a doubt would have improved with

> > time. I don't care what the west or anybody else said about it too.

> >

> > We also should realise that most Indians really care nothing much

> for

> > India as can be seen from the goings on in Maharashtra. In less that

> > 100 years we are likely to revert back to the hodge podge of states

> > and fiefs we were before the British dragged together a country out

> of

> >  all of them called India

> >

> > Ashraf

> > --- In simputer@yahoogroup s.com, sridhar G <sosreeus@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Is some one from Simputer hearing about this? I too wonder why don

> > you have a proper marketing channel to deal this? After all even

> > flowers/Agarbathis are selling online. We claim ourself as too techy

> > not even providing online payment access. What is that really

> stoping?

> > >

> > > Satish Jha <satish.jha@ > wrote:          Anura,

> > >

> > > What is it about a device that does not have even a few thousand

> > pieces in

> > > production in 8 years that keeps people coming back to it and yet

> > does not

> > > reflect in anything else like growing sales (did they really

> > start?).. In

> > > the world of PCs and its substitutes, if a product does not hit a

> > million in

> > > year 1, its considered dead by the market.. What do you think

> keeps

> > the myth

> > > of simputer alive and kicking?

> > >

> > > thanks

> > >

> > > On Jan 13, 2008 6:12 AM, Anura Shantha <nrshantha@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > > I'm Anura and I'm sri lankan.I'm interested about the

> simputer.And

> > I want

> > > > to know about it.I wish to get a simputer.If you can help to me

> to

> > get a

> > > > simputer it is great help to me . Thank you very much.

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previous poster wrote:-
>  If you delve deep into this group you would discover that money
> never played much of a role in the Simputer. None came forward to take
> it up as a shining example of Indian achievement. The Simputer was to
> the nascent Indian IT hardware business something like the TATA's
> 'Nano' is supposed to be for the Indian automotive industry. But
> unfortunately the Simputer did not have a TATA behind it. Neither was
> the Govt. of India behind it. As some of the people in this group had
> held out for. That put paid to the numbers and profit angle of it.
>
How can you expect the simputer [project] to succeed, when
the mailing list is a failure.  The mailing list is 'your' first
appearance to the global technically competent community.

Competent mail-lists don't use sequencial top posting, like
the girly who bought her box last week at Wallmart and
just goes the default WinTel way.

The mail-list should reflect the 'spirit' of simputer:

1. use linux style - not M$loth top posting;

2. use minimal resource style - post plain text only, with
   no mime or html-format crap.
--------
IMO simputer should [have] emphasised to aspects:

1. Low power and operability with no mains access.
   How many of YOU ever operated from a remote village ?

2. The CF makes the one-simputer-per-'community' potentialy
    very cost effective.   It's not made for yuppy-hackers, but
   you must get their support, eg. by first having a competent
   mail-list.


== Chris Glur.

Your driving licence smart card is dumb!
5 Mar 2009, 0212 hrs IST, TNN

Ahmedabad : No more middle-of-road arguments, no more frayed tempers.
Just a swipe of the smart card and traffic offenders are booked for
good!

Well, this dream is still at least six months far from reality. The
smart driving licence card which bears a 4 KB chip is not so smart,
yet. The reason: Lackadaisical attitude of Ahmedabad traffic police
and Regional Transport Office (RTO), with each passing the buck to the
other.

Meanwhile, lax traffic regulations have only emboldened offenders. ATP
has 32 simputer units which will empower cops by giving them all
relevant information about offenders. But, data hasn't come forth from
RTO so far and simputers are gathering dust in ATP's godowns.

According to a senior city police official, the smart card project was
launched way back in 2004 and RTOs across the nation started issuing
smart cards instead of the usual driving licences.

Fifty smart cards are issued daily in Ahmedabad alone, says a senior
RTO official of the city. RTO charges Rs 250 for the card, of which Rs
50 is licence fee and Rs 200 is price of the card equipped with data
chip.

"A software to streamline data collected by RTO was being worked on.
But three years after initiation, it's yet to be updated," says a
traffic branch official.

Atul Gor, Ahmedabad regional transport officer, told TOI that
digitisation of data is underway and the department is working in
close coordination with the traffic branch.

A senior traffic branch official said, "We have repeatedly approached
RTO officials for software solution but to no avail. RTO officials get
transferred frequently. Nobody has actually followed it up."

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BC survey is a mammoth task
By Satish Shile, DH News Service, Bangalore:


  Conducting the socio-economic survey of backward classes in Karnataka
is a herculean task. The total number of households to be covered is
1.2 crore and the staff required is 85,000. The Karnataka State
Commission for Backward Classes has plans to conduct the survey in
April-May next year. But, when it comes to preparations for the
survey, the commission is still has a long way to go.

The Central government decided to conduct a socio-economic survey of
backward classes in the country in 2005.
The Centre selected Karnataka for the pilot survey. It also earmarked
Rs 21.5 crore for the purpose. During the Congress-JD(S) coalition
rule the State government allocated its share of Rs 2 crore for the
purpose. However, the survey process did not start as the commission
was not in place for more than a year.

During the rule of the JD(S)-BJP coalition, the commission was
reconstituted under the chairmanship of Dr C S Dwarakanath.

Choosing model

The first and major task before the commission is to decide which
model they have to follow to record data collected from each
household. Simputer, a hand-held computer, was the first choice of the
commission. A proposal was sent to the government seeking its
permission to purchase 30,000 simputers.

Each simputer costs around Rs 8,400 which would amount to Rs 25 crore.
The Finance Department raised objections to purchase of simputers and
asked the commission to rethink before going for simputers.
L S Srinivasa, Deputy Director (Statistics) in the Commission, said
that in the general population census the procedure followed to record
data was ICR (Intelligent Character Recognition).

Under this system data was calculated on white paper which would be
scanned and tabulated with the help of computers.

The total amount of paper required to achieve this task would be over
400 MT, means 40 truck load of paper. It would be a difficult task to
safeguard the records. The commission might have to hire a big
choultry to keep the records alone.

Different options

Another option before the commission is to tie-up with regional
computer centres run by KEONICS (Karnataka State Electronics
Development Corporation Limited) or those set up under Mahiti Sindhu
scheme. Enumerators have to report to the centres everyday after the
survey. Technicians will enter the data, which in turn will be
uploaded to the main server.

“For the effective implementation of this method we need to have
broadband internet connection in rural areas. Otherwise it is
difficult to upload the data to the main server”, Srinivasa said. The
Commission Chairman Dwarakanath said that the State government has to
convene a meeting of Principal Secretaries of Rural Development and
Panchayat Raj, Education, Statistics, Revenue and Home departments to
prepare calendar of events of the survey.

A draft schedule of indicators has been prepared. It consists 65
questions and some more would be added. At least 20 minutes are
required to record data of each household with the help of a simputer.
However, the government has to decide which method to follow. A senior
officer in the Commission said if the Central Election Commission
decides to hold elections for Lok Sabha in April-May, the survey
process would be delayed further.

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Special drive to collect pending e-challans

Staff Reporter

Fifty simputers being acquired for the purpose

HYDERABAD: With over seven lakh out of the 11 lakh e-challans issued
for traffic rule violations unpaid by the vehicle owners, the
Hyderabad traffic police on Tuesday began a special drive to collect
them.

Fifty Programmable Device Applications (PDAs) - also known as
simputers or hand-held computers - with the entire data of e-challans
issued so far fed into them were being acquired for this with a cost
of Rs. 10 lakh, Traffic Police Additional Commissioner N.V. Surendra
Babu said. The special drive became inevitable as the un-paid
e-challans rose sharply and the vehicle owners might get an impression
that no action would be taken if the e-challans were not paid, he
said. Police had already acquired six PDAs. The special drive would be
conducted at different places across the city by inspecting vehicles
at random. If the number of the intercepted vehicle is fed into the
PDA, it would display details of the earlier e-challans issued. Along
with them, e-challan would be issued for any fresh violation like not
wearing seat-belt or speaking over mobile phone while driving.

If the vehicle owner pays the fine amounts of all challans immediately
at the close-by e-Seva centre, the vehicle would be released.
Otherwise, the police would detain the vehicle, retain the vehicle
documents and issue a receipt. “The vehicle can be collected later
whenever the fine amounts are paid,” Mr. Surendra Babu explained. The
pending nine lakh odd e-challans were issued against 4.25 lakh
challans.

The Additional CP maintained that they collected fine amounts from
vehicle owners who were issued several e-challans by tracing their
addresses. But it would be difficult and waste of resources to track
each and every vehicle that was issued one or two e-challans, and
hence the system of inspecting vehicles using PDAs was being
introduced.

Beginning the special drive soon after the press conference, Mr.
Surendra Babu intercepted a Maruti Zen vehicle outside his office and
found that vehicle was already issued three e-challans. Driver of the
car, Mohd. Ghouse, paid the total fine amounts. The Additional CP said
the traffic police would exhibit two to three minute duration short
films on traffic rule violations in local film theatres. It would also
exhibit animated films of 10 to 15 seconds duration as part of traffic
rule awareness campaign.

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State government to undertake crop survey
by RAMNATH RAIKAR
Posted on 2009-01-23

PANAJI � The government, following the concern expressed by the Task
Force entrusted to prepare the draft Regional Plan 2021 as regards
rampant conversions of agricultural lands into commercial ones, has
decided to undertake state crop survey, at the earliest.
The Collector (North Goa), Mr Mihir Vardhan speaking to �The Navhind
Times� on Thursday said that the said survey, which would be carried
out by the department of revenue, will provide an �important
fundamental statistics� to the government, about the agricultural
details in Goa. �Such survey was a regular feature until 1986 when it
was suddenly stopped,� he added.
Speaking further, Mr Vardhan informed that the survey would be carried
out from the point of view of the revenue department and would include
implementation of legislations pertaining to the agricultural lands,
actual utility of agricultural land by the registered tenants, records
of right as regards agricultural land, and so on. �The study will
further identify the farmers growing crops, the type of crops
cultivated by them, the amount of crops, etc, besides the size of dry
land, wet land and cultivable fallow land in the state,� he pointed
out.
The proposal to undertake this survey has been already approved by the
government Mr Vardhan said adding that special handheld electronic
devices called Simputers would be procured by the government for
carrying out the survey.
Simputer, an acronym for �simple, inexpensive and multilingual
people�s computer�, is a self-contained, open hardware handheld
computer designed for use in environments where computing devices such
as personal computers are deemed inappropriate.
Simputers worth Rs 29 lakh would be bought by the government for the
survey. Meanwhile, 194 talathis from the state would be entrusted with
the task of carrying out the survey and will have to go on the field
for which they would receive an additional honorarium of Rs 2,000 per
month.
Mr Vardhan stated that the information collected in the simputers in
the form of electronic data would then be uploaded in the computer,
which in turn would automatically be added to the form XIV. �The form
XIV would therefore be updated as regards status of the agricultural
land, mode of irrigation, crops cultivated and so on,� he maintained.
�The survey would start from the next monsoon crop,� Mr Vardhan
concluded. The survey would also help a scheme recently approved by
the Board of Directors of the Goa State Horticulture Development
Corporation (GSHDC) which aims to bring fallow land under cultivation.
The scheme allows the GSHDC to take fallow land on lease from a
willing landlord and then lease it out to NGO or a group on contract
for ten years; ideally, a group or an NGO having to identify fallow
land in the village and a willing landowner.
Meanwhile, the data made available in the book �Aspects of the
Agricultural Activity, in Goa, Daman and Diu�, published by the
government in the year 1967, informs, �The district of Goa with a
total area of 3,61,114 Ha has about 90.4 per cent of the area that is
3,26,672 Ha utilised for agricultural purpose.�
The book, making available facts about agriculture in Goa immediately
after Liberation of the region from the colonial rule states, �Besides
these 3,26,672 Ha it may be noted that there is also a vast land known
as �logradouro comum� occupying an area of 1,304 Ha and which is used
as pasture lands, cemeteries and crematories. This area is generally
situated on hill sides where the pasture grows as a gift from the
nature.� �The distribution of agricultural area in Goa includes 68,480
Ha (20.96 per cent) for food crops like paddy and khusky, and 60,450
Ha (18.51 per cent) for tree crops such as coconut, cashew, areca nut,
sugar cane, bamboo plantation and fruits,� the book informs pointing
out, �the forest area in Goa is 1,05,295 Ha (32.29 per cent),
cultivable fallow land is 92,367 Ha (28.28 per cent) and garden crops
as well as flower garden/ vegetables cover 79 Ha area (0.02 per
cent).�
However, the agricultural scenario in Goa at the time of Liberation
has undergone a sea change by 2009 with the number of people involved
in agriculture having come down from 64 to 16 per cent. Presently
talukas like Sattari, Pernem, Bardez, Tiswadi, Ponda, Salcete, Quepem,
Sanguem and Canacona have paddy fields and plantations of various tree
crops but the produce has drastically reduced as per the information
provided by the agricultural department.

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e-banking facility in rural Balangir soon

Express News Service

First Published : 04 Nov 2008 12:00:00 AM IST
Last Updated : 04 Nov 2008 11:52:45 AM IST

BALANGIR: The advent of technology is all set to re-define the concept
of banking in inaccessible areas. In a revolutionary step, Nabard
would be introducing, as part of its pilot project, e-banking systems
in Balangir district to cover vulnerable groups and the poor people
living in remote areas.

A Delhi-based organisation SAMPTECH Info-net has been assigned with
providing the technical support. Nabard District Development Manager
(DDM) Artatrana Panigrahi said SAMPTECH will provide all technical
support.

‘‘It has been asked to develop an exclusive software to deal with the
typical applications in the banking systems we are introducing,’’ said
the DDM.

There will be business correspondents and business facilitators, who
will go to the houses of villagers carrying a Simputer.

This is a wireless device, which will contain all information of the
customers. The information can be accessed only when the customers put
their thumb impression.

SAMPTECH’s own network will facilitate linkage with the Simputers,
whereby the supporting banks like UGB and DCCB will get to know the
details once it is stored in the system. This system is part of the
Financial Inclusion (FI) concept, which came to light after C
Rangarajan report,which recommended inclusion of the poor in banking
system to ensure financial services at affordable cost. DDM said under
FI technical fund of Rs 500 crore,which will be contributed by RBI,
the State Government and Nabard, some innovative techniques will be
introduced to facilitate people to open bank account with zero
balance, get credits and insurance without coming to banks. ‘‘In the
poorest district like Balangir,where 75 per cent of total population
doesn’t have access to banks although there are many rural banks, the
new system is expected to create a revolution,’’ said Panigrahi.

The villagers will be provided with smart cards. There will be mobile
ATMs at weekly markets.

In another step, Panigrahy said, villagers, who get wages from NREGS,
will not be given cheques and asked to come to town to deposit in
banks and en-cash it.

Their money will be straightaway deposited in banks through Simputer
and they will be given a receipt.

‘‘Anganwadi workers have been entrusted with survey works.

They will visit every household in rural areas to collect data. The
project is expected to kick off in 24 months,’’ said Collector
Kashinath Sahu.

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"God created man, but I could do better." - Erma Bombeck

Geodesic revenue up 115%, PAT 93.23%

Mumbai, Jan 31 : Geodesic Limited, a leading provider of mobile
and desktop solutions for instant messaging, Internet Radio and mobile
VoIP, today announced a 115 per cent increase in its third quarter
revenue at Rupees 191.07 crore with a net profit soaring by 93.23 per
cent atRupees 83.70 crore.

Announcing the results, the company in a release here said the Board
has approved the proposal of buyback company's USD denominated Zero
Coupon Convertible Bonds.

The Board has also approved the proposal to buyback of 25 per cent of
the equity capital of the company through open offer through stock
exchanges.

During the third quarter, Geodesic signed a teaming agreement with ITI
Limited to promote Video/Voice over IP on desktops, IP phones, mobile
phones and Amida10K Simputer to cater to various state government
e-Governance projects in India.

Glodyne Technoserve Limited and Geodesic Limited have signed a teaming
agreement to include Geodesic’s Amida 10K Simputer as part of
Glodyne’s solution for Public Distribution System for various states
in India.

Chandamama India Limited (Chandamama), a subsidiary of the Company had
a rights issue of 36,95,325 equity shares of Rs ten each at par and
the same was subscribed 95.53 per cent.

Chandamama launched Ramayana by Swami Sukhabodananda, which signifies
that for the first time the Ramayana is being published in an
illustrated book format as a single book.

Chandamama has also signed an MoU with Technopark based Toonz
Animation India Pvt. Limited, for producing a 70 minute, full-length
animated feature film.

Geodesic Holdings Limited, wholly owned subsidiary of Geodesic
Limited, has signed a Share Purchase Agreement to acquire 100 per cent
of a privately held software company, headquartered in Uruguay.

The company focused on developing advanced instant messaging solutions
for Telcos and have implemented their solution across 12 carriers in
Latin America, South Africa and Asia.

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back in." - Will Rogers

Vijay Chandru the Simputer man
The Simputer is a self-contained, open hardware handheld computer,
designed for use in environments where computing devices such as
personal computers are deemed inappropriate. Due to the low cost, it
was also deemed appropriate to bring computing power to the developing
countries. One of the original team of seven inventors of the
Simputer, Dr Chandru talks about what challenges it faced, and his new
work in genomics. For Simputer related info see
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simputer]
VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLxJ4NSzzLY

The chicken and egg of the bandwidth story in India....
Why is costly to store data in India? Why does this make it even more
costly, as data flees India and finds cheaper options elsewhere?
Techie Tarun Dua talks about his conception of the problem, and what
could be a solution for it.
VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9SHcelYtnM

In this month's Educational Technology Debate, Kentaro Toyama a ex-director of
Microsoft Research India, has delivered an opus on why significant investments
in computers, mobile phones, and other electronic gadgets in education are
neither necessary nor warranted for most school systems.


-  There Are No Technology Shortcuts to Good Education
-  http://edutechdebate.org/


In particular, he argues that the attempt to use technology to fix
underperforming classrooms (or to replace non-existent ones) is futile. And, for
all but wealthy, well-run schools, one-to-one computer programs cannot be
recommended in good conscience.

Wayan