Your profile has been added to my personal space! Check my space here:
http://vshdhdhf.zoomshare.com/files/myspace.htm

I created this cool friends network and added you to my friends network. Hit-up
now:
http://claudioct.zoomshare.com/files/newmessage.htm

You have 1 new message! Check the new message here:
http://babacknt.zoomshare.com/files/newmessage.htm

dear G Raza, it can be done but only after a large scale consensus.
still there are only few voices.

Is this 'sign' available in Unicode, especially in Arabic/ Middle
Eastern script> see http://unicode.org/

regards
Rizwan


--- In siraikicomputing@yahoogroups.com, Gee Raza <geeraza@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for new fonts.
>
> A new form of "waDDi  ye when it is in between other letters in a
word" is proposed.
> See the attached document.
> Please after having necessary consensus make it possible to type
this form by keyboard while composing Seraiki text.
>
> Best Regards- G. Raza
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: rizwancontact <rizwancontact@...>
> To: siraikicomputing@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2008 12:44:15 PM
> Subject: [siraikicomputing] new skr fonts
>
>                 New Seraiki/Saraiki fonts available. see:
> http://seraikifonts .sourceforge. net/
>
>
>
>
> <!--
>
> #ygrp-mkp{
> border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px
0px;padding:0px 14px;}
> #ygrp-mkp hr{
> border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}
> #ygrp-mkp #hd{
>
color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line-height:122%;margin:10px
0px;}
> #ygrp-mkp #ads{
> margin-bottom:10px;}
> #ygrp-mkp .ad{
> padding:0 0;}
> #ygrp-mkp .ad a{
> color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;}
> -->
>
> <!--
>
> #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{
> font-family:Arial;}
> #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{
> margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}
> #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{
> margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}
> -->
>
> <!--
>
>  #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean,
sans-serif;}
> #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;}
> #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica,
clean, sans-serif;}
> #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;}
> #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;}
> #ygrp-text{
> font-family:Georgia;
> }
> #ygrp-text p{
> margin:0 0 1em 0;}
> #ygrp-tpmsgs{
> font-family:Arial;
> clear:both;}
> #ygrp-vitnav{
> padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;}
> #ygrp-vitnav a{
> padding:0 1px;}
> #ygrp-actbar{
> clear:both;margin:25px
0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;}
> #ygrp-actbar .left{
> float:left;white-space:nowrap;}
> .bld{font-weight:bold;}
> #ygrp-grft{
> font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;}
> #ygrp-ft{
> font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666;
> padding:5px 0;
> }
> #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{
> padding-bottom:10px;}
>
> #ygrp-reco {
> margin-bottom:20px;padding:0px;}
> #ygrp-reco #reco-head {
> font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;}
>
> #reco-grpname{
> font-weight:bold;margin-top:10px;}
> #reco-category{
> font-size:77%;}
> #reco-desc{
> font-size:77%;}
>
> #ygrp-vital{
> background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;}
> #ygrp-vital #vithd{
>
font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text-transform:upp\
ercase;}
> #ygrp-vital ul{
> padding:0;margin:2px 0;}
> #ygrp-vital ul li{
> list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee;
> }
> #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{
>
font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text-align:right;padding-ri\
ght:.5em;}
> #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{
> font-weight:bold;}
> #ygrp-vital a{
> text-decoration:none;}
>
> #ygrp-vital a:hover{
> text-decoration:underline;}
>
> #ygrp-sponsor #hd{
> color:#999;font-size:77%;}
> #ygrp-sponsor #ov{
> padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;}
> #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{
> padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;}
> #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{
> list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;}
> #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{
> text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;}
> #ygrp-sponsor #nc{
> background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;}
> #ygrp-sponsor .ad{
> padding:8px 0;}
> #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{
>
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font-size:100%;line-height:122%\
;}
> #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{
> text-decoration:none;}
> #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{
> text-decoration:underline;}
> #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{
> margin:0;}
> o{font-size:0;}
> .MsoNormal{
> margin:0 0 0 0;}
> #ygrp-text tt{
> font-size:120%;}
> blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;}
> .replbq{margin:4;}
> -->
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________\
____
> You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of
Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.
> http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com
>

New Seraiki/Saraiki fonts available. see:
http://seraikifonts.sourceforge.net/

Please can any one keep me inform about webs in siraiki Languages.

Zahid Mirani
0344-2184566

please visit this website:
http://www.geocities.com/seraikitec/

rizwan



--- In siraikicomputing@yahoogroups.com, "Zahid Mirani"
<zeem_2002@...> wrote:
>
> I want to konw about siraiki Computing, I want to put a web portal of
> siraiki literature online.
>
> Please visit web portals of
> urdu Language www.kitabeen.com
> Sindhi Language www.sindhikitab.net,
> Just like I want to put web portal of siraiki Language.
>
> Zahid Mirani
>

I want to konw about siraiki Computing, I want to put a web portal of
siraiki literature online.

Please visit web portals of
urdu Language www.kitabeen.com
Sindhi Language www.sindhikitab.net,
Just like I want to put web portal of siraiki Language.

Zahid Mirani

Dear Abdul Rahim Nizamani,

Thank you for your comments on the fonts.

The only specific concern I was able to identify is the position of
the Shadda and Kasra, which are usually combined above the letter for
Arabic, but preferred to be separate, one above and one below the
letter, for Siraiki and other languages.

This issue is now solved in the new VISTA where Microsoft made the
decision to have these two marks positioned above and below the base
letter rather than combined above it. This will be the behavior for
all languages that use the Arabic script, and will be implemented in
all VISTA Arabic core fonts. I believe that we already made this
change for Microsoft Uighur font and a few others.

It will be nice to hear more ideas about what qualities would Siraiki
users want in the fonts they use.

Thanks again,
Mamoun Sakkal
www.sakkal.com

Dear Abdul Rahim Nizamani,

Thank you for your comments on the fonts.

The only specific concern I was able to identify is the position of
the Shadda and Kasra, which are usually combined above the letter for
Arabic, but preferred to be separate, one above and one below the
letter, for Siraiki and other languages.

This issue is now solved in the new VISTA where Microsoft made the
decision to have these two marks positioned above and below the base
letter rather than combined above it. This will be the behavior for
all languages that use the Arabic script, and will be implemented in
all VISTA Arabic core fonts. I believe that we already made this
change for Microsoft Uighur font and a few others.

It will be nice to hear more ideas about what qualities would Siraiki
users want in the fonts they use.

Thanks again,
Mamoun Sakkal
www.sakkal.com

Much thanks for ur strong concern. But I was thinking that that is named after Hazrat Abu-Zar Ghaffari (R.A), a high-graded companion of Holy Prophet (SAWAW). Any way that is also a beautiful name.
Can u please send me some pages of poetry by Abdul Ghaffar Naqshbandi in a file that is readable here where there is support for seraiki language to compose in Microsoft word and also I have Acrobat Writer?

Best Regards- G. Raza

Abdul Rahim Nizamani <ar_niz@yahoo.com> wrote:

Mr. Raza
     You are right that a full unicode font will be better for Siraiki, although that's not compulsory. Siraiki script is based on Urdu script, so a Siraiki font will certainly support Urdu. some Arabic characters must also be included, so Islamic writings can fully utilize that font.
     Moreover, Ghaffari is named after the famous Siraiki poet of recent times, Hazrat Abdul Ghaffar Naqshbandi of Larkana, who was originaly from Multan but later migrated to Larkana, Sindh, to preach Islam and Naqshbandi way. His poetry is based on Love and sufism. Since I'm composing His siraiki poetry and just for that I started research on Siraiki computing and ultimately started this group, I have named the font Ghaffari. But I donot claim it as a separate font. Its actually Scheherazade font. Moreover, its not the default font for Siraiki, rather the most suitable one of all I found. We need another proper Siraiki font, maybe an enhancement of the common Urdu naskh fonts that will suit Siraiki, as well as Urdu. That maybe named as you wish.

Thanks
Abdul Rahim Nizamani


Gee Raza <geeraza@yahoo.com> wrote:

Two things, I want to suggest for fonts

1) If it is possible, please design the fonts such as they can support all languages written in arabic script (these may be about 20)

2) Ghaffari no doubt is good choice for font name but if one font is specific to Seraiki Language or it is designed by some Seraiki Lover then it should be named like ''Lutf'' or ''Fareed'' (two lege legendary poets of Seraiki) or ''Sussi'' or so to reflect Seraiki Moasshrat and Adab.

Best Regard- G. Raza

Abdul Rahim Nizamani <ar_niz@yahoo.com> wrote:

Mr. Mamoun Sakkal,

I have included Arabic Typesetting in the Fonts folder under Files section, but not included its sample text as picture in the photos section. Will add it soon.

I personally use Scheherazade font for typesetting the poetry book of Siraiki I'm currently working on. You can download the sample ebook from the books section of
http://www.islahulmuslimeen.org

Arabic Typesetting is a good font for Urdu/Siraiki scripts, as well as the Majalla UI. But for certain reasons, I chose Scheherazade as it suits the Naskh style. Moreover, this font doesn't use any combination characters from Arabic presentation forms, so its simple.

But I had to change it little bit to suit the Pakistani typography, because it was designed for Arabic script. Although it supports Pakistani languages using opentype tables, using different ligatures of same character for different languages, the Microsoft platform softwares do not support this feature. That is why, I added a little bit features in it, like ligatures Allah, Sallalah Aliah Wassalam, and did some other minor changes. I named the new font Ghaffari (present in files section).

Again for Majalla UI, A.Typesetting and Uighur fonts, I would like to say that there must be language features for different languages in the font rendering. These fonts are designed for Arabic script, and some features of Pakistani languages are not present. For example, the Shadda+Kasra on a character. Both show above the character, although in Pakistani typography Shadda is shown above and Kasra below. This is an opentype feature, so I could not change it in my Ghaffari font.

I will look to your kind help and suggestions for font designing, to have a good Naskh style standard font for Siraiki.

Mamoun Sakkal <mamoun@sakkal.com> wrote:

Thank you for your efforts in this group.

I reviewed the fonts uploaded to the group website and noticed that
Arabic Typesetting is not included among the fonts that support Siraiki.

It will be helpful to font designers like me to know the group members
opinion regarding the design of the above fonts and which ones are
considered more or less successful and why. I am the designer of Arabic
Typesetting, Majalla UI, and MS Uighur and would certainly appreciate
comments on these as well from users of Siraiki viewpoint.

Best wishes,
Mamoun Sakkal
www.sakkal.com

---

8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time
with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut.

---

It's here! Your new message!
Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar.

---

Never miss an email again!
Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out.

---

Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and
always stay connected to friends.

---

We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love
(and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list.

Mr. Raza
     You are right that a full unicode font will be better for Siraiki, although that's not compulsory. Siraiki script is based on Urdu script, so a Siraiki font will certainly support Urdu. some Arabic characters must also be included, so Islamic writings can fully utilize that font.
     Moreover, Ghaffari is named after the famous Siraiki poet of recent times, Hazrat Abdul Ghaffar Naqshbandi of Larkana, who was originaly from Multan but later migrated to Larkana, Sindh, to preach Islam and Naqshbandi way. His poetry is based on Love and sufism. Since I'm composing His siraiki poetry and just for that I started research on Siraiki computing and ultimately started this group, I have named the font Ghaffari. But I donot claim it as a separate font. Its actually Scheherazade font. Moreover, its not the default font for Siraiki, rather the most suitable one of all I found. We need another proper Siraiki font, maybe an enhancement of the common Urdu naskh fonts that will suit Siraiki, as well as Urdu. That maybe named as you wish.

Thanks
Abdul Rahim Nizamani


Gee Raza <geeraza@yahoo.com> wrote:

Two things, I want to suggest for fonts

1) If it is possible, please design the fonts such as they can support all languages written in arabic script (these may be about 20)

2) Ghaffari no doubt is good choice for font name but if one font is specific to Seraiki Language or it is designed by some Seraiki Lover then it should be named like ''Lutf'' or ''Fareed'' (two lege legendary poets of Seraiki) or ''Sussi'' or so to reflect Seraiki Moasshrat and Adab.

Best Regard- G. Raza

Abdul Rahim Nizamani <ar_niz@yahoo.com> wrote:

Mr. Mamoun Sakkal,

I have included Arabic Typesetting in the Fonts folder under Files section, but not included its sample text as picture in the photos section. Will add it soon.

I personally use Scheherazade font for typesetting the poetry book of Siraiki I'm currently working on. You can download the sample ebook from the books section of
http://www.islahulmuslimeen.org

Arabic Typesetting is a good font for Urdu/Siraiki scripts, as well as the Majalla UI. But for certain reasons, I chose Scheherazade as it suits the Naskh style. Moreover, this font doesn't use any combination characters from Arabic presentation forms, so its simple.

But I had to change it little bit to suit the Pakistani typography, because it was designed for Arabic script. Although it supports Pakistani languages using opentype tables, using different ligatures of same character for different languages, the Microsoft platform softwares do not support this feature. That is why, I added a little bit features in it, like ligatures Allah, Sallalah Aliah Wassalam, and did some other minor changes. I named the new font Ghaffari (present in files section).

Again for Majalla UI, A.Typesetting and Uighur fonts, I would like to say that there must be language features for different languages in the font rendering. These fonts are designed for Arabic script, and some features of Pakistani languages are not present. For example, the Shadda+Kasra on a character. Both show above the character, although in Pakistani typography Shadda is shown above and Kasra below. This is an opentype feature, so I could not change it in my Ghaffari font.

I will look to your kind help and suggestions for font designing, to have a good Naskh style standard font for Siraiki.

Mamoun Sakkal <mamoun@sakkal.com> wrote:

Thank you for your efforts in this group.

I reviewed the fonts uploaded to the group website and noticed that
Arabic Typesetting is not included among the fonts that support Siraiki.

It will be helpful to font designers like me to know the group members
opinion regarding the design of the above fonts and which ones are
considered more or less successful and why. I am the designer of Arabic
Typesetting, Majalla UI, and MS Uighur and would certainly appreciate
comments on these as well from users of Siraiki viewpoint.

Best wishes,
Mamoun Sakkal
www.sakkal.com

---

8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time
with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut.

---

It's here! Your new message!
Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar.

---

Never miss an email again!
Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out.

---

Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and
always stay connected to friends.

A nice phonetic keyboard layout for Siraiki is available from
http://www.geocities.com/seraikitec/

You can also download it from the Keyboard Layouts folder of Files
section of this group.

This is really a nice keyboard layout based on phonetic style, and
should be checked by interested members.

Since Siraiki keyboard layouts fully support Urdu script, there is no
need to install two separate keyboards for Siraiki and Urdu. Siraiki
users should use their keyboard for both languages.

Thanks
Abdul Rahim Nizamani

Two things, I want to suggest for fonts

1) If it is possible, please design the fonts such as they can support all languages written in arabic script (these may be about 20)

2) Ghaffari no doubt is good choice for font name but if one font is specific to Seraiki Language or it is designed by some Seraiki Lover then it should be named like ''Lutf'' or ''Fareed'' (two lege legendary poets of Seraiki) or ''Sussi'' or so to reflect Seraiki Moasshrat and Adab.

Best Regard- G. Raza

Abdul Rahim Nizamani <ar_niz@yahoo.com> wrote:

Mr. Mamoun Sakkal,

I have included Arabic Typesetting in the Fonts folder under Files section, but not included its sample text as picture in the photos section. Will add it soon.

I personally use Scheherazade font for typesetting the poetry book of Siraiki I'm currently working on. You can download the sample ebook from the books section of
http://www.islahulmuslimeen.org

Arabic Typesetting is a good font for Urdu/Siraiki scripts, as well as the Majalla UI. But for certain reasons, I chose Scheherazade as it suits the Naskh style. Moreover, this font doesn't use any combination characters from Arabic presentation forms, so its simple.

But I had to change it little bit to suit the Pakistani typography, because it was designed for Arabic script. Although it supports Pakistani languages using opentype tables, using different ligatures of same character for different languages, the Microsoft platform softwares do not support this feature. That is why, I added a little bit features in it, like ligatures Allah, Sallalah Aliah Wassalam, and did some other minor changes. I named the new font Ghaffari (present in files section).

Again for Majalla UI, A.Typesetting and Uighur fonts, I would like to say that there must be language features for different languages in the font rendering. These fonts are designed for Arabic script, and some features of Pakistani languages are not present. For example, the Shadda+Kasra on a character. Both show above the character, although in Pakistani typography Shadda is shown above and Kasra below. This is an opentype feature, so I could not change it in my Ghaffari font.

I will look to your kind help and suggestions for font designing, to have a good Naskh style standard font for Siraiki.

Mamoun Sakkal <mamoun@sakkal.com> wrote:

Thank you for your efforts in this group.

I reviewed the fonts uploaded to the group website and noticed that
Arabic Typesetting is not included among the fonts that support Siraiki.

It will be helpful to font designers like me to know the group members
opinion regarding the design of the above fonts and which ones are
considered more or less successful and why. I am the designer of Arabic
Typesetting, Majalla UI, and MS Uighur and would certainly appreciate
comments on these as well from users of Siraiki viewpoint.

Best wishes,
Mamoun Sakkal
www.sakkal.com

---

8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time
with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut.

---

It's here! Your new message!
Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar.

---

Never miss an email again!
Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out.

Mr. Mamoun Sakkal,

I have included Arabic Typesetting in the Fonts folder under Files section, but not included its sample text as picture in the photos section. Will add it soon.

I personally use Scheherazade font for typesetting the poetry book of Siraiki I'm currently working on. You can download the sample ebook from the books section of
http://www.islahulmuslimeen.org

Arabic Typesetting is a good font for Urdu/Siraiki scripts, as well as the Majalla UI. But for certain reasons, I chose Scheherazade as it suits the Naskh style. Moreover, this font doesn't use any combination characters from Arabic presentation forms, so its simple.

But I had to change it little bit to suit the Pakistani typography, because it was designed for Arabic script. Although it supports Pakistani languages using opentype tables, using different ligatures of same character for different languages, the Microsoft platform softwares do not support this feature. That is why, I added a little bit features in it, like ligatures Allah, Sallalah Aliah Wassalam, and did some other minor changes. I named the new font Ghaffari (present in files section).

Again for Majalla UI, A.Typesetting and Uighur fonts, I would like to say that there must be language features for different languages in the font rendering. These fonts are designed for Arabic script, and some features of Pakistani languages are not present. For example, the Shadda+Kasra on a character. Both show above the character, although in Pakistani typography Shadda is shown above and Kasra below. This is an opentype feature, so I could not change it in my Ghaffari font.

I will look to your kind help and suggestions for font designing, to have a good Naskh style standard font for Siraiki.

Mamoun Sakkal <mamoun@sakkal.com> wrote:

Thank you for your efforts in this group.

I reviewed the fonts uploaded to the group website and noticed that
Arabic Typesetting is not included among the fonts that support Siraiki.

It will be helpful to font designers like me to know the group members
opinion regarding the design of the above fonts and which ones are
considered more or less successful and why. I am the designer of Arabic
Typesetting, Majalla UI, and MS Uighur and would certainly appreciate
comments on these as well from users of Siraiki viewpoint.

Best wishes,
Mamoun Sakkal
www.sakkal.com

---

8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time
with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut.

Thank you for your efforts in this group.

I reviewed the fonts uploaded to the group website and noticed that
Arabic Typesetting is not included among the fonts that support Siraiki.

It will be helpful to font designers like me to know the group members
opinion regarding the design of the above fonts and which ones are
considered more or less successful and why. I am the designer of Arabic
Typesetting, Majalla UI, and MS Uighur and would certainly appreciate
comments on these as well from users of Siraiki viewpoint.

Best wishes,
Mamoun Sakkal
www.sakkal.com

Dear member!

I would appreciate making new keyboard layouts for Siraiki language. More options would benefit users from different areas and perspective. Users of Siraiki wasaib will like to use another keyboard layout than that for Siraiki users belonging to Sindh.
  You may create keyboard layout for Siraiki, but wait a few days until I post list of Siraiki alphabets with their unicode values.
  I will also revise my keyboard layout soon, with minor adjustments.

  Currently, I am planning to create a Siraiki unicode installer, that will install proper Siraiki configuration in Windows, so that users don't have to manually install all the stuff required to enable siraiki language.
Thanks
Abdul Rahim Nizamani


Izhar Mithal Jiskani <imjiskani@yahoo.com> wrote:

Our siraiki language must me setup on Sindhi Layout......
I am your new member. I have also created a Sindhi Keyboard Layout (IM
Sindhi)..... www.freewebs.com/imjiskani....

---

Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate
in the Yahoo! Answers Food Drink Q&A.

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the siraikicomputing
group.

   File        : /Fonts/IM-Sindhi.zip
   Uploaded by : imjiskani <imjiskani@...>
   Description : The Sindhi Keyboard Layout created by Izhar Mithal Jiskani
(www.freewebs.com/imjiskani)

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/siraikicomputing/files/Fonts/IM-Sindhi.zip

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files

Regards,

imjiskani <imjiskani@...>

Thank you for your efforts in this group.

I reviewed the fonts uploaded to the group website and noticed that
Arabic Typesetting is not included among the fonts that support Siraiki.

It will be helpful to font designers like me to know the group members
opinion regarding the design of the above fonts and which ones are
considered more or less successful and why. I am the designer of Arabic
Typesetting, Majalla UI, and MS Uighur and would certainly appreciate
comments on these as well from users of Siraiki viewpoint.

Best wishes,
Mamoun Sakkal
www.sakkal.com

Our siraiki language must me setup on Sindhi Layout......
I am your new member. I have also created a Sindhi Keyboard Layout (IM
Sindhi)..... www.freewebs.com/imjiskani....

Our siraiki language must me setup on Sindhi Layout......
I am your new member. I have also created a Sindhi Keyboard Layout (IM
Sindhi)..... www.freewebs.com/imjiskani....

Mr. Paul Nelson

   As u know, Siraiki uses two characters from Arabic supplement range
of unicode. For this we need uniscribe's later versions than in WinXP.
   I wish to create an installer to install siraiki support for
Windows, that contains the keyboard layout, siraiki fonts, and most
important, the update of usp10.dll. Is that allowed by Microsoft? if
not, what is the proper method to distribute update of usp10.dll?
Moreover, WinXP with SP2 contains versions of system fonts that
support Sindhi, Siraiki. but if a user has win2000 or winxp without
sp2, can i use updates of system fonts to install automatically?

Moreover, usp10.dll is protected by Windows File Protection. How can i
override this to install it using a setup creator software (if its legal).

Thanks
Abdul Rahim Nizamani

Dear members!

    This group has successfully started. Now that there are a few
members, we have to think over our aims and objectives. In my opinion,
this group has to get following objectives:

Siraiki language has two characters in Arabic Supplement part of
Unicode. Hence Windows XP does not fully support Siraiki, due to a
lesser version of uniscribe (unicode characters rendering engine).
Later versions of uniscribe are available but, first they are not
easily available to every user although i have put it in Files section
of this group, second installing an update is a very difficult
procedure for a non-IT computer user. Hence we need to devise an easy
method to get and install it, so common computer users can easily get
it installed and use siraiki in their systems.

Many arabic fonts support Siraiki script (when proper uniscribe file
is installed), but they r not sufficient to act as a default siraiki
font. We need a good Naskh-style simple font, that supports all the
Urdu, as well as Siraiki characters of unicode. Certainly Arabic
characters must also be supported, as many of the writings and texts
of siraiki contain references to arabic phrases. So we'll have to
pursue this matter, until we get one or two good working fonts.
Currently, i'm using a variant of Scheherazade font that fits all my
needs, but its small in point-size, and does not look good enough to
look as siraiki text.

After all this effort, we'll concentrate on digitizing of classic text
and poetry of siraiki literature, and publish online. Due to efforts
of Mr. Majid Bhurgri, Shah-Jo-Risalo the most sacred text of Sindhi
language, has been published on the internet. Siraiki poetry is also
one of the most beautiful poetries of Pakistan. Sachal Sarmast, Ghulam
Fareed, Hamal Faqeer and Pir Mitha are well known Siraiki poets. If we
succeed in publishing their poetry online, it will be a great
accomplishment.

I need further suggestions from group members.

Thanks
Abdul Rahim Nizamani

I get an idea from the fonts on Sindhi computing what style Sindhi
users like. I know that Urdu users want nastaliq. What is the font
style that Siraiki users most desire?

Paul