Here is one suggestion for Saraiki computing community about Saraiki keyboard. The alphabets "غ" and "ق" are 'qareeb-ul-makhraj' alphabets. So it makes more sense to be typed "غ" when shift+Q is presseed and "ڳ" to be typed when shift+G is pressed.
AoA, I had a discussion with Paul Nelson and he said that the following fonts in Windows 7 support 0600 and 0750 blocks completely, that covers Siraiki and various other languages:
Arabic Typesetting Arial Courier New Microsoft Sans Serif Microsoft Uighur Sakkal Majella Segoe UI Tahoma Times New Roman
AoA, I had a discussion with Paul Nelson and he said that the following fonts in Windows 7 support 0600 and 0750 blocks completely, that covers Siraiki and various other languages:
Arabic Typesetting Arial Courier New Microsoft Sans Serif Microsoft Uighur Sakkal Majella Segoe UI Tahoma Times New Roman
I think with the passage of time at least Microsoft system fonts will support Siraiki and other new Arabic script characters of Unicode 5.1 and above, but as Nizamani sahab said, there is no way to force font developers to support the complete block.
I am a big fan of fonts for complete Arabic script, but people in big corporations and institutes do not understand that once you create a font for a specific Arabic script language, then by just adding 20% more effort you can support all other characters.
I'll try to contact Siraiki publshers that you've mentioned for letting me know of any errors.
Thanks for your email, although it adds nothing to my information. Yes some fonts should have attraction to be adopted for some language but I wished that all Arabic-script fonts should display Saraiki characters too anyhow.
Could you please tell me any font which display all Arabic characters except to specific Urdu characters like "peyÙ¾Û”", "TeyÙ¹Û”", "cheyÚ†Û”", "DaalÚˆÛ”", "ReyÚ‘Û”" and "gaafÚ¯Û”"?
"We can create a list of all the fonts which support Seraiki at the moment."
That list should be made under following three headings: (a) Fonts supporting Arabic-Script Characters [font name] (b) Could display full range of Urdu characters [yes/no] (c) Could display full range of Saraiki Characters [yes/no]
Best Regards-- G.
Raza
From: Abdul Rahim Nizamani <ar_niz@...> To: siraikicomputing@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, 6 June, 2009 8:13:16 Subject: Re: [siraikicomputing] Re: Q
Dear Raza,
Not all Arabic fonts support Saraiki characters as well. Most of the fonts are language-specific, so they only support characters required by that language. Only few fonts support full Arabic range of Unicode, including the Paktype fonts.
So any one who wants to write Seraiki in computer, has to get one of those full-range fonts, or special Seraiki fonts which are available now.
We can create a list of all the fonts which support Seraiki at the moment.
Wassalam, Abdul Rahim Nizamani
From: Gee Raza <geeraza@yahoo. com> To: siraikicomputing@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 7:41:45 PM Subject: Re: [siraikicomputing] Re: Q
Sain Lateef Sagar Shaikh,
Thanks for reply. But I cannot tell you any specific issue with the fonts, you mentioned, as I dont have to type large scale text in Saraiki. If possible, please ask people connected with some Saraiki newspaper like Jhoke or some other journal being published in Saraiki to comment on these fonts after having practised them.
But my point was that any font either should dispaly all Arabic-script characters whatever the langauge these belong with or it should not display any Arabic-script character at all. I thnik every font that display characters of Arabic language, do also dispaly the typical characters of Persian and Urdu language, then why not of Saraiki langauge.
Best Regards- G. Raza
From: Lateef Sagar <lateef_sagar@ yahoo.com> To: siraikicomputing@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, 5 June, 2009 17:54:37 Subject: [siraikicomputing] Re: Q
AoA, You can use PakType fonts, they support Siraiki characters. Also please let me know if you find any issue with these fonts:
I think with the passage of time at least Microsoft system fonts will support Siraiki and other new Arabic script characters of Unicode 5.1 and above, but as Nizamani sahab said, there is no way to force font developers to support the complete block.
I am a big fan of fonts for complete Arabic script, but people in big corporations and institutes do not understand that once you create a font for a specific Arabic script language, then by just adding 20% more effort you can support all other characters.
I'll try to contact Siraiki publshers that you've mentioned for letting me know of any errors.
Not all Arabic fonts support Saraiki characters as well. Most of the fonts are language-specific, so they only support characters required by that language. Only few fonts support full Arabic range of Unicode, including the Paktype fonts.
So any one who wants to write Seraiki in computer, has to get one of those full-range fonts, or special Seraiki fonts which are available now.
We can create a list of all the fonts which support Seraiki at the moment.
Wassalam, Abdul Rahim Nizamani
From: Gee Raza <geeraza@...> To: siraikicomputing@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 7:41:45 PM Subject: Re: [siraikicomputing] Re: Q
Sain Lateef Sagar Shaikh,
Thanks for reply. But I cannot tell you any specific issue with the fonts, you mentioned, as I dont have to type large scale text in Saraiki. If possible, please ask people connected with some Saraiki newspaper like Jhoke or some other journal being published in Saraiki to comment on these fonts after having practised them.
But my point was that any font either should dispaly all Arabic-script characters whatever the langauge these belong with or it should not display any Arabic-script character at all. I thnik every font that display characters of Arabic language, do also dispaly the typical characters of Persian and Urdu language, then why not of Saraiki langauge.
Best Regards- G. Raza
From: Lateef Sagar <lateef_sagar@ yahoo.com> To: siraikicomputing@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, 5 June, 2009 17:54:37 Subject: [siraikicomputing] Re: Q
AoA, You can use PakType fonts, they support Siraiki characters. Also please let me know if you find any issue with these fonts:
Thanks for reply. But I cannot tell you any specific issue with the fonts, you mentioned, as I dont have to type large scale text in Saraiki. If possible, please ask people connected with some Saraiki newspaper like Jhoke or some other journal being published in Saraiki to comment on these fonts after having practised them.
But my point was that any font either should dispaly all Arabic-script characters whatever the langauge these belong with or it should not display any Arabic-script character at all. I thnik every font that display characters of Arabic language, do also dispaly the typical characters of Persian and Urdu language, then why not of Saraiki langauge.
Many a fonts, which display other Arabic-script characters very well, do not display the typical five characters of Saraiki. Would that all the fonts which support other Arabic-Script characters do also support the Saraiki special characters too. I request Saraiki Computing Community to proceed in this direction.
I am trying to render following combinations correctly; but so far I have no luck. It would also be nice even if one combination can be rendered correctly. I will be very thankful if anyone can help me out:
Keystroke combination 1:
Aya (ux6DD) Mark (ux6D9 in my case) Number (u0668 in my case)
Current result of this input: http://paktype.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/paktype/Fonts/Naskh%20Basic/Project%20Files/test/1.gif?revision=101
Or Keystroke combination 2:
Aya (ux6DD) Number (u0668 in my case) Mark (ux6D9 in my case)
Current result of this input:
http://paktype.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/paktype/Fonts/Naskh%20Basic/Project%20Files/test/2.gif?revision=101
VOLT Project: http://paktype.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/paktype/Fonts/Naskh%20Basic/Project%20Files/test/PakType%20Naskh%20Basic_volt_test.ttf?revision=100
Lookups in use:
LIG_NUM_SMALL
KERN_AYAH_11 to KERN_AYAH_33
MARK_AYAH
Test document: http://paktype.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/paktype/Fonts/Naskh%20Basic/Project%20Files/test/test%20document.txt?revision=101
Thanks
Lateef Sagar Shaikh
Get PakType fonts from: http://paktype.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/paktype/Fonts/
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