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Re: [siteplayer] Still need help finding the IP

On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:51 PM, jasonhershkowitz
<jhershkowitz@...> wrote:
> OK - I recieved the LF1S022 magnetic RJ45 filters from Netmedia, and
> still cannot get my device on the network.
>
> I have tried using them with the following diagrams:
>
> (Using pins 1,2,3,6)
> http://www.eix.co.uk/Ethernet/fig4.png
>
> (Using pins 4,5,6,7)
> http://www.tigoe.net/pcomp/siteplayer/siteplayer-hardware.shtml
>
> I have tried with and without the 0.01 µF capacitors.
>
> When I use the 1st pinout (1,2,3,6), which is the same pinout as my
> original rj45 jack layout, I get link light, but cannot reach/ping
> the device. When I use the 2nd pinout (4,5,6,7), I get nothing.
>
> Any ideas where to go from here? I can try and diagram/photo what I
> have so far if it helps.
>
> Thank You!
>
>
>
> --- In siteplayer@yahoogroups.com, "marc_reynolds1"
> <marc_reynolds1@...> wrote:
>>
>> You're welcome,
>>
>> The Ethernet magnetics and filter are necessary for isolation,
>> impedance matching, and noise filtering. They're necessary for
>> compliance to IEEE 802.3 - a collection of IEEE standards defining
> the
>> physical layer, and the media access control (MAC) sublayer of the
>> data link layer, of wired Ethernet.
>>
>> A "must-have" for SitePlayer operation on a network.
>>
>> Marc R.
>>
>>
>> --- In siteplayer@yahoogroups.com, "jasonhershkowitz"
>> <jhershkowitz@> wrote:
>> >
>> > Thank You for the help! I got serial working on this using the
>> > serial_converter.pdf file in the files section - 10 small
> components
>> > and a bunch of jumpers and I see the IP.
>> >
>> > Now that I have the IP, I can change it and set it, etc. I still
> cant
>> > ping / connnect to the device via network. I think I have an idea
>> > about this - How important is the LF1S022 ethernet filter? I have
> my
>> > rj45 jack cabled right into the siteplayer instead of through
> this.
>> > Wondering if this is the problem
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --- In siteplayer@yahoogroups.com, "marc_reynolds1"
>> > <marc_reynolds1@> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > You're welcome Jason,
>> > >
>> > > The problem is that valid RS-232 signals are plus or minus 3 to
> 15
>> > > volts. Logic one is defined as a negative voltage and logic
> zero is
>> > > positive. The range near zero volts is not a valid RS-232
> level.
>> > The
>> > > hex inverter's output is +0.3V or more when low.
>> > >
>> > > I have had success driving RS-232 using a LM311 comparator
>> > (configured
>> > > as an inverter) operating on +5V with a 2.2K pullup resistor on
> the
>> > > open collector output. The comparator's output sinks extremely
>> > close
>> > > to zero volts, but this is still out-of-spec for RS-232. You
> would
>> > > also need to buffer and translate the ±voltage output from the
> PC
>> > for
>> > > SitePlayer's RXD input. I can't guarantee that this comparator
>> > scheme
>> > > will work with every PCs serial port.
>> > >
>> > > The circuit in the diagram inverts the signals, develops -10V
> for
>> > the
>> > > RS-232 logic one, and translates ±voltages to TTL levels.
>> > >
>> > > Good luck!
>> > >
>> > > Marc R.
>> > >
>> > > --- In siteplayer@yahoogroups.com, "jasonhershkowitz"
>> > > <jhershkowitz@> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Marc,
>> > > >
>> > > > I couldnt locate the parts for the serial convertor
> readily
>> > > > available around me, and ordered them offline. In the
> meantime, I
>> > > > found this diagram, which looks to be using a hex inverter
>> > instead of
>> > > > RS232 - I tried the circuit, and cant get it working either.
>> > > > http://www.tigoe.net/pcomp/siteplayer/siteplayer-
> hardware.shtml
>> > > >
>> > > > Am I reading this wrong, and will this not work for me? If
> its
>> > best
>> > > > for me to wait for the parts and go RS232, thats OK. Just
>> > checking my
>> > > > options.
>> > > >
>> > > > Thank You!
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --- In siteplayer@yahoogroups.com, "marc_reynolds1"
>> > > > <marc_reynolds1@> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --- In siteplayer@yahoogroups.com, "jasonhershkowitz"
>> > > > > <jhershkowitz@> wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I just purchased a new siteplayer module, and cant get it
> to
>> > > > pickup an
>> > > > > > IP. It is getting link on the router, but doesnt appear
> to be
>> > > > getting
>> > > > > > DHCP when I check the router dhcp logs.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Can someone either point me in the correct direction for
>> > > > finding /
>> > > > > > setting the IP?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > OR
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > If it is easier / better, could someone point me in the
>> > direction
>> > > > of a
>> > > > > > diagram/pinout for connecting the module VIA serial cable?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I currently have the module setup the same way as this:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > >
>> >
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/siteplayer/photos/album/1017567992/pic/1
>> > > > 29
>> > > > > > 6890459/view?
>> > > > picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Thank You!
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Get the SitePlayer Development Manual here:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> >
> http://www.siteplayer.com/docs/001212/SitePlayer_Development_Manual.pd
>> > > > f
>> > > > >
>> > > > > As shown in the diagram on P.7, use a serial-to-RS232
> converter
>> > to
>> > > > > connect SitePlayer to a PC serial port. Alternatively, you
> can
>> > make
>> > > > > your own converter from this schematic:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> >
> http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/0NqDSWX9QFAuQCi229GmdZOfFm2QLBwEEHzxwHRTy
>> > > > FY5B_SPjI-p5geeJs2uVy-
>> > > > VIx_thieXKTl4IMPWAVrCN36dCm7BRbfnPQYwFA/serial_converter.pdf
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Once connected, use the Serial Port Tester for Siteplayer
> to
>> > set an
>> > > > IP
>> > > > > address. SitePlayer does not operate reliably with DHCP,
> so
>> > better
>> > > > to
>> > > > > assign a static IP in your *.SPD file.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I hope this helps,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Marc R.

Hello!
Ideally the schematic drawn by Professor Igoe should be the same as
the one which Netmedia (Question for Marc R, am I correct in
suggesting that the SitePlayer is from the firm?)
also suggests.

It could also be that something is wrong with your networking connections.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8@...
"This signature was once found posting rude
messages in English in the Moscow subway."



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I just purchased a new siteplayer module, and cant get it to pickup an IP. It is getting link on the router, but doesnt appear to be getting DHCP when I check...
jasonhershkowitz
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Jan 27, 2009
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... Get the SitePlayer Development Manual here: http://www.siteplayer.com/docs/001212/SitePlayer_Development_Manual.pdf As shown in the diagram on P.7, use a...
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Jan 31, 2009
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Marc, I couldnt locate the parts for the serial convertor readily available around me, and ordered them offline. In the meantime, I found this diagram, which...
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Feb 1, 2009
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I Have some doubts about the 7404 with series resistor being reliable.  Here is a simple circuit that you might want to try if a Max converter is not...
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You're welcome Jason, The problem is that valid RS-232 signals are plus or minus 3 to 15 volts. Logic one is defined as a negative voltage and logic zero is ...
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Thank You for the help! I got serial working on this using the serial_converter.pdf file in the files section - 10 small components and a bunch of jumpers and...
jasonhershkowitz
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You're welcome, The Ethernet magnetics and filter are necessary for isolation, impedance matching, and noise filtering. They're necessary for compliance to...
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OK - I recieved the LF1S022 magnetic RJ45 filters from Netmedia, and still cannot get my device on the network. I have tried using them with the following...
jasonhershkowitz
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On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:51 PM, jasonhershkowitz ... Hello! Ideally the schematic drawn by Professor Igoe should be the same as the one which Netmedia...
Gregg Levine
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4,5,6,7 should not get you a thing as the wiring is invalid for Ethernet. What are you connecting Site Player to? In which direction are you getting a link...
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Feb 17, 2009
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Siteplayer is connected to the ethernet transformer (sold by netmedia), and then connected to a d-link router. I can get and set the IP using the serial cable,...
jasonhershkowitz
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Feb 17, 2009
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All of the carrier boards that I have made use the same pin connections which I copied from the SP1 development board manual using a LF1S022 (no lights). The...
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Feb 19, 2009
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I should also note that ethernet uses pins 1, 2, 3, and 6 on the RJ45 connector but the LF1S022 makes these connections internally. If you look at the...
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Look at the diagram at: ...
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