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#31 From: David Hartsel <dhartsel@...>
Date: Fri Dec 25, 1998 4:42 am
Subject: Re: Describing Slide Rule Scales
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Hi,

About 15" from my left hand is my trusty 30 year old Dietzgen B-1725 which is
in use almost every day.  I have several calculators sitting around here but I
find that the rule is very often much quicker.

Dave Hartsel

"Thomas A. Frank" wrote:

> Hello All;
>
> I'll add my personal opinion on this, for what it's worth...
>
> On straight slide rules, I simply list from top to bottom, front then back.
> I define front as the side with the C/D scale.
>
> On circular rules, I do something a little different.  I list front then
> back, but I list the scales on the front such that they read in a way that
> C comes before D...and I list the back outside to inside.
>
> What this ends up meaning is that the front of some circular rules gets
> listed inside to outside.  For example, the SIC No 120:
>
> front: 10/EI/CI/C/D/A/K (read from inside to outside)
> rear: L/DI/D/T/S/T/S/T/TS (read from outside to inside)
>
> Which results in a pattern that is similar to a straight rule.
>
> I don't suppose it matters all that much, but I like to see D follow C, as
> that is pretty much how you use the device.
>
> Tom Frank
>
> P.S. - I'll come out of the closet - in addition to my HP-48GX, I carry in
> my briefcase, and actually use (once in a while), an SIC 120-D (circular,
> about 4 3/8" dia).  Does anyone else on the list actually carry a slide
> rule and use it?
>
> Thomas A. Frank, KA2CDK
> Rhode Island State Chapter Coordinator, National Motorists Association
> The Organization Responsible For Repeal of the National Maximum Speed Limit
> e-mail: ri@...      NMA Web Page: <http://www.motorists.org>
> telephone: 1-401-849-3974 (voice, answering machine, auto-fax)
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#30 From: "walter shawlee 2" <walter2@...>
Date: Fri Dec 25, 1998 2:06 am
Subject: Re: Off Topic Posts, Christmas Haul
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Marking Slide Rules in Text:
 
One useful (and pretty unambiguous) method of marking scale layouts has proven to be the use of brackets to show the sliding or rotating portion of a rule.
 
A simple straight rule might look like this:  K, A, [ B, CI, C, ] D, L
a Circular like this:  D, [ C, CI, A, K ]
 
I am not sure where I first saw this used, possibly in an email message from Foo, when he was trying to describe an unknown rule to me.  It seems very useful to me, and I have started updating all the on line archives at the SRU to reflect this, because it seems to be the clearest method I can come up with.  Anybody have a niftier way?
 
Also, as to the endless question, which is the FRONT?  Strictly in my OPINION, it would be the side with ABCD on it, or as close as you can get.  My reason?  This represents the basic scale set for virtually all rules, and so is logically first to me.  Could be dead wrong, but if so, I am at least happy in my erroneous ways.
 
Have any of you noticed the many rule son Ebay turning up with CF and B aligned on the same side, often coupled with an excited description that this is an unusual rule!  yes, it certainly is, the slide in in the wrong way around.  the CF and DF scales are always in alignment, unless you see some mystic value in putting them on opposite side of the rule to largely defeat their practical use.
 
All for now, if you have any Faber-Castell pics or rule descriptions to add to the illustrated on line archive I am building at:
 
let me know!
all for now,
walter.
(webguy at the Slide Rule Universe)
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Davie [mailto:adavie@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 1998 3:59 PM
To: sliderule@egroups.com
Subject: [sliderule] Off Topic Posts, Christmas Haul

TO everyone
 
I'd like to try to keep all messages on this list as close to topic as possible.  That is, please try to include at least something slide-rule-related in the contents!  Whilst christmas greetings are a nice idea, please remember that you are sending to some 150 people who have joined to read about slide rules.
 
So, ON topic...
 
My Christmas haul included a nice new in box SIC No. 300-B rule - circular about 4" diameter.  This rule has scales K/A/D/C/CI/B/L // LL3/LL2/D/C/S/T1/T2/ST.  I guess this brings up an issue that's been dicsussed on-and-off on SRTP.  What method is the "correct" one for describing the scales on a rule.  In this example, the scales on the two sides are quite clearly distinguished, but which are on the inner (turning) thing (stator?) and which on the outer?  How does everyone else describe their rules?
 
A
 
 
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#29 From: "Thomas A. Frank" <tfrank9@...>
Date: Fri Dec 25, 1998 2:09 am
Subject: Describing Slide Rule Scales
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Hello All;

I'll add my personal opinion on this, for what it's worth...

On straight slide rules, I simply list from top to bottom, front then back.
I define front as the side with the C/D scale.

On circular rules, I do something a little different.  I list front then
back, but I list the scales on the front such that they read in a way that
C comes before D...and I list the back outside to inside.

What this ends up meaning is that the front of some circular rules gets
listed inside to outside.  For example, the SIC No 120:

front: 10/EI/CI/C/D/A/K (read from inside to outside)
rear: L/DI/D/T/S/T/S/T/TS (read from outside to inside)

Which results in a pattern that is similar to a straight rule.

I don't suppose it matters all that much, but I like to see D follow C, as
that is pretty much how you use the device.

Tom Frank

P.S. - I'll come out of the closet - in addition to my HP-48GX, I carry in
my briefcase, and actually use (once in a while), an SIC 120-D (circular,
about 4 3/8" dia).  Does anyone else on the list actually carry a slide
rule and use it?

Thomas A. Frank, KA2CDK
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The Organization Responsible For Repeal of the National Maximum Speed Limit
e-mail: ri@...      NMA Web Page: <http://www.motorists.org>
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#28 From: David Scott Pearce <alpinejo@...>
Date: Thu Dec 24, 1998 11:53 pm
Subject: Re: Merry Christmas
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Thanks very much & the same back to you!

> Ira Stone wrote:
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> HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL!
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#27 From: "Andrew Davie" <adavie@...>
Date: Thu Dec 24, 1998 11:58 pm
Subject: Off Topic Posts, Christmas Haul
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TO everyone
 
I'd like to try to keep all messages on this list as close to topic as possible.  That is, please try to include at least something slide-rule-related in the contents!  Whilst christmas greetings are a nice idea, please remember that you are sending to some 150 people who have joined to read about slide rules.
 
So, ON topic...
 
My Christmas haul included a nice new in box SIC No. 300-B rule - circular about 4" diameter.  This rule has scales K/A/D/C/CI/B/L // LL3/LL2/D/C/S/T1/T2/ST.  I guess this brings up an issue that's been dicsussed on-and-off on SRTP.  What method is the "correct" one for describing the scales on a rule.  In this example, the scales on the two sides are quite clearly distinguished, but which are on the inner (turning) thing (stator?) and which on the outer?  How does everyone else describe their rules?
 
A
 
 
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#26 From: JoeDentist@...
Date: Thu Dec 24, 1998 6:50 pm
Subject: Re: eBay Item 50016186, K&E 4096 M
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I'm not sure if at this point in the Slide Rule collecting Hobby if logic
prevails. I'm also a coin collector, and I know that small differences in
quality can make a big difference in price. Two identical coins of different
grades can cost vastly different amounts. A 4096M and a 4096 are not the same
thing. If they made 10 times as many 4096 than 4096M it could cost 10 times
more. I do not have the figures for production for these rules. Eventually
there will be a codified standard of grading, and published production figure
to help evaluate price. Look, if a Pickett N3T costs $89 and a Pickett N3pT
costs $500,  whose to say what an M is worth. I suppose the point of
collecting is to collect. I am sort of new to a hobby thats sort of new. I am
concentrating now on Mint in the box rules, since the amount of these will
always decrease and the highest quality examples will always increase in value
when others lose theirs. I guess its worth what the traffic will bear at any
time. It will fluctuate.
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#25 From: "Richard F. Lyon" <dicklyon@...>
Date: Thu Dec 24, 1998 9:50 pm
Subject: Re: "&nbsp;" in messages?
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At 07:46 PM 12/24/98 +1030, John Gilbert wrote:
>Come on Andrew. You are UTC+11 now. And I agree, HTML email is rude
>unless the recipient has specifically consented to it. And it IS an M$
>conspiracy!!

I tend to agree.  But I still don't understand why the programs that
convert HTML to text just leave that one character untranslated.

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#24 From: "Mike Gabbert" <gabbertm@...>
Date: Thu Dec 24, 1998 11:00 pm
Subject: eBay Item 50016186, K&E 4096 M
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I have an identical rule (same scale configuration and patent number) with the
model number of 68 1754.  I was able to get it for about 1/3 the current bid
price of the 4096 M ($223 and change).  Is the 4096 M really worth so much more?

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#22 From: "Ira Stone" <Ira_Stone@...>
Date: Thu Dec 24, 1998 5:24 pm
Subject: Merry Christmas
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HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL!

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#21 From: John Gilbert <gilbjd@...>
Date: Thu Dec 24, 1998 9:16 am
Subject: Re: "&nbsp;" in messages?
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Come on Andrew. You are UTC+11 now. And I agree, HTML email is rude
unless the recipient has specifically consented to it. And it IS an M$
conspiracy!!

Merry Xmas from UTC+10.5

John Gilbert
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#20 From: "Andrew Davie" <adavie@...>
Date: Thu Dec 24, 1998 5:35 am
Subject: Re: "&nbsp;" in messages?
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There are two ways to have the list send you email.  The first, and nearly everyone uses this method - is as text-only format - it's the default when you subscribe.  I happen to like HTML email, as I can use my pretty fonts ;)  - you can visit the server ( http://www.egroups.com/list/sliderule ) and read messages in their virgin HTML there, or - the second way - you can set your list preferences (menu option at the above URL) so that you receive email in HTML format.  That's my suggested option - but you might shudder at the thought of HTML email.
I don't think this is specifically a M$ problem, but rather that I'm sending in HTML and you're receiving as text.  I predict email will be almost exclusively HTML in a couple of years.  Can Eudora receive email in HTML format?  If so, you're home free.
A
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Richard F. Lyon [mailto:DickLyon@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 4:44 PM
To: sliderule@egroups.com
Subject: [sliderule] "&nbsp;" in messages?

Hey, pretty nice list. But can anyone tell me how to suppress the
occurrence of the dreaded "&nbsp;" (ampersand-n-b-s-p-semicolon, in case your reader caught it and turned it back into a non-breaking-space)?
This happens with messages from Andrew and others who use Microsoft
stuff, it looks like:
>X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3
in keeping with Microsoft's strategy of making their stuff screw up
people on other platforms, I guess.
I have Eudora Pro 3.0 on a Mac. Anybody have a fix?
Dick

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#19 From: "Richard F. Lyon" <DickLyon@...>
Date: Tue Dec 22, 1998 5:43 am
Subject: "&nbsp;" in messages?
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Hey, pretty nice list.  But can anyone tell me how to suppress the
occurrence of the dreaded "&nbsp;" (ampersand-n-b-s-p-semicolon,
in case your reader caught it and turned it back into a non-breaking-space)?

This happens with messages from Andrew and others who use Microsoft
stuff, it looks like:
>X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3
in keeping with Microsoft's strategy of making their stuff screw up
people on other platforms, I guess.

I have Eudora Pro 3.0 on a Mac.  Anybody have a fix?

Dick




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#18 From: "Steven Tan" <stek96@...>
Date: Wed Dec 23, 1998 4:56 pm
Subject: Join the group
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regards
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#17 From: fred harris <fred.harris@...>
Date: Wed Dec 23, 1998 5:16 pm
Subject: Re: Pilot Balloon Slide Rule
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hello folks... i'm a new comer.... i picked up a pilot balloon slide rule
in australia last year... i woul appreciate a copy of the instructions
too...thanking you before hand.... fred h
At 09:39 PM 12/22/98 -0600, you wrote:
>Herb
>
>I looked through my files and found two different photocopies of Pilot
>balloon instructions.  I'll be glad to get them to you, but it will have to
>wait until I return from the holidays.  Should be this coming Sunday.
>
>Bobby Feazel
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#16 From: "Mort Hans" <W2OTS@...>
Date: Wed Dec 23, 1998 4:03 am
Subject: Slant Range Computer
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Looking for information about a U.S. Navy Slant Range Computer (Device
16-c-39-s) manufactured by Theo.  Alteneder & Sons, Phila, PA ca 1965.  Computer
consists of a fixed scale (Ground Range in NM) and a rotatable plastic scale
(Sweep Length in NM. Operator sets in altitude, time delay (radar?) equivalent
to altitude.  Intersection of rotatable scale with ground range line at sweep
length gives slant range.

Any leads most appreciated.

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#15 From: W2OTS@...
Date: Tue Dec 22, 1998 10:37 pm
Subject: Re: Faber Alert on eBay and Demise of SRTP SDF
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Hi,

Noted your username.  Recognized the first part from the Lovecraft SF stories.
What does the "fatagn" refer to?  Do you specialize in bizarre and arcane
sliderules
that have established provenances in certain Rhode Island houses with damp
basements from which unidentifiable sounds can be heard at night?  Or left
behind as artifacts by, "shadow(s) out of time?"

Mort Hans

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#14 From: "Bobby Feazel" <feazelb@...>
Date: Wed Dec 23, 1998 3:39 am
Subject: Re: Pilot Balloon Slide Rule
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Herb

I looked through my files and found two different photocopies of Pilot
balloon instructions.  I'll be glad to get them to you, but it will have to
wait until I return from the holidays.  Should be this coming Sunday.

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#13 From: Jay Francis <SlideRuleGuy@...>
Date: Wed Dec 23, 1998 3:01 am
Subject: sliderule eGroup
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Andrew,

I think this slide rule list server is a great idea.  I am also on another
list server and I like the idea of getting the mail automatically in my
In-box.  I believe in letting technology assist us in our daily lives.

I am glad to be a member and I am looking forward to interaction with the
other list server members.

I will be off-line for the next week, visiting family in Wisconsin.

So I'll use this message to wish all the list members a Happy Holiday.





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#12 From: "Kenneth L. Sanders" <kennethsanders@...>
Date: Wed Dec 23, 1998 1:10 am
Subject: Re: Side Rule list (SRTP future)
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Andie:
You bring up an interesting point, but...
A few years ago, the Journal of Irreproducible Results published a "study" demonstrating that the "most scientific" integer was 3.  Purportedly, more people than not felt that this integer represented exactitude (e.g. which is correct for pi, 3.14 or 2.14? {point well taken or not?}).  I think that this is so intuitively obvious that whenever I make up a number or conclusion, you can be sure that it contains plenty of 3's.  This has been invaluable in influencing a meteoric climb within my professional career (the nature of which must remain obscure if I am to maintain any semblance of respectability having revealed one of my many secrets).
All this reinforces my suspicion that it helps to be a little daft to collect slide rules.
By the way, I prefer to term the basis of the scale as "Naperian" as being a bit more arcane than logarithmic..
Thanks,
Ken
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From: Andrew Davie <adavie@...>
To: sliderule@egroups.com <sliderule@egroups.com>
Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 11:49 PM
Subject: [sliderule] Re: Side Rule list (SRTP future)

I'm not quite sure what will become of the SRTP forum & trading post.
 
This new system appears to offer all the benefits, the same degree of control, better features, and costs me nothing.  I actually pay (good money!) for the extra web space used by the forums on SRTP, and I need to change that!  It is possible the existing SRTP forum messages will be added to the mailing list for archive purposes.  I expect at some time in the next few months I will close down the SRTP forums - once this list shows its worth.  So, my preference would be for you to all use this mailing list exclusively - after all, your messages will be searchable, indexed, archived.  I will (very soon) put up notices on SRTP advising of the mailing list and the impending change.
 
As for the rest of SRTP - that is a more tricky question.  There have been precious few contributions of material/articles for the SRTP site, recently, and as the contributions for the Museum of Soviet Calculators ( http://www.comcen.com.au/~adavie/slide/calculator/soviet.html ) have been rolling in, that site has taken most of my time.  That's not to say SRTP is closing, or that I'm totally disinterested in slide rules!
 
And now, for something completely different...
 
I'm sure you're all intimately aware with the distribution of numbers on a logarithmic scale of a slide rule.  Well you should be, anyway.  In short, about half of the scale length is devoted to numbers less than 3, and the area devoted to higher numbers gets increasingly (logarithmically!) smaller.   The interesting thing is that apparently our use of numbers in everyday life approximately parallels this distribution.  That is, in everyday life we tend to use many more 1s, 2s and 3s than 7s 8s and 9s.  So, if you select equal-spaced divisions on a logarithmic scale, the distribution of numbers for each division is approximately equal (even though those divisions contain different number ranges).  I am not making this up.
The offshout of this is that when humans tend to make up numbers, they assume and select a fairly evenly distributed selection of 0-9.  That is, humans select numbers "randomly" by making the occurence of each of 0-9 approximately equal.  This fact is used by the tax department (at least, in the USA) to automatically detect tax returns which are suspicious.  Those returns which show a fairly even distribution of digits 0-9 are probably made-up numbers, and hence audited - whereas those with distributions of digits skewed towards 1,2,3 are probably legit.
So, now you know.
 
A
 
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Date: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 3:33 PM
Subject: [sliderule] Side Rule list

What does this mean wrt the SRTP forum/trading post. Do we stop using it in
its entirety? What about the rest of the SRTP?
Fred Stahl

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#11 From: "Herbert A. Gold" <herbgold@...>
Date: Wed Dec 23, 1998 1:20 am
Subject: Pilot Balloon Slide Rule
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Can anyone direct me to operating instructions for a Mark V model?

See Bobby Feazel's article in JOS, Vol. 5, No. 2.

Thanks,

Herb Gold
Los Angeles

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#10 From: "FOO Cheow Ming" <cthulhufatagn@...>
Date: Tue Dec 22, 1998 5:46 pm
Subject: Faber Alert on eBay and Demise of SRTP SDF
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I for one greet the insipient demise of SDF with great regret, and has
yet to get used to the idea of a mailing list.  However, its been a
blast having a private forum like the SDF - too good to last, I am
afraid!  But I guess we cannot expect good ole Andrew to subsidise our
pleasures indefinitely;  and at least this mailing list would not make
us refugees on Dejanews.  There are a couple of great Faber rules of the
prefix-2 series on auction on eBay now (NOT by me - I am anxious to
add).  Go L@@K, people !!  And Seasons Gleetings (sic).
Regards
Cthulhufatagn

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#9 From: DAN WEINSTOCK <WEINDAN@...>
Date: Tue Dec 22, 1998 10:31 am
Subject: Thanks Andrew!
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I think this new slide rule list is a wonderful development. It will
increase discussion and bring us closer together. If SRTP disappears,
though, I will miss visiting the forum and trading pages every day.
Thanks to Andrew for his time and energy in providing this for us!
Happy Holidays to all,

Dan Weinstock
Geneva, NY
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#8 From: Ted Davis <bg495@...>
Date: Tue Dec 22, 1998 6:03 am
Subject: Re: Side Rule list (SRTP future)
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My slide rule "future" page increments at:

       http://table.jps.net/~einc/mall/matins/matins.htm

among other CONSTANT SOCIETY constant processes.  For
ten thousand entries of $\e^{e^...{@}}$ and $\pi$ if
you are inclined, perhaps start with:

    http://table.jps.net/~einc/wanted/wanted.htm

if you can see beyond natural language digression and value
the info content of pure mathematics constant processes, please join in!

Happy holidays to all SRTP'ers and thanks to Andrew for creating
this favorite site!


eyepi


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scopo eyepi's rete pagina: table.jps.net/~einc/

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#7 From: Dick Rose <rarose@...>
Date: Tue Dec 22, 1998 5:11 am
Subject: Holiday Greetings
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Hi Everyone,

Just wanted to wish everyone Happy Holidays.

If you have any spare change left after buying presents and want something
for yourself,  please let me know, and I'll send you the latest version of
my slide rule, etc., for- sale list.

Andrew, thanks for setting up this new forum.

Happy Holidays, all.

Dick

Dick Rose
2605 Ridgefield Rd.
Kalamazoo, MI 49024, U.S.A.

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#6 From: "Andrew Davie" <adavie@...>
Date: Tue Dec 22, 1998 4:45 am
Subject: Re: Side Rule list (SRTP future)
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I'm not quite sure what will become of the SRTP forum & trading post.
 
This new system appears to offer all the benefits, the same degree of control, better features, and costs me nothing.  I actually pay (good money!) for the extra web space used by the forums on SRTP, and I need to change that!  It is possible the existing SRTP forum messages will be added to the mailing list for archive purposes.  I expect at some time in the next few months I will close down the SRTP forums - once this list shows its worth.  So, my preference would be for you to all use this mailing list exclusively - after all, your messages will be searchable, indexed, archived.  I will (very soon) put up notices on SRTP advising of the mailing list and the impending change.
 
As for the rest of SRTP - that is a more tricky question.  There have been precious few contributions of material/articles for the SRTP site, recently, and as the contributions for the Museum of Soviet Calculators ( http://www.comcen.com.au/~adavie/slide/calculator/soviet.html ) have been rolling in, that site has taken most of my time.  That's not to say SRTP is closing, or that I'm totally disinterested in slide rules!
 
And now, for something completely different...
 
I'm sure you're all intimately aware with the distribution of numbers on a logarithmic scale of a slide rule.  Well you should be, anyway.  In short, about half of the scale length is devoted to numbers less than 3, and the area devoted to higher numbers gets increasingly (logarithmically!) smaller.   The interesting thing is that apparently our use of numbers in everyday life approximately parallels this distribution.  That is, in everyday life we tend to use many more 1s, 2s and 3s than 7s 8s and 9s.  So, if you select equal-spaced divisions on a logarithmic scale, the distribution of numbers for each division is approximately equal (even though those divisions contain different number ranges).  I am not making this up.
The offshout of this is that when humans tend to make up numbers, they assume and select a fairly evenly distributed selection of 0-9.  That is, humans select numbers "randomly" by making the occurence of each of 0-9 approximately equal.  This fact is used by the tax department (at least, in the USA) to automatically detect tax returns which are suspicious.  Those returns which show a fairly even distribution of digits 0-9 are probably made-up numbers, and hence audited - whereas those with distributions of digits skewed towards 1,2,3 are probably legit.
So, now you know.
 
A
 
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From: Fred Stahl <wellngtn@...>
To: sliderule@egroups.com <sliderule@egroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 3:33 PM
Subject: [sliderule] Side Rule list

What does this mean wrt the SRTP forum/trading post. Do we stop using it in
its entirety? What about the rest of the SRTP?
Fred Stahl

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#5 From: "John P. Porter" <jporter@...>
Date: Tue Dec 22, 1998 4:21 am
Subject: Sliderule list
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Glad to be a member of the egroup.  You are all invited to visit my list of sliderules on our web page at www.capital.net/com/jporter  I will be glad to take offers on listed rules and answer any requests.
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#4 From: "Fred Stahl" <wellngtn@...>
Date: Tue Dec 22, 1998 4:18 am
Subject: Side Rule list
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Andrew,

What does this mean wrt the SRTP forum/trading post. Do we stop using it in
its entirety? What about the rest of the SRTP?

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#3 From: "Andrew Davie" <adavie@...>
Date: Tue Dec 22, 1998 4:13 am
Subject: Side Rule list
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Welcome to the new (automated!) Slide Rule mailing list.  Thanks for joining up so quickly.  Remember, at any time you can send email to all of the members of the list by using sliderule@egroups.com as the email address - or simply by replying to any email which has been sent to you through the "egroups" system.
 
It's an, essentially, free service - but you will notice some (hopefully unobtrusive) advertising at the bottom of the emails.  I felt this was an extremely small price to pay for the free system which includes a keyword search, and archive capabilities.  Now we can search by keywords all messages posted through the system.  I'd encourage you all to try posting messages, (NOW!!), and certainly hope you will visit http://www.egroups.com/list/sliderule/ - this URL is the home page from where you can check out all archived messages, etc. etc.  Although I have made the list a moderated list (I approve all messages before they get sent to everyone else), I am doing this more to keep things running smoothly, than to excersise some sort of power-trip.  I will be happy to accept volunteers to join me in the moderation task.  I don't expect there will be too many "off" postings, though.
 
I'm hoping the list will be much more active than the SRTP forums - it will certainly be quicker and more convenient for me.  I'd like to encourage all questions, answers, discussions, bitching, for-sale and wanted - just about anything.  My one request is that you all try to keep the Subject line fairly close to what the email is about :)
 
OK, I've started the ball rolling.  It's up to you to use the system.  Right now is a good time!
 
Cheers
A

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#2 From: walter2@...
Date: Tue Dec 22, 1998 12:11 am
Subject: Looking for old Faber-Castell Images
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If anyone has good quality images of older wood body Faber-Castell rules, I am
looking for some to use with permission, for an on-line FC archive.  I have most
of the 2/xxx, 52/xxx, 111/xxx, 152/xxx etc. plastic body rules already, but have
tracked down only a few 1/xx wood body rules to post.  I need good quality scans
(scales readable) or photos, and the rule name and number, plus anything else
you may know about it.  much appreciated, and you can view the efforts to date
at:  http://www.sphere.bc.ca/test/fc.html
if you know of others not listed that should be there, please let me know, and I
will add them as time permits.  I would be especially interested in data on the
later 2/84N mathema, which I don't happen to have.  A Sun/Hemmi illustrated
archive is also in progress, and about half completed.

regards,
walter
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#1 From: "Andrew Davie" <adavie@...>
Date: Mon Dec 21, 1998 9:51 am
Subject: Welcome to the sliderule E-Mail Group
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