... I never actually got to this, so (unless someone else did it) there won't be an SML-DEV presentation there. I've been traveling far too much this month,...
Simon St.Laurent
simonstl@...
Jul 1, 2000 12:34 pm
3399
Simon St.Laurent wrote: <snip /> ... Simon, here's a typical reply I get from evaluators of our xmlFX C++ library, which is targeted at users who would be SML...
Dale Hunscher
dale@...
Jul 1, 2000 6:54 pm
3400
... From: "Dale Hunscher" <dale@...> To: <sml-dev@egroups.com> Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 2:55 PM Subject: RE: [sml-dev] Fwd: Extreme Markup...
Michael Champion
Mike.Champion@...
Jul 1, 2000 7:12 pm
3401
I'll ask Ben (the guy who wrote what I quoted) if he can suggest an example from whatever his problem domain is... ... From: Michael Champion...
Dale Hunscher
dale@...
Jul 1, 2000 8:37 pm
3402
... Sure. Sorry about late response. I should have more free time from this point on (unless I am halucinating from stress overload). My next project is...
Don Park
donpark@...
Jul 3, 2000 7:24 am
3403
... OK. Best, Don...
Don Park
donpark@...
Jul 3, 2000 7:24 am
3404
... Yes. Working code. Don...
Don Park
donpark@...
Jul 3, 2000 7:26 am
3405
http://www.xmlhack.com/read.php?item=634...
Paul Tchistopolskii
pault12@...
Jul 5, 2000 9:21 am
3406
... John Wilson's MinML parser seems to be getting quite a bit of flak from those who aren't fond of functionality subsets: http://metalab.unc.edu/xml/ (top...
Simon St.Laurent
simonstl@...
Jul 5, 2000 9:06 pm
3407
... From: Simon St.Laurent <simonstl@...> To: <sml-dev@eGroups.com> Sent: 05 July 2000 22:09 Subject: [sml-dev] MinML parser flak ... I've had lots...
... From: Michael Champion ... I suggest to call the output of Don's Minimizer "Minimal XML v 1.0". I think we have missed something important with Minimal...
Paul Tchistopolskii
paul@...
Jul 6, 2000 2:24 am
3410
My thinking is that Elliotte's concerns are groundless. So what if people gets confused about what 'Minimal XML Parser' is. They will learn the difference as...
Don Park
donpark@...
Jul 6, 2000 6:23 am
3411
... Let me apply that logic in a different context and see if it still holds up: "So what if people get confused about what the 'MSXML' parser is. They will...
Elliotte Rusty Harold
elharo@...
Jul 6, 2000 11:22 am
3412
... Not at all. There are two different things getting mixed up together here. 1. A Minimal XML DOCUMENT is an XML document because it follows all the rules of...
Elliotte Rusty Harold
elharo@...
Jul 6, 2000 11:22 am
3413
... My concerns with the MSXML parser have primarily dealt with the fact that it accepts a superset of XML - notably the old </> debacle. That leads people...
Simon St.Laurent
simonstl@...
Jul 6, 2000 11:30 am
3414
Oops. Sent too early. I'll add the last paragraph. ... Yes, that's a bit more work for those of us writing tutorials, but explaining such things up front,...
Simon St.Laurent
simonstl@...
Jul 6, 2000 11:35 am
3415
This may well be so. However MinML is not a parser which only accepts Minimal XML it's a parser which accepts full XML except for mixed content (it also...
John Wilson
tug@...
Jul 6, 2000 11:55 am
3416
... Interesting. I didn't know that. However, my concern is that it flags many real-world XML documents as non well-formed when in fact they are. Entity...
Elliotte Rusty Harold
elharo@...
Jul 6, 2000 12:55 pm
3417
... Hmmm... I'm looking at David Brownell's conformance results at: http://www.xml.com/2000/05/10/conformance/reports/msxml3-nv.html I can't find much comment...
Simon St.Laurent
simonstl@...
Jul 6, 2000 1:10 pm
3418
The classic example is the XML 1.0 spec in XML. Even with the latest version of MSXML, it still fails to load in IE5. They're a lot of other common examples,...
Elliotte Rusty Harold
elharo@...
Jul 6, 2000 2:33 pm
3419
... Mixed content is something that *is* natural to many people, so it's hard to avoid... especially if hand-editing. To many people <p>This is...
Gavin Thomas Nicol
gtn@...
Jul 7, 2000 5:30 pm
3420
... Actually, parser, data maodel, API implementers hate mixed content for reasons we all have come to understand after months of discussion here on SML (and...
Bob La Quey
robertl1@...
Jul 7, 2000 6:05 pm
3421
Yes, I can quite see why many people would want it. However, my parser runs on systems with 1,000th the power and 1,000th the storage capacity of an entry...
John Wilson
tug@...
Jul 7, 2000 6:15 pm
3422
... Yeh, I agree with what you are doing and your reasons for doing it. I probably should have changed the subject since this comment was really directed...
Bob La Quey
robertl1@...
Jul 7, 2000 8:26 pm
3423
... From: Bob La Quey <robertl1@...> To: <sml-dev@egroups.com> Sent: 07 July 2000 21:27 Subject: Re: [sml-dev] MinML parser flak [snip] ... as Mr....
John Wilson
tug@...
Jul 7, 2000 9:27 pm
3424
... Gee. Why do I have to get blamed for the whole trouble when I just started it? <g> IMHO, SML-DEV as a whole should be 'blamed'. Best, Don Park Docuverse...
Don Park
donpark@...
Jul 8, 2000 6:06 am
3425
... Not quite the same. MSXML is publicised as being a general XML parser while MinML is not. What MinML does not do is clearly marked even in the...
Don Park
donpark@...
Jul 8, 2000 6:15 am
3426
... To me, 'minimal' is no different from 'well-formed' in that both are qualifiers which places specific constraints upon the affected word: XML. There are...
Don Park
donpark@...
Jul 8, 2000 6:15 am
3427
... It depends on the data model and API. Mike and I can attest to the amount of time it took DOM to decide on text nodes.... horrible though they be. If you...
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