... That would be great. ... > > ... the < ... > > ... really ... You don't need to mark up the element. If you don't want a distinction, then you should...
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Michael Champion
Mike.Champion@...
Oct 1, 2000 3:27 pm
We've discussed submitting the Common XML document to the W3C to be published as a Note. Here's the details on how one goes about making a Submission Request...
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Bob La Quey
robertl1@...
Oct 1, 2000 3:40 pm
... Thanks, I think you are right. I'd like to get back to this though when I have the time and look at simple syntax for RDF. Maybe the syntax is OK if we...
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Bob La Quey
robertl1@...
Oct 1, 2000 3:50 pm
Hi Mike, Often in battles there are acts of courage that go unnoticed. I do appreciate your principled and courageous stand on this. <quote> Also, submissions...
3608
Don Park
donpark@...
Oct 3, 2000 12:17 am
Attributes vs. Element is syntax issue in MinML since MinML model does not distinguish the two. Mixed content model, however, is indeed a model issue. Don...
3609
Don Park
donpark@...
Oct 3, 2000 12:19 am
I liked both of Sergey Melnik's work. Did W3C make any comments regarding them? All I know is that TimBL made some negative comments regarding RDF. Don...
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Paul Tchistopolskii
pault12@...
Oct 3, 2000 1:33 am
... From: Don Park <donpark@...> ... Attributes are unique. This is model issue, I think. Rgds.Paul....
3611
Paul Tchistopolskii
pault12@...
Oct 3, 2000 1:38 am
... From: Don Park <donpark@...> ... I can not say I like it. From the page: "RDF follows a property-centric approach. Let the syntax reflect it." ...
3612
Don Park
donpark@...
Oct 3, 2000 1:44 am
... One can think of attributes as arrays with first entry (index 0) as the default value. When converted to attribute-friendly syntax, remaining entries are...
3613
Paul Tchistopolskii
pault12@...
Oct 3, 2000 2:35 am
... I don't understand what it buys. The good thing about properties is that the only thing needed is a hashtable ... well ... almost ... In the universe of...
3614
Oren Ben-Kiki
orenbk@...
Oct 3, 2000 8:42 am
... ;-) ... structure, Nice summary. ... I think we have the following options: - Inconvenient mapping, simple API, simple XML syntax (MinXML). - Convenient...
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Bob La Quey
robertl1@...
Oct 3, 2000 3:33 pm
... No Paul, You are just being stuck in your thinking. Here is what Sergey is saying. RDF (as shown is the previous examples) is really nothing more than a...
3616
Paul Tchistopolskii
pault12@...
Oct 3, 2000 10:20 pm
... it." ... Maybe. I'l try to explain. ;-) ... 1. Elements are longer to type. ;-) 2. Elements are harder to process with standard XML API's ( SAX ...
3617
Paul Tchistopolskii
pault12@...
Oct 3, 2000 10:28 pm
Oren - you are reading my fuzzy feelings and then you produced the accurate conclusion. Rgds.Paul. PS. I think maybe we've made a mistake killing YML. PPS....
3618
Simon St.Laurent
simonstl@...
Oct 5, 2000 3:01 pm
... I'm pushing people toward Common XML core as a foundation: http://www.simonstl.com/articles/cxmlspec.txt (Okay, all right, I edited that document, with...
3619
Clark C. Evans
cce@...
Oct 10, 2000 7:51 pm
... Same here. ... What is important: The information model can (without too much distortion) handle the XML information model. Making our own "native-mode" ...
3620
Paul Tchistopolskii
pault12@...
Oct 11, 2000 3:17 am
... From: Clark C. Evans <cce@...> Long time ;-) Nice to hear from you. ... So let us agree with David Megginson who regards XML as IP layer ;-) (...
3621
Don Park
donpark@...
Oct 11, 2000 8:15 am
... MinML doesn't prevent 'layering' mapping concept on top of it. I have not found 'map' concept to be very useful though in my applications. Best, Don...
3622
Oren Ben-Kiki
orenbk@...
Oct 11, 2000 8:20 am
... Sort of. You do encounter problems having both a map and a content for an element. ... That's a bit strange; don't you ever need something like...
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Stefan Haustein
haustein@...
Oct 11, 2000 10:13 am
... If you are searching for a pull based common XML parser, take a look at http://www.kxml.de Best, Stefan -- Stefan Haustein Univ. Dortmund, FB 4, LS 8...
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Clark C. Evans
cce@...
Oct 11, 2000 1:19 pm
... Of course we could represent such a structure using the MinML syntax, however, MinXML itself is, IMHO, too weak. ... This might be going off the deep end,...
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Clark C. Evans
cce@...
Oct 11, 2000 1:25 pm
... Nice; a dramatic improvement over SAX. Perhaps we should spend some time reviewing what you have done. Stefan could you summarize your approach for us? I...
3626
Stefan Haustein
haustein@...
Oct 11, 2000 1:32 pm
... Couldn't you use call-by-reference in C instead of returning event objects? Best, Stefan -- Stefan Haustein Univ. Dortmund, FB 4, LS 8 tel: +49 231 755...
3627
Clark C. Evans
cce@...
Oct 11, 2000 1:43 pm
... Are you suggesting a COM like interface? (and using the counted pointer pattern?) This shifts the burden of memory administration onto the information...
3628
Mike.Champion@...
Oct 11, 2000 2:04 pm
All the things we foretold a year ago are coming to pass ... the complexity of the XML family of specs is overwhelming the consumers of it (see the trade press...
3629
Stefan Haustein
haustein@...
Oct 11, 2000 2:07 pm
... I was suggesting using something like int kxml_peek_type (); int kxml_read_text (char* user_buffer, int max_size); but for start-tags that would become...
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Stefan Haustein
haustein@...
Oct 11, 2000 3:02 pm
... thanks :-) ... Well, the main difference to push parsers is that you can ask for the next parse event when-/whereever you want. There is no need to...
3631
Paul Tchistopolskii
pault12@...
Oct 11, 2000 3:39 pm
... From: Stefan Haustein <haustein@...> ... ... to do that I need to provide parser with the knowledge of the schema. Yeah, with the...
3632
Clark C. Evans
cce@...
Oct 11, 2000 3:54 pm
... Well, something like Stefan's parser interface is *exactly* what we should have had a few years back -- It's a quick win -- what do you all say that we...
3633
Stefan Haustein
haustein@...
Oct 11, 2000 4:27 pm
... No problem, it's LGPLed anyway... Best, Stefan -- Stefan Haustein Univ. Dortmund, FB 4, LS 8 tel: +49 231 755 2499 Baroper Str. 301 fax: +49...
