... oriented ... require a ... the ... line ... I meant xml documents from document oriented applications. Ie. the documents that use (need) mixed content, and...
Sjoerd Visscher
sjoerd_visscher@...
Feb 1, 2001 12:49 pm
4360
... Actually, I don't think the underscore would be required. ... Right. ... I prefer #a since it makes for more readable texts. And others like #b since they...
Clark C. Evans
cce@...
Feb 3, 2001 12:17 pm
4361
I just thought that I'd mention, if we go with a global name convention (for names with two or more periods) like "timesheet.clarkevans.com" there is a very...
Clark C. Evans
cce@...
Feb 3, 2001 12:31 pm
4362
I put my thoughts up at http://www.yaml.org/ It'd be interesting to get your feedback. Anyway, i'm busy full-time working on contract projects; so I don't ...
Clark C. Evans
cce@...
Feb 3, 2001 2:31 pm
4363
Why are you looking for a strictly-typed version? Sjoerd Visscher w3future.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get...
Sjoerd Visscher
sjoerd_visscher@...
Feb 3, 2001 4:14 pm
4364
... concern: What ... Didn't we used the '_' so that globally unique element names would be easily recognized by a parser? It's a lot easier to detect an ...
Sjoerd Visscher
sjoerd_visscher@...
Feb 3, 2001 4:30 pm
4365
... The parser really shouldn't care should it? I mean, the name as a whole is all that counts; that it is globally unique is just a nice bonus. From that...
Clark C. Evans
cce@...
Feb 3, 2001 5:47 pm
4366
... For the same reason that we put the "variable-name" as part of the data stream too... afterall, one of the primary differences between XML and binary ...
Clark C. Evans
cce@...
Feb 3, 2001 5:55 pm
4367
... I've always viewed this as a bug, not a feature, of XML. Unfortunately, one we're stuck with. Redundancy and verbosity are bad for both humans and ...
Mark S. Miller
markm@...
Feb 3, 2001 6:08 pm
4368
... OK, I can see why you'd want to have types as part of the markup. I wouldn't want it, but it also wasn't my question. I want to know why you want strict...
Sjoerd Visscher
sjoerd_visscher@...
Feb 3, 2001 6:16 pm
4369
... That's funny. XML is way more readable than that E language. As you program in E, you find E human readable, so XML is definately human readable. Human...
Sjoerd Visscher
sjoerd_visscher@...
Feb 3, 2001 6:24 pm
4370
... Actually, strict typing brings with it many benifits. I'm concerned with program correctness and I'm now starting to do some programing with ML. Thus...
Clark C. Evans
cce@...
Feb 3, 2001 6:46 pm
4371
... I am sorry, but to somebody from the small embedded systems world this just isn't minimal at all. A test like "does name begin with underscore" is. Anyway,...
Philip Nye
philip@...
Feb 5, 2001 9:19 am
4372
Hi Guys, I was away for a while and had a lot of catching up to do... Here are some comments about the last 50 messages or so: - I strongly believe that the...
Oren Ben-Kiki
orenbk@...
Feb 8, 2001 10:57 am
4373
... needs ... Hear hear! It is also a lot easier for those who do not wish to use standardised names to simply avoid the leading "_" (it is already reserved ...
Philip Nye
philip@...
Feb 8, 2001 11:52 am
4374
... I 100% agree with you message, but I'd like to know how you'd like to color data. Just adding a _type child element? Sjoerd Visscher w3future.com ...
Sjoerd Visscher
sjoerd_visscher@...
Feb 8, 2001 11:55 am
4375
... Sure, why not? Have fun, Oren Ben-Kiki...
Oren Ben-Kiki
orenbk@...
Feb 8, 2001 12:04 pm
4376
Ok. We seem to have a concensus on two points: 1. Leading underscore for global names 2. tld.domain.... or java order Most of us feel that (1) is necessary to...
Clark C. Evans
cce@...
Feb 8, 2001 2:26 pm
4377
... No, it's OK. Just checking if you had a brilliant new idea. It should only have a somewhat more exiting use, other than only "int" and "float". Sjoerd...
Sjoerd Visscher
sjoerd_visscher@...
Feb 8, 2001 2:40 pm
4378
... I don't like the thought of _anything_ depending on counting periods. Not when there's a trivial alternative. And it isn't as if the one extra period will...
Oren Ben-Kiki
orenbk@...
Feb 8, 2001 4:39 pm
4379
... There is no reason why an automated process would need to count periods. The point is that names beginning with an underscore are global; no need for an...
Clark C. Evans
cce@...
Feb 8, 2001 5:49 pm
4380
... There's something to that, but I'm not 100% certain of this. I can envision cases where the distinction should be made or it would be beneficial for it to...
Oren Ben-Kiki
orenbk@...
Feb 8, 2001 5:57 pm
4381
... Rather easily. A ValueNode.children() is an empty list, and BranchNode.literal() is an empty string. And of course, we have our "derived" value function,...
Clark C. Evans
cce@...
Feb 8, 2001 5:59 pm
4382
... If there's a need to differentiate, it would at least be high-level. Lower-level layers could simply have a short list of global elements it supports. ... ...
Sjoerd Visscher
sjoerd_visscher@...
Feb 8, 2001 6:07 pm
4383
... I had a data model on my website that made the distinction between map and list. It didn't work. I needed things like a title for the list. In XML this is...
Sjoerd Visscher
sjoerd_visscher@...
Feb 8, 2001 6:10 pm
4384
... Your paper describes something "isomorphic" to Don's Rythemic notation, where he uses nesting depth to make the map/list distinction you use a reserved...
Clark C. Evans
cce@...
Feb 8, 2001 6:24 pm
4385
... Actually, you could, internally. Techniques like lazy evaluation and caching would also do wonders to access speed. ... Right, but I think that this would...
Oren Ben-Kiki
orenbk@...
Feb 8, 2001 6:44 pm
4386
... Now there is no distinction between properties and content. An application can only do something usefull with this if it exactly knows which element is...
Sjoerd Visscher
sjoerd_visscher@...
Feb 8, 2001 7:02 pm
4387
... The argument against attributes was always that this: <tag att="foo">... Could always be replaced by this: <tag><att>foo</att>... The underlying assumption...
Philip Nye
philip@...
Feb 9, 2001 9:54 am
4388
... But I need both: Always when I have a list of data, I need to say a few things about the collection as a whole. Like how it should be displayed. VVM makes...
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