I just stumbled upon SML a few days ago when researching Caucho's implementation of EJB (apparently they're using SML as the format for their Burlap RPC...
will_conant@...
Apr 7, 2001 5:01 pm
4534
... That's pretty much the definitive Minimal XML. Minimal XML is in some sense "complete" because there is nothing left to take away that would leave us with...
mchamp@...
Apr 7, 2001 5:24 pm
4535
... From recent discussions, there seems to have been consensus on a few changes to Minimal-XML. Specifically, to allow and ignore the xml declaration and the...
Mark S. Miller
markm@...
Apr 8, 2001 5:20 am
4536
... few changes ... declaration and ... was also ... consensus ... would also ... To put it more practically, Minimal-XML is elements only, and when you are...
Sjoerd Visscher
sjoerd_visscher@...
Apr 8, 2001 10:32 am
4537
... In the absence of such terms, what does it means for Minimal-XML to be a standard? What would it mean for someone to say that a given file conforms to...
Mark S. Miller
markm@...
Apr 8, 2001 4:21 pm
4538
... From: "Sjoerd Visscher" <sjoerd_visscher@...> To: <sml-dev@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 11:31 AM Subject: [sml-dev] Re: status of...
John Wilson
tug@...
Apr 8, 2001 6:32 pm
4539
... From: <will_conant@...> To: <sml-dev@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 6:00 PM Subject: [sml-dev] status of SML ... I took a look at...
John Wilson
tug@...
Apr 8, 2001 6:41 pm
4540
... For my use, I only care about the xml and DOCTYPE declarations. But I desperately care to see some decision on what is officially Minimal-XML. Don, care...
Mark S. Miller
markm@...
Apr 8, 2001 6:54 pm
4541
... From: "Mark S. Miller" <markm@...> To: <sml-dev@yahoogroups.com> Cc: <sml-dev@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 2:51 PM Subject: Re:...
Michael Champion
mchamp@...
Apr 8, 2001 7:07 pm
4542
... Mark, I can update the spec, but I don't think we have reached a concensus yet. IMHO, the consensus cannot be reached until 'minimal' and 'practical' view...
Don Park
donpark@...
Apr 9, 2001 7:03 am
4543
... Common-XML = Minimal-XML + Attributes + Mixed content + Really minor stuff. So what would Practical-XML be? Without attributes or without mixed content? I...
Oren Ben-Kiki
orenbk@...
Apr 9, 2001 10:38 am
4544
... From: "Oren Ben-Kiki" <orenbk@...> To: <sml-dev@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 11:39 AM Subject: RE: [sml-dev] Re: status of SML ... ...
John Wilson
tug@...
Apr 9, 2001 7:35 pm
4545
... minor stuff. ... content? ... ... I use attributes ( they allow serialization of YML into XML ) ... I use mixed content ( because of <descr> some...
pault12@...
Apr 9, 2001 10:10 pm
4546
... If it is any consolation to you, I don't see it either. What I want is Minimal-XML plus reasonable compatibility with growing number of XML standards out...
Don Park
donpark@...
Apr 9, 2001 10:12 pm
4547
... My opinion differs on this issue. I would like to see Practical-XML support SNUG (Simple Namespace Usage Guideline) which allows default XML namespace...
Don Park
donpark@...
Apr 9, 2001 10:17 pm
4548
... I think it looks like a strategic mistake - trying to keep in sync with growing number of XML standards. I know I'm annoying, but I think monsters can not...
pault12@...
Apr 9, 2001 10:20 pm
4549
... was ... SGML. ... I think this is because you want compatibility with W3C's XML. In fact, namespace is just one more color for a node, why bother with ...
pault12@...
Apr 9, 2001 10:22 pm
4550
... Don't worry about annoying me. I am all-knowing too. <g> What I want is to get XML namespaces at half-price. SNUG lets me use important standards like...
Don Park
donpark@...
Apr 9, 2001 10:30 pm
4551
... I don't understand why you need the 'namespace' entity in SML to process XML-DSIG. I mean that if SML has attributes, the 'namespaces' functionality could...
pault12@...
Apr 9, 2001 10:38 pm
4552
... I now see what got you worked up. Yes, I agree. As long as SNUG is possible, the word 'namespace' does not have appear in Practical- XML spec. - Don...
Don Park
donpark@...
Apr 9, 2001 10:53 pm
4553
Are you "MS-Certified-XML-developer" ? I'm not ;-) http://www.pault.com/X/987224675 Just a joke. Sorry for the offtopic. Rgds.Paul....
Paul Tchistopolskii
pault12@...
Apr 14, 2001 5:41 am
4554
1. Mixed content is in. 2. Attribures are in. 2.a Only single quotes are used... ( a="b" is illegal ) (?) 2.b Attribute value can not contain single quote. (?)...
Paul Tchistopolskii
pault12@...
May 8, 2001 6:18 pm
4555
... From: Paul Tchistopolskii <pault12@...> To: <sml-dev@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 8:26 PM Subject: Status of Minimal XML. Last call?...
Paul Tchistopolskii
pault12@...
May 8, 2001 6:35 pm
4556
How is this significantly different from Common XML Core? Minimal XML with attributes and mixed content is probably the minimal subset that lets you do useful,...
mchamp@...
May 8, 2001 7:24 pm
4557
From: "Paul Tchistopolskii" ... No. Minimal and mixed do not combine. If you need some markup, encode HTML with <'s It is current practice in the popular...
Sjoerd Visscher
sjoerd@...
May 8, 2001 7:28 pm
4558
From: "Paul Tchistopolskii" ... Sax doesn't have to be a sane lexer, it should be a lexer that ensures interoperability. Infoset has chosen not to...
Sjoerd Visscher
sjoerd@...
May 8, 2001 7:34 pm
4559
... It is not significantly different. ... minimal subset ... more than ... I've tried to use Minimal XML ( elements only ) for some relatively complex 'pure...
pault12@...
May 8, 2001 8:26 pm
4560
... encode HTML ... RPC 1. Why it do not combine? 2. Maybe, you're right with the encoding ... I need to think. ... encoded ... Agree with both. ... ...
pault12@...
May 8, 2001 8:53 pm
4561
... Could you give some examples, and explain how you used that data during further processing in the application? Were the Minimal XML files human-written or...
Sjoerd Visscher
sjoerd@...
May 8, 2001 9:07 pm
4562
... ensures ... so sax ... The hell with the 'infoset' then. Same to 'XML is building on namespaces' and to any other machinery, produced by W3C. I need a...
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