I'm in the process of (re-)designing my own little serialization language I call LGRAM. I've been recommended a look at YAML. So here I am and here is my first...
Mathieu Bouchard
matju@...
Sep 2, 2001 2:17 am
4912
... I'm replying to this on YAML-CORE, as it is out of topic here in SML-DEV. Have fun, Oren Ben-Kiki...
Oren Ben-Kiki
orenbk@...
Sep 4, 2001 7:37 am
4913
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Sep 12, 2001 11:25 pm
4914
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Sep 18, 2001 11:51 am
4915
To my surprise, I'm now revisiting the SML approach again... First I think, "attributes belong to syntax, but not to model". One can say - no, attributes are...
PaulT
pault12@...
Sep 27, 2001 12:30 am
4916
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Sep 27, 2001 2:11 pm
4917
... Well, this depends really on how you define attributes. But as XML is completely defined in terms of syntax, attributes are syntax. ... The view isn't...
Sjoerd Visscher
sjoerd_visscher@...
Sep 30, 2001 8:43 pm
4918
From: "Sjoerd Visscher" <sjoerd_visscher@...> ... 'Not in the model, but in the syntax' means that <a attr="text"> could be replaced with ...
PaulT
pault12@...
Sep 30, 2001 11:31 pm
4919
... <a> <attr>some text</attr> <attr>another text</attr> </a> In attribute-less model, uniqueness constraint needs to be mapped to 'first occurance'. So that...
Don Park
donpark@...
Oct 1, 2001 12:53 am
4920
... From: "Don Park" <donpark@...> ... 'first ... a.attr[1] ... On first glance - I think it does. I think I was blind here. But I think it is *not*...
PaulT
pault12@...
Oct 1, 2001 3:57 am
4921
... say you have a map class and a list class; then it is trivial to create a new class that is a pair of those. In my own little data format, if I have: (Hash...
Mathieu Bouchard
matju@...
Oct 1, 2001 5:24 am
4922
... You are probably right. I have hard enough time figuring out what I am saying. <g> - Don...
Don Park
donpark@...
Oct 1, 2001 12:04 pm
4923
... I think we can all agree with this. The problem is to find the right solution for it. ... Well, life would be much simpler if we all agreed on what model...
Sjoerd Visscher
sjoerd_visscher@...
Oct 1, 2001 8:55 pm
4924
... Yes, ofcourse. And the DOM does this by having a Node class, with an 'attributes' Hash property and a 'childNodes' Array property. The problem arises when...
Sjoerd Visscher
sjoerd_visscher@...
Oct 1, 2001 9:26 pm
4925
... From: "Sjoerd Visscher" <sjoerd_visscher@...> ... It could be that some intuitive breakthrough may be the only possible solution here. I feel that...
PaulT
pault12@...
Oct 1, 2001 9:42 pm
4926
... My point is that one big structure that does everything is not a universal model: it's just several distinct things that are forced to be together....
Mathieu Bouchard
matju@...
Oct 1, 2001 11:18 pm
4927
... Don't forget that, besides adding hash-like features to the list, I still want to have a hash next to it. There's a big difference. The hash works more...
Sjoerd Visscher
sjoerd_visscher@...
Oct 2, 2001 3:22 pm
4928
... I agree in principle, but I can not connect the dots. Could you please show some more example? ( And still, we disagree on attributes, I think ) ... I did...
PaulT
pault12@...
Oct 4, 2001 3:41 am
4929
... See below. ... Absolutely. :) ... Because the split between map and list can also be seen as the split between data and metadata. Or putting it...
Sjoerd Visscher
sjoerd_visscher@...
Oct 4, 2001 8:43 am
4930
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Oct 6, 2001 2:59 am
4931
Working on some mix of terse-xml ( I'm slowly migrating towards Tom's view, actually ) and regular expressions. Still need to find something like 'magical...
PaulT
pault12@...
Oct 13, 2001 5:37 am
4932
... In YAML: % =: Some FONT: face: Arial size: +1 % =: bold FONT: face: Arial size: +1 B: A: href: localhost % =: text Have fun, Oren Ben-Kiki...
Oren Ben-Kiki
orenbk@...
Oct 14, 2001 1:07 pm
4933
... How about this instead? P=[ FONT=[ @face="Arial" @size="+1" "Some" B=[ A=[ @href="http://localhost" "bold" ] ] ] "text" ] The grammar would be pretty...
Tom Bradford
bradford@...
Oct 14, 2001 5:48 pm
4934
Just for my curiosity, ... Is there (or could there be) any similarities between XDuce and MinML (or maybe rather YAML)? http://xduce.sourceforge.net/ Eric -- ...
Eric van der Vlist
vdv@...
Oct 14, 2001 6:26 pm
4935
Thanks Tom and Oren, YAML looks scary to me ;-) I think that's because I'm not a computer ;-) I need to think about both postings. I think I should elaborate a...
PaulT
pault12@...
Oct 14, 2001 8:08 pm
4936
... At a glance, It looks like an alternative syntax for MinML, with an integrated (DTD based) schema language and an integrated transformation language. As...
Oren Ben-Kiki
orenbk@...
Oct 15, 2001 8:08 am
4937
So, I want a 'universal binding' mechanism for XML. I don't want a direct binding to *current* XML model ( nodeset ), but instead I want some brutal binding to...
I'm excited about Chunks. It is intuitive, fast, and I can map anything into Chunks. I tried with that purchase order stuff ;-). It somehow enforces something...
... This seems very similar to the model for Rhythmic-XML. Each map contained keys whose values are either scalars (as for your '#value') or lists of maps (as...
Oren Ben-Kiki
orenbk@...
Oct 18, 2001 6:55 am
4940
Many thanks! I was sure that it was discussed before! So this is Don's model + "attibutes don't clash with children" view + some twist with arrays ( I'l show...
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