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Re: IP & SW patents [was: Hash function -- Realia/single_count]


----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Koenig" <ark@...>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <snobol4@...>
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: IP & SW patents [was: Hash function -- Realia/single_count]


> My opinion on software patents:
>
> According to the US Constitution, patents exist for a specific purpose
> (promote progress of science and useful arts) by a specific means
> (secure exclusive rights to the originator for a limited time).
>
> It seems to me that the fundamental idea is a kind of bargain with the
> government: In exchange for protection against others using one's
> ideas for a while, one must agree to turn those ideas over to the
> public when that while is over.
>
> In order for such a bargain to be useful, the ``while'' has to be
> short compared to the overall expected life of the invention.
> I don't think that is the case with software patents at present.
Tue Jul 10, 2001 12:34 am

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- About ... Intellectual_Property and Software_Patents...: On Sat, 30 Jun 2001 dewar@... wrote: ...snipped... Mike ... Robert ... ..and... On Sun, 1 Jul... 		Mike Radow
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<<?Are _hardware_ patents OK? ?Are _genetic_ patents acceptable? ?Are _design_ patents reasonable? ?But *_not_* _software_ patents? Hmmm... ... In each case,...
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- Robert: Thanks for your thoughtful reply: Appreciated! Of special note are your observations that...: On Thu, 5 Jul 2001 dewar@... wrote: ...snipped... ...
Mike Radow
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I am of two minds regarding patents. Some things I immediatly give over to public domain. But other things need to be kept under control, if they are to be...
Greg White
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Send Email 		Jul 5, 2001
9:58 pm

I am of two minds regarding patents. Some things I immediatly give over to public domain. But other things need to be kept under control, if they are to be...
Greg White
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Send Email 		Jul 5, 2001
9:58 pm

<< As we all know, it's common to "buy" employees with key knowledge, _especially_ when these are *not* the key innovators, but just greedy minor...
dewar@...
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- On Thu, 5 Jul 2001 dewar@... wrote: ...snipped... Mike ... - ... - In theory, you are -- of course -- correct. Having tried to get recourse, as a...
Mike Radow
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<<In theory, you are -- of course -- correct. Having tried to get recourse, as a "practical_matter", I can assre you that the protection provided by trade...
dewar@...
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My opinion on software patents: According to the US Constitution, patents exist for a specific purpose (promote progress of science and useful arts) by a...
Andrew Koenig
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dewar> In each case, the issue is whether or not the patents promote dewar> progress, if they do, then fine, if not, then they are dewar> unconstitutional. I...
Andrew Koenig
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Send Email 		Jul 6, 2001
2:42 pm

<<It seems to me that the fundamental idea is a kind of bargain with the government: In exchange for protection against others using one's ideas for a while,...
dewar@...
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2:58 pm

<<I would argue that the real question is whether the patent system as a whole promotes progress, not whether every individual patent promotes progress. ... We...
dewar@...
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- On Thu, 5 Jul 2001 dewar@... wrote: ...snipped... Mike ... Robert ... - Actually, I am generalizing from doing this for 20+ years. During this time I've...
Mike Radow
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<<Two issues here...: 1. I'm asking for alternatives to protecting the IP, created by the innovative folks at our investments. Incentives _must_be_...
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- On Fri, 6 Jul 2001, Andrew Koenig wrote: ...snipped... - ... ..and... On Fri, 6 Jul 2001 Robert Dewar wrote: ...snipped... - ... .. ... - I agree with all of...
Mike Radow
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... Unfortunately, as Apple and many other firms have discovered, technical superiority does not consistently result in marketing superiority, nor in revenue...
Dennis Newbold
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<<Unfortunately, as Apple and many other firms have discovered, technical superiority does not consistently result in marketing superiority, nor in revenue...
dewar@...
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I always thought that copyright was more applicable for written code than a patent. But then you people in usa can even patent genes that don't belong to you....
Greg White
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- On Fri, 6 Jul 2001 dewar@... wrote: ...snipped... - ... - ??? New here |||...: It this "Intellectual Property Rights", other? Thanks. Mike - - ...
Mike Radow
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right IPR = intellectual property rights ......
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... From: "Andrew Koenig" <ark@...> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <snobol4@...> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 9:34 AM Subject: Re:...
Dave Feustel
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Perhaps a professional trade secret, may sometimes be better than a patent, secrets are very often disclosed, but patents are nearly always broken. I have...
Greg White
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