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Re: [soapbuilders] Multiple WS-Addresses in multiple namespaces

Hi Steve:

Steve Loughran wrote:
> > The SOAP spec itself can't (and arguably shouldn't) handle this kind
> > of thing itself.
>
> Well, then -why didnt WS-A to have some guidelines for the problem.
>
> Given that the WS-RF 1.0 spec depends on two different drafts of WS-A,
> surely it should have been obvious that there were going to be legacy
> addresses out there.

I agree, and I would suggest that feedback/errata be offered to the WSA
working group. I haven't had time to scan the archives, but I'm sure
this came up during the course of the WG discussions (not that you'd
know it by reading the specs). It would be nice to see some mention of
how to deal with multiple versions in there.

> Life is so much simpler with URLs. You cannot post a request to three
> different URLs, and if you use the element in the message body to
> select your action, its inherently impossible to hae duplicate
> payloads.

I don't think this is a particularly valid comparison. It would be more
like adding multiple versioned HTTP headers rather than posting to
different URLs. The point of SOAP headers is that they modify, not
replace, the (potentially non-extensible) content of a message.

--Glen



Thu Feb 1, 2007 2:53 pm

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I know having more than <wsa:To> or wsa:MessageID header in your Soap message is a nono, for any binding of wsa: to the various draft and final WS-A releases. ...
Steve Loughran
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Hi Steve, ... Looking at this practically - if the correct WSA (and other) headers are present (and in the SAME namespace), then it seems possible that the ...
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Jan 29, 2007
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... Yes, I am thinking of how best to handle the situation on my end. I currently work back from newest to oldest namespaces looking for a match, and ignore...
Steve Loughran
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... That seems reasonable... ... That seems reasonable too ;) ... Right. I just don't think you should feel too secure about sending all three together. It...
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Steve, The WS-A implementations I have knowledge of both take the (c) approach and only process one namespace. This means that when mustUnderstand processing...
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Jan 29, 2007
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Hi Steve ... I raised this very issue in my position paper [1] to the W3C Workshop on Enterprise computing, and see it as a fundamental consequence of SOAP not...
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Jan 30, 2007
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Hi Paul! ... While I don't necessarily disagree with this (and believe me, the discussion as to processing order was a big one back in the early days of XMLP),...
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... or you understand none, which again, is unimportant. ... Well, then -why didnt WS-A to have some guidelines for the problem. Given that the WS-RF 1.0 spec...
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Hi Steve: ... I agree, and I would suggest that feedback/errata be offered to the WSA working group. I haven't had time to scan the archives, but I'm sure ...
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... well, I shall modify my servlet engine to support multiple Host fields in the get request to make its http layer more consistent :)...
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... One of my great regrets about the SOAP Recommendation is that it does not make crystal clear an aspect of the design that I considered to be very ...
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On 2/7/07, noah_mendelsohn@... <noah_mendelsohn@...> wrote: ." ... aah. Soap1.2. Soap 1.1 says nothing about where the headers are validated,...
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... Well, my reading of the ws-i basic profile is that it says the same thing regarding SOAP 1.1 [1]: "R1025 A RECEIVER MUST handle messages in such a way...
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... Sometimes I suspect complexity is the underlying problem. Like WSDL. Its almost impossible for humans to write, so what you get is a mess, compared to,...
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