Re: [soapbuilders] [Political]: Extending another 24 hours
Dave, I don't know if you want to count this as "signing up" or not. You
decide.
The goal Apache xml-soap project (and it's follow on xml-axis) continues to
be to develop an open and complete implementation of the SOAP 1.1 (and
W3C's follow-on standard XP).
A corollary of this statement would be we intend to support any subset
thereof, including the BDG subset you defined. A caution however - should
there ever surface a difference between a proported subset and the
published standard, we will comply with the standard.
Meanwhile, I do plan to meet face to face with a number of Apache
developers at ApacheCon next week, and my offer to host a face to face for
soapbuilders on the 19th and 20th in Raleigh still stands.
I marked this message as primarily political. Please, if you don't care to know about the politics of this work, don't read this message. ;-> In about two...
Dave Winer
dave@...
Mar 30, 2001 3:19 pm
Dave, I don't know if you want to count this as "signing up" or not. You decide. The goal Apache xml-soap project (and it's follow on xml-axis) continues to ...
Sam Ruby
rubys@...
Mar 30, 2001 5:14 pm
Sam, after our rough beginning, thank you very much for this respectful and very welcome response. I totally accept this point of view, and am *almost* fully...
Dave Winer
dave@...
Mar 30, 2001 5:21 pm
... Snapshot your document whenever you like. In my opinion, in this business "functionally stabilized" is just another euphamism for dead. ... While...
Sam Ruby
rubys@...
Mar 30, 2001 6:16 pm
Hi, Sam! I have another concern. ApacheSOAP introduced SOAPStruct and bound it to 'http://xml.apache.org/xml-soap' as far as I remember. For interop services...
Paul Kulchenko
paulclinger@...
Mar 30, 2001 6:40 pm
Paul, The Apache ilab interop point that I have up at XMethods registered the qualified xsi:type "http://www.xmethods.com/services:SOAPStruct" as a type that...
Tony Hong
thong@...
Mar 31, 2001 9:36 am
Hi Tony, Do you have a POV on the issue with specifying or not specifying types on struct elements? I'm looking for some direction here, so that I can resolve...
Jake Savin
jake@...
Mar 31, 2001 9:42 am
Hi Jake, In the case specifically of Apache and struct typing (which is where the issue is , right?) As you may know, since 2.1, Apache allows the deployer to...
Tony Hong
thong@...
Mar 31, 2001 9:52 am
Comments inline. -Jake ... Yes, I think that's correct, but nobody has told me if any other implementations specify type explicitly for struct elements. ... I...
Jake Savin
jake@...
Mar 31, 2001 10:16 am
For the benefit of list members, this is the last item on my outstanding issues lists for the BDG: http://jake.soapware.org/outstandingBdgIssues#structTyping ...
Jake Savin
jake@...
Mar 31, 2001 11:53 am
Hi, Tony! ... Right, I know it, but that's exactly my point. Why for standard type (Struct) we should have custom namespace? Why don't make it permanent and...
Paul Kulchenko
paulclinger@...
Mar 31, 2001 3:40 pm
Hi paul, I think the way the apache engine is thinking about it here, is that the type isn't being associated with the fact that it's simply a struct, but that...
Tony Hong
thong@...
Mar 31, 2001 5:40 pm
Hi, All! When I send iso-8859-1 with cyrillic symbols, it returns correct with utf-8 encoding: request: <?xml version="1.0"...
Paul Kulchenko
paulclinger@...
Mar 30, 2001 9:11 pm
I'm not sure I understand the motivation for BDG .. is it a subset of SOAP that's interoperable *today* with various implementations or a subset that's the...
Sanjiva Weerawarana
sanjiva@...
Mar 30, 2001 6:21 pm
... what he said ;-) (well, replace Apache with PythonWare, and xml-soap with soaplib.py, etc. you get the idea...) Cheers /F...
Fredrik Lundh
fredrik@...
Mar 30, 2001 6:25 pm
Sanjiva.. Sorry for the delay in responding. Things have gotten very busy. Briefly.. 1. The motivation is interop. I want to be able to write applications that...
Dave Winer
dave@...
Mar 30, 2001 7:08 pm
... from the stupid questions department: why not just leave it out? if there is no xsi:type attribute, assume it's a struct (unless you have metadata that...
Fredrik Lundh
fredrik@...
Mar 31, 2001 8:59 am
inline. -Jake ... I'm leaning in this direction, but I would really like to hear from an Apache person before making a decision on this point. Also, I don't...
Jake Savin
jake@...
Mar 31, 2001 9:05 am
Hi, Frederik! ... That's exactly what I'm doing now. Ony case I can see whan you may need it is to distinguish between empty string (untyped) and empty struct:...
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