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Dealing with SOAP 1.2 before WSDL 1.2 comes out   Message List  
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Re: [soapbuilders] Dealing with SOAP 1.2 before WSDL 1.2 comes out

Hi,

We can use WSDL but it is not required, currently the plan is to
support SOAP 1.2 without any explicit WSDL support.

There have been a number of significant changes in SOAP 1.2 since that
prototype binding was put together, particular around arrays, RPC and
faults, I'm not sure that it's still entirely suitable.

I'd prefer to wait for WSDL 1.2 however if that is a significant
amount of time away ( e.g. > 6 months ), I would be open to supporting
an interim solution based on WSDL 1.1 that this community reaches
consensus on.

<devils-advocate>If we have WSDL 1.1 binding for SOAP 1.1 and SOAP 1.2
that include soap encoding, and numerous people have implemented
support for it, why would we move to WDSL 1.2 ? (especially given the
plan to drop soap encoding support from WSDL 1.2)</devils-advocate>

Cheers
Simon
www.pocketsoap.com

On Mon, 19 May 2003 21:07:56 -0400, in ws you wrote:

>
>Hi y'all:
>
>With my WS-Description hat on, I've taken the action of asking this group of
esteemed SOAP developers to comment on the following issue. Please take a
moment to read and respond if you can, especially if you were involved in the
SOAP 1.2 testing over the last few months.
>
>Here's the context. We're trying to figure out how to deal with the fact that
the WSDL 1.2 spec is not yet fully fleshed out enough to use without worrying
unduly about major changes. Since this is the case, WSDL 1.1 seems like the
description technology to use for now - but WSDL 1.1 does not yet have a
"blessed" SOAP 1.2 binding, and SOAP 1.2 is on the way out the door of the W3C
process. So....
>
>How do you plan to move your products to SOAP 1.2 in the time period between
the SOAP rec and when WSDL 1.2 stabilizes? Is WSDL essential to use your SOAP
product?
>
>Does the current prototype SOAP-1.2 binding [1] for WSDL 1.1 meet your needs
for the next few months? Are there places where it seems underspecified or
inadequate? Would you support / work on getting this binding sufficiently into
shape that it could be published either by SOAPBuilders directly, as a W3C note,
or perhaps within the realm of another standards organization such as WS-I or
OASIS?
>
>Is it critical to you to have a "standard" or "blessed" WSDL binding for SOAP
1.2? Or will your product attempt to use SOAP 1.1 bindings with some
out-of-band means to enable SOAP 1.2 (an API flag, the VersionMismatch fault,
etc)?
>
>We'd very much appreciate your comments/opinions!
>
>Thank you,
>--Glen
>
>[1] http://groups.yahoo.com/group/soapbuilders/files/soap12WSDL.htm
>
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Hi y'all: With my WS-Description hat on, I've taken the action of asking this group of esteemed SOAP developers to comment on the following issue. Please take...
Glen Daniels
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May 20, 2003
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Hello, The implementation here relies on WSDL bindings to determine which SOAP version to use, and currently supports the prototype SOAP 1.2 binding for WSDL...
Bob Cunnings
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May 20, 2003
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... Ditto. A W3C Note that came out of the WSDL WG would perhaps be ideal. -- Rich Salz, Chief Security Architect DataPower Technology...
Rich Salz
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May 20, 2003
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... Immediate concerns: - [1] depends on the WSDL 1.1 [3] "Array types should extend the Array type defined in the SOAP v1.1 encoding schema ... (regardless of...
Christopher St. John
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May 20, 2003
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Hi, We can use WSDL but it is not required, currently the plan is to support SOAP 1.2 without any explicit WSDL support. There have been a number of...
Simon Fell
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May 22, 2003
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Hi all, Systinet makes implementations and it is represented in both the XMLP and WS-Description working groups. We expect to move to WSDL 1.2 when it's ready,...
Jacek Kopecky
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May 22, 2003
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... It's not a rumor, it's true. You've said a couple of times that you intend to propose a new schema language, but of course that's not the same thing....
Rich Salz
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May 23, 2003
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... Given that WSDL 1.2 might involve a new schema language, six months seems optimistic :-) ... The Globus/OGSI people seem to really want port inheritance. ...
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... We plan on using the binding defined at [1]. ... It is not essential, however it is commonly used. ... Yes. ... No. ... We believe the binding as it is...
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