SP imports .CUP waypoint files and the format of these files is to have both a
long and short waypoint name.

Since a recent SP release one can select to import into SP either the long or
short name for use in SP.

So my idea is as follows: Why not load both into SP and use the short name on
the moving map and on the waypoints page in the columns, but use the long name
at the top of the waypoints page in the blue title area and on the final glide
page by 'wpt:' where there is more space.

It starts to get to be a problem with many waypoints and abbreviated names.

Just an idea :)

Hi,

I also realized that the LX160 doesn't originate the ordinary
GPS sentences but instead passes on what it receives.  In my case
I have a Volkslogger behind it, which SP accepts just fine in the
Alt setting (so I can use the VL pressure data as the reference
for final glide).  I can switch over to VL at task declare and
logfile download time in SP.

As I was saying earlier, the design point for MC, bugs, and ballast
is to keep them in sync between the vario and SP.  With the LX
family of devices that isn't universally possible.  For example,
if SP computed that I should be using 2.5 for MC and I pushed the
switch on my LX160 to set it to 2.0 (since SP can't set it), should
SP now change its MC setting?  Or, am I just picking a more
conservative value in my vario for some tactical reason?

If the two-way communications are possible (did they actually
give you some doc, Mark?) then that would be a good enhancement
though.

-- Matt

--- In soaringpilot@yahoogroups.com, Uri Savoray <uris@...> wrote:
>
> This us great, and I will test it on our LX5000.
> Can you also please implement a switch to use the MC and BAL value from the
vario in SP?
> Thanks again,
> Uri
>
> ________________________________
> From: soaringpilot@yahoogroups.com [mailto:soaringpilot@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Mark Hawkins
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:25 AM
> To: soaringpilot@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [soaringpilot] Re: LX160 redux
>
>
>
> Ok, I sent the changes to Paul for review and release.  However, I just want
to make sure you understand how it's implemented.  Basically, there is now an
LX160 option under Comp type and it get's treated as just a smart vario and it's
not connected to a logger of any kind.  Just a vario.  If you select this, it
switch to LX/Filser for Alt type.
>
> With LX160 selected, in addition to what it's always done for a LXWP0 string,
it does two things:
> 1. Uses the inputted vario value from the LX160.  The averager value is
calculated over 30 seconds from this inputted value.
> 2. As is normally done with the LXWP0 value, this sets SP to use the inputted
winds values from this sentence.  If the LX160 isn't outputting the winds values
then you'll need to go into the Wind Info screen and change the "Wind Calc"
option back to SP.
>
> Paul will release it with his next update.  I'm going to go ahead and send a
copy to Matt.
>
> Matt,
> Please test it out at your earliest opportunity to make sure it's working
correctly.
>
> Later!
>
> -Mark
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 16:53, mattmckrell@...<mailto:mattmckrell@...>
<mattmckrell@...<mailto:mattmckrell@...>> wrote:
>
>
> Way cool! Thanks, guys!
>
>
> --- In soaringpilot@yahoogroups.com<mailto:soaringpilot%40yahoogroups.com>,
"pgleesonuk" <pgleesonuk@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Matt,
> >
> > you are right, getting the data from the vario for the LIFT value will be
much better than using the GPS altitude.
> >
> > Mark is working on revising the LX data routines to extract this data.
Hopefully a new version will appear soon.
> >
> > Paul
> >
>

One last update -- this all works great with Condor now.  I'm
going to spring for the firmware upgrade while the unit is getting
fixed at the factory this winter, plus I have to fabricate a new
octopus cable to wire up the VL, LX, switch, and power unit.
Hopefully I'll have real device feedback sometime around March.

As far as bugs and ballast values, I could almost see the logic
of SP using its own values if the LXWP2 sentence was reporting
null values (1.00).  If the value changes to something else then
SP can use that.  MC would have to be restricted to two-way
devices (almost all the other LX units, including the LX166) and
then only if someone can obtain the protocol from LX.

(I asked them in the past and was rebuffed.  I suspect they're
trying to protect WinPilot from competition, but mostly I think
they're restricting their potential customer base.  If I was
installing from scratch I'd only consider the C302 or B50.)

-- Matt

--- In soaringpilot@yahoogroups.com, Mark Hawkins <markhawke7@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Matt,
> No I didn't get any document.  Just what you sent for the additional vario
> info.
>
> As you have pointed out, since there is only one-way connectivity, IF we
> implement using the MC, balast and bugs info, it means that you won't be
> able to change those values on SP.  If you change them, the next sentence
> that comes in will simply change it back.  I'm not sure that is what you
> want, right?  We have an option in the program to select whether to use
> input winds or let SP calculate them.  However, there are no such options in
> the program for bugs, balast and MC.  It would be a decent amount of work to
> add them.  Just finding screen space isn't that easy.  So please weigh that
> in any discussions about adding this.
>
> Let us know what you think.
>
> Later!
>
> -Mark
>
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 15:28, mattmckrell@... <
> mattmckrell@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I also realized that the LX160 doesn't originate the ordinary
> > GPS sentences but instead passes on what it receives. In my case
> > I have a Volkslogger behind it, which SP accepts just fine in the
> > Alt setting (so I can use the VL pressure data as the reference
> > for final glide). I can switch over to VL at task declare and
> > logfile download time in SP.
> >
> > As I was saying earlier, the design point for MC, bugs, and ballast
> > is to keep them in sync between the vario and SP. With the LX
> > family of devices that isn't universally possible. For example,
> > if SP computed that I should be using 2.5 for MC and I pushed the
> > switch on my LX160 to set it to 2.0 (since SP can't set it), should
> > SP now change its MC setting? Or, am I just picking a more
> > conservative value in my vario for some tactical reason?
> >
> > If the two-way communications are possible (did they actually
> > give you some doc, Mark?) then that would be a good enhancement
> > though.
> >
> > -- Matt
> >
> >
> > --- In soaringpilot@yahoogroups.com <soaringpilot%40yahoogroups.com>, Uri
> > Savoray <uris@> wrote:
> > >
> > > This us great, and I will test it on our LX5000.
> > > Can you also please implement a switch to use the MC and BAL value from
> > the vario in SP?
> > > Thanks again,
> > > Uri
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: soaringpilot@yahoogroups.com
<soaringpilot%40yahoogroups.com>[mailto:
> > soaringpilot@yahoogroups.com <soaringpilot%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf
> > Of Mark Hawkins
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:25 AM
> > > To: soaringpilot@yahoogroups.com <soaringpilot%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [soaringpilot] Re: LX160 redux
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ok, I sent the changes to Paul for review and release. However, I just
> > want to make sure you understand how it's implemented. Basically, there is
> > now an LX160 option under Comp type and it get's treated as just a smart
> > vario and it's not connected to a logger of any kind. Just a vario. If you
> > select this, it switch to LX/Filser for Alt type.
> > >
> > > With LX160 selected, in addition to what it's always done for a LXWP0
> > string, it does two things:
> > > 1. Uses the inputted vario value from the LX160. The averager value is
> > calculated over 30 seconds from this inputted value.
> > > 2. As is normally done with the LXWP0 value, this sets SP to use the
> > inputted winds values from this sentence. If the LX160 isn't outputting the
> > winds values then you'll need to go into the Wind Info screen and change the
> > "Wind Calc" option back to SP.
> > >
> > > Paul will release it with his next update. I'm going to go ahead and send
> > a copy to Matt.
> > >
> > > Matt,
> > > Please test it out at your earliest opportunity to make sure it's working
> > correctly.
> > >
> > > Later!
> > >
> > > -Mark
> > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 16:53, mattmckrell@<mailto:mattmckrell@>
> > <mattmckrell@<mailto:mattmckrell@>> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Way cool! Thanks, guys!
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In soaringpilot@yahoogroups.com <soaringpilot%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:soaringpilot%40yahoogroups.com <soaringpilot%2540yahoogroups.com>>,
> > "pgleesonuk" <pgleesonuk@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Matt,
> > > >
> > > > you are right, getting the data from the vario for the LIFT value will
> > be much better than using the GPS altitude.
> > > >
> > > > Mark is working on revising the LX data routines to extract this data.
> > Hopefully a new version will appear soon.
> > > >
> > > > Paul
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

 

Been trying to get my Palm T to talk to CONDOR but I'm failing. Can someone give me all the settings required for a USB/Cradle connection to the T, then settings for SP and finally, for CONDOR? Thanks in anticipation. Regards, Tony Lintott

-- G. Frank Paynter, PhD
Research Scientist
The Ohio State University ElectroScience Lab
paynter.5@...

 

Hey Frank, perhaps this is why I used to use a BT thingy in the past! I'll find the gear you suggest sir, as I've mislaid the BT device. Many thanks, Regards, Tony Lintott --- On Wed, 4/11/09, Frank Paynter <paynter.5@osu.edu> wrote: From: Frank Paynter <paynter.5@osu.edu> Subject: Re: [soaringpilot] Settings To: soaringpilot@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 4 November, 2009, 16:49   Tony, AFAIK, you can't use the USB cable to connect to Condor via NMEA.  However, you *can* use the cradle's serial cable to connect using a serial-to-USB adaptor to connect to your PC (I've been doing this for years).  You will need a serial-to-USB adaptor of course - I use the CEFC one (blue connector, silver cable) from "Cables To Go" (http://www.cablesto go.com/product. asp?cat_id= 1529&sku=26886) and it has worked flawlessly for years. Plug the USB-to-Serial adaptor into the PC (you may have to go through the New Hardware wizard the first time).  In the Device Manager on your PC, locate the 'Prolific USB-to-Serial Comm Port' line and note the port number (COMx) where 'x' is a number.  Right click on this line and select 'Properties' , then click on the 'Port Settings' tab.  Make sure the speed is set at 4800 bps, Data bits = 8, Parity = none, Stop bits = 1, Flow control = none. In Setup/Options, check the 'Enable' box under NMEA output, and make sure the port number is the same one being used by the USB-to-Serial adaptor as noted above.  If you can't find the above port number on the list in Condor, you *may* have to go into the 'Advanced... ' page on the hardware device manager properties page for the USB-to-Serial port and change the port number to something that Condor can see.  This shouldn't be necessary, as Condor should be able to see all comm ports enumerated by the device manager. On the Tungsten T, launch SP and go to Settings and select the "NMEA/Port" settings page.  Make sure the NMEA Input type is set to 'serial' and the baud rate is set for 4800 (Condor outputs at a fixed 4800 bps). That should do it - let me know if you have any trouble, and I'll be happy to help you get going.  You can email me directly at paynter.5@osu. edu or call me at 614 539-3316 (home), 614-638-6749 (cell) here in Columbus, OH (+5 GMT). Regards, Frank Tony Lintott wrote:   Been trying to get my Palm T to talk to CONDOR but I'm failing. Can someone give me all the settings required for a USB/Cradle connection to the T, then settings for SP and finally, for CONDOR? Thanks in anticipation. Regards, Tony Lintott -- G. Frank Paynter, PhD Research Scientist The Ohio State University ElectroScience Lab paynter.5@osu. edu

-- G. Frank Paynter, PhD
Research Scientist
The Ohio State University ElectroScience Lab
paynter.5@...

 

Hi Frank, Have ordered a BT thingy from eBay UK. About $7 delivered !! Do you know whether the settings you gave me before will be the same?  I realise I'll have to set the T to BT, not USB or Serial.... Regards, Tony Lintott --- On Wed, 4/11/09, Frank Paynter <paynter.5@osu.edu> wrote: From: Frank Paynter <paynter.5@osu.edu> Subject: Re: [soaringpilot] Settings To: soaringpilot@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 4 November, 2009, 16:59   Tony, Yep - a 'BT thingy' should work OK too, and it might be cheaper/easier than a USB-to-Serial adaptor.  I think the one on CablesToGo costs around $37 U.S. and you might be able to get a BT adaptor for less than that.  Come to think of it, my current laptop has BT built in - I just never use it! ;-) Regards, Frank Tony Lintott wrote:   Hey Frank, perhaps this is why I used to use a BT thingy in the past! I'll find the gear you suggest sir, as I've mislaid the BT device. Many thanks, Regards, Tony Lintott --- On Wed, 4/11/09, Frank Paynter <paynter.5@osu. edu> wrote: From: Frank Paynter <paynter.5@osu. edu> Subject: Re: [soaringpilot] Settings To: soaringpilot@ yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, 4 November, 2009, 16:49   Tony, AFAIK, you can't use the USB cable to connect to Condor via NMEA.  However, you *can* use the cradle's serial cable to connect using a serial-to-USB adaptor to connect to your PC (I've been doing this for years).  You will need a serial-to-USB adaptor of course - I use the CEFC one (blue connector, silver cable) from "Cables To Go" (http://www.cablesto go.com/product. asp?cat_id= 1529&sku=26886) and it has worked flawlessly for years. Plug the USB-to-Serial adaptor into the PC (you may have to go through the New Hardware wizard the first time).  In the Device Manager on your PC, locate the 'Prolific USB-to-Serial Comm Port' line and note the port number (COMx) where 'x' is a number.  Right click on this line and select 'Properties' , then click on the 'Port Settings' tab.  Make sure the speed is set at 4800 bps, Data bits = 8, Parity = none, Stop bits = 1, Flow control = none. In Setup/Options, check the 'Enable' box under NMEA output, and make sure the port number is the same one being used by the USB-to-Serial adaptor as noted above.  If you can't find the above port number on the list in Condor, you *may* have to go into the 'Advanced... ' page on the hardware device manager properties page for the USB-to-Serial port and change the port number to something that Condor can see.  This shouldn't be necessary, as Condor should be able to see all comm ports enumerated by the device manager. On the Tungsten T, launch SP and go to Settings and select the "NMEA/Port" settings page.  Make sure the NMEA Input type is set to 'serial' and the baud rate is set for 4800 (Condor outputs at a fixed 4800 bps). That should do it - let me know if you have any trouble, and I'll be happy to help you get going.  You can email me directly at paynter.5@osu. edu or call me at 614 539-3316 (home), 614-638-6749 (cell) here in Columbus, OH (+5 GMT). Regards, Frank Tony Lintott wrote:   Been trying to get my Palm T to talk to CONDOR but I'm failing. Can someone give me all the settings required for a USB/Cradle connection to the T, then settings for SP and finally, for CONDOR? Thanks in anticipation. Regards, Tony Lintott -- G. Frank Paynter, PhD Research Scientist The Ohio State University ElectroScience Lab paynter.5@osu. edu -- G. Frank Paynter, PhD Research Scientist The Ohio State University ElectroScience Lab paynter.5@osu. edu

-- G. Frank Paynter, PhD
Research Scientist
The Ohio State University ElectroScience Lab
paynter.5@...

Hallo Paul and the gang. Can you please add a box in the wind info screen to
turn the Sp calculations off and manualy adjust the wind? I find it useful in
wave flying when the SP calc is usually quite off. As the Sp manual implies the
option was already there, but propably disappeared during the SP evolution.
Thank you in advance

Best regards
MB

Hi

I haven't flown yet using tasks and have a question.

If I set the take-off waypoint to be the start of the task when will the task
start?

I see that SP makes the start waypoint a cyclinder, so after or during take-off
will I still need to fly through the cyclinder? The actual waypoint for example
may be set to another runway or even behind the threshold of the takeoff runway.

Hi MB,

You are right, there used to be an option to turn off the wind calculations. You
can adjust it manually already, but it will be reset if you "thermal" again. I
will change to code to restore this option.

Paul

--- In soaringpilot@yahoogroups.com, "skyraider9999" <skyraider9999@...> wrote:
>
> Hallo Paul and the gang. Can you please add a box in the wind info screen to
turn the Sp calculations off and manualy adjust the wind? I find it useful in
wave flying when the SP calc is usually quite off. As the Sp manual implies the
option was already there, but propably disappeared during the SP evolution.
Thank you in advance
>
> Best regards
> MB
>

 

Hi Frank,

Have the BT thingy and everything is set up.  Works well. Amazing for ~$7.

When I return to using my Palm T for RL flying, probably next season now, I'll have to reset the NMEA Input to accept input from my Garmin.  I know this will be Serial but should I reset the baud to 9600 or ?? from the 4800 it is now at?  Any other changes?

 

Regards, Tony Lintott

---

From: Frank Paynter <paynter.5@osu.edu>
To: soaringpilot@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 4 November, 2009 17:45:34
Subject: Re: [soaringpilot] Settings

 

Tony,

Yes, everything should be the same, as Condor outputs at a fixed rate (4800 bps) and with fixed parity, stop bits, etc.

Regards,

Frank


Tony Lintott wrote:

 

Hi Frank, Have ordered a BT thingy from eBay UK. About $7 delivered !! Do you know whether the settings you gave me before will be the same?  I realise I'll have to set the T to BT, not USB or Serial.... Regards, Tony Lintott --- On Wed, 4/11/09, Frank Paynter <paynter.5@osu. edu> wrote: From: Frank Paynter <paynter.5@osu. edu> Subject: Re: [soaringpilot] Settings To: soaringpilot@ yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, 4 November, 2009, 16:59   Tony, Yep - a 'BT thingy' should work OK too, and it might be cheaper/easier than a USB-to-Serial adaptor.  I think the one on CablesToGo costs around $37 U.S. and you might be able to get a BT adaptor for less than that.  Come to think of it, my current laptop has BT built in - I just never use it! ;-) Regards, Frank Tony Lintott wrote:   Hey Frank, perhaps this is why I used to use a BT thingy in the past! I'll find the gear you suggest sir, as I've mislaid the BT device. Many thanks, Regards, Tony Lintott --- On Wed, 4/11/09, Frank Paynter <paynter.5@osu. edu> wrote: From: Frank Paynter <paynter.5@osu. edu> Subject: Re: [soaringpilot] Settings To: soaringpilot@ yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, 4 November, 2009, 16:49   Tony, AFAIK, you can't use the USB cable to connect to Condor via NMEA.  However, you *can* use the cradle's serial cable to connect using a serial-to-USB adaptor to connect to your PC (I've been doing this for years).  You will need a serial-to-USB adaptor of course - I use the CEFC one (blue connector, silver cable) from "Cables To Go" (http://www.cablesto go.com/product. asp?cat_id= 1529&sku=26886) and it has worked flawlessly for years. Plug the USB-to-Serial adaptor into the PC (you may have to go through the New Hardware wizard the first time).  In the Device Manager on your PC, locate the 'Prolific USB-to-Serial Comm Port' line and note the port number (COMx) where 'x' is a number.  Right click on this line and select 'Properties' , then click on the 'Port Settings' tab.  Make sure the speed is set at 4800 bps, Data bits = 8, Parity = none, Stop bits = 1, Flow control = none. In Setup/Options, check the 'Enable' box under NMEA output, and make sure the port number is the same one being used by the USB-to-Serial adaptor as noted above.  If you can't find the above port number on the list in Condor, you *may* have to go into the 'Advanced... ' page on the hardware device manager properties page for the USB-to-Serial port and change the port number to something that Condor can see.  This shouldn't be necessary, as Condor should be able to see all comm ports enumerated by the device manager. On the Tungsten T, launch SP and go to Settings and select the "NMEA/Port" settings page.  Make sure the NMEA Input type is set to 'serial' and the baud rate is set for 4800 (Condor outputs at a fixed 4800 bps). That should do it - let me know if you have any trouble, and I'll be happy to help you get going.  You can email me directly at paynter.5@osu. edu or call me at 614 539-3316 (home), 614-638-6749 (cell) here in Columbus, OH (+5 GMT). Regards, Frank Tony Lintott wrote:   Been trying to get my Palm T to talk to CONDOR but I'm failing. Can someone give me all the settings required for a USB/Cradle connection to the T, then settings for SP and finally, for CONDOR? Thanks in anticipation. Regards, Tony Lintott -- G. Frank Paynter, PhD Research Scientist The Ohio State University ElectroScience Lab paynter.5@osu. edu -- G. Frank Paynter, PhD Research Scientist The Ohio State University ElectroScience Lab paynter.5@osu. edu

-- G. Frank Paynter, PhD
Research Scientist
The Ohio State University ElectroScience Lab
paynter.5@osu. edu

-- G. Frank Paynter, PhD
Research Scientist
The Ohio State University ElectroScience Lab
paynter.5@...

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Can someone please help ?

After entering a task soarpilot pointed me towards the first turn-point
after reaching the turn-point it kept directing me around the turn point in
circles rather than advancing towards the next point.
Also on the start the starting point was 200 meters directly in front of me
after passing it, it was also not recognized.
This problem just started after my palm ran flat.

Cheers Frank

What sector type and radius did you have?

--- In soaringpilot@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <lost_4wd@...> wrote:
>
> Can someone please help ?
>
> After entering a task soarpilot pointed me towards the first turn-point
> after reaching the turn-point it kept directing me around the turn point in
circles rather than advancing towards the next point.
> Also on the start the starting point was 200 meters directly in front of me
after passing it, it was also not recognized.
> This problem just started after my palm ran flat.
>
> Cheers Frank
>

Then I don't understand. Assuming of course you entered the sector and logged
enough points to validate the turn.

If you first turnpoint was FAI and you turned very close to the turnpoint you
may not have logged enough points.

If you Palm ran flat, how did it continue to work?

--- In soaringpilot@yahoogroups.com, Frank Van Der Hoeven <lost_4wd@...> wrote:
>
> Start was line, turnpoint FAI sector 1.852 km
>
> Cheers
>
> Frank
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: pgleesonuk <pgleesonuk@...>
> To: soaringpilot@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, 12 November, 2009 6:56:20 PM
> Subject: [soaringpilot] Re: Turn points
>
>
> What sector type and radius did you have?
>
> --- In soaringpilot@ yahoogroups. com, "Frank" <lost_4wd@ .> wrote:
> >
> > Can someone please help ?
> >
> > After entering a task soarpilot pointed me towards the first turn-point
> > after reaching the turn-point it kept directing me around the turn point in
circles rather than advancing towards the next point.
> > Also on the start the starting point was 200 meters directly in front of me
after passing it, it was also not recognized.
> > This problem just started after my palm ran flat.
> >
> > Cheers Frank
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>      
________________________________________________________________________________\
__
> Win 1 of 4 Sony home entertainment packs thanks to Yahoo!7.
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>

How did you re-install SoarPilot? Or did you run it from the card?

--- In soaringpilot@yahoogroups.com, Frank Van Der Hoeven <lost_4wd@...> wrote:
>
> It ran flat then I charged it also had to reinstall soar pilot which was
backed up on card next time I used it the problem started.
>
> Frank
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: pgleesonuk <pgleesonuk@...>
> To: soaringpilot@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, 13 November, 2009 6:56:12 PM
> Subject: [soaringpilot] Re: Turn points
>
>
> Then I don't understand. Assuming of course you entered the sector and logged
enough points to validate the turn.
>
> If you first turnpoint was FAI and you turned very close to the turnpoint you
may not have logged enough points.
>
> If you Palm ran flat, how did it continue to work?
>
> --- In soaringpilot@ yahoogroups. com, Frank Van Der Hoeven <lost_4wd@ .>
wrote:
> >
> > Start was line, turnpoint FAI sector 1.852 km
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Frank
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > From: pgleesonuk <pgleesonuk@ ...>
> > To: soaringpilot@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Thu, 12 November, 2009 6:56:20 PM
> > Subject: [soaringpilot] Re: Turn points
> >
> >
> > What sector type and radius did you have?
> >
> > --- In soaringpilot@ yahoogroups. com, "Frank" <lost_4wd@ .> wrote:
> > >
> > > Can someone please help ?
> > >
> > > After entering a task soarpilot pointed me towards the first turn-point
> > > after reaching the turn-point it kept directing me around the turn point
in circles rather than advancing towards the next point.
> > > Also on the start the starting point was 200 meters directly in front of
me after passing it, it was also not recognized.
> > > This problem just started after my palm ran flat.
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> > > Cheers Frank
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