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7645 Andreas
awnd329 Send Email
Jan 2, 2007
3:18 am
... Unfortunately bringing an asteroid into GEO is a half dozen orders of magnitude more difficult than even building the T1000 SE. Besides, manufacturing an...
7646 Herbert Murray
hcm1955 Send Email
Jan 2, 2007
6:57 am
The whole point of this thread, was to consider if an Earth based SE was possible, with today's tech. It is a huge undertaking, but I believe possible. Findng...
7647 Andreas
awnd329 Send Email
Jan 2, 2007
3:34 pm
... Space based manufacturing is not exactly today's tech. Nor is diverting asteroids, or MEMS based climbers. I am afraid we are stuck with the 60 GPa...
7648 Patrick Boake
pbboake Send Email
Jan 2, 2007
3:35 pm
... How do you figure? And why does the asteroid have to be in GEO? Moving an asteroid can be done with (relatively) low-power systems (and some patience)....
7650 Herbert Murray
hcm1955 Send Email
Jan 2, 2007
9:02 pm
... I believe we are closer to a MEMS based climber, than we are a 60GPa ribbon. Moving an asteroid to GTO (possibly with solar sails) is also something we...
7651 Andreas
awnd329 Send Email
Jan 2, 2007
9:29 pm
... Perhaps. If so, the SE will have to be relegated back to the realm of science fiction. Not that a MEMS based climber would help solve the problem, at all. ...
7652 Andreas
awnd329 Send Email
Jan 2, 2007
9:29 pm
... What size asteroid are we talking about? This one here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/951_Gaspra weighs in at 10^16 kg. Which orbit do you want it in? Any...
7653 Andreas
awnd329 Send Email
Jan 3, 2007
12:15 am
... Where did you get this idea? A delta-v of 2 km/s takes at least 2 MJ per kg, or 2*10^22 J for easy-to-reach 951 Gaspra. If you allow 100 years, you need to...
7654 Herbert Murray
hcm1955 Send Email
Jan 3, 2007
4:18 am
... If you are waiting for CNTs to be develop for ribbon materiel then an Earth base SE is indeed in the realm of Sci Fi (At least right now). If you consider...
7655 Ed Minchau
spider_boris Send Email
Jan 3, 2007
9:28 am
Sorry that the below is a little long-winded, but I went into full-on geek mode. ... It sounds like a lot, and it is if you use artificial nuclear power plants...
7656 Herbert Murray
hcm1955 Send Email
Jan 3, 2007
1:11 pm
... Also Solar Thermal Rocket (STR) might be considered. This would require the asteroid materiel to be ground up and used as feedstock for some type of solar...
7657 Andreas
awnd329 Send Email
Jan 3, 2007
4:06 pm
... This could work. You need to be mindful that concentration of sunlight with mirrors is limited to 10,000-fold or so because of its poor collimation. I am...
7658 Herbert Murray
hcm1955 Send Email
Jan 3, 2007
4:47 pm
For what it is worth is a list of some 3000 + NEO, with orbital information. If someone that knows something about orbital mechanics ( I don't), wants to help...
7659 Andreas
awnd329 Send Email
Jan 3, 2007
5:06 pm
... velocities. ... I think what this means is that the absolute maximum temperature you can achieve using optically focussed sunlight is that of the sun's ...
7660 Herbert Murray
hcm1955 Send Email
Jan 3, 2007
5:40 pm
... mirrors is ... am not ... I believe a more realistic option is the nuclear or modified RTPs using water (from the asteroid) as the working fluid. As long...
7661 Patrick Boake
pbboake Send Email
Jan 3, 2007
5:44 pm
... systems (and some patience). ... Space.com <http://www.space.com/adastra/060209_adastra_mining.html> [emphasis added] "About 10% of Near-Earth Asteroids...
7663 Herbert Murray
hcm1955 Send Email
Jan 3, 2007
6:21 pm
... the...
7664 Andreas
awnd329 Send Email
Jan 3, 2007
7:49 pm
... Note the picture on slide 7 and imagine that built on an asteroid. And that only represents one step of many. Andreas...
7665 Andreas
awnd329 Send Email
Jan 3, 2007
7:57 pm
... Huh? As far as I can tell this does not at all talk about moving entire asteroids. Just "asteroidal resources", which I take to be minerals already...
7666 Andreas
awnd329 Send Email
Jan 3, 2007
8:28 pm
... Oh, but you do care. If you want to accelerate one half of the asteroid by 2 km/s, you need to eject the other half at a relative velocity of 4 km/s. That...
7667 Herbert Murray
hcm1955 Send Email
Jan 3, 2007
8:30 pm
1. More info on manufacturing carbon fibers: propylene http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propylene ammonia ...
7668 Herbert Murray
hcm1955 Send Email
Jan 3, 2007
9:15 pm
I will catch a lot of negative feedback for this, but: I am beginning to suspect that you are shooting down a lot of the SE ideas, not that you don't believe...
7669 Jo Jaquinta
jim_plummer Send Email
Jan 3, 2007
10:12 pm
... Justly so. Let me de-lurk to be the first to cry "foul"! ... Andreas's arguments (from my reading) have been entirely factual and science related...
7670 Ed Minchau
spider_boris Send Email
Jan 4, 2007
2:33 am
I've gotten hotter than that. I've boiled steel (not melted, *boiled*) using a Fresnel lens. The key is to use non-imaging optics. ...
7671 Andreas
awnd329 Send Email
Jan 4, 2007
3:47 am
... The boiling point of iron is 3134 K http://www.webelements.com/webelements/elements/text/Fe/heat.html No kind of optics will improve the collimation of...
7672 Andreas
awnd329 Send Email
Jan 4, 2007
3:56 am
... I have not mentioned the Aerovator, and my only interest in this discussion is in supporting the SE by keeping discussion within rather generous bounds of...
7673 Herbert Murray
hcm1955 Send Email
Jan 4, 2007
5:29 am
... OK my comment was out of line. But I do get the feeling that when I stretch the possibilities, and introduce techs like robotic MEMS, coil guns, and the...
7674 Ed Minchau
spider_boris Send Email
Jan 4, 2007
6:46 am
I said steel, not iron. The boiling point is slightly higher. And, it boiled instantly, my temperature was well above the boiling point. ... ...
7675 Herbert Murray
hcm1955 Send Email
Jan 4, 2007
1:16 pm
All modern rocket designs have a operating temps higher than the rated temp of the materiel that they are made from. By pumping the fuel thru the skin of the...
7676 Andreas
awnd329 Send Email
Jan 4, 2007
4:02 pm
... All the plans for moving asteroids I've seen involve at least one factory using asteroid dirt feedstock, so it is hard for me to see how it would not be...
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