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Re: [sphere_project] Really Basic Help

Am 13.08.2006 um 16:54 schrieb Isaac Raway:
> neither should PythonCard: both are inspired by (in different
> ways), but can't possibly replace HyperCard.
PythonCard has Dan Winkler working on it, whom most of you will
probably know as the author of HyperTalk. But apart from that, it's
really just an object layer for Python.
> I would say Revolution is your best bet if you want cross platform.
> It's an ...interesting...environment. Honestly, to me it has always
> felt a little buggy. One possibility that I enjoyed playing with a
> bit better was the MetaCard IDE running on top of the Revolution
> core. You might want to look into that.
My general impression of MC is that it's very unixy. It has a lot
of power, but also can be rather cryptic and confusing. Also, it
doesn't support many Mac-specific features since it wants its stacks
to run cross-platform. They mainly support the stuff that makes sense
on all platforms only.
> If you're going Mac only, then SuperCard is probably worth trying.
> I haven't tried it, but it looks like it has a bit more stable
> interface. In Revolution, I always felt like I was playing with a
> prototype.
Apart from being the most Mac-like of the bunch (and the first
HyperCard clone), SuperCard also has a very dedicated developer
working on it, and a great community. Disclaimer: I recently got to
meet the developer, Mark Lucas. So I may be taken in by his personality.
> Actually that's one big point of contention I have with many
> systems that claim to be HyperCard "clones" or inspired by
> HyperCard. In many cases they have no even remotely similar
> database system. Without that, it's just another RAD tool with an
> xTalk, and if that is what people think HyperCard was, then they
> really never understood it. It's a database. I think there are few
> people who remember it, because there are few people who got that.
> Friendly language + simple DB + friendly GUI = magic.
SuperCard basically kept the object model, extending it by multiple
windows. Though it's only one developer (plus a few dedicated users
helping out occasionally), so don't expect miracles... well, not yet,
anyway. They have a demo, I suggest you just try it out.

Cheers,
-- M. Uli Kusterer
http://www.zathras.de





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