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RE: [sqa_bangladesh] Re: SQA or Development? Please help me with suggession from your experience

There is no "I" in TEAM.
 
Coders, managers, testers, designers, analysts, graphics experts....
 
Everybody is involved in making software. Its a TEAM EFFORT.
 
 
Unfortunately some people may get more credit for this, but doesn't this happen in all team sports?
 
Yes the world is changing but as long as we fail to acknowledge that all components need to be working together we won't get better software.
 
SSH
 
PS - you don't need to be an engineer to realize the above


From: sqa_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sqa_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of shiplu
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 5:02 PM
To: sqa_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sqa_bangladesh] Re: SQA or Development? Please help me with suggession from your experience

I don't use the term 'coder'. I use 'Programmer/Developer'.
I am sure every software company recruits programmers first rather than testers.
Also a single programmer is capable of releasing whole software. www.sf.net is live example.
But testers are not. Everyone knows why the difference.
Testers are always client of programmer. not only testers actually, all of them who works with programmers code.
In BD, salary of a programmer is too low. why? because they do only 15% of the total?
may be this is for those programmer who just know C++/Java well but not necessary a cs major.
But the story is different here. Most of us are cs major guy and working as a programmer. we should be SE directly before being a programmer. I hope someday Computer Engineers will get the proper job.


On Dec 3, 2007 10:02 PM, black_jack_002003 <black_jack_002003@yahoo.com> wrote:

Why is there so much fuss about the silent battle between the coders
and the testers? I've been a coder all my a academic life and the
professional life afterwards, so I can articulately say that coding is
just a small portion of the entire design which includes requirement
specification, system design, testing, support, maintenance and so on
and so forth. Coding happens to be 15% of the entire job and testing a
lot more than just 15%. Coders are given more credit in places like
the sub-continent where they are considered the builders of an entire
system. This is the general conception about coders in this part of
the world because of generations of considering coders as the main
frontliners. But the world is changing and my shifting from coding to
testing will inshallah be a decision that will make me go places.

Thank you

Intekhab Sadekin
Software Testing Engineer
Therap Services Ltd.
Dhaka, Bangladesh



--- In sqa_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com, "Sajjadul Hakim" <sajjadul@...>
wrote:
>
> > But talking about myself, I can't
> > imagine myself as a tester (or QA guy or whatever you call it),
cause not
> > having the opportunity to create will make me feel crippled and if
you feel
> > the same way, you should know by now what to choose for yourself.
>
>
> Well actually, testers do get to create. Just not for the same reasons
> programmers do :) Here is a good quote from Cem Kaner in
> software-testing group:
>
>
> SOURCE: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/software-testing/message/4391
> =============[Start Quote]============
> We are professional investigators. Rather than building things, we
> find ways to answer difficult questions about the quality of the
> products or services we test. Our job--if we choose to do it
> well--requires us to constantly learn new things, about the product,
> its market, its implementation, its risks, its usability, etc. To
> learn these, we are constantly developing new skills and new cognitive
> structures in a diversity of fields. It also requires us to
> communicate well to a diverse group of people. We ALSO get to build
> things (test tools), but very often, we build to our own designs,
> which can be more satisfying than building an application that does
> something we'll never personally do (or want to do). Learning to do
> good software testing requires learning to do critical thinking well,
> and to back it up with empirical research.
> =============[End Quote]============
>
>
> Regards,
> Sajjad
> http://rapidtester.blogspot.com
>




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I don't use the term 'coder'. I use 'Programmer/Developer'. I am sure every software company recruits programmers first rather than testers. Also a single...
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There is no "I" in TEAM. Coders, managers, testers, designers, analysts, graphics experts.... Everybody is involved in making software. Its a TEAM EFFORT. ...
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I believe every one is important programmer/Developer, tester and others. everyone should play there rules properly then a project will be the successful one....
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Hi Intekhab: We like your spirit. May Almighty Allah help you in ever respect. Thanks and regards, Monsur-ul-Hakim ... From: black_jack_002003...
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Hi Intekhab, Thanks for your nice mail. Best Regards, Mahfuz...
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Amen to that. I agree with Mr. Shabbir. It is a team effort and not an individual one. The example of www.sf.net is just one such example where the entire...
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Hi Mr. Asif, Here is an interesting article on choosing career. ...
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Really a nice statement, there is no 'I' in TEAM. In addition to it, I would like to say, "...though it is consisted of some I's". And everyone, really need to...
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Thanks, but I cannot take ownership of the statement I just used what others said long before :-) pls check http://www.google.com.bd/search?hl=en ...
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