Re: [squeak-dev] Maintaining Etoys in Squeak (was: Squeak vision)
On 7/2/09 6:23 PM, "Yoshiki Ohshima" <yoshiki@...> wrote:
> Ah, right. I haven't tried them, but I hardly imagine that it is
> compatible (i.e., a project file created in the Etoys image loads to
> it).
Well, I do load of old projects.
I don't do load of new OLPC as I know you and all have some different as
Etoys in 3.10.
But if you tell me where I could download the current .image ,etc for
developers of EToys, I could try to figure how to load current OLPC .pr.
I do not say easily , but confident I could do a thing for all you at VPRI
help me to polish.
At Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:55:58 -0300, ... Ah, right. I haven't tried them, but I hardly imagine that it is compatible (i.e., a project file created in the Etoys...
Yoshiki Ohshima
yoshiki@...
Jul 2, 2009 9:25 pm
... Well, I do load of old projects. I don't do load of new OLPC as I know you and all have some different as Etoys in 3.10. But if you tell me where I could...
Edgar J. De Cleene
edgardec2001@...
Jul 5, 2009 5:53 pm
At Sun, 05 Jul 2009 14:52:45 -0300, ... I did tell you where it is: http://tinlizzie.org/olpc/etoys-dev-4.0.zip People at VPRI will work on more researchy...
Yoshiki Ohshima
yoshiki@...
Jul 5, 2009 7:54 pm
... Ok. I start download it and look in Squeakland projects. I seek some yesterday and found try loading in "older Etoys coming from 3.10" say I need a newer...
Edgar J. De Cleene
edgardec2001@...
Jul 6, 2009 11:05 am
At Mon, 06 Jul 2009 08:04:09 -0300, ... If I understand this... I don't sweat too much to load .pr file created in 3.10 or such. But it is important to be...
Yoshiki Ohshima
yoshiki@...
Jul 6, 2009 7:55 pm
... Well , as I said thousand times before, the "core" could be MinimalMorphic. By the way I work with Pavel long time ago and resurrect his image and add some...
Edgar J. De Cleene
edgardec2001@...
Jul 6, 2009 8:35 pm
... Hi Edgar, Have you considered posting your videos to somewhere like http://vimeo.com/groups/squeak ? I think this would greatly increase the visibility...
Ken Causey
ken@...
Jul 6, 2009 8:58 pm
... Exactly the point, Etoys already forked. Stop holding onto an old rotting version in Squeak that isn't used, take it out, it doesn't belong there. People...
Ramon Leon
ramon.leon@...
Jul 2, 2009 9:50 pm
... I think this is one of the key issues in the wider Squeak community right now, made all the more difficult because the Etoys team has been completely...
Colin Putney
cputney@...
Jul 2, 2009 11:52 pm
... Colin, I'm not a developer, so I cannot answer your previous questions thoroughly. But as the Director of Education from Squeakland Foundation I tell you...
Rita Freudenberg
rita@...
Jul 3, 2009 7:50 am
... Err, counting the number of mails I sent on the subject just in the last few days can hardly be called "completely silent," can it? ... Once it reaches a...
Bert Freudenberg
bert@...
Jul 3, 2009 10:48 am
... Heh, I stand corrected. :-) Actually, the posts you and other Squeakland folks have made in the last few days have really clarified things for me, thanks. ...
Colin Putney
cputney@...
Jul 4, 2009 2:52 am
... Colin, Thanks for taking a fresh look at this. My Etoys/Squeak synchronization approaches are, from the "least desirable" to the "most desirable": #1....
Milan Zimmermann
milan.zimmermann@...
Jul 6, 2009 6:56 am
Hi Milan, Thanks for taking the time to reply. Those do seem to be the available options, but I think I'd order them with #1 and #2 reversed. I think what we...
Colin Putney
cputney@...
Jul 9, 2009 12:39 pm
... Milan and Colin: I do the rip of Etoys (my way) some time ago. Also have some success in reloading again an have old Etoys .pr working. I exchange some...
Edgar J. De Cleene
edgardec2001@...
Jul 10, 2009 11:38 am
... HI Edgar, could you provide a link to a "do it" or the mechanism you used to unload / partly reload Etoys in the past? Thanks, Milan...
Milan Zimmermann
milan.zimmermann@...
Jul 11, 2009 7:26 pm
On 7/11/09 4:22 PM, "Milan Zimmermann" <milan.zimmermann@...> ... http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.beginners/4631 I do the...
Edgar J. De Cleene
edgardec2001@...
Jul 13, 2009 11:17 am
Hi Colin, For a few days, I was thinking about switching the "desirability order" you suggested (that removing Etoys from Squeak would better then leave...
Milan Zimmermann
milan.zimmermann@...
Jul 11, 2009 7:24 pm
Hello Ramon, RL> Honestly, I don't care anymore. eToys was just brought up as an example RL> to point out the difference between the "let's make progress"...
Herbert König
herbertkoenig@...
Jul 3, 2009 4:00 am
... Not true, the discussion started trying to figure out how to pull Pharo improvements back in; that makes it of interest to me. Pharo has it's act...
Ramon Leon
ramon.leon@...
Jul 3, 2009 4:20 am
Hello Ramon, ... RL> Not true, the discussion started trying to figure out how to pull RL> Pharo improvements back in; that makes it of interest to me. Pharo ...
... Err, isn't that exactly what I wrote? - Bert -...
Bert Freudenberg
bert@...
Jul 1, 2009 8:12 pm
2009/7/1 Bert Freudenberg <bert@...>: Hello Bert! It is truly beautiful to see your devotion to a vision. I respect that. The problem has never...
Ian Trudel
ian.trudel@...
Jul 1, 2009 9:18 pm
At Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:16:38 -0400, ... Ian, if you could spare some time to read... - Bert knows a bit about small businesses in Germany, and I could say he...
Yoshiki Ohshima
yoshiki@...
Jul 1, 2009 9:51 pm
Hi Ian, ... You seem to think that the resources (i.e. programmer time) of this community are available for whatever the community or the leadership decides....
Juan Vuletich
juan@...
Jul 1, 2009 10:07 pm
Very well said Juan. Thank you. Cheers, - Andreas...
Andreas Raab
andreas.raab@...
Jul 1, 2009 10:24 pm
... Thank you for your concise but insightful pointers. Let me also make it clear that it has nothing to do with the man. I am sure that Bert is a great man....
Ian Trudel
ian.trudel@...
Jul 1, 2009 11:39 pm
... Your message wasn't exactly "a little bit of rant"... It was more like the "I know nothing about this, but if you don't do it my way, you all will go to...
Juan Vuletich
juan@...
Jul 2, 2009 12:15 am
... I actually thought that I would be the one to go to hell. =) More seriously, it's not even about that. I know that you guys don't care whether I am here or...
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