On 1 February 2012 03:55, Chris Cunnington ... We do: it's called Metacello [1]. It lets you * describe the (acyclic!) dependency graph between your packages *...
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Frank Shearar
frank.shearar@...
Feb 1, 2012 10:45 am
... <snip> Now that I've caught up on the context of the discussion, Metacello's useful for _Smalltalk_only_ things, unlike ant/maven/msbuild/etc. If I had a...
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David Corking
lists@...
Feb 1, 2012 12:28 pm
Although it is not a current area of my personal interest, I want to piggyback on the current discussion about configuration management and version control...
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K. K. Subramaniam
kksubbu.ml@...
Feb 1, 2012 2:40 pm
... +1 Classifying work into as productive or unproductive/leisure/entertainment is an artifact of industrial age. Watching kids learn through play is the best...
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Lawson English
lenglish5@...
Feb 1, 2012 5:08 pm
Again, I refer people to the Spoon project. Lawson...
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Frank Shearar
frank.shearar@...
Feb 1, 2012 5:28 pm
Why do you think that Spoon is a version control system? In particular, I would expect a version control system to be able to tell me the difference between...
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karl ramberg
karlramberg@...
Feb 1, 2012 5:31 pm
... I have given info to Craig about the issues I had with running Spoon. ... A fine-grained version control would help in Etoys development as Morph/Player...
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Colin Putney
colin@...
Feb 1, 2012 5:42 pm
... Yeah, I tried Sake, but it didn't meet my needs. Colin...
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Lawson English
lenglish5@...
Feb 1, 2012 6:00 pm
... http://thiscontext.wordpress.com/ See: http://netjam.org/708DEAAF-71C8-4D05-8E2F-63ECBA8FBD8F.html This is possibly overkill or perhaps not, but it may...
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Bert Freudenberg
bert@...
Feb 1, 2012 7:00 pm
I seem to recall that Eliot had a different idea of how the time zone support should work. The image code hasn't changed in a while so I'm pretty sure it's a...
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Lawson English
lenglish5@...
Feb 1, 2012 7:38 pm
It seems to me that the most active place where development of Morphic is taking place is in the context of Lively Kernel. Is anyone tracking what the LK...
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David Corking
lists@...
Feb 1, 2012 7:54 pm
... That would be enough to improve Etoys development, for example. We don't necessarily need to know what changed: there is really only one feature I seek. We...
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karl ramberg
karlramberg@...
Feb 1, 2012 8:14 pm
... I have not looked at Lively Kernel for a while and I must say I'm amazed by how much they have progressed. PartsBin is really cool. This is just so much...
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Frank Shearar
frank.shearar@...
Feb 1, 2012 8:16 pm
... Sure, that's exactly what I mean - in Spoon, everything _has_ a version, but that doth not a version control system make! What was that thing's parent...
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karl ramberg
karlramberg@...
Feb 1, 2012 8:46 pm
... http://herbsutter.com/welcome-to-the-jungle/ I was reading this last night an asked my self, how do I program when these monster machines I have no clue...
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Chris Cunnington
smalltalktelevision@...
Feb 1, 2012 8:55 pm
CWP: "I can vouch for this. I wrote Filesystem because trying to write Mason using FileDirectory was too painful." I thought a build system had to be...
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Michael J. Zeder
post@...
Feb 1, 2012 9:08 pm
thanks to the hint of Eliot, I did some code updates. fbdev module for Cog is now committed. ... I don't know if that would be a project of major importance ;)...
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Tony Garnock-Jones
tonyg@...
Feb 1, 2012 9:11 pm
... That's a really interesting project. Can you tell us more about it? Do you run everything from one VM instance and one image, or are there multiple VM...
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Chris Muller
asqueaker@...
Feb 2, 2012 2:29 am
... Jon, I'm very curious your thoughts about this -- that a Date needs to know its timezone. By Date today being a special, localized instance of today, it...
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Milan Zimmermann
milan.zimmermann@...
Feb 2, 2012 2:52 am
... Karl: I agree, I have played with LK last week and this week quite a bit, and it does look and behave amazing (I am itching to say "especially considering...
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Chris Muller
asqueaker@...
Feb 2, 2012 4:18 am
This would seem to be an essential part of our development process. Does anyone know how this process works?...
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Nicolas Cellier
nicolas.cellier.aka.n...
Feb 2, 2012 7:44 am
Without checking the code, this sounds weird. There is a local date and a UTC date which can be different. The date when created should indeed take the local...
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Nicolas Cellier
nicolas.cellier.aka.n...
Feb 2, 2012 8:30 am
I'm now inspecting implementation, and indeed, Date is an interval taking start time into account. So you can still compare the Date printString... (quite...
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Janko Mivšek
janko.mivsek@...
Feb 2, 2012 10:56 am
... Datum: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 11:54:22 -0500 Od: Paul Baumann <paul.baumann@...> Peter's point that "that there is [not] any inherent advantage in using ...
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Janko Mivšek
janko.mivsek@...
Feb 2, 2012 10:57 am
... Datum: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 07:54:58 -0600 Od: Peter Hunsberger <peter.hunsberger@...> With all due respect to the experience of everyone here, people...
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Frank Shearar
frank.shearar@...
Feb 2, 2012 11:08 am
... The last one I've seen was on 31 Jan (2 days ago): Bert Freudenberg uploaded a new version of Monticello to project The Trunk: ...
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Chris Muller
asqueaker@...
Feb 2, 2012 4:25 pm
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 2:30 AM, Nicolas Cellier ... Not good enough, because having TZ-specific dates in any system of consequence is a scourge of molasses. ...
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Jon Hylands
jon@...
Feb 2, 2012 4:55 pm
I agree Chris. If I'm interested in anything time-related for a given date, I'll use DateAndTime or TimeStamp or whatever. Date objects should care about year...
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Bert Freudenberg
bert@...
Feb 2, 2012 6:49 pm
... Any squeaksource project can be configured ... According to the log, that was indeed the last trunk update: 2012-01-31T19:37:37.644+00:00 PUT...
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Yanni Chiu
yanni@...
Feb 2, 2012 7:51 pm
... IMHO, there are two different concepts getting mixed up. 1) There is a "date", which has a day, month and year (and calendar). If you're modeling dates to...
