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RE: [staranalyser] gamma Cas spectra

Hi Robin,
 
Thank you for your help.
 
I haven't got much further but with Rob's advice I managed to crop fits files in AIP4WIN. I managed to straighten this one with less moves in Iris (I used geometry, rotate as before - perhaps there is a better method), and I changed it to grey scale in Iris, and saved as a pic file. I also felt I had more control of the thresholds levels, though still not quite sure what is best to aim for. Knowing that little peak was H alpha meant I could calibrate it for wavelength, though the numbers have rather swamped the tiny spectrum. Is there any way to control this? I think Altair was higher in the sky than gamma Cas, and obviously a different direction so probably not ideal, but the best I've got. I will check out Christian Buil's page on atmospheric extinction, thanks.
I couldn't get into the files to save the latest profile so I didn't know what else to do other than attaching it.
 
Cheers,
 
Jan 
 


To: staranalyser@yahoogroups.com
From: robin@...
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 10:48:12 +0100
Subject: Re: [staranalyser] gamma Cas spectra



Hi again Janet,
 
A couple of other points I missed from your last post (My broadband was down so I was rushing my repsponse on pay per minute dialup)
 
 
> Frustratingly I did not manage to crop out the spectrum*.  When I tried this I just lost the whole photo. Could you tell me if it is possible to crop it smaller? I re-saved it as fits in Iris which may have enabled it to work in VSpec, though maybe a pic file would have been better.
 
Cropping in IRIS can be done but it is a bit clunky. First you must note the coordinates of the top left and bottom right corners of the part you want to crop. Then select "geometry"  "crop"  and eneter the coordinates X1 Y1 X2 Y2 in the box that opens. (Note the operation is permanent, so save your full fram first if you need it. You cannot go back!   For VSpec, I generally like to save as an IRIS pic file following compatibility problems I had with some fits files and Vspec. This may have been cured in later versions of Vspec.

>Is it better to continue with stacked raw images for the calibration, and to use images taken the same night? Any tips are welcome.

For highest accuracy it is best to take a calibration star on the same night and approximately the same elevation as the target, particularly if the target is low in the sky. This helps to make the atmospheric extinction similar. In practise though you should get a reasonable result  using instrument response calibrations  from  other runs. As a variable star observer you might be  interested in the effects of extinction on spectra. Christian buil has recently added a page on the ARAS website on how to correct low resolution spectra for extinction here. (It is not for the beginner though!)

http://www.astrosurf.com/aras/extinction/calcul.htm

Note that if you have used the "spectra" "correct tilt of a 2D spectra" function of IRIS to level the spectrum, this changes the X scale so the wavelength calibration of calibration star and target will only be comparable if they were both changed by the same angle. The "geometry" "rotate" function does not change the scale but can give more pronounced wave artifacts in the spectrum.

Best Regards,

Robin




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Hello Robin/Everyone, I have just put a spectrum of gamma Cas (as far as I have got with it) in Files>User_Folders>Janet Simpson gamCas profile.jpg. It is...
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Hi Jan, A nice result, particularly using a fixed camera. The H alpha emission line is showing up clearly at the right hand end despite the low sensitivity of...
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Hi again Janet, A couple of other points I missed from your last post (My broadband was down so I was rushing my repsponse on pay per minute dialup) ... ...
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Hi Robin, Thank you for your help. I haven't got much further but with Rob's advice I managed to crop fits files in AIP4WIN. I managed to straighten this one...
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... Hi Jan, You can resize and rescale the graph in vspec using the box that appears when you select "format" "graphic" Robin...
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Hi Robin, I tried resizing and rescaling, and it worked, thank you. Meanwhile I have been trying to calibrate a spectrum of Altair, to use to calibrate gamma...
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Hi Janet, You can more easily crop in AIP4WIN using the Transform/crop menu and use the mouse to select the area to crop. Rob....
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Thank you Rob, that worked :) Janet To: staranalyser@yahoogroups.com From: robjn@... Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 21:37:56 +0000 Subject: [staranalyser]...
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Hi Ken/Janet, I have not used my 350D much for spectroscopy but I have not noticed that with my Canon EF zoom lenses ( pre digital, early 90's I think but...
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Hi Robin, I have downloaded the latest VSpec, and have divided Altair intensity by library A7V (in Files, User folders, Janet Simpson). I have forgotten how to...
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Hi Janet, Valerie Desnoux has a video on how to calculate the instrument response and use it to correct another spectrum on the Vspec website here ...
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