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re: [staticrecompilers] 6502 recompiler news

> Not that the translated code looks all that great yet,
> but using an optimising compiler backend is exactly
> the way to go. You can tell from the comments that he
> is handling a proper data flow graph which should
> allow for global optimisation (the clue is the
> references to 'phi nodes', which won't mean much
> unless you've done some advanced compiler reading)

As far as I understand it, SSA is part of LLVM so using
LLVM provides you with SSA optimised code for free,
which is good.

On the other hand, I prefer a translation that I can
easily relate to the original code. Of course flags
removal is a must to make the translated code
readable. Then the host compiler can do whatever
kind of optimisations it can. I have a project in
mind to use QEMU for that (of course that'd be for
recent processors).

> I thought it might be fun
> to push it through Orion and see what it looks like.
> There are a couple of partial disassemblies of apple1
> basic out there already (although reportedly not 100%
> accurate copies of the code) which will give most of
> the labels and jumps.

Yeah might be fun :-) I have lost all links to Orion
download (I changed my machine a few months ago and was
too lazy to backup files...).


Laurent




Sat Jul 4, 2009 11:15 am

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Michael Steil, the guy who did the Pear dynarec for Macs and who discussed the recompiler howto in his document, has written a recompiler for Apple I and...
Graham Toal
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Jul 3, 2009
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... As far as I understand it, SSA is part of LLVM so using LLVM provides you with SSA optimised code for free, which is good. On the other hand, I prefer a...
Laurent DESNOGUES
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... Are you referring to AST + target or just target? I would think the AST route is the way to go. ... Does someone have a copy of the Apple 1 EPROM? I'd be...
Neil Bradley
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... Of course! LLVM is a compiler back-end - you feed it your AST and it does all the optimisations on the AST for you, and has a choice of target code ...
Graham Toal
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... It's looking for the vectors at 0xfff8-0xffff, which is probably all 0s unless you load something there. Try adding: loadimage 0xf000,...
Neil Bradley
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Jul 4, 2009
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... Well, that wouldn't have worked as it hit several opcodes that weren't implemented. Here is a new recomp.exe, template, and ROM image for the Apple1: ...
Neil Bradley
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... That's pretty good! Comparing it manually to http://www.brouhaha.com/~eric/retrocomputing/apple/apple1/basic/a1basic.dis all I've seen so far is a missing...
Graham Toal
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... and when I made the $FF opcode into data, it generated an output file just fine, and the few missing code sections all look to be there now... My copy of...
Graham Toal
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... Sweet! Can you send me the latest template? ... I haven't implemented the opcodes for anything more than a disassembly, so if you try to emit C code,...
Neil Bradley
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... just ... http://www.gtoal.com/apple1/template.apple1 The updated disassembly is http://www.gtoal.com/apple1/apple1.asm.txt ... so ... Well, first priority...
Graham Toal
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... Well, that's lucky! Usually it completely goes off into the weeds when it attempts to disassemble data. ... The 6502 module wasn't complete and probably...
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