Is the roundtable done for? C'mon slackers.

Bob

On 9/22/02 7:53 PM, "Tim Burns" <tburns@...> wrote:

>
> I don't think I really want to know, it would only add to my cynicism. It's
> really an interesting racket that they've put together with their latest
> release. It's pretty much just a really garbled repackaging of the standard
> Apache/Orion/LDAP stuff with an Oracle database on the backend.
>
> The install is pretty painful and my cynical side says that they made it
> painful on purpose. They make it just different enough though so that it
> would really save time to spend time on the phone or bring in a consultant.
> I'm thinking of half a dozen people I worked with in St. Louis who would
> directly have one or two of the skills to install it easily from scratch, but
> no one person I can think of would have every skill. You have to have
> knowledge of the apache mod stuff to do the LDAP plug in (I don't have that).
> If you don't have the LDAP plug-in, nothing else will work -- nice little
> easter egg there. Nevermind YAGNI and that most people who will use these
> probably have their own table of users that they will use for the application
> and completely ignore the LDAP, but that's another rant... The other thing is
> the app server, I know it well because Orion was my development server for
> about a year, but DBAs have a tough time with Orion, so even a really good DBA
> will probably need some help getting Orion configured. Oracle the database
> sort of speaks for itself - easy to install dummy style - takes a good DBA to
> get in good form (I can do dummy Oracle but out of my league good Oracle).
>
> From the consulting/marketing perspective its a really nice install, because
> it isn't so terrible that will alienate anybody, but it isn't complete and
> easy enough so that you won't at least consider giving Oracle a call to ask
> for a consultant...especially if you work for a big company and have more
> money than time.
>
> Tim
>
> Bob Lee <crazybob@...> wrote:
> Are the development tools and the technical rep. worth whatever Oracle charges
> over Orion's $1500/server (note server as opposed to CPU)? ;) What does Oracle
> charge anyway?
>
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