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Re: [ST-J] Macs


On Jan 13, 2007, at 5:48 PM, Robert McGovern wrote:

>
> Certainly for normal usage I could get a winlatop for half / third the
> cost of a Macbook that would more than do the job. However I don't
>

But you wouldn't want to. I helped an older techno-phobe friend of
ours choose a fairly low-end notebook last year. I tried to convince
her to wait until the INtel MacBooks came out, but she wanted a
windows machine because that is what her, son's had, she was used to
the software etc.. Boy do I dread getting calls about that machine. I
have nearly thrown it across the room a number of times, wether it is
setting up wireless, dealing with photos, setting up email, or what,
it is an unbelievably frustrating thing for me to deal with.

(I don't know about you guys, but as much as I want to help friends
out, I do get a little sick of people assuming that because you're a
software person, you also have the experience and temperament of an
IT help-desk person. As we have a lot of non-techie more senior
friends I sometimes feel like the only guy in the neighborhood with a
pickup truck. But I protest too much..I guess its good to have
something to offer - just wish it didn't have such an effect on my
blood-pressure.)




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I would recommend getting one of the MacBook Pro Core Duo (e.g. not 2) machines as they are on closeout -- don't know if prices work the same way over there...
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I'm afraid I can't offer much useful info. I'm in the same boat. Here is what I'm thinking. - I love the Mac Mini for its form factor and price. I could use my...
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Middle Bob said ... ... Here is ... Sony ... Thanks Bob for your input and glad to know that someone else is in the same boat. I too have found that really I...
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... But you wouldn't want to. I helped an older techno-phobe friend of ours choose a fairly low-end notebook last year. I tried to convince her to wait until...
Miles Parker
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tech support at "home" and for "friends" blows big time. i agree. you have no idea what pile of manure you are wading into. this includes the machines my kid's...
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... You need to start wearing this T-shirt: http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/frustrations/388b/ ... DR...
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Hmm. If I replace my machine with a Mac Mini (2GB RAM, 1.88GHz, 180G HD), I need a keyboard. $1348. If I replace my wife's machine, I don't need a keyboard, do...
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I should have been clearer--I was responding to Bob -- I think the VRAM issues are important for a lot of other graphic-oriented stuff. Even just in the...
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My mac dealer installed memory for me at half the price that Apple would do it. Through the dealer I also got a 'corporate price' for the Mac (same as...
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Just wanted to follow and say thank you to everyone for their thoughts and general discussion on Mac / OSX. It has helped spure me on and as of this evening I...
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