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Fwd: FW: 10 ways to start a Geek argument   Message List  
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Re: [ST-J] The scam that is movie ticket sales [was:10 ways to start a Geek argument]


On 01/07/2009, at 01:54 , Depasquale, Nicholas (Chicago) wrote:

> Eric I used to think exactly the same as you but I guess I just gave
> in...
>
> The problem isn't just that simple - there are different agreements at
> different theaters - what % get concession what don't then after
> theater
> release - PPV, DVD ,etc
> Remember most of post theater generators didn't exist 20 years ago -
> except for VHS - so it is a different model.
> (For example I believe it was Firefly that actually turned a profit
> only
> after huge DVD sales)


DVD is a massive profit vector for Hollywood now. Notice how movies
can be released on DVD very quickly? Remember the 80s, when a movie
wouldn't come out on VHS for one or even two years after? And the
relative DVD price has dropped a LOT over the last five years and
sales have really boomed (forget that RIAA bullshit - the music
industry is dying because its mainstream product is crap, whereas the
aftermarket sales of DVDs of movies have increased as more people get
home theatres).

We don't even pay for the cable movie channels, we buy DVDs (on the
other hand, every DVD we buy is a legitimate tax deduction for my
wife, who is a specialist film academic, so it makes more sense for us).


> But I think they also stayed in the theaters much longer - I can't
> remember exactly but I thought Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back
> were both in first run theaters for close to a year.
> I think movies today won't last 3 months....

Depends what you call 'first run'. In the old days most movies opened
on only a small number of screens, If they proved to be popular, they
add more screens, and so on, until the interest sags. nowadays a
'blockbuster' will open on as many screens as possible - sometimes for
only a week or two if it's a super-bad lemon.

scot






Wed Jul 1, 2009 12:18 am

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Eric I used to think exactly the same as you but I guess I just gave in... The problem isn't just that simple - there are different agreements at different...
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... DVD is a massive profit vector for Hollywood now. Notice how movies can be released on DVD very quickly? Remember the 80s, when a movie wouldn't come out...
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... Yeah, I hate how they compare the $ amount of ticket sales. It doesn't hold up when you take into account the changing value of ticket prices and...
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On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Simon ... That's a pretty cool site. Glad to see Rocky Horror in the top 100 :D -- Curtis Cooley curtis.cooley@... ...
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... 9 The Exorcist Wow - that one's a surprise. Had no idea it made so much money. DR...
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Well it was a big hit when it was release but the other thing to note is that it had multiple theatrical releases. Simon Mac Donald Email:...
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On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Simon ... I was watching Billy Joe Bob Brigg's Drive In Theater and he told a story about how the director of the Exorcist...
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I wonder if the author of this story (http://www.slate.com/id/2222096) read this thread. He also points to Box Office Mojo. Steven On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at...
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I guess we are a group of trend setters. Simon Mac Donald Email: simon.macdonald@... Twitter: http://twitter.com/macdonst Blog:...
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on the other hand movies are much more expensive to make as well, even 'adjusted for inflation'. hollywood is starting to discover the 'teenage male...
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... Oh it's easily obvious that Charles Xavier ... I mean Avery Bullock ... I meant SEJANUS ... no dammit Gurney Halleck .. is it KARLA?! ... wait .... Picard...
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