I think most people are out there!

Mike J



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Are the same people still out there...?

What a surprise to come in and find that the list and column had been
dropped.  Kind of out of the blue.

- Ellen



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Martin Lightheart wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> It looks like we currently have 25 members at eGroups.  I am going to stay
> subscribed to both lists for a time.  That way I can see who is coming to
> the other list.
>
[snip]
>
> There are a lot more people out there who were on the old list than the 25
> we now have here at eGroups.  Maybe we may have to ask them to join us
> here.  Many of us still have the old mailings.  What do you think?

The eGroups membership is growing: 45 as of 12:00pm.  Let's give a day or so for
people to get the move from n-ary list to the SysCon list and then to get the
move from there to eGroups on their own before we be more aggressive.  I know
_some_ people don't read the ST messages in real time, so they may not be up to
date on current events in the ST world yet. :-)

	 Eric
--
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                          -Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead

Additionally, it comes with KDE pre-configured as your desktop, they claim
80 themes supplied, although I don't think they are all loaded, You can
switch to something else like GNOME I'm sure fairly easily.   The
installation of new software is very easy as well.  They have kpackage,
which I assume is part of KDE, for point and click installation.

However, you can start up a regular terminal at any time, which is what I
did when I compiled and ran my first Java app on Linux.

Mike J



                     mjasnows@midl
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                                          cc:
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                     10:49 AM             Development
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                     respond to
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                     ing_java







I should have said , " I had downloaded the source and never got around to
compiling them"    :)

Mike J



                     mjasnows@midl
                     andls.com            To:
straight_talking_java@egroups.com
                                          cc:
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[straight_talking_java] Re: Linux for Java
                     10:46 AM             Development
                     Please
                     respond to
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                     ing_java







Well, I had never really heard that many bad things about Caledera's
distribution,  and I looked at several others, RH, S.U.S.E, TurboLinux
Workstation, Storm something, Mandrake, and based on price, Calderas $40,
others $50-$60 and above.   I picked Caldera also because of the software
that was packaged with it, JDK1.2, Apache, FTP Server,C/C++ Compiler  Star
Office(not a primary selling point, but a plus none the less).  It comes
with Partition Magic and BootMagic for setting up Linux as well as setting
up dual boots.

The installation was a breeze.  Installs for Linux distributions have
gotten a lot easier.  I remember installing RH 5.2 and having to do alot of
the configuration manually.    Plus, they put the source on a CD for you if
you want to tinker.  You can install from within Windows or boot from CD if
your system supports that.  I had previously downloaded binaries from the
web and never got around to compiling them.  As much as I enjoy tinkering,
when I want to get up and running for development, a CD is very handy.

I'm not sure why they list "Adobe Acrobat Reader, Flash, and RealAudio" as
key features but they are pre-installed none the less.

They also come with a host of other standard utilities, which most of the
other competitors had as well.

Plus, they were the only one I could see that had won awards, so someone
else must think they're doing something right.   Not to say that others
haven't, but they didn't advertise it on the package very effectively.

Mike Jasnowski




                     "Gerald Mays"
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straight_talking_java@egroups.com
                     link.net>            cc:
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[straight_talking_java] Re: Linux for Java
                     05/30/00             Development
                     10:26 AM
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                     respond to
                     straight_talk
                     ing_java






--- In straight_talking_java@egroups.com, mjasnows@m... wrote:
> Anyone else using Linux as their development workstation?   I made
> the choice to switch this weekend and so far I've been havin' fun!
> I picked OpenLinux from Caldera,  I had RH 5.2 previously.   I will
> still be dual booting to WIN because of some JNI stuff that I do,
> and probably for browser work I do.
>
> Mike J

Most fascinating. I have been debating, with myself, making my next
PC
a Linux box from the get go. www.linux.com will deliver already
loaded. But I am also wondering whether to just go with the Intel
version of Solaris 8.

How did you go about choosing Caldera?

regards
gmays


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Are the same people still out there...?

What a surprise to come in and find that the list and column had been dropped. 
Kind of out of the blue.

- Ellen

Testing, testing, 1, 2, 3...

Rubén

Kenneth,

      Your suggestion was eminently reasonable but I
was unable to make the change due to a server error.
I will contact the support/help center and see what
the problem may be.  You should expect that this
change will be made as soon as possible unless there
is a serious objection from other members.

Mike
--- kenneth topp <toppk@...> wrote:
>
> Another request, the prefix to message subjects was:
> "[ST-JDJ]"
> now it is a rather long "[straight_talking_java]"
>
> Can we shorten it to "[ST-J]" so that the subject
> line is more meaningful.
>
> This is rather important for those of us using
> textbased email programs.
>
> Otherwise I will have to write a procmail filter to
> edit the subject.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kenneth Topp
>
>
> On Tue, 30 May 2000, kenneth topp wrote:
>
> >
> > Especially as we are trying to reconstruct as much
> as the old
> > list as soon as possible?  I do also think it's
> not that inviting to the
> > lurkers...
> >
> > I have a farly complete archive of the old list
> (minus that few days of
> > it's existence).  I would be happy to spam all the
> people who posted to it
> > with a cordile invitation to this new list.
> >
> > Kenneth Topp
> >
> >
> >
>
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> combinations.
> > Remember the good 'ol days
> >
> http://click.egroups.com/1/4053/10/_/_/_/959701243/
> >
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> >
> >
>
>
>


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testing again

testing

I should have said , " I had downloaded the source and never got around to
compiling them"    :)

Mike J



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                                          cc:
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[straight_talking_java] Re: Linux for Java
                     10:46 AM             Development
                     Please
                     respond to
                     straight_talk
                     ing_java







Well, I had never really heard that many bad things about Caledera's
distribution,  and I looked at several others, RH, S.U.S.E, TurboLinux
Workstation, Storm something, Mandrake, and based on price, Calderas $40,
others $50-$60 and above.   I picked Caldera also because of the software
that was packaged with it, JDK1.2, Apache, FTP Server,C/C++ Compiler  Star
Office(not a primary selling point, but a plus none the less).  It comes
with Partition Magic and BootMagic for setting up Linux as well as setting
up dual boots.

The installation was a breeze.  Installs for Linux distributions have
gotten a lot easier.  I remember installing RH 5.2 and having to do alot of
the configuration manually.    Plus, they put the source on a CD for you if
you want to tinker.  You can install from within Windows or boot from CD if
your system supports that.  I had previously downloaded binaries from the
web and never got around to compiling them.  As much as I enjoy tinkering,
when I want to get up and running for development, a CD is very handy.

I'm not sure why they list "Adobe Acrobat Reader, Flash, and RealAudio" as
key features but they are pre-installed none the less.

They also come with a host of other standard utilities, which most of the
other competitors had as well.

Plus, they were the only one I could see that had won awards, so someone
else must think they're doing something right.   Not to say that others
haven't, but they didn't advertise it on the package very effectively.

Mike Jasnowski




                     "Gerald Mays"
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straight_talking_java@egroups.com
                     link.net>            cc:
                                          Subject:
[straight_talking_java] Re: Linux for Java
                     05/30/00             Development
                     10:26 AM
                     Please
                     respond to
                     straight_talk
                     ing_java






--- In straight_talking_java@egroups.com, mjasnows@m... wrote:
> Anyone else using Linux as their development workstation?   I made
> the choice to switch this weekend and so far I've been havin' fun!
> I picked OpenLinux from Caldera,  I had RH 5.2 previously.   I will
> still be dual booting to WIN because of some JNI stuff that I do,
> and probably for browser work I do.
>
> Mike J

Most fascinating. I have been debating, with myself, making my next
PC
a Linux box from the get go. www.linux.com will deliver already
loaded. But I am also wondering whether to just go with the Intel
version of Solaris 8.

How did you go about choosing Caldera?

regards
gmays


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Well, I had never really heard that many bad things about Caledera's
distribution,  and I looked at several others, RH, S.U.S.E, TurboLinux
Workstation, Storm something, Mandrake, and based on price, Calderas $40,
others $50-$60 and above.   I picked Caldera also because of the software
that was packaged with it, JDK1.2, Apache, FTP Server,C/C++ Compiler  Star
Office(not a primary selling point, but a plus none the less).  It comes
with Partition Magic and BootMagic for setting up Linux as well as setting
up dual boots.

The installation was a breeze.  Installs for Linux distributions have
gotten a lot easier.  I remember installing RH 5.2 and having to do alot of
the configuration manually.    Plus, they put the source on a CD for you if
you want to tinker.  You can install from within Windows or boot from CD if
your system supports that.  I had previously downloaded binaries from the
web and never got around to compiling them.  As much as I enjoy tinkering,
when I want to get up and running for development, a CD is very handy.

I'm not sure why they list "Adobe Acrobat Reader, Flash, and RealAudio" as
key features but they are pre-installed none the less.

They also come with a host of other standard utilities, which most of the
other competitors had as well.

Plus, they were the only one I could see that had won awards, so someone
else must think they're doing something right.   Not to say that others
haven't, but they didn't advertise it on the package very effectively.

Mike Jasnowski




                     "Gerald Mays"
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                     link.net>            cc:
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Re: Linux for Java
                     05/30/00             Development
                     10:26 AM
                     Please
                     respond to
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                     ing_java






--- In straight_talking_java@egroups.com, mjasnows@m... wrote:
> Anyone else using Linux as their development workstation?   I made
> the choice to switch this weekend and so far I've been havin' fun!
> I picked OpenLinux from Caldera,  I had RH 5.2 previously.   I will
> still be dual booting to WIN because of some JNI stuff that I do,
> and probably for browser work I do.
>
> Mike J

Most fascinating. I have been debating, with myself, making my next
PC
a Linux box from the get go. www.linux.com will deliver already
loaded. But I am also wondering whether to just go with the Intel
version of Solaris 8.

How did you go about choosing Caldera?

regards
gmays


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Another request, the prefix to message subjects was: "[ST-JDJ]"
now it is a rather long "[straight_talking_java]"

Can we shorten it to "[ST-J]" so that the subject line is more meaningful.

This is rather important for those of us using textbased email programs.

Otherwise I will have to write a procmail filter to edit the subject.

Thanks,

Kenneth Topp


On Tue, 30 May 2000, kenneth topp wrote:

>
> Especially as we are trying to reconstruct as much as the old
> list as soon as possible?  I do also think it's not that inviting to the
> lurkers...
>
> I have a farly complete archive of the old list (minus that few days of
> it's existence).  I would be happy to spam all the people who posted to it
> with a cordile invitation to this new list.
>
> Kenneth Topp
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Failed tests, classes skipped, forgotten locker combinations.
> Remember the good 'ol days
> http://click.egroups.com/1/4053/10/_/_/_/959701243/
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> straight_talking_java-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
>
>

I think we should email an invitation out.

BTW. It was interesting that Alan was still talking privately about the
teeshirts being made for JavaOne up until Thursday. Now we need a new
logo....

The teeshirt company is going to kill me..

G.

Especially as we are trying to reconstruct as much as the old
list as soon as possible?  I do also think it's not that inviting to the
lurkers...

I have a farly complete archive of the old list (minus that few days of
it's existence).  I would be happy to spam all the people who posted to it
with a cordile invitation to this new list.

Kenneth Topp

Hey all,

It looks like we currently have 25 members at eGroups.  I am going to stay
subscribed to both lists for a time.  That way I can see who is coming to
the other list.

I don't think it is Sys-Con's fault about the break up of list.  Alan had to
do what he had to do.  I am sorry it had to happen.  I don't think he will
be part of the list at Sys-Con as a matter of principle. But since the
eGroups list is on neutral ground, he might participate at a later date.

Like I mentioned to Alan, replacing him on a Straight Talking column would
be like the replacement of the original Darin (the mortal husband) on
Bewitched (the TV series from the 60's-70's) with that other Darin.  It just
wasn't the same.

There are a lot more people out there who were on the old list than the 25
we now have here at eGroups.  Maybe we may have to ask them to join us
here.  Many of us still have the old mailings.  What do you think?

Martin

I've been using Linux for JSP and Java work for the last 7 months. I
really like it. I started using emacs then moved to JBuilder. I have
Tomcat and Apache running at use MySQL for testing before I move my
work to the staging server which connects to an Oracle database.

I was on a project that used ASP and the M$ JVM to connect to an
Access database. It wasn't a horrible experience, but enough minor
irritations made me lorn for my Linux platform. Now I'm back and I
really am more productive.

Curtis Cooley
Webiness.com
--- In straight_talking_java@egroups.com, mjasnows@m... wrote:
> Anyone else using Linux as their development workstation?   I made
the
> choice to switch this weekend and so far I've been havin' fun!  I
picked
> OpenLinux from Caldera,  I had RH 5.2 previously.   I will still be
dual
> booting to WIN because of some JNI stuff that I do, and probably for
> browser work I do.
>
> Mike J

--- In straight_talking_java@egroups.com, mjasnows@m... wrote:
> Anyone else using Linux as their development workstation?   I made
> the choice to switch this weekend and so far I've been havin' fun!
> I picked OpenLinux from Caldera,  I had RH 5.2 previously.   I will
> still be dual booting to WIN because of some JNI stuff that I do,
> and probably for browser work I do.
>
> Mike J

Most fascinating. I have been debating, with myself, making my next
PC
a Linux box from the get go. www.linux.com will deliver already
loaded. But I am also wondering whether to just go with the Intel
version of Solaris 8.

How did you go about choosing Caldera?

regards
gmays

I had another solution, but yours is quicker ;-)

turn over the four and seven.
when four is empty turn both again.
when seven is empty turn both again.
when four is empty turn both again.
when seven is empty turn both again.
At that point there's sand for 2 minutes in the seven.
start cooking
when the seven is empty turn it and wait for seven more minutes.

Geert Van Damme

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Smith [mailto:wwsmithms@...]
Sent: dinsdag 30 mei 2000 16:46
To: straight_talking_java@egroups.com
Subject: [straight_talking_java] Re: A riddle


--- In straight_talking_java@egroups.com, "Gerald Mays" <gwmays@e...>
wrote:
> Good morning,
>
> Suppose you are tasked with boiling an egg for exactly nine minutes
> but, instead of a clock, you are given two hour glasses. One hour
> glass has 7 minutes of sand, the other 4. How can you accurately
> measure 9 minutes with these two glasses?
>
> I already posted this on the sys-con forum but I wanted to re-post
> here since I really think we need to stop vagabonding and settle.
> So far only Geert Van Damme has responded to the riddle but only to
> say I cook my eggs too long. There we go talking programmer
breakfast
> again.
>
> regards
> gmays
start the 7 and the four at the same time.
when the four is empty turn over the four and the seven.
when the seven is empty turn over the four and the seven and begin
cooking.
turn over the four two more times as it becomes empty.

Mike








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At 03:06 PM 5/30/00 +0000, you wrote:
>Well my preference is to be here, though for the moment I shall
>straddle both groups ;)
>
>BTW Well done to whoever set the list up
>
>Rob


Ditto!

BTW, perhaps someone who's friendly with Alan might want to send him a
"please join" message.  Now that the list is out of SysCon's hands, he
probably will want to be a part of it.  (And I for one would welcome his
participation.)


DR

Well my preference is to be here, though for the moment I shall
straddle both groups ;)

BTW Well done to whoever set the list up

Rob

After seeing this web interface vs the Lyris one from sys-con I
definitely am switching.  Already cancelled my subscription to the
other list.


Jason

--- In straight_talking_java@egroups.com, "Michael  Smith"
<wwsmithms@y...> wrote:
> I have noticed that many of you have subscribed prior to the list
> move
> announcement that I received today.  Are all of you wanting to
> continue with this egroups list?
>
> Mike

Anyone else using Linux as their development workstation?   I made the
choice to switch this weekend and so far I've been havin' fun!  I picked
OpenLinux from Caldera,  I had RH 5.2 previously.   I will still be dual
booting to WIN because of some JNI stuff that I do, and probably for
browser work I do.

Mike J

--- In straight_talking_java@egroups.com, "Gerald Mays" <gwmays@e...>
wrote:
> Good morning,
>
> Suppose you are tasked with boiling an egg for exactly nine minutes
> but, instead of a clock, you are given two hour glasses. One hour
> glass has 7 minutes of sand, the other 4. How can you accurately
> measure 9 minutes with these two glasses?
>
> I already posted this on the sys-con forum but I wanted to re-post
> here since I really think we need to stop vagabonding and settle.
> So far only Geert Van Damme has responded to the riddle but only to
> say I cook my eggs too long. There we go talking programmer
breakfast
> again.
>
> regards
> gmays
start the 7 and the four at the same time.
when the four is empty turn over the four and the seven.
when the seven is empty turn over the four and the seven and begin
cooking.
turn over the four two more times as it becomes empty.

Mike

Good morning,

Suppose you are tasked with boiling an egg for exactly nine minutes
but, instead of a clock, you are given two hour glasses. One hour
glass has 7 minutes of sand, the other 4. How can you accurately
measure 9 minutes with these two glasses?

I already posted this on the sys-con forum but I wanted to re-post
here since I really think we need to stop vagabonding and settle.
So far only Geert Van Damme has responded to the riddle but only to
say I cook my eggs too long. There we go talking programmer breakfast
again.

regards
gmays

Well here are the final results of the closest BOTM voting ever.

June: Java Enterprise in a Nutshell
July: Java Design Patterns
August: Applied Cryptography

Since the voting was so close I added an extra month on the voting results.
I put Java Design Patterns & Applied Cryptography in that order because more
people voted for June & July's books in tandem.

If you have a problem with the ordering speak now...

Later...

Simon

-------------------------------------

Votes) Title, Author, ISBN

8) Java Enterprise in a Nutshell by David Flanagan, et al ISBN:
1565924835
7) Java Design Patterns: A Tutorial by James William Cooper ISBN:
0201485397
7) Applied Cryptography by Bruce Schneier ISBN: 0471117099
5) UML Distilled by Martin Fowler ISBN: 020165783X
5) The Advent of the Algorithm : The Idea that Rules the World by
David Berlinski ISBN: 0151003386
5) Mastering Enterprise JavaBeans and the Java 2 Platform,
Enterprise Edition by Ed Roman ISBN: 0471332291
4) Designing Web Useability by Jakob Neilsen ISBN: 156205810X
2) Professional XML by Wrox author team ISBN: 1861003110


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I'm on both lists too.
I'll just wait and see what comes out ;-)

Geert Van Damme

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Simon Mac Donald [mailto:macdonst@...]
> Sent: dinsdag 30 mei 2000 16:05
> To: straight_talking_java@egroups.com
> Subject: RE: [straight_talking_java] Re: are we going to use this group?
>
>
> I'm currently on both the Sys-con and eGroups lists.  We really
> need to get
> everyone over to one list!
>
>
> >From: Johan Dahlström <Johan.Dahlstrom@...>
> >Reply-To: straight_talking_java@egroups.com
> >To: straight_talking_java@egroups.com
> >Subject: RE: [straight_talking_java] Re: are we going to use this group?
> >Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 15:19:34 +0200
> >
> > >> Are all of you wanting to
> > >> continue with this egroups list?
> > >>
> > >> Mike
> > >
> > >I'm for moving here asap.
> >
> >Me too, if the rest tags along...
> >
> >Regards
> >Johan Dahlstrom
>
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I'm currently on both the Sys-con and eGroups lists.  We really need to get
everyone over to one list!


>From: Johan Dahlström <Johan.Dahlstrom@...>
>Reply-To: straight_talking_java@egroups.com
>To: straight_talking_java@egroups.com
>Subject: RE: [straight_talking_java] Re: are we going to use this group?
>Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 15:19:34 +0200
>
> >> Are all of you wanting to
> >> continue with this egroups list?
> >>
> >> Mike
> >
> >I'm for moving here asap.
>
>Me too, if the rest tags along...
>
>Regards
>Johan Dahlstrom

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>> Are all of you wanting to
>> continue with this egroups list?
>>
>> Mike
>
>I'm for moving here asap.

Me too, if the rest tags along...

Regards
Johan Dahlstrom

--- In straight_talking_java@egroups.com, "Michael  Smith"
<wwsmithms@y...> wrote:
> I have noticed that many of you have subscribed prior to the list
> move
> announcement that I received today.  Are all of you wanting to
> continue with this egroups list?
>
> Mike

I'm for moving here asap.

Regards
gmays

I have noticed that many of you have subscribed prior to the list
move
announcement that I received today.  Are all of you wanting to
continue with this egroups list?

Mike