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45560
Anyone here use HTTPort and/or HTTHost (www.htthost.com)? Can you confirm if the public HTTHost servers are working today? Can you confim that www.htthost.com...
Eric Rizzo
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May 2, 2005
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45561
Just would be nice to compare notes with others who have worked with this stuff. Boy it sure has been time-consuming to setup but I am starting from zero so I...
Miles Parker
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May 2, 2005
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45562
I can't get there from Calgary. Tracert doesn't give me anything either. Can't resolve target. G....
Gunter Sammet
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May 2, 2005
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45563
I can't get to htthost. I can't even ping it. ... -- Rob Diana robdiana@......
Rob Diana
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45564
On Mon, 2 May 2005 16:10:42 -0400, "Rob Diana" <robdiana@...> ... Same here, DNS doesn't know zilch about it... ... -- ==================================...
Nils Winkler
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45565
Just stumbled upon this article by Martin Fowler that cleared up some misconceptions I had about Mock Objects. I had heard about them but assumed they were...
Eric N Rizzo
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May 3, 2005
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45566
... This is a very good article. I go back to it from time to time. Then again, most of the stuff on his site is great. I tend to lean towards...
Curtis Cooley
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45567
... I came upon that article a while ago, but I have to admit I didn't quite grok it. Can someone clarify/simplify any of this: "Stubs are typically used to...
Rosenstrauch, David
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May 3, 2005
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45568
The main difference as I understand is this: Stub - class that returns static values or provides empty implementations of methods. Mock - class that can return...
Rob Diana
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45569
By "which style" I guess you mean state-based (real secondary objects, stub secondary objects) vs. interaction based (mock secondary objects). I'm curious...
Bob Foster
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May 3, 2005
4:46 pm
45570
I think I got that part. Unit tests should test, at most, one class. So each test generally has one object under test. You run the test, verify the state of...
Bob Foster
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May 3, 2005
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... Does this help? Hmmmm. I dunno, I guess a little. I'm still a bit confused though. Maybe someone can cough up a simple concrete example for a stub and...
Rosenstrauch, David
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May 3, 2005
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... confused ... for a ... The article does exactly that, near the beginning. I found the example very helpful in grokking what he wrote before and after it. ...
Eric Rizzo
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May 3, 2005
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... That is half of what I perceive of the difference. What I see as the other difference, what MF seems to be more interested in, is how using the interactive...
Eric Rizzo
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May 3, 2005
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45574
... I think I overlooked it. I'll give it another read later. Thanks, DR ============================================================================== This...
Rosenstrauch, David
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May 3, 2005
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45575
blah blah blah yelp...
Eric Rizzo
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45576
... This is the beauty of TDD. When I run into this situation, I can't help but think that the method really belongs on the class who's state it changes. -- ...
Curtis Cooley
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May 3, 2005
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45577
... Aha. Just went back and read the article again - in detail now, instead of skimming it - and things make much more sense now. I've not come across this...
Rosenstrauch, David
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May 3, 2005
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45578
... Don't be silly. The reason I brought it up in the first place was to stimulate discussion, and you obliged. ;-) Eric...
Eric Rizzo
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May 3, 2005
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45579
... Well, yeah. But rather than directly discussing the topic, I kind diverted things into "I don't get it". And I would have gotten it if I had just...
Rosenstrauch, David
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45580 Eric Rizzo
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45581
The other half you refer to is just the oft-discovered fact that how you write tests influences how you write code. Starting with: writing tests at all tends...
Bob Foster
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45582
Having now read through the entire Fortress spec (and understood maybe 10% of it, though some of the words look familiar) the language it reminds me most of...
Bob Foster
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May 3, 2005
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45583
Wow, that is quite a range! PL/I, really?! I would love to see a relatvily simple but non-trivial example ap....
Miles Parker
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May 4, 2005
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45584
I meant to allude to the "kitchen sink" aspect of these languages relative to their time. Each of those sought to incorporate every good idea in language...
Bob Foster
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May 4, 2005
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45585
Yea, its the functional part that intrigues me -- how they do this and have it be somewaht Algol like will be interesting -- I know I always bring this up but...
Miles Parker
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May 4, 2005
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45586
Yea, its the functional part that intrigues me -- how they do this and have it be somewaht Algol like will be interesting -- I know I always bring this up but...
Miles Parker
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May 4, 2005
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45587
Also wanted to add that my real hope for this category does lie in the Doman Specific stuff like that link I posted a while back for JetBrain's stuff. But...
Miles Parker
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May 4, 2005
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45588
... you ... While I agree, I'd like to clarify further. What you mention above is only half of "the other half" that I was trying to describe. The other aspect...
Eric Rizzo
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45589
... Well, here's one difference that I'm wondering might flow from use of the state-based approach: might that method perhaps force you to have more "query my...
Rosenstrauch, David
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