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pro-CIA, fishing for truth can blow one's mind - Re: Ira Einhorn's   Message List  
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Jack,

[you wrote below]

" For the record, I am pro-CIA and always have been. Most of these stories
about CIA and illegal drug trade are known to be old Cold War KGB
disinformation. Stephen Schwartz has the details on this. David is a well
meaning patsy of the Imbecile New Age Left masterminded by the Occult Third
Reich in unholy alliance with rogue elements of the old Stalinist KGB who
trained the Iraqis and the al Qaeda/Wahhabi networks since the end of WWII."

So, for the record also, I am not at all against the CIA per se; I fully
agree with your view that it can only help the situation to offer them
"higher intelligence"; but I am rather deeply concerned about extensive
evidence which you and Schwarz prejudicially or intentionally ignore,
evidence about the enormous scale of influence by illegal drug trade
regarding nearly unfathomable levels of corruption to the highest levels in
politics and especially within unaccountable various governments' intel and
law enforcement agencies on many issues especially including copious
documentation of corrupt criminals under color of CIA authority
participating in smuggling heroin to the US during the Vietnam War, the
Iran-Contra drugs for arms trade, heroin trade from Afghanistan linked to
present situation, the Cocaine Vietnam developing in Columbia, etc., etc.,
(http://www.copvcia.com http://www.narconews.com
http://www.cia-drugs.org) -- all "coincidentally" linked to destabilization
of local populations needed to access oil supplies for profiteering fossil
fuel energy industry which should have long ago been replaced by the
new-energy technologies which you and others keep saying do not exist but
which copious evidence shows is being actively suppressed
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/strategic-plan
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/new-energy-solutions )

Your and Schwartz' red-baiting cannot overcome the facts. Perhaps someday
someone whose intellect you respect will get some of these facts into your
"thick head" :-) --- since you are "not interested" and "too busy" to face
the truth of this matter on which you are clearly prejudicially blinded. I
would think that those in CIA who are not corrupted, perhaps one on this cc
list, would want to investigate and root out this problem, if they thought
that
they would live to tell about it.

Actually, it would be fine for you and the general public to remain unaware
of the truth of the matter in this regard if there were an alternative way
to fix the problem. Fishing for such truth can result in one's mind being
blown away as severely as one's being pulled overboard and drowned by a big
fish. On a large public scale this could result in the "mental eschaton"
from public outrage of historical proportions with unforseeably unpleasant
results. Unlike most activists, I am personally infinitely more concerned
about correcting the problems than punishing the wrongdoers who, with
"higher intelligence," would logically repent, correct their thinking, and
then use their talents and positions to fix the problems they previously
helped create --- if they were aware of a "better way" which is what is
offered by "paradigm shifting" physics of consciousness views whose
correction in human thinking automatically reapplies faith and belief,
harmonizing conflicting religious and political doctrines, with intent
directed towards globally cooperative beneficial results instead of what we
have today resultant from no-holds-barred competition, arrogance, greed, and
ignorance of the natural order by which the mind of humankind operates.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gcsc-csun/message/6

When the veil of deception is lifted, intstead of the expected enemy behind
it, one will only find a mirror there.

BTW, I haven't the foggiest idea what you mean by "Imbecile New Age Left
masterminded by the Occult Third Reich in unholy alliance with rogue
elements of the old Stalinist KGB who trained the Iraqis and the al
Qaeda/Wahhabi networks since the end of WWII" in spite of your previous
subject-changing Jackshift rantings about Macroshift, New Age Psychobble,
etc., etc., etc. Can you refer a url or other source of documentation of
whatever the heck cockamamie thesis you are trying to portray there? What
evidence? I would love to see some documented evidence that the KGB has had
more to do with training the Iraqis and the al Qaeda/Wahhabi networks than
the CIA has per the well documented evidence at the three url's that I first
reference above.

David



----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Sarfatti" <sarfatti@...>
To: "David Crockett Williams" <gear2000@...>
Cc: "Conroy, Theresa" <conroyt@...>;
<ira-einhorn@yahoogroups.com>; "Linda Loyd" <lloyd@...>;
"apbnews" <pressinquiry@...>; "Robert Moran"
<bmoran@...>; "Gloria Campisi" <campisg@...>; "Dan
Rubin" <Dan.Rubin@...>; "Marty Moss-Coane"
<martym@...>; "WHYY Radio NPR" <talkback@...>; "Philadelphia
Inquirer (PA)" <Inquirer.Opinion@...>; "Philadelphia Daily News"
<DailyNews.Opinion@...>; "Jonathan Takiff"
<takiffj@...>; "Jacqueline Soteropoulos"
<jsoteropoulos@...>; "Catherine Austin Fitts"
<catherine@...>; "Stephen Schwartz" <karastjepan@...>; "Steven
Levy" <steven@...>; "Damnation Smith" <dansmith@...>; "David
Gladstone" <davidg3141@...>; "Denise" <RNGUTS@...>; "Saul Paul
Sirag" <sirag@...>; "Alan Parker" <cmdrparker@...>;
"APOLLINAIR" <APOLLINAIR@...>; "Ron Pandolfi" <pandolfi@...>;
"Foggy Writer" <CloudRider@...>
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: Ira Einhorn's Case and Issues Conroy Fundraising Campaign


>
>
> David Crockett Williams wrote:
>
> > Dear Theresa,
> >
> > Thanks for the early report on Ira Einhorn's court appearance today and
> > advice of his mention of need for a legal defense fundraising campaign
which
> > you have inspired me to initiate here on a small scale by copying this
to
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ira-einhorn public list/archive for
> > information on his case and info on issues related to his claim of
innocence
> > due to being framed by US or foreign intel agencies for the Maddux
murder to
> > shut him up about sensitive issues he was bringing to public attention
in
> > the 60's and 70's such as CIA complicity in the illegal drug trade
(current
> > info at http://www.copvcia.com), legalization of marijuana and
psychedelic
> > drugs, CIA mind-control (MK Ultra, etc), government UFO coverup
> > (http://www.cseti.org) and perhaps related advanced technologies being
> > coopted for military purposes instead of peaceful new-energy
technologies to
> > replace nuclear and fossil fuel tech as per longtime Einhorn
acquaintance US
> > Army Lt.Col (ret.) Thomas Bearden(http://www.cheniere.org) et.al., CIA
> > remote viewing experiments and related physics of consciousness
applications
> > to new weaponry as per network of leading physicists and others
> > collaborating with Dr. Sarfatti for whom Einhorn was his first book
> > publishing agent http://www.stardrive.org , etc., etc., etc.
>
> Well, I was in a war with the KGB sponsored est at the time which may be
relevant since Ira was promoting me at that time. But why did they not
simply off me rather than frame Ira?
>
> >
> > Assumedly, until he has arranged some kind of account with whoever his
new
> > attorney will be, Ira cannot receive funds himself for his legal defense
due
> > to outstanding civil judgement related to the Maddux case which
garnishes
> > any funds in his name.
> >
> > Even more than the particulars of his legal case, my interest is in
bringing
> > attention to under-reported documentation of issues such as above
related
> > to his case that relate to his contention of being framed for the Maddux
> > murder.
> >
> > I am unaware of anyone doing a fundraising campaign as of now for his
legal
> > defense; assumedly he is doing that now by way of media and perhaps
someone
> > like a Phillip Cohen or Johnny Cochran type attorney will hear about the
> > case and take it pro bono.
> >
> > In any case, folks on the Ira Einhorn yahoogroup list, or those who view
its
> > archived posts, and other interested contacts, will keep following this
> > story for details on if and how they can contribute to his defense fund
> > and/or to projects to bring out the facts about key related issues such
as
> > above.
> >
> > Although you are a professional journalist for the Philly Inquirer and
> > following the "ethics" of your profession and a court verdict you are
> > "justified" in the demonizing tone of your past articles
> > about Ira Einhorn at http://www.phillynews.com . But in spite of your
direct
> > communications with his longtime friend and collaborator Dr. Jack
Sarfatti
> > http://www.stardrive.org whose information alone (to be included in
expected
> > in his upcoming deposition on this case) supports the "Ira was framed
for
> > murder" hypothesis strongly enough by itself to cast at least a
reasonable
> > doubt of his guilt due to the particulars including seemingly related
> > suspicious deaths he is aware of, nevertheless you have never responded
with
> > any shred of doubt in the published verdict of his in-absentia
conviction
> > which did not present "his side of the story" in any substantive way,
nor
> > has any of your articles mentioned one iota of data related to this
> > alternative hypothesis, ie, very unbalanced reporting in my view. But
this
> > is consistent with the general state of the overall hoodwinked US media
on
> > many of these issues so in that regard on this matter you represent
> > classically its ignorance and prejudices. I would think that you would
> > have at least gotten something publishable quoting another longtime
Einhorn
> > acquaintance, former GHW Bush HUD official Catherine Austin Fitts
> > (http://www.solari.com) who in my mind would be the most appropriate
> > candidate to
> > head and/or promote such a fundraising campaign because of her financial
> > experience and deep insights on scope of government agencies' corruption
> > as in the CIA-complicit illegal drug trade influencing the stock market
and
> > targeting minority populations for HUD housing forfeitures under
"drug-war"
> > auspices as per
> > basis of the 1999 lawsuit against CIA supported by unanimous vote of
Jerry
> > Brown's Oakland City Council as per copvcia.com above.
>
> For the record, I am pro-CIA and always have been. Most of these stories
about CIA and illegal drug trade are known to be old Cold War KGB
disinformation. Stephen Schwartz has the details on this. David is a well
meaning patsy of the Imbecile New Age Left masterminded by the Occult Third
Reich in unholy alliance with rogue elements of the old Stalinist KGB who
trained the Iraqis and the al Qaeda/Wahhabi networks since the end of WWII.
>
> http://qedcorp.com/book/psi/hitweapon.html (written by me in 1978 BTW
based on 1976 stories by Jan Brewer at Esalen in Big Sur)
>
> >
> >
> > Therefore I would suggest to Ira that a fundraising campaign to address
> > above matters be called the "Ira Einhorn's Case and Issues Conroy
> > Fundraising Campaign", although I'm quite sure he will also not take
kindly
> > to your name being used in such way :-)
> >
> > When I have any info on how folks can contribute financially I will post
it
> > to the Einhorn yahoogroup list above.
> >
> > Thanks for the inspiration and indirect suggestion for the launch now of
> > this unofficial fundraising campaign as described above.
> >
> > Those interested in postal correspondance with Ira Einhorn can email me
> > directly for his mailing address.
> >
> > David Crockett Williams gear2000@...
> > an American Peace Movement member
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/an-american-peace-movement
> >
> > moderator, Ira-Einhorn Yahoogroup
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ira-einhorn
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Conroy, Theresa" <conroyt@...>
> > To: <gear2000@...>
> > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 9:58 AM
> > Subject: Ira Einhorn
> >
> > > Do you know if there is anyone actively raising funds for Ira
Einhorn's
> > > defense? He mentioned in court today that he was seeking funds, and
I'd
> > like
> > > to interview anyone involved in the effort.
> > > Thanks,
> > > Theresa Conroy
> > > Philadelphia Daily News
>
> --
> "What I cannot create. I do not understand." Richard Feynman
>
>






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