From: "David Crockett Williams" <gear2000@...>
Subject: "humanity on Earth", "exaggerated hype about your theories and
experiments" Re: Mallove's Cold Fusion Letter
Date: Thursday, December 13, 2001, 9:28 PM

"Hal Fox, David Crockett Williams, Steve Greer and even Joe, are not helping
you and Bernie and Ken Shoulders with their exaggerated hype about your
theories and experiments." -- Sarfatti to Puthoff, December 13, 2001

Jack, please quote any part of anything I have ever emailed which you see as
"exaggerated hype" about about Hal Puthoff's "theories and experiments".

For the record, my understanding of his work is limited to his recognition
by DOE in 1998 as their recognized authority in theoretical physics
regarding the possibility of extracting, or "mining" as DOE poetically
described the potential process, usable energy from the "Zero Point Energy"
field apparently a property of the quantum vacuum flux as per 1941
prediction of Casimir and an experiment published in 1997 physics journals
recognized by DOE which for the first time measures a predicted very
sensitive/slight "Casimir Effect" which they say proves the existence of the
ZPE and which apparently is related to that energy field of the vacuum of
space at absolute zero temperature predicted/calculated by John Wheeler in
1963 as 10^93g/cc energy equivalent. This "quantum vacuum flux" I assume is
considered existent by some kind of experiments excluding "psi"
considerations and following the logic of Heisenberg's uncertainty
principle -- which itself cannot be certainly true by definition :-)

As far as my representations of Puthoff, et. al., theoretical views on ZPE
potential for "free energy" generation ("extraction/transformation" of
usable energy as heat or electricity from the ZPE) the above mention of him
in our May 12, 1998, letter from DOE on this matter is all I really have
commented on and referenced, not being technically/educationally qualified
to comment on the details of their theories on ZPE as published.

As far as my previous representations of Puthoff, et. al., experiments, I
have said nothing in my emails about them, with the one
exception of an "almost experiment", since I have not studied them at all.
I have heard that he has done some tests on some equipment and says
that he has not found anything that works which he can attribute to the
operation of his "ZPE theory" as he/they understand and represent it
mathematically. I'm not conviced that if he found something he would report
it publicly anyway.

I have repeatedly made mention of others' beliefs that some devices claimed
as "overunity" devices are somehow "tapping into" the ZPE as the source of
their power, eg, Adam Trombly with the Trombly-Khan Closed Path Homopolar
Generator of the 1980's, and the Trombly-Farnsworth Solid State Oscillating
Electromagnetic System of the 1990's destroyed in Oregon in 1996 by US
Federal Marshals et al -- the device one of whose earlier prototype primary
coils I understand that Hal later "almost tested" in San Francisco under
ISSO auspices but another simple cicuit component part could not be found in
local stores to allow that test that day.

But your point is well taken, at least by me, that many folks have "latched
on to" the notion that perhaps these various devices "out there" which we
have been hearing about, many or all of them may in some way be interacting
or "connecting" with Zero Point Energy as part how they operate. I know
Trombly feels this way about both of his devices but I do not know if he
understands or agrees entirely with the published theories on "ZPE".

The overall effect of folks too enthusiastically "suspecting" that the
operation of a particlar device is somehow connected to Zero Point Energy,
which it may or may not be, is to subjugate the validity and potential value
of their work to the judge of the "ZPE authorities". Joseph Newman, for
example, feels strongly
against that idea and has his own theory of how his machine works which he
feels its operation proves as a correct theory connecting gravity, inertia,
electricity, and magnetism. I think Bearden and Wood have some ideas about
how the ZPE theory and perhaps Torsion Field Theory connect to their
understanding of the original Maxwell's equations evolution which is another
way folks are looking at how these devices could be working.

DePalma refrained from any theoretical speculations about his results except
to repeatedly say that all of his experiments documenting previously
unsuspected influences of rotation gravitational, inertial, and
electromagnetic properties, are all due to interactions of the rotating
matter with "an energy field in space itself, the space in which matter
resides", a field that because of what he called something like a time
dimension factor he name the "OD" field.

To the extent that people try to explain operation of these devices in terms
of Puthoff's theory, they may or may not be correct. Someone in his
position vis a vis his widely publicized long history of involvement with
CIA related "secret science research and reporting", someone like this
would not be the most credible person, in my view, for anyone to base
their assessment of the relative merit of the various "new-energy" or
"free-energy" technologies.

It is a "mixed blessing" that Puthoff is the "Big Man in ZPE" these days
since on the one hand his/their published research lends generic support to
the previously "wild eyed" claims of "free energy" from an "energy field in
space itself", but at the same time, on the other hand, it puts on the
pedestal of understanding someone who is then in the position to
prestigiously suppress and discredit work in this area because doesn't fit
his theory's "mathematical pigeonholes" (common mental illness of
theoretical physicists who don't do experiments), because he can't duplicate
others' claims of experimental success, or because he is being "patriotic"
by intentionally suppressing this new energy info at government request?

In fact, in light of the past events I have detailed before to you in many
emails about this matter some of which are archived at url below, simple
logic would indicate it likely that Puthoff and Wheeler are probably two of
the main American scientists responsible for the stonewalling and coverup of
the truth of the exisiting availablity of these new energy technologies to
replace nuclear and fossil fuel power. These two folks being "in your
circle" makes the honestey of your views on this matter suspect to my mind,
Jack, combined with your previous and consistent refusal to discuss your own
"secrecy clearances" as "none of my business".

As you might say, I hope I'm wrong about that but I doubt it :-)

Isn't it time to end or at least re-examine the Federal government's
"dual-use" secrecy orders which have confiscated countless of these
inventions in the last decades and gagged hundreds of inventors about them?

I'm not aware of what you mean by "strong opposing clarifying statements,
like Creon's" but since you say it is now in your book I will look for it
there online after/if/when I get my rudimentary computer upgraded to handle
the reading software, probably right after I sit down with my mom and watch
you on the Oprah Winfrey Show discussing Gary Zukov's rave review of your
new "Destiny Matrix" book :-)

I don't know exactly what Hal Fox or Steven Greer's views are on Puthoff
and ZPE, but I think it is clearly time for an open and global-level free
information exchange "crash program" like O'Leary's New Apollo Project about
rapidly developing the applications of all these theories and experiments
towards an environmentally remediating new energy economy which obviates the
need to create reasons to go to war for oil. Instead of putting humanity on
the Moon, this time let's get real humanity on Earth.

To the extent that Torsion Field Theory, Newman's theory, Mills' theory, the
Original Maxwell equations, etc., that these approaches are not rooted in a
foundation based on Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle then I think they
have much more promise than ZPE theory which will be proven completely empty
when HUP falls by and awakening to the latent innate human knowledge that we
CAN know the truth with 100% certainty.

When the "science-consciousness factor" is adequately understood and applied
then these devices will work and be understood simultaneously. When you
find the "equation" for belief, you may also find that these technologies
can
only be developed after people believe that they can.

David Crockett Williams
Science and Technology in Society and Public Policy
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dcwilliams


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Sarfatti" <sarfatti@...>
To: <Puthoff@...>
Cc: [same as above]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: Mallove's Cold Fusion Letter


> Yes, it's in the book.
>
> http://stardrive.org/Jack/Book.pdf
>
> new version 9 megs just now uploaded. It goes to printed matter version
next Monday.
>
> You need Adobe Acrobat Reader 5 to open secure pdf format.
>
> I have no disagreement with you on any experimental question since I am
not an experimentalist and you are.
>
> I recuse myself on detailed experimental debates unless it is a flaw of
argument that is really obvious.
>
> Our differences are only on the theory where I claim superiority over you
and Bernie. ;-)
>
> I will give you space to state your theory case in SUPER COSMOS next
technical book in the pipeline. Saul-Paul and Creon can moderate the debate.
>
> Mean time Hal Fox, David Crockett Williams, Steve Greer and even Joe, are
not helping you and Bernie and Ken Shoulders with their exaggerated hype
about your theories and experiments. You really all need to make strong
opposing clarifying statements, like Creon's, to their propaganda campaign
of vapor ware, mis and disinformation, whether intentional or by sheer
technical incompetence on their parts
>
> Puthoff@... wrote:
>
> > Creon said it all perfectly, and I agree with every word of it. Anyone
> > interested in our efforts to find viable energy claims but in the end
> > shooting them down can check our website http://www.earthtech.org.
Nonetheless, we
> > continue to follow this bouncing ball in hopes that some maverick
inventor
> > (or ourselves) will stumble on something that actually works.
> >
> > Hal Puthoff
>
> --
> "What I cannot create. I do not understand." Richard Feynman
>
>