... I did not mean to say that aph. 190 is in the central part of anything. That is just hasty writing. What I meant was that the use of centrality (as in ...
I want to thank everyone for their comments on what has been said so far. Below are some comments/questions on what Mr. Pehme has said. Later, I hope to have...
... Apollo. ... Dionysos and ... this god ... of ... no ... Strauss ... used in his ... terms with ... truth may ... Nietzsche, in ... every ... presents ... ...
Joe Pomonomo writes: [snip] ... I do not believe that it is Nietzsche's intent to have an interior or exterior. I mean that one cannot speak of a real or...
Harveycmd writes: [snip] ... Well, of course, the nifty thing is that there is no Nietzsche without Plato and no one appears to know that more than Nietzsche! ...
... without Plato ... Quite right. Returning to Strauss's "Note...", we can address Nietzsche vis a vis Plato because Strauss immedidately sets the stage for...
... Perhaps the most beautiful description of the philosopher only appears in BGE - see "the genius of the heart" ("penultimate" 295). Strauss draws attention...
Brett Dutton
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Jul 2, 2002 3:14 am
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Brett Dutton writes: [snip] ... I don't think that Strauss chooses 188 to be the most important aphorism. Quite clearly, the most important one is 150, and it...
... aphorism. ... to be ... and ... not mean ... mind, 150 is ... philosophy of ... In Strauss's reference to aphorism 188 he is keen to point out Nietzsche's...
Harveycmd writes: [snip] ... I am not sure that this is the case. It is only apparently a problem for Nietzsche. ... I believe in the case of this aphorism,...
Hello harveycmd; i agree with much that you say but i am more far more nihilistic than you! - see below. HARVEYCMD: In his introduction to SPPP Pangle touches...
... us. ... I don't think that I agree that if there are no forms, no enternal ideas, thean all one can intelligently look at this the nearest, etc. Obviously...
... Strauss does single out 150 as a "peak" and connects it with 9, particularly the last line. It is interesting that "nature" is the theme of 9. Cheers, ...
Brett Dutton
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Jul 3, 2002 2:50 am
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... Yes, Strauss, in his lecture, points to the first line of 188: "Every morality . . . against 'nature'; also against 'reason'" is a reference to Rousseau...
Brett Dutton
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Jul 3, 2002 3:07 am
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... The key to 188 is Nietzsche's non use of inverted commas to indicate his own view of nature. Strauss says the inverted commas around the various uses of ...
Brett Dutton
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Jul 3, 2002 4:21 am
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... No, the theme of 9 is the philosopher's creativity and his desire to create a world and the false attribution of nature to that creation. Nature is an ...
... to create ... Nature is an ... measure man ... world. That ... No the theme of section 9 is nature. As I am sure you are aware, and are maybe attempting to...
... Agreed. Strauss returns (perhaps Strauss's comic imitation of Nietzsche's eternal return) to the subject of nature at the end of the "Note", pp. 189 & 199....
Brett Dutton
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Jul 4, 2002 3:48 am
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The fourth sentence in our essay reads, "To illustrate this partly by an example which is perhaps not too far-fetched, there seems to be general agreement to...
... The problem is one of unity, i.e., whether at a certain metaphysical point beauty and goodness and profoundity and the perfect order of logos are one and...
... professors ... Now, ... they ... that ... Can we not, given Strauss's own statement, conclude that he himself did not find the Repulic and Symposium and...
Harveycmd writes: [snip] ... As I have not been in a grad school, I was wondering whether at the time that Strauss wrote this passage whether it was the...
... Why did Plato want the Symposium and the Republic to be so beautiful? To be attractive to the young - also Nietzsche's goal in BGE. Prof. Bruell usually...
Brett Dutton
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Jul 5, 2002 2:56 am
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... Well, yes; however, you also forget that the primary and essential character of _all_ Greek art was to be beautiful no matter what. All of Plato's ...
Harveycmd writes: [snip] ... I don't think we are in disagreement here. Nietzsche's view of nature is different from all views of nature before him, modern and...
When I was in grad school the professoriate at the university I attended who were in fact intrested in Plato appeared to me to have viewed the _Sophist_ as...
Could it be that both Heidegger and Strauss either did not comment on the statement of truth and woman because they took it to be a rhetorical gesture on the...
... Generally speaking, Strauss is a very careful reader, perhaps the most careful reader of anyone in the 20th century. He goes to extraordinary lengths to...
In his lecture, Strauss points out that the title - 'Beyond Good and Evil' " - doesn't mean "beyond good and bad" as Nietzsche makes clear in BGE and in GOM....
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