Dear List Members: As the discussion is going fast and furious, I will continue with the next two paragraphs as they are both short. We go from Socrates's...
Dear List Members: We go from the prejudice in favor of tragedy to the view that Socrates's trial and death is tragic, but whose argument is not a prejudice,...
Dear List Members: With the introduction of Hegel into the lectures, Strauss continues: "Hegel's statement reminds us the obstacles which one has to overcome...
Strauss portrays Aristophanes as a defender of the rural regime, the ancient Marathon regime... whose fundamental backbone is the farmer who held the lines...
Something has been bothering me about the 1958 reference.. that everyone bandies about. Are these class lectures or public lectures? I ask this.... George...
In reply to Mr Bates, who said in part - ... (a little snipped) ... The 1960 transcript and the 1958 lectures are publications of two different oral...
David North
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Mr North, Thanks for the info... I thought Anastaplo could not be wrong.. nor would everyone else who so confidantly assert the 58 time frame. Does anyone know...
... Here is the difficulty: As I pointed out before, the rural man is not a real man as portrayed by Aristophanes, and Aristophanes knows it! The plays are not...
Mr. Pehme, Although they share a common humanity, there are little else they share.. that is city men and rural ones... their value sets are different. I send...
... I think you are inaccurate here. Most of the violence done in both French Revolutions was done in urban areas, not rural areas. History shows that the...
... We are not just talking the French Revolution; we are talking about ancient times, Medieval times, and the times when the rural people were either hoplites...
Clifford Bates writes: [snip] ... My natural man is not meant to have that Rousseauian ring, but it does. I meant that the rural man lives closer to nature and...
I am sorry. I sent the last message prematurely by accident. Clifford Bates writes: [snip] ... My natural man is not meant to have that Rousseauian ring, but...
... Again, back to this problem: I believe that we are formulating the problem incorrectly between us both because we are using the word "city" rather than ...
... Actually, Strauss does to a fashion a bit later in this lecture, which I will write about when I get there. ... Yes, very true, but the issue Strauss is...
Dear List Members: Strauss continues: "This is not to deny that Aristophanean comedy abounds with what is ridiculous on the lowest level. But that comedy never...
Dear List Members: Strauss continues: "We must try to find the proper expression for that regarding which Aristophanes is serious. The proper expression, i.e.,...
... thesis by ... What Strauss states is in complete agreement with hegelian dialectic. The negation of the negation is not simply a negating but, rather, a...
... Yes, and no, so to speak. The issue is whether there is a permanent [transcendent] whole within which this negation and balance is achieved that is...
Dear List Members: Because Strauss himself did not edit these lectures nor pass on their form, I have not made any point regarding any centrality in this...
Dear List Members: Strauss continues: "Yet how can one present the defeat of the unjust by ridiculous means without making ridiculous the victorious justice?...
Dear List Members: This message is a bit long. As this kind of messaging tends to be disjointed, I decided to join these three paragraphs together for a more ...
I am sorry if you already have received this message. I never got the bounce back, and hence I am sending it again in its entirety. Dear List Members: This...
Dear List Members: I have had difficulties posting to this and the Strauss group as well as receiving messages. So if you receive more than one or a repost...
This paragaraph has repeatedly struck me as a problem insofar as Strauss appears to be downplaying or avoiding certain things about "Peace" (which is an...
David Wilfinger writes: This paragaraph has repeatedly struck me as a problem insofar as Strauss appears to be downplaying or avoiding certain things about...
Dear List Members: Continuing right along, Strauss writes: "The same theme is treated from a somewhat different point of view in the _Wasps_." The theme...
Dear List Members: What we are slowly seeing in Strauss's recapitulation of the Aristophanean plays besides the _Clouds_ is that there are a number of...