Dear friends of STV, I decided to put some bones on my limited theory between Hare and Droop quotas and see what quotas have to offer from the data on the 2001...
02/02/02 - The New South Wales council: Dear Deane, Yes, I am very interested in your post of 30 Jan 2002. I have a few questions. You stated that there are...
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Feb 2, 2002 8:22 am
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02/02/02 - "No, it is not what the party leaders want!" Dear Ren, You wrote: "Dear Donald, You ask, "What does the public want?" And then you say that your...
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Feb 2, 2002 2:02 pm
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Donald In South Australia, a single candidate can have a box above the line. But for the Australian Senate it had to be a group of two or more candidates. ...
02/04/02 - Welcome to the Hare camp Tom: Greetings List members, Tom Ruen wrote: "...this analysis has pulled me back on the neglected Hare quota bandwagon." ...
donald@...
Feb 4, 2002 8:59 am
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Dear STV supporters, I have subject to share for fun. The first (and only) STV voting system I've participated was in the DFL party for electing convention...
You know what, Tom? You've just described what Thomas Hill, the Midlands schoolmaster who invented STV, first did! I recall that STV started in the schoolyard,...
Renato V Aguila
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Feb 5, 2002 2:41 pm
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Dear STV supporters, In honor of Saint Valentine's Day, I propose a marriage between two great families - Hare and Droop. Why? I see that there are two...
Propositions: 1. A candidate with more votes than (votes/(seats+1)) can *never* lose a STV election whether the Droop or Hare quota is used for delectability. ...
I understand where you're getting to, Tom. It's going to be a matter, however, of seeing what its implications would be for the candidates or the voters, and...
Renato V Aguila
renpaul2@...
Feb 8, 2002 1:42 pm
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... Conclusion: your Hare-Droop compromise is not a compromise, it is just Hare. ... The point of surplus transfers is that votes in excess of what a candidate...
Joe, You're right - my compromise is effectively "Hare" without unnecessary eliminations. Recognizing a candidate must eventually be elected with more than...
Dear STV supporters, I've determined a simple example of a *least* proportional election using the Hare quota for a 5 seat election. Very simple! Imagine 2...
Dear STV supporters, I made simulations of a 3-seat election to see how often a minority faction could gain 2 of 3 seats. I imagined 2 factions, each running 2...
02/16/02 - Tom Ruen's studies of small district STV elections: Dear Tom, In your five seat study of Wed 02/13, you do not provide a level playing field for...
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Feb 16, 2002 4:04 pm
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02/16/02 - Re: Tie resolution: Greetings List members, Ted Sowinski wrote: [should we] "a. Resolve ties by lot." Dear Ted, Donald here, Lot or tossing a coin...
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Feb 16, 2002 4:09 pm
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Dear list, I have one more email on Droop and Hare. Maybe I'm done now? I've talked a while to a couple (two) interested coworkers about the quota question and...
Now there's some wisdom. The bad thing about faction-based elimination--or any form of partisan or factional recognition in STV's voting and counting...
Renato V. Aguila
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Feb 19, 2002 2:33 pm
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02/22/02 - `The Wisdom of Ruen': Dear Tom, Renato has labeled your recent thoughts on Droop as wisdom. You should be wary, wisdom is usually reserved for...
donald@...
Feb 22, 2002 12:04 pm
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I am amused by Donald's comment on my calling Tom Ruen's thoughts wisdom. Well, I must say that wisdom is not always reserved for the dead. The great thing...
Renato V. Aguila
renpaul2@...
Feb 22, 2002 2:59 pm
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ALERT ! THIS IS IMPORTANT TO EVERYONE WHO SUPPORTS PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION/ SINGLE TRANSFERABLE VOTE/ INSTANT RUNOFF VOTING Congress is considering three...
02/27/02 - The Policy that connects Droop, Meek, and the Elimination Rule: Dear Ren, Things are kind of quiet on this list at the present time, so I decided to...
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Feb 27, 2002 8:14 am
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I read your letter with some interest. I would concede that the German incident does support your belief that people would rather vote for parties, but it also...
Renato V. Aguila
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Feb 27, 2002 11:44 am
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02/28/02 - Successive Quota Surpluses for STV and IRVing: Dear Tom Ruen, Back on the 26th of January, when I answered your post about `vote splitting', there...
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Feb 28, 2002 3:27 pm
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Hi, Donald-- You have given Tom the impression that I don't approve of your method. Let me offer a clarification. The best way to elect a committee, local...
03/06/02 - You are correct Steve: Dear Steve, You are correct, the fact that Successive Quota Surpluses STV(SE) has this flaw in which "...later preferences...
donald@...
Mar 6, 2002 8:23 am
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Donald What would you recommend for determining the order in an ordered candidate list? In one of the political parties in Australia, I know they select their...
... Exactly the procedure suggested by Steve. Actually, across the Tasman Sea, the Green Party has adopted the exact same procedure for their MMP list. The...
Renato V. Aguila
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Mar 7, 2002 7:00 am
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... For details of the scheme I put forward and the Liberal Democrats (in general) adopted for list elections so far, see my website ...
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Mar 7, 2002 7:43 am
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Hi Steve, When you say 'straight out STV' is monotonic I take it you just mean Meek's method? Also why should single seat IRVing be monotonic? All 'monotonic'...
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