Hi, Donald-- You have given Tom the impression that I don't approve of your method. Let me offer a clarification. The best way to elect a committee, local...
03/06/02 - You are correct Steve: Dear Steve, You are correct, the fact that Successive Quota Surpluses STV(SE) has this flaw in which "...later preferences...
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Donald What would you recommend for determining the order in an ordered candidate list? In one of the political parties in Australia, I know they select their...
... Exactly the procedure suggested by Steve. Actually, across the Tasman Sea, the Green Party has adopted the exact same procedure for their MMP list. The...
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... For details of the scheme I put forward and the Liberal Democrats (in general) adopted for list elections so far, see my website ...
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Hi Steve, When you say 'straight out STV' is monotonic I take it you just mean Meek's method? Also why should single seat IRVing be monotonic? All 'monotonic'...
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03/08/02 - What I would recommend for an OCL: Dear Deane Crabb and List, What I would recommend for determining the order in an Ordered Candidate List is as...
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... The reason my wording is thus is that it is not legally possible to do what you ask. The whole point of an ordered list is that it has to be fixed on ...
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Hi, Richard-- In my rush to blast off a quick response to Donald last Monday, and get out of here (a cybercafe), I used the wrong term. Later preferences...
I almost replied myself recently on the meaning of Monotonicity, but I'm glad Steve set the record straight. Since monotonicity is being mentioned, I'm...
... Approval ballots are neither "single" nor "transferable", so calling it unranked STV is rather inaccurate. Joe ... Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. ...
Joe, Thanks for the comment. I must disagree though. 1. Every voter gets one full vote, split equally among approved choices. 2. A split vote is transferred...
Hi Steve, I dont suppose there are any non-technical accounts of monotonicity? ( I forget whether this is one of the 'reasonable conditions' required in...
Richard Lung
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Richard, I've not exactly been invited to answer, but I decided to try to test my own understanding. I think Monotonicity and Later-no-Harm are two useful (and...
... You'll find an explanation that is about as non-technical as any at: http://www.electionmethods.org/evaluation.htm For more examples see Craig Carey's ANTI...
Can anyone here tell me whether any country or state using STV-PR for public elections has legislation allowing the filling of casual vacancies by re-counting...
Hi, James-- Under NZ STV (from 2004), we will have by-elections, too (at least until most or all local authorities switch to STV), but if the winner of the ...
Dear James, Across the Tasman Sea, the two jurisdictions that use STV-PR for lower house polls (Tasmania and the Australian Capital Territory) and one of the...
Renato V. Aguila
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Hi- I am bothered by the fact that STV will exhaust ballots even if they have ranked a winner. I would like to propose a rule modification that, before a...
Dave, I don't think this relates to the Hare/Droop quota problem at all since the quota affects the results while this count as you say has no effect on ...
... I did experiment, using Meek, with where, say 0.2 of a vote is exhausted, setting the initial value of the vote to 1.25 instead of 1, so that 1 would be...
James I hope you got the details you were after. Re the two methods used in Australia that Ren Aguila referred to, I would support the recount of the quota for...
I am confused by this reply. What happened to one vote, one value? Shouldn't the whole vote stay with one of the elected candidates, and allow a greater...
03/20/02 - Recount to fill Vacancy: Ren wrote: "I understand there are two schools of thought. One school <snip> states that ALL the ballots used in the poll...
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Thankyou to those on and off the list who have thoughtfully written on monotonicity. As already stated, simple English explanations, such as by Tom Ruen, are...
Richard Lung
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Dear STV supporters, On Saturday I was a delegate at the Minnesota DFL convention for Senate District 52, we used a Proportional Representation method called ...
... Rob Richie is the executive director of the Center for Voting and Democracy. Craig Carey is an Anti-IRV and Anti-STV person. I have always felt that Rob...
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Dear Donald, I think it's largely in America (where FPTP is still, with Cambridge, MA the exception, the undisputed champion) and in the one-man world of Craig...
Renato V. Aguila
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Right on, Donald. Steve ... _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger:...
