Hi Everyone, I am certain that somewhere amongst the 400+ plus messages on this site there is something that explains how an election is counted using Meek. If...
... A common objection to STV, especially from Labour people, is that it disadvantages voters whose knowledge of the candidates is limited. This may be a...
rosenstiel@...
Jan 12, 2003 10:16 pm
415
Re the Australian Senate (and other examples in Australia), the system of strict preference control has more to do with trying to get consistency with the...
Hi Everybody, Simon thanks for the copy of Meek's paper. I must confess I found it somewhat heavy going but I did manage to get a 10 vote, 4 candidate, 2 seat...
Hi David and List Members Glad you found Meek helpful. Woodall's paper makes the same point far more clearly; I hope that was helpful too. Simon mounts his...
... Consider 5 candidates with 4 to be elected: There are the following preferences: A 25 B 25 C 25 D 13 E 12 Tot 100 If a quota of 100/4 = 25 is used, is...
01/17/03 - Meek - A Negative Variant of Preference Voting: Dear David Gamble and list members, The following is part of a letter I posted to this list some...
donald@...
Jan 17, 2003 8:10 am
420
Dear Jim and List Members In your illustration as presented, with no second or subsequent preferences expressed, all any candidate has to do is to appear among...
Hi Donald, The important variation in Meek's method is not the quota, but a different way of counting the votes. Meek's method has a feedback mechanism that ...
... Subsequent preferences were irrelevant to the example. If a quota of 1/4 (25) was used, then candidates A, B, and C would have reached quota with 1st...
Hi Everybody The definition of "wasted" that I had in mind when I was writing my piece on quotas was the votes that remained with the runner-up after all seats...
Hi Jim and List Members What you do not take account of is that in a multi-seat election, most voters want more than one candidate to be elected - in a public ...
Hi Jim, Simon and Group, For all party elections or elections where people fight as formal factions I would not advocate any quota other than Droop unless...
Hello again, Another mistake or unstated assumption, this seems to be rather an off day. The example should state that no voter for party A expresses a...
... Consider an election for 4 seats, where one faction has slightly more than 60% of the vote: ABC 99 BCA 98 CAB 94 XYZ 96 ZXY 95 ... 482 A quota of...
Dear Davis and list members, David, you wrote: "My reasons for asking for information on Meek were,that from what I'd previously read, it could in combination...
donald@...
Jan 20, 2003 8:20 am
430
01/21/03 - Re: Wasted votes and quotas: (Opps, I sent this to the wrong list at first, sorry about that.) Greetings Doug and list members, Doug, you wrote:...
donald@...
Jan 21, 2003 12:49 pm
431
Dear Donal and list members What I meant by "under Meek fractions of votes become non-transferrable which under other counting systems would be effective at a...
Greetings David and list members, David, you wrote: "Under a counting system that considered only the votes in the last parcel A1 received for transfer X's...
donald@...
Jan 23, 2003 7:42 am
433
Dear List In the past two weeks I've posted various statements as to the desirability of utilising the maximum number of votes in an STV election by the use of...
Hi, David-- I'm wading through many messages, but no one has so far referred you to message No. 111 at this list (15 Dec 01). Check out the attachments. I ...
01/28/03 - `Wake me when it's over': Greetings David and list members, David, you wrote: "However all counts after count 4 have no effect on who is actually...
donald@...
Jan 28, 2003 9:42 am
436
Dear Steve, Donald and list, Firstly thank you Steve for the location of the attachments- a worked example of Meek was exactly what I was looking for. Donald...
02/03/03 - The David and Simon contest: Dear David and list members, David, you wrote: "The fact that when I tried to use a reduced Hare quota I persistently...
donald@...
Feb 3, 2003 12:49 pm
438
Hi Donald and List Members I have never said that a candidate does not need a full quota in order to be elected. What I have said is that in some...
Hi Donald, Simon and list, Firstly Donald could you provide an example of your "Bottoms Up" system or if one is already posted somewhere tell me where it is. ...
Having problems with message search?
Fill out this form to ensure your group is one of the first to be migrated to the new message search system.
