Hello Group I was most disappointed by Adriane Carr's (Leader BC Green Party) response to the Citizens' Assembly decision to recommend STV so I E-mailed the...
... The Yes Committee is now in formation, and many Citizens Assembly delegates have indicated their intention to take part after the final report has been ...
I have heard that A Carr owes her leadership to a political coup so perhaps she is really working for an other. I do notice the 80% of submissions crap is...
http://www.citizensassembly.bc.ca/public is the site of the citizens assembly. They have a very good "latest news" section to their site. Stv seems to have...
I havnt time to check at the moment. I do have one question though. How do you decide which system of 2 competing ones is better (from the voter getting the...
Richard, What is the rationale? I can't see how it is an improvement. And it looks as though it will allow later preferences to count against earlier ones. Joe...
The only way I know of not allowing later preferences to help or hinder earlier ones is "exclude the lowest", which is the source of most of the perversities...
... You well know, Simon, that the Electoral Reform Society accords very high importance to the notion that later preferences should not affecting earlier...
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Yes I'm with Colin and the ERS on this one. While there may be cases where exclusions seem perverse on one reading, these are, lets remember, exclusions of...
Hallo, I have uploaded a paper in which I argue that today vote management is the most serious problem of STV methods. I propose a new STV method where this ...
Defending Last past the post exclusion, as below message does, is rather like the apologies for First past the post elections. To use a proportional count on...
Well, Brian, to bring experimental science to electoral reform, you hold a citizens assembly on electoral reform. You give them the better part of a year to...
Richard, Hmmm. I don't quite understand you. Are you saying that Plant used my argument (in favour of STV) to reject STV? Do you think Plant would have...
Markus I have read parts of this paper with much interest. Particularly about Vote Management. Here in Australia, members of the Proportional Representation...
Hi all, new to the group, I've been reading some of the past posts and have a question for the collective. As I see, you've already been discussing the...
Joe, Plant attacked STV from its weak point of Last past the post exclusion, ( which I take it you support ) citing an example with no transferable surplus, as...
Brian, the joke was on me ( was experimental science and electoral reform ). I couldnt resist the joke that the Citizens Assembly was the experiment we already...
I have not seen the major partys in Ireland all putting up 5 candidates. They might put up 4 if they expect to win 3 seats or a small party mightput up 2 at...
Thanks, I find that an interesting fact that parties in Ireland don't always offer a full slate in constituencies. In a way, that makes sense. Why split your...
Well, I do have experience of stv! The partys are not going to run a full slate. In stv, they cannot win all the seats on 50 or 60% of the vote. They will...
(the green party convension was in victoria at the weekend). I was too disgusted with their antics to go. I just had a look at the green bc site and after...
Carr's argument against STV will have merit if BC-STV is not constructed properly. Carr's arguments against STV will be legitimate if BC-STV ends up having too...
The CA is designing the system to maximize number of seats per riding. But BC is huge so they will have a couple of 2 seaters. MMP isnt better because it...
"STV in Malta and Ireland has often produced results that have not been proportional." Proportional according to what? The point of STV is that votes are...
... I agree, STV is infinitely better then FPTP. I'll be voting for STV and I hope all of BC votes for STV. But I still think that MMP would have been better....
... been ... whose ... party ... STV does an excellent job choosing the candidates that people want representing them in their local onstituencies. But it does...
Well, the main problem is not one of comparing mmp and stv. It is one of confusion. MMP will not be on the ballot papers. YOu should (out of basic self...
