I'm confused since DST change didn't work. It is set for time zone
USA/Mountain. I don't see any settings related to daylight savings, so
I assumed it would set my clock back an hour on 10-31 02:00.

1.  I booted my computer Monday 11-01, and saw that it was not set
back, i.e. it showed 9am instead of 8am. I tried setting time
backwards to 01:59 Sun morning. That time, it actually worked, rolling
over to 01:00.

2.  I log in 11-02 about 08:00 and see that it says the time is about
3am. I shut down X, and in a shell type current time something like
`date -u 110210452004`. Time set is echoed properly to conslole. I
reboot, and time as gone back to about 03:30.

3.  This time I use "Adjust Date & Time" menu option on the KDE Panel
clock. I reboot, and now it is keeping proper time.

Uh, does anybody else have trouble like this, or know what's wrong?
      --jeffs

Not quite. The post mentions inet access through a usb modem on one of
the XP machines (or could it be on the Linux?)

If the usb modem doesn't work in Linux, then you would have to set up
the winXP to share the connection, and perhaps setup the Linux as a
DHCP client. The hardest part is translating terminology. I don't know
what XP will call it, maybe "share my internet".        --jeffs


--- In suselinuxusers@yahoogroups.com, Scott Rineer <srineer@p...> wrote:

> A better option would be to use the Ethernet connect of your cable modem
> and go get a cheap router (netgear, d-link, linksys, etc...)  that way
> if you have issues with the "server" it will not effect the other PC.
>
>
>
> --
> Scott R. Rineer M.C.S.A., M.C.S.E
> Network Administrator
> STABLER COMPANIES INC.
> 635 Lucknow Road
> Harrisburg, PA, USA 17110
> Phone (717) 236-9307 X 248
> Mobile (717) 571-9369
> Fax (717) 236-1281
> srineer@s...
> http://www.stablercompaniesinc.com
> Registered Linux User #367666

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 18:20:29 -0000
Jefferson wrote:

> --- In suselinuxusers@yahoogroups.com, Scott Rineer <srineer@p...>
> wrote:
>
> > A better option would be to use the Ethernet connect of your cable
> > modem and go get a cheap router (netgear, d-link, linksys, etc...)
> > that way if you have issues with the "server" it will not effect the
> > other PC.
> >
>
> Not quite. The post mentions inet access through a usb modem on one of
> the XP machines (or could it be on the Linux?)
>
> If the usb modem doesn't work in Linux, then you would have to set up
> the winXP to share the connection, and perhaps setup the Linux as a
> DHCP client. The hardest part is translating terminology. I don't know
> what XP will call it, maybe "share my internet".        --jeffs
>

(top-posting corrected)

With w2k it was "Internet connection sharing", to be found on, I
believe, "advanced" register card of the Internet connection TCP/IP
setting. It will assign the NIC the hard-coded address of 192.168.0.1
and run a DHCP server on it to assign addresses to clients.

Having said that: do yourself a favour and set the Linux box up as the
NAT/masquerade router and firewall for your network. It's been long
since I did it with SuSE (7.1), but I remember it was only a matter of
changing a variable from "no" to "yes" in the rc.conf (which you won't
find on newer versions of SuSE, it has been split into many files in, if
my informations are correct, in /etc/sysconfig directory. The usb modem
should be supported as well.

I wouldn't let a windows machine near internet, unless protected by a
good firewall, dropping all incomming connections and permitting only
outgoing port 80, 443 and perhaps 21.

Cheers

--
Horror Vacui

Registered Linux user #257714

Go get yourself... counted: http://counter.li.org/
- and keep following the GNU.

In SuSE 8.x and 9.x there is a package called smpppd-web used to allow other
computers in the network to access  different Providers/Connections to
Internet. Depending on the SuSE version you need to either adjust the perl
script conatained in package or (in SuSE 9.1) just to disable Apache2 perl
module as I recall.

This way you may use your Linux box as a gateway/firewall to internet and
still be able to connect to Internet from either WinXP or other Linux
Machines - I have a similar configuration in my home network where my wife is
using WinXP machine and there are two more Linux boxes used by me of which
one is gateway/firewall.

If any further info is nedeed I'll be glad to help

Regards,

--
Bratislav Velickovic
DBA/DB/WEB Designer
www.velickovic.net

The linux one has the modem usb and works fine. the winxp is the other computer
that has to be served with the internet conexion and the file server...
but, i must say that i had no time to try what you told me in the other
messages, but ill study that in this week so far.
thank you all,
David Galindo
cheers.
..............................


Not quite. The post mentions inet access through a usb modem on one of
the XP machines (or could it be on the Linux?)

If the usb modem doesn't work in Linux, then you would have to set up
the winXP to share the connection, and perhaps setup the Linux as a
DHCP client. The hardest part is translating terminology. I don't know
what XP will call it, maybe "share my internet".        --jeffs


--- In suselinuxusers@yahoogroups.com, Scott Rineer <srineer@p...> wrote:

> A better option would be to use the Ethernet connect of your cable modem
> and go get a cheap router (netgear, d-link, linksys, etc...)  that way
> if you have issues with the "server" it will not effect the other PC.
>
>
>
> --
> Scott R. Rineer M.C.S.A., M.C.S.E
> Network Administrator
> STABLER COMPANIES INC.
> 635 Lucknow Road
> Harrisburg, PA, USA 17110
> Phone (717) 236-9307 X 248
> Mobile (717) 571-9369
> Fax (717) 236-1281
> srineer@s...
> http://www.stablercompaniesinc.com
> Registered Linux User #367666




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thank you for the post, i really have the same problem but with my parents...
the fact is that they want to keep using winxp and i want to change and try
linux, becouse of its goodness. could you explain to me, just step to step how
to share the internet conexion and the file server?
and let me thank you one more time if i get to be quite slow undestanding these
things, i am an advanced user in win (since 3.1, so far!), but this is my first
linux...

bye
David Galindo
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   Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 11:54 PM
   Subject: Re: [SUSE Linux Users] suse--windowsxp--samba...


   In SuSE 8.x and 9.x there is a package called smpppd-web used to allow other
   computers in the network to access  different Providers/Connections to
   Internet. Depending on the SuSE version you need to either adjust the perl
   script conatained in package or (in SuSE 9.1) just to disable Apache2 perl
   module as I recall.

   This way you may use your Linux box as a gateway/firewall to internet and
   still be able to connect to Internet from either WinXP or other Linux
   Machines - I have a similar configuration in my home network where my wife is
   using WinXP machine and there are two more Linux boxes used by me of which
   one is gateway/firewall.

   If any further info is nedeed I'll be glad to help

   Regards,

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   www.velickovic.net


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Jefferson Smith wrote:
>
> I'm confused since DST change didn't work. It is set for time zone
> USA/Mountain. I don't see any settings related to daylight savings, so
> I assumed it would set my clock back an hour on 10-31 02:00.
>

Was your computer ON at that time?

> 1.  I booted my computer Monday 11-01, and saw that it was not set
> back, i.e. it showed 9am instead of 8am. I tried setting time
> backwards to 01:59 Sun morning. That time, it actually worked, rolling
> over to 01:00.
>
> 2.  I log in 11-02 about 08:00 and see that it says the time is about
> 3am. I shut down X, and in a shell type current time something like
> `date -u 110210452004`. Time set is echoed properly to conslole. I
> reboot, and time as gone back to about 03:30.
>
> 3.  This time I use "Adjust Date & Time" menu option on the KDE Panel
> clock. I reboot, and now it is keeping proper time.
>
> Uh, does anybody else have trouble like this, or know what's wrong?
>      --jeffs

use xntp and be done with it.

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On Wednesday 3. November 2004. 10:12, David Galindo Méndez wrote:
>  thank you for the post, i really have the same problem but with my
> parents... the fact is that they want to keep using winxp and i want to
> change and try linux, becouse of its goodness. could you explain to me,
> just step to step how to share the internet conexion and the file server?
> and let me thank you one more time if i get to be quite slow undestanding
> these things, i am an advanced user in win (since 3.1, so far!), but this
> is my first linux...
>
>  bye
>  David Galindo
>    ----- Original Message -----
>    From: Bratislav Velickovic
>    To: suselinuxusers@yahoogroups.com
>    Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 11:54 PM
>    Subject: Re: [SUSE Linux Users] suse--windowsxp--samba...
>

Start YaST/Install Software and search for package smpppd-web - check where it
installs it's files so that you may find appropriate information on how to
set it up. Be sure to check that there is no Apache2 mod-perl module
installed since it conflicts with smpppd-web.

After that you just need to open http://localhost/internet/smpppd-web.pl (not
sure on this one I'll check my home setup once I get there) and voila! there
you have all smpppd network inetrfaces and providers to choose from and
connect to internet. If your parents wish to connect from WinXP instead of
using localhost they would type in linux box IP address (recomended for
compatibility is 192.168.0.1).



--
Bratislav Velickovic
www.velickovic.net

Computer was off at the time. You're right about xntp. It happened
again, the next time I left it off overnight. Sounds like the battery
or hardware at least, but I haven't verified it. Sounds like xntp
would avoid the need for the hardware keeping time between boots (?)
        Thanks,   --jeffs


--- In suselinuxusers@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Kulkis <akulkis@H...> wrote:
> Jefferson Smith wrote:
> >
> > I'm confused since DST change didn't work. It is set for time zone
> > USA/Mountain. I don't see any settings related to daylight savings, so
> > I assumed it would set my clock back an hour on 10-31 02:00.
> >
>
> Was your computer ON at that time?
>
> > 1.  I booted my computer Monday 11-01, and saw that it was not set
> > back, i.e. it showed 9am instead of 8am. I tried setting time
> > backwards to 01:59 Sun morning. That time, it actually worked, rolling
> > over to 01:00.
> >
> > 2.  I log in 11-02 about 08:00 and see that it says the time is about
> > 3am. I shut down X, and in a shell type current time something like
> > `date -u 110210452004`. Time set is echoed properly to conslole. I
> > reboot, and time as gone back to about 03:30.
> >
> > 3.  This time I use "Adjust Date & Time" menu option on the KDE Panel
> > clock. I reboot, and now it is keeping proper time.
> >
> > Uh, does anybody else have trouble like this, or know what's wrong?
> >      --jeffs
>
> use xntp and be done with it.

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Jefferson Smith wrote:
>
> Computer was off at the time. You're right about xntp. It happened
> again, the next time I left it off overnight. Sounds like the battery
> or hardware at least, but I haven't verified it. Sounds like xntp
> would avoid the need for the hardware keeping time between boots (?)
>        Thanks,   --jeffs

Here's a working /etc/ntp.conf file
I have 12 level-2 servers and 1 level-3 server

Make sure you read through it.
# comments ending in (ark) were inserted by me.
Notice that I specify some log files to be in /var/log/ntp

You'll want to either edit that, or do this

$ su
password:
# mkdir /var/log/ntp
# exit
$







################################################################################
## /etc/ntp.conf
##
## Sample NTP configuration file.
## See package 'xntp-doc' for documentation, Mini-HOWTO and FAQ.
## Copyright (c) 1998 S.u.S.E. GmbH Fuerth, Germany.
##
## Author: Michael Andres,  <ma@...>
##
################################################################################
#
# Sat Feb 15 00:00:58 EST 2003
# added outside servers

##
## Radio and modem clocks by convention have addresses in the
## form 127.127.t.u, where t is the clock type and u is a unit
## number in the range 0-3.
##
## Most of these clocks require support in the form of a
## serial port or special bus peripheral. The particular
## device is normally specified by adding a soft link
## /dev/device-u to the particular hardware device involved,
## where u correspond to the unit number above.
##
## Generic DCF77 clock on serial port (Conrad DCF77)
## Address:     127.127.8.u
## Serial Port: /dev/refclock-u
##
## (create soft link /dev/refclock-0 to the particular ttyS?)
##
# server 127.127.8.0 mode 5 prefer

##
## Undisciplined Local Clock. This is a fake driver intended for backup
## and when no outside source of synchronized time is available.
##

server 127.127.1.0              # local clock (LCL)
fudge  127.127.1.0 stratum 10   # LCL is unsynchronized

##
## Outside source of synchronized time
##
## server xx.xx.xx.xx           # IP address of server

# these are all publicly-accessible ntp servers, no keys required,
# nor any courtesy e-mail requested.
#
# stratum 2 servers (ark)
server dr-zaius.cs.wisc.edu     burst   minpoll 6 maxpoll 12
server ceasar.cs.wisc.edu       burst   minpoll 6 maxpoll 12
server otc2.psu.edu             burst   minpoll 6 maxpoll 12
server louie.udel.edu           burst   minpoll 6 maxpoll 12
server harbor.ecn.purdue.edu    burst   minpoll 6 maxpoll 12
server filbert.cc.columbia.edu  burst   minpoll 6 maxpoll 12
server ntp-0.gw.uiuc.edu.       burst   minpoll 6 maxpoll 12
server ntp-1.gw.uiuc.edu        burst   minpoll 6 maxpoll 12
server ntp-2.gw.uiuc.edu        burst   minpoll 6 maxpoll 12
server cudns.cit.cornell.edu    burst   minpoll 6 maxpoll 12
server seismo.cmr.gov.          burst   minpoll 6 maxpoll 12
server 19er.cc.vt.edu8          burst   minpoll 6 maxpoll 12
# stratum 3 servers (ark)
server gilbreth.ecn.purdue.edu  burst   minpoll 6 maxpoll 12

##
## Miscellaneous stuff
##

driftfile /var/lib/ntp/ntp.drift # path for drift file

logfile   /var/log/ntp          # alternate log file
# logconfig =syncstatus + sysevents
logconfig =all

statsdir /var/log/xntp/     # directory for statistics files
filegen peerstats       file peerstats  type day enable
filegen loopstats       file loopstats  type day enable
filegen clockstats      file clockstats type day enable
filegen rawstats        file rawstats   type day enable

#
# Authentication stuff
#
# keys /etc/ntp.keys            # path for keys file
# trustedkey 1 2 3 4 5 6 14 15  # define trusted keys
# requestkey 15                 # key (7) for accessing server variables
# controlkey 15                 # key (6) for accessing server variables





>
>
> --- In suselinuxusers@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Kulkis <akulkis@H...> wrote:
>
>>Jefferson Smith wrote:
>>
>>>I'm confused since DST change didn't work. It is set for time zone
>>>USA/Mountain. I don't see any settings related to daylight savings, so
>>>I assumed it would set my clock back an hour on 10-31 02:00.
>>>
>>
>>Was your computer ON at that time?
>>
>>
>>>1.  I booted my computer Monday 11-01, and saw that it was not set
>>>back, i.e. it showed 9am instead of 8am. I tried setting time
>>>backwards to 01:59 Sun morning. That time, it actually worked, rolling
>>>over to 01:00.
>>>
>>>2.  I log in 11-02 about 08:00 and see that it says the time is about
>>>3am. I shut down X, and in a shell type current time something like
>>>`date -u 110210452004`. Time set is echoed properly to conslole. I
>>>reboot, and time as gone back to about 03:30.
>>>
>>>3.  This time I use "Adjust Date & Time" menu option on the KDE Panel
>>>clock. I reboot, and now it is keeping proper time.
>>>
>>>Uh, does anybody else have trouble like this, or know what's wrong?
>>>     --jeffs
>>
>>use xntp and be done with it.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Alright, I got the ntp updates going, here's the log from this morning:
  5 Nov 07:33:56 ntpd[5447]: synchronized to LOCAL(0), stratum 10
  5 Nov 07:33:56 ntpd[5447]: kernel time sync disabled 0041
  5 Nov 07:34:59 ntpd[5447]: kernel time sync enabled 0001

Now, a strange thing I found. I want to know if I just don't have
things configured right, or what. In the dialog "Adjust Date &
Time..." from the Clock menu (in the corner of the taskbar), I had
changed the setting to store time in UTC. This seems to not work
right. It shows alright until I start the computer the next day, Then
I think it is displaying UTC on the clock instead of the time zone I
have selected. This happened before and after I enabled the ntp
client. I changed back to set hwclock as local time, and it comes up
correct in the morning.


--- In suselinuxusers@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Kulkis <akulkis@H...> wrote:
> Jefferson Smith wrote:
> >
> > Computer was off at the time. You're right about xntp. It happened
> > again, the next time I left it off overnight. Sounds like the battery
> > or hardware at least, but I haven't verified it. Sounds like xntp
> > would avoid the need for the hardware keeping time between boots (?)
> >        Thanks,   --jeffs
>
> Here's a working /etc/ntp.conf file
> I have 12 level-2 servers and 1 level-3 server
>
> Make sure you read through it.
> # comments ending in (ark) were inserted by me.
> Notice that I specify some log files to be in /var/log/ntp
>
> You'll want to either edit that, or do this
>
> $ su
> password:
> # mkdir /var/log/ntp
> # exit
> $
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
################################################################################
> ## /etc/ntp.conf
> ##
> ## Sample NTP configuration file.
> ## See package 'xntp-doc' for documentation, Mini-HOWTO and FAQ.
> ## Copyright (c) 1998 S.u.S.E. GmbH Fuerth, Germany.
> ##
> ## Author: Michael Andres,  <ma@s...>
> ##
>
################################################################################
> #
> # Sat Feb 15 00:00:58 EST 2003
> # added outside servers
>
> ##
> ## Radio and modem clocks by convention have addresses in the
> ## form 127.127.t.u, where t is the clock type and u is a unit
> ## number in the range 0-3.
> ##
> ## Most of these clocks require support in the form of a
> ## serial port or special bus peripheral. The particular
> ## device is normally specified by adding a soft link
> ## /dev/device-u to the particular hardware device involved,
> ## where u correspond to the unit number above.
> ##
> ## Generic DCF77 clock on serial port (Conrad DCF77)
> ## Address:     127.127.8.u
> ## Serial Port: /dev/refclock-u
> ##
> ## (create soft link /dev/refclock-0 to the particular ttyS?)
> ##
> # server 127.127.8.0 mode 5 prefer
>
> ##
> ## Undisciplined Local Clock. This is a fake driver intended for backup
> ## and when no outside source of synchronized time is available.
> ##
>
> server 127.127.1.0              # local clock (LCL)
> fudge  127.127.1.0 stratum 10   # LCL is unsynchronized
>
> ##
> ## Outside source of synchronized time
> ##
> ## server xx.xx.xx.xx           # IP address of server
>
> # these are all publicly-accessible ntp servers, no keys required,
> # nor any courtesy e-mail requested.
> #
> # stratum 2 servers (ark)
> server dr-zaius.cs.wisc.edu     burst   minpoll 6 maxpoll 12
> server ceasar.cs.wisc.edu       burst   minpoll 6 maxpoll 12
> server otc2.psu.edu             burst   minpoll 6 maxpoll 12
> server louie.udel.edu           burst   minpoll 6 maxpoll 12
> server harbor.ecn.purdue.edu    burst   minpoll 6 maxpoll 12
> server filbert.cc.columbia.edu  burst   minpoll 6 maxpoll 12
> server ntp-0.gw.uiuc.edu.       burst   minpoll 6 maxpoll 12
> server ntp-1.gw.uiuc.edu        burst   minpoll 6 maxpoll 12
> server ntp-2.gw.uiuc.edu        burst   minpoll 6 maxpoll 12
> server cudns.cit.cornell.edu    burst   minpoll 6 maxpoll 12
> server seismo.cmr.gov.          burst   minpoll 6 maxpoll 12
> server 19er.cc.vt.edu8          burst   minpoll 6 maxpoll 12
> # stratum 3 servers (ark)
> server gilbreth.ecn.purdue.edu  burst   minpoll 6 maxpoll 12
>
> ##
> ## Miscellaneous stuff
> ##
>
> driftfile /var/lib/ntp/ntp.drift # path for drift file
>
> logfile   /var/log/ntp          # alternate log file
> # logconfig =syncstatus + sysevents
> logconfig =all
>
> statsdir /var/log/xntp/     # directory for statistics files
> filegen peerstats       file peerstats  type day enable
> filegen loopstats       file loopstats  type day enable
> filegen clockstats      file clockstats type day enable
> filegen rawstats        file rawstats   type day enable
>
> #
> # Authentication stuff
> #
> # keys /etc/ntp.keys            # path for keys file
> # trustedkey 1 2 3 4 5 6 14 15  # define trusted keys
> # requestkey 15                 # key (7) for accessing server variables
> # controlkey 15                 # key (6) for accessing server variables
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > --- In suselinuxusers@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Kulkis <akulkis@H...>
wrote:
> >
> >>Jefferson Smith wrote:
> >>
> >>>I'm confused since DST change didn't work. It is set for time zone
> >>>USA/Mountain. I don't see any settings related to daylight
savings, so
> >>>I assumed it would set my clock back an hour on 10-31 02:00.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Was your computer ON at that time?
> >>
> >>
> >>>1.  I booted my computer Monday 11-01, and saw that it was not set
> >>>back, i.e. it showed 9am instead of 8am. I tried setting time
> >>>backwards to 01:59 Sun morning. That time, it actually worked,
rolling
> >>>over to 01:00.
> >>>
> >>>2.  I log in 11-02 about 08:00 and see that it says the time is about
> >>>3am. I shut down X, and in a shell type current time something like
> >>>`date -u 110210452004`. Time set is echoed properly to conslole. I
> >>>reboot, and time as gone back to about 03:30.
> >>>
> >>>3.  This time I use "Adjust Date & Time" menu option on the KDE Panel
> >>>clock. I reboot, and now it is keeping proper time.
> >>>
> >>>Uh, does anybody else have trouble like this, or know what's wrong?
> >>>     --jeffs
> >>
> >>use xntp and be done with it.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

On Saturday 06 November 2004 07:59, Jefferson Smith wrote:
>  Alright, I got the ntp updates going, here's the log from this morning:
>  5 Nov 07:33:56 ntpd[5447]: synchronized to LOCAL(0), stratum 10
>  5 Nov 07:33:56 ntpd[5447]: kernel time sync disabled 0041
>  5 Nov 07:34:59 ntpd[5447]: kernel time sync enabled 0001
>
>  Now, a strange thing I found. I want to know if I just don't have
>  things configured right, or what. In the dialog "Adjust Date &
>  Time..." from the Clock menu (in the corner of the taskbar), I had
>  changed the setting to store time in UTC. This seems to not work
>  right. It shows alright until I start the computer the next day,
I had a similar thing with keyboard map, it was wrong after every boot and
changes weren't saved for some reason (I think Yast has problems)
I've reloaded the whole   thing and it's OK now!!
>  Then
>  I think it is displaying UTC on the clock instead of the time zone I
>  have selected. This happened before and after I enabled the ntp
>  client. I changed back to set hwclock as local time, and it comes up
>  correct in the morning.
>
>  --- In suselinuxusers@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Kulkis <akulkis@H...> wrote:
>  > Jefferson Smith wrote:
>  > > Computer was off at the time. You're right about xntp. It happened
>  > > again, the next time I left it off overnight. Sounds like the battery
>  > > or hardware at least, but I haven't verified it. Sounds like xntp
>  > > would avoid the need for the hardware keeping time between boots (?)
>  > >        Thanks,   --jeffs
>  >
>  > Here's a working /etc/ntp.conf file
>  > I have 12 level-2 servers and 1 level-3 server
>  >
>  > Make sure you read through it.
>  > # comments ending in (ark) were inserted by me.
>  > Notice that I specify some log files to be in /var/log/ntp
>  >
>  > You'll want to either edit that, or do this
>  >
>  > $ su
>  > password:
>  > # mkdir /var/log/ntp
>  > # exit
>  > $
>
>
> ###########################################################################
>#####
>
>  > ## /etc/ntp.conf
>  > ##
>  > ## Sample NTP configuration file.
>  > ## See package 'xntp-doc' for documentation, Mini-HOWTO and FAQ.
>  > ## Copyright (c) 1998 S.u.S.E. GmbH Fuerth, Germany.
>  > ##
>  > ## Author: Michael Andres,  <ma@s...>
>  > ##
>
>
> ###########################################################################
>#####
>
>  > #
>  > # Sat Feb 15 00:00:58 EST 2003
>  > # added outside servers
>  >
>  > ##
>  > ## Radio and modem clocks by convention have addresses in the
>  > ## form 127.127.t.u, where t is the clock type and u is a unit
>  > ## number in the range 0-3.
>  > ##
>  > ## Most of these clocks require support in the form of a
>  > ## serial port or special bus peripheral. The particular
>  > ## device is normally specified by adding a soft link
>  > ## /dev/device-u to the particular hardware device involved,
>  > ## where u correspond to the unit number above.
>  > ##
>  > ## Generic DCF77 clock on serial port (Conrad DCF77)
>  > ## Address:     127.127.8.u
>  > ## Serial Port: /dev/refclock-u
>  > ##
>  > ## (create soft link /dev/refclock-0 to the particular ttyS?)
>  > ##
>  > # server 127.127.8.0 mode 5 prefer
>  >
>  > ##
>  > ## Undisciplined Local Clock. This is a fake driver intended for backup
>  > ## and when no outside source of synchronized time is available.
>  > ##
>  >
>  > server 127.127.1.0              # local clock (LCL)
>  > fudge  127.127.1.0 stratum 10   # LCL is unsynchronized
>  >
>  > ##
>  > ## Outside source of synchronized time
>  > ##
>  > ## server xx.xx.xx.xx           # IP address of server
>  >
>  > # these are all publicly-accessible ntp servers, no keys required,
>  > # nor any courtesy e-mail requested.
>  > #
>  > # stratum 2 servers (ark)
>  > server dr-zaius.cs.wisc.edu     burst   minpoll 6 maxpoll 12
>  > server ceasar.cs.wisc.edu       burst   minpoll 6 maxpoll 12
>  > server otc2.psu.edu             burst   minpoll 6 maxpoll 12
>  > server louie.udel.edu           burst   minpoll 6 maxpoll 12
>  > server harbor.ecn.purdue.edu    burst   minpoll 6 maxpoll 12
>  > server filbert.cc.columbia.edu  burst   minpoll 6 maxpoll 12
>  > server ntp-0.gw.uiuc.edu.       burst   minpoll 6 maxpoll 12
>  > server ntp-1.gw.uiuc.edu        burst   minpoll 6 maxpoll 12
>  > server ntp-2.gw.uiuc.edu        burst   minpoll 6 maxpoll 12
>  > server cudns.cit.cornell.edu    burst   minpoll 6 maxpoll 12
>  > server seismo.cmr.gov.          burst   minpoll 6 maxpoll 12
>  > server 19er.cc.vt.edu8          burst   minpoll 6 maxpoll 12
>  > # stratum 3 servers (ark)
>  > server gilbreth.ecn.purdue.edu  burst   minpoll 6 maxpoll 12
>  >
>  > ##
>  > ## Miscellaneous stuff
>  > ##
>  >
>  > driftfile /var/lib/ntp/ntp.drift # path for drift file
>  >
>  > logfile   /var/log/ntp          # alternate log file
>  > # logconfig =syncstatus + sysevents
>  > logconfig =all
>  >
>  > statsdir /var/log/xntp/     # directory for statistics files
>  > filegen peerstats       file peerstats  type day enable
>  > filegen loopstats       file loopstats  type day enable
>  > filegen clockstats      file clockstats type day enable
>  > filegen rawstats        file rawstats   type day enable
>  >
>  > #
>  > # Authentication stuff
>  > #
>  > # keys /etc/ntp.keys            # path for keys file
>  > # trustedkey 1 2 3 4 5 6 14 15  # define trusted keys
>  > # requestkey 15                 # key (7) for accessing server variables
>  > # controlkey 15                 # key (6) for accessing server variables
>  >
>  > > --- In suselinuxusers@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Kulkis <akulkis@H...>
>
>  wrote:
>  > >>Jefferson Smith wrote:
>  > >>>I'm confused since DST change didn't work. It is set for time zone
>  > >>>USA/Mountain. I don't see any settings related to daylight
>
>  savings, so
>
>  > >>>I assumed it would set my clock back an hour on 10-31 02:00.
>  > >>
>  > >>Was your computer ON at that time?
>  > >>
>  > >>>1.  I booted my computer Monday 11-01, and saw that it was not set
>  > >>>back, i.e. it showed 9am instead of 8am. I tried setting time
>  > >>>backwards to 01:59 Sun morning. That time, it actually worked,
>
>  rolling
>
>  > >>>over to 01:00.
>  > >>>
>  > >>>2.  I log in 11-02 about 08:00 and see that it says the time is about
>  > >>>3am. I shut down X, and in a shell type current time something like
>  > >>>`date -u 110210452004`. Time set is echoed properly to conslole. I
>  > >>>reboot, and time as gone back to about 03:30.
>  > >>>
>  > >>>3.  This time I use "Adjust Date & Time" menu option on the KDE Panel
>  > >>>clock. I reboot, and now it is keeping proper time.
>  > >>>
>  > >>>Uh, does anybody else have trouble like this, or know what's wrong? 
>  > >>>     --jeffs
>  > >>
>  > >>use xntp and be done with it.
>  > >
>  > > 
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Jefferson Smith wrote:
>
> Alright, I got the ntp updates going, here's the log from this morning:
>  5 Nov 07:33:56 ntpd[5447]: synchronized to LOCAL(0), stratum 10
>  5 Nov 07:33:56 ntpd[5447]: kernel time sync disabled 0041
>  5 Nov 07:34:59 ntpd[5447]: kernel time sync enabled 0001
>
> Now, a strange thing I found. I want to know if I just don't have
> things configured right, or what. In the dialog "Adjust Date &
> Time..." from the Clock menu (in the corner of the taskbar), I had
> changed the setting to store time in UTC. This seems to not work
> right. It shows alright until I start the computer the next day, Then
> I think it is displaying UTC on the clock instead of the time zone I
> have selected. This happened before and after I enabled the ntp
> client. I changed back to set hwclock as local time, and it comes up
> correct in the morning.

Check to see if your motherboard has a BIOS setting which
plays a part in this.


>
>
> --- In suselinuxusers@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Kulkis <akulkis@H...> wrote:
>
>>Jefferson Smith wrote:
>>
>>>Computer was off at the time. You're right about xntp. It happened
>>>again, the next time I left it off overnight. Sounds like the battery
>>>or hardware at least, but I haven't verified it. Sounds like xntp
>>>would avoid the need for the hardware keeping time between boots (?)
>>>       Thanks,   --jeffs
>>
>>Here's a working /etc/ntp.conf file
>>I have 12 level-2 servers and 1 level-3 server
>>
>>Make sure you read through it.
>># comments ending in (ark) were inserted by me.
>>Notice that I specify some log files to be in /var/log/ntp
>>
>>You'll want to either edit that, or do this
>>
>>$ su
>>password:
>># mkdir /var/log/ntp
>># exit
>>$
>>
>>
>>  < sample /etc/ntp.conf file snipped>

leon wrote:
> On Saturday 06 November 2004 07:59, Jefferson Smith wrote:
>
>> Alright, I got the ntp updates going, here's the log from this morning:
>> 5 Nov 07:33:56 ntpd[5447]: synchronized to LOCAL(0), stratum 10
>> 5 Nov 07:33:56 ntpd[5447]: kernel time sync disabled 0041
>> 5 Nov 07:34:59 ntpd[5447]: kernel time sync enabled 0001
>>
>> Now, a strange thing I found. I want to know if I just don't have
>> things configured right, or what. In the dialog "Adjust Date &
>> Time..." from the Clock menu (in the corner of the taskbar), I had
>> changed the setting to store time in UTC. This seems to not work
>> right. It shows alright until I start the computer the next day,
>
> I had a similar thing with keyboard map, it was wrong after every boot and
> changes weren't saved for some reason (I think Yast has problems)
> I've reloaded the whole   thing and it's OK now!!
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This isn't windows, dude.
Just change the configuration and get on with your life.

I can't think of any settings in BIOS pertaining to which time zone.
Any keywords to look for? Why would BIOS care which timezone the clock
is set for?           --jeffs

P.S. True nobody should have to reload Linux. It may be easy to say
"change the settings and get on with life", but what settings?


--- In suselinuxusers@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Kulkis <akulkis@H...> wrote:
> Jefferson Smith wrote:
> >
> > Alright, I got the ntp updates going, here's the log from this
morning:
> >  5 Nov 07:33:56 ntpd[5447]: synchronized to LOCAL(0), stratum 10
> >  5 Nov 07:33:56 ntpd[5447]: kernel time sync disabled 0041
> >  5 Nov 07:34:59 ntpd[5447]: kernel time sync enabled 0001
> >
> > Now, a strange thing I found. I want to know if I just don't have
> > things configured right, or what. In the dialog "Adjust Date &
> > Time..." from the Clock menu (in the corner of the taskbar), I had
> > changed the setting to store time in UTC. This seems to not work
> > right. It shows alright until I start the computer the next day, Then
> > I think it is displaying UTC on the clock instead of the time zone I
> > have selected. This happened before and after I enabled the ntp
> > client. I changed back to set hwclock as local time, and it comes up
> > correct in the morning.
>
> Check to see if your motherboard has a BIOS setting which
> plays a part in this.
>
>
> >
> >
> > --- In suselinuxusers@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Kulkis <akulkis@H...>
wrote:
> >
> >>Jefferson Smith wrote:
> >>
> >>>Computer was off at the time. You're right about xntp. It happened
> >>>again, the next time I left it off overnight. Sounds like the battery
> >>>or hardware at least, but I haven't verified it. Sounds like xntp
> >>>would avoid the need for the hardware keeping time between boots (?)
> >>>       Thanks,   --jeffs
> >>
> >>Here's a working /etc/ntp.conf file
> >>I have 12 level-2 servers and 1 level-3 server
> >>
> >>Make sure you read through it.
> >># comments ending in (ark) were inserted by me.
> >>Notice that I specify some log files to be in /var/log/ntp
> >>
> >>You'll want to either edit that, or do this
> >>
> >>$ su
> >>password:
> >># mkdir /var/log/ntp
> >># exit
> >>$
> >>
> >>
> >>  < sample /etc/ntp.conf file snipped>

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On Saturday 06 November 2004 09:43, Jefferson Smith wrote:
>  I can't think of any settings in BIOS pertaining to which time zone.
>  Any keywords to look for? Why would BIOS care which timezone the clock
>  is set for?           --jeffs
>
>  P.S. True nobody should have to reload Linux. It may be easy to say
>  "change the settings and get on with life", but what settings?
Change to Mandrake, the help is friendlier!!
>
>  --- In suselinuxusers@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Kulkis <akulkis@H...> wrote:
>  > Jefferson Smith wrote:
>  > > Alright, I got the ntp updates going, here's the log from this
>
>  morning:
>  > >  5 Nov 07:33:56 ntpd[5447]: synchronized to LOCAL(0), stratum 10
>  > >  5 Nov 07:33:56 ntpd[5447]: kernel time sync disabled 0041
>  > >  5 Nov 07:34:59 ntpd[5447]: kernel time sync enabled 0001
>  > >
>  > > Now, a strange thing I found. I want to know if I just don't have
>  > > things configured right, or what. In the dialog "Adjust Date &
>  > > Time..." from the Clock menu (in the corner of the taskbar), I had
>  > > changed the setting to store time in UTC. This seems to not work
>  > > right. It shows alright until I start the computer the next day, Then
>  > > I think it is displaying UTC on the clock instead of the time zone I
>  > > have selected. This happened before and after I enabled the ntp
>  > > client. I changed back to set hwclock as local time, and it comes up
>  > > correct in the morning.
>  >
>  > Check to see if your motherboard has a BIOS setting which
>  > plays a part in this.
>  >
>  > > --- In suselinuxusers@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Kulkis <akulkis@H...>
>
>  wrote:
>  > >>Jefferson Smith wrote:
>  > >>>Computer was off at the time. You're right about xntp. It happened
>  > >>>again, the next time I left it off overnight. Sounds like the battery
>  > >>>or hardware at least, but I haven't verified it. Sounds like xntp
>  > >>>would avoid the need for the hardware keeping time between boots (?)
>  > >>>       Thanks,   --jeffs
>  > >>
>  > >>Here's a working /etc/ntp.conf file
>  > >>I have 12 level-2 servers and 1 level-3 server
>  > >>
>  > >>Make sure you read through it.
>  > >># comments ending in (ark) were inserted by me.
>  > >>Notice that I specify some log files to be in /var/log/ntp
>  > >>
>  > >>You'll want to either edit that, or do this
>  > >>
>  > >>$ su
>  > >>password:
>  > >># mkdir /var/log/ntp
>  > >># exit
>  > >>$
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >>  < sample /etc/ntp.conf file snipped>
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Jefferson Smith wrote:
>
> I can't think of any settings in BIOS pertaining to which time zone.
> Any keywords to look for? Why would BIOS care which timezone the clock
> is set for?           --jeffs

No... not timezones.
Localtime vs. GMT time

>
> P.S. True nobody should have to reload Linux. It may be easy to say
> "change the settings and get on with life", but what settings?
>
>
> --- In suselinuxusers@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Kulkis <akulkis@H...> wrote:
>
>>Jefferson Smith wrote:
>>
>>>Alright, I got the ntp updates going, here's the log from this
>
> morning:
>
>>> 5 Nov 07:33:56 ntpd[5447]: synchronized to LOCAL(0), stratum 10
>>> 5 Nov 07:33:56 ntpd[5447]: kernel time sync disabled 0041
>>> 5 Nov 07:34:59 ntpd[5447]: kernel time sync enabled 0001
>>>
>>>Now, a strange thing I found. I want to know if I just don't have
>>>things configured right, or what. In the dialog "Adjust Date &
>>>Time..." from the Clock menu (in the corner of the taskbar), I had
>>>changed the setting to store time in UTC. This seems to not work
>>>right. It shows alright until I start the computer the next day, Then
>>>I think it is displaying UTC on the clock instead of the time zone I
>>>have selected. This happened before and after I enabled the ntp
>>>client. I changed back to set hwclock as local time, and it comes up
>>>correct in the morning.
>>
>>Check to see if your motherboard has a BIOS setting which
>>plays a part in this.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>--- In suselinuxusers@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Kulkis <akulkis@H...>
>
> wrote:
>
>>>>Jefferson Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Computer was off at the time. You're right about xntp. It happened
>>>>>again, the next time I left it off overnight. Sounds like the battery
>>>>>or hardware at least, but I haven't verified it. Sounds like xntp
>>>>>would avoid the need for the hardware keeping time between boots (?)
>>>>>      Thanks,   --jeffs
>>>>
>>>>Here's a working /etc/ntp.conf file
>>>>I have 12 level-2 servers and 1 level-3 server
>>>>
>>>>Make sure you read through it.
>>>># comments ending in (ark) were inserted by me.
>>>>Notice that I specify some log files to be in /var/log/ntp
>>>>
>>>>You'll want to either edit that, or do this
>>>>
>>>>$ su
>>>>password:
>>>># mkdir /var/log/ntp
>>>># exit
>>>>$
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> < sample /etc/ntp.conf file snipped>
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--- In suselinuxusers@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Kulkis <akulkis@H...>
wrote:
> Jefferson Smith wrote:
> >
> > I can't think of any settings in BIOS pertaining to which time
zone.
> > Any keywords to look for? Why would BIOS care which timezone the
clock
> > is set for?           --jeffs
>
> No... not timezones.
> Localtime vs. GMT time

Go on, I'm listening...  and the difference would be...

Jefferson Smith wrote:
>
> --- In suselinuxusers@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Kulkis <akulkis@H...>
> wrote:
>
>>Jefferson Smith wrote:
>>
>>>I can't think of any settings in BIOS pertaining to which time
>
> zone.
>
>>>Any keywords to look for? Why would BIOS care which timezone the
>
> clock
>
>>>is set for?           --jeffs
>>
>>No... not timezones.
>>Localtime vs. GMT time
>
>
> Go on, I'm listening...  and the difference would be...
>

As far as the BIOS... I'm not sure.  It's just an idea.

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 14:49:01 -0000
Jefferson wrote:

>
> --- In suselinuxusers@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Kulkis <akulkis@H...>
> wrote:
> > Jefferson Smith wrote:
> > >
> > > I can't think of any settings in BIOS pertaining to which time
> zone.
> > > Any keywords to look for? Why would BIOS care which timezone the
> clock
> > > is set for?           --jeffs
> >
> > No... not timezones.
> > Localtime vs. GMT time
>
> Go on, I'm listening...  and the difference would be...

...the value of your timezone. If your hardware clock is set to use GMT,
then at this moment it has the same time my hardware clock has. But I'm
on CET, meaning +01, so I'm one hour ahead when I get my time from the
system. You're probably elsewhere, and you'll get something different.

Problems arise when people use this kind of config on dual-boot systems
with Windows (I also have a dual-boot, but Linux & FreeBSD :) ). Windows
always stores the local time in the hardware clock. In my timezone, a
user would set the time to his local time, that value (localtime - ($TZ
= 1)) = GMT, goes to the hardware clock. The user then reboots, and
Windows shows a time 1hr behind. The user then sets the time in windows,
reboots, and sees ( hwclock + ($TZ = 1)), time one hour ahead in Linux.
The solution is to let Linux also use local time on hwclock, which is
achieved simply by not setting a timezone.

You set your timezone by declaring an environment variable $TZ. Here's
the line that does this for me, in my /etc/profile:

TZ='CET'; export TZ

Replace CET with your timezone, of course.

Cheers

--
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Registered Linux user #257714

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- and keep following the GNU.

I tried to run the SuSe 9.2 demo disk on my computer that runs the 9.1
disk and Knoppix with no problems. It stalls with a "Kernel Panic"
error. Tried safe mode, no luck. Could not find any info on the
Novell/SuSe site. Any help would be appreciated.

Art

Arthur A. McClure wrote:
>
> I tried to run the SuSe 9.2 demo disk on my computer that runs the 9.1
> disk and Knoppix with no problems. It stalls with a "Kernel Panic"
> error. Tried safe mode, no luck. Could not find any info on the
> Novell/SuSe site. Any help would be appreciated.

BEFORE the kernel panic, what does it say?

Same thing happened to me .. on a 1.8Gb Celeron which happily runs RedHat 9,
Suse 9.1, NetBSD 1.6 and FreeBSD 4.8. Go figure!

And another thing .. anybody figured how to install 9.2 from the
Demo Disk onto a hard disk (like you can do with Knoppix)?

G.
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Arthur A. McClure" <artmcclure@...>
Reply-To: suselinuxusers@yahoogroups.com
To: suselinuxusers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [SUSE Linux Users] SuSe 9.2 Demo Disk
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 19:47:39 -0000
I tried to run the SuSe 9.2 demo disk on my computer that runs the 9.1
disk and Knoppix with no problems. It stalls with a "Kernel Panic"
error. Tried safe mode, no luck. Could not find any info on the
Novell/SuSe site. Any help would be appreciated.
Art