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RE: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

At this point, Adobe has no plans to do anything which would disrupt any
ASV3 installations or dependencies on ASV3 downloads. If we come out
with new viewing technology which includes SVG support, we will be
highly sensitive towards the needs of SVG applications that are
installed in the field today. I also want to say that Adobe's primary
attitude towards SVG is fully positive: it represents a market
opportunity for our products and a technology opportunity when we are
looking for an XML representation of 2D graphics. Although the FAQ only
mentioned SVG on mobile devices, that was meant solely as a positive
acknowledgement of SVG momentum in the mobile space and was *not* meant
to imply anything negative about SVG in the desktop space.



Jon Ferraiolo

Adobe Systems, Inc.

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To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia



On Dec 07, 2005, at 15:44, Ronan Oger wrote:
> Corel is not being developed any more, but it has zero chance of being
> superceded with a downgraded version of the same.

It also has close to zero chance of being useful. People don't author
to it, and it won't be going anywhere.

> With ASV, there is every
> chance that it suddenly dissapears from your client desktops and is
> replaced
> with ASV4, or Acrobat8, which supports flash, pdf, and SVGt but no
> SVG.

Removing ASV3 when something that isn't an SVG implementation on par
with the current one is installed would be a fantastically stupid
move on Adobe's behalf, angering people for no gain whatsoever.
They've made mistakes in the past, but giving them so little credit
is insulting. If they support SVG Tiny in Apollo, which would
pleasantly surprise me, I don't see why they would remove ASV3. They
would take over handling the media type, but that applies to any
plugin (but not to browsers).

--
Robin Berjon
Senior Research Scientist
Expway, http://expway.com/





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Hmm. This looks to me like code for "we want to stay relevant in the SVG Mobile market, but think that SVG-Full on the browser is a dead end". I can't say I'm...
Ronan Oger
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Dec 6, 2005
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At this point, Adobe has no plans to do anything which would disrupt any ASV3 installations or dependencies on ASV3 downloads. If we come out with new viewing...
Jon Ferraiolo
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Dec 7, 2005
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Hi, Jon- Thanks for the clarification. I'm sure it will help many people and companies plan any strategies which involve SVG. I know you cannot confirm or...
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Dec 7, 2005
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Jon, Thanks for this. Regards, Jeff...
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Dec 7, 2005
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Could the FAQ be updated to clarify?...
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On Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 4:41:05 PM, Jon wrote: JF> At this point, Adobe has no plans to do anything which would disrupt any JF> ASV3 installations or...
Chris Lilley
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Dec 7, 2005
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I kind of miss the "old" days... when Jon would post a message and everyone would fire-off enemy-type replies. :) How quickly things change. Ever-lurking, ...
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Dec 7, 2005
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It's good to know that the baby is still in the bath and so is the water... Hopefully at Adobe you'll be considering that, with the integration ...
Garry Haywood
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Dec 7, 2005
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On Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 10:15:56 PM, Garry wrote: GH> It's good to know that the baby is still in the bath and so is the GH> water... GH> Hopefully at...
Chris Lilley
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Hi Jon, I need some help from Adobe. I've been working on an SVG app that provides real-time updates to a global map that tracks the Avian Flu. There is a...
Francis Hemsher
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Dec 8, 2005
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On Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 8:33:46 PM, Jon wrote: JF> Chris, JF> Adobe does talk about general technology vision (e.g., the Apollo JF> version of...
Chris Lilley
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I'm testing FF 1.5, and have an svg file with mouseover events. FF is laboriously slow. Has anyone had similar problems? Sean...
Sean Montague
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Dec 7, 2005
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Do you have an example? Did you post it at the mozilla svg newsgroup or wrote a bug report? see http://groups.google.com/group/netscape.public.mozilla.svg ...
Andreas Neumann
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Dec 7, 2005
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I uploaded the file, "test.zip: slow mouseover event FF 1.5". If my code is OK, Ill forward it to Mozilla. As far as opacity goes, I did not set those...
Sean
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Dec 8, 2005
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... yes but this was linked I think to the size and complexity of the svg file. Removing elements speeded up events. JD...
Jean-David Benamou
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Dec 8, 2005
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If it is the size, then that would be a shame. The exact same file in IE with the ASV 3.x viewer is a lot faster. I'll submit it to Mozilla....
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Chris, Adobe does talk about general technology vision (e.g., the Apollo version of combining PDF, Flash and HTML), but unfortunately we still often hold back...
Jon Ferraiolo
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Dec 7, 2005
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Hi, I'm catching up on all the svg postings and a bit surprised at the viability concerns. In the larger picture the obvious trend is toward open standards....
Randy George
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Hey Randy, I missed this post earlier. A few months ago I would probably have not fully understood your comments. But these times are so interesing and dynamic...
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