I have an SVG file that consists of several groups: a solid background png
image, then a
group of polygons, and finally a png image that is mostly transparent.  What I
would like to
be able to do is to have the transparent image drawn on top, but to have the
mouse events
received by the polygon layer.  Is there any easy way to do this?

Thanks,
--Bill Barksdale

Hi, Bill-

wcbarksdale wrote:
> I have an SVG file that consists of several groups: a solid background png
image, then a
> group of polygons, and finally a png image that is mostly transparent.  What I
would like to
> be able to do is to have the transparent image drawn on top, but to have the
mouse events
> received by the polygon layer.  Is there any easy way to do this?

Simplicity itself:

<svg ...>
    <g id="backgroundPNG"> ... </g>
    <g id="polygons"> ... </g>
    <g id="foregroundPNG" pointer-event="none"> ... </g>
</svg>

Regards-
-Doug

Hi, Bill-

Doug Schepers wrote:
>
> <svg ...>
>    <g id="backgroundPNG"> ... </g>
>    <g id="polygons"> ... </g>
>    <g id="foregroundPNG" pointer-event="none"> ... </g>
> </svg>

Sorry, typo... it should be:

       <g id="foregroundPNG" pointer-events="none"> ... </g>

or just:

       <image x="50" y="50" width="333" height="502"
xlink:href="foreground.png" pointer-events="none"/>


Regards-
-Doug

Hi Chaals,

I seem not to have received feedback on the status of my abstract submission for
SVG Open 2007 yet, though the web page says something about returning feedback
by June 25. Might I have missed an email or has feedback not yet been given?

regards,
David

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi David,

ddailey wrote, On 7/4/2007 1:11 AM:
> I seem not to have received feedback on the status of my abstract submission
for SVG Open 2007 yet, though the web page says something about returning
feedback by June 25. Might I have missed an email or has feedback not yet been
given?

Sorry for the delay. We are working on this stage.
You will receive our feedback soon.

Fumi

> We are working on this stage. You will receive our feedback soon.

Thanks Fumi and apologies to all for sending to the group -- I had intended just
to reply to Chaals offlist and forgot it would go to the list.

David



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hello folks,

The new version 0.7 is out. One of the highlights is the complete new
font and text engine, making Renesis capable of loading embedded SVG
Fonts, improving perfomance on text rendering and allowing fancy things
like Patterns and Gradients on Text. We've also improved compability
with the SVG 1.1 Testsuite to raise the level up. We appreciate any
comments you might have.

The latest release can be downloaded from http://www.emiasys.com.

Thanks & Regards
Alexander Adam
Renesis SVG Player - http://www.emiaSys.NET
Emia Systems Corp. - http://www.emiaSys.COM

Can you post the results of the SVG 1.1 Test Suite?

Alastair

--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "emiasys" <emiasys@...> wrote:
>
> Hello folks,
>
> The new version 0.7 is out. One of the highlights is the complete new
> font and text engine, making Renesis capable of loading embedded SVG
> Fonts, improving perfomance on text rendering and allowing fancy things
> like Patterns and Gradients on Text. We've also improved compability
> with the SVG 1.1 Testsuite to raise the level up. We appreciate any
> comments you might have.
>
> The latest release can be downloaded from http://www.emiasys.com.
>
> Thanks & Regards
> Alexander Adam
> Renesis SVG Player - http://www.emiaSys.NET
> Emia Systems Corp. - http://www.emiaSys.COM
>

Hi,

Is anybody working with SVG Tiny for mapping issues?

I have been searching for mapping resources in SVG Tiny and I have only
found some examples. Do you know where can I find maps in SVG Tiny format.

Also I am searching for a tool to transform standard SVG to SVG Tiny, how
can I do that?

Thank you.







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hello,

mapping data is usually managed in a GIS or spatial database. So
normally, you wouldn't buy or download SVG data directly, but you
would get a GIS dataset and convert it to SVG. Unfortunately,
geodata, esp. in certain countries, usually is rather expensive and
not free. In the US its available for free.

Converting GIS data to SVG is relatively trivial. Many commercial and
open source converters exist. Usually, geometry like, SVG is more
powerful than GIS, regarding the use of curves (arcs, bezier curves),
but in SVG tiny the coordinate range is limited from −32,768 to
+32,767, so a converter would have to make sure that the coordinates
are within this range. Of course one has to document the process so
one can re-transform to the original coordinate system.

One converter is available from
http://www.carto.net/papers/svg/utils/shp2svg/ - together with the "--
scale" option you can ensure that the coordinates fall into the
limited coordinate range.

For transforming SVG 1.1 to 1.1 Tiny or 1.2 tiny, you can perhaps use
Adobe Illustrator or other tools. If you avoid certain SVG 1.1 full
features, you will automatically be also tiny conformant.

I hope this helps a little bit. Feel free to ask additional questions.

Andreas

--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel de la Cuesta"
<cues7a@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Is anybody working with SVG Tiny for mapping issues?
>
> I have been searching for mapping resources in SVG Tiny and I have
only
> found some examples. Do you know where can I find maps in SVG Tiny
format.
>
> Also I am searching for a tool to transform standard SVG to SVG
Tiny, how
> can I do that?
>
> Thank you.

hi list,

trying to get an older project to work on ASV3, FF2, FF3a and Opera i
came accross a relative image path problem.

i have a main test file with a combined getURL/XMLHttpRequest function
at say path/test/main.svg.

at path/tile_nrxx.svg i do have tiles i want to load.

therein are referenced images to be found at path/jpgs/tile_nrxx.jpg

schema:

path/test/main.svg
path/jpgs/tile_nrxx.jpg
path/tile_nrxx.svg

when i call some tile from path/main.svg, the path i am passing is
'../tile_nrxx.svg' wheras i have

<image xlink:href="jpgs/tile_nrxx.jpg"/> in this tile_nrxx.svg file.

my SVG content loads how expected with all browsers, but the jpg loads
differently:

- ASV/MSIE and Opera: okay
- FF 2: jpg missing
- FF 3: jpg missing

it also works with

<image xlink:href="../jpgs/tile_nrxx.jpg"/> that way:

- ASV/MSIE and Opera: okay
- FF 2: jpg missing
- FF 3: okay


that would mean that referenced images are seen relative to the main
document and not relative to the parsed one and where it is referenced
in. why do ASV/MSIE and Opera show the image however it is referenced
and wherever it really is?

if i use absolute or webroot (/...) paths, anything works as expected
the result is the same but FF2 never shows the jpg (btw it doesn't when
all files are in the same directory).

do i just have a bad day after a dentist session this morning or is
there some logic behind?


andré


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* André M. Winter - Carto.net wrote:
>that would mean that referenced images are seen relative to the main
>document and not relative to the parsed one and where it is referenced
>in. why do ASV/MSIE and Opera show the image however it is referenced
>and wherever it really is?

I did not check your analysis, but if correct, the obvious reason would
be that for some reason, the implementations you mention remember the
base URI of the elements. There could be a number of specific reasons
for that, but you would have to tell us how they come to load the images
at all (presumably, you are somehow adding the elements to the document,
how you do that is important). Further, there might be xml:base elements
in the documents you have not told us about.
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Hello,

in the HEAD range of the HTML document is defined and described a
global Javascript value.

In the BODY of the same HTML document over <embed> a SVG file is
linked. In this SVG file a Javascript is to access the global value in
the Tag <defs>.

In the IE6.0 everything functions marvelously. The global value
contains the desired data.

In the FF2.0 the variable is announced in the SVG as undefined.

Can someone say to me why this is with FF not functioned, and/or as
one brings FF to it the global value to hand over.

Code in HTML-HEAD:
<head>
<script language="JavaScript">
var JSVariable = 99;
</script>
</head>

SVG-Link in BODY:
<embed src="graphic/rect_0.svg" name="rect_0" width="150" height="125"
type="image/svg+xml" />

Code in SVG:
<defs>
<script><![CDATA[
alert("hallo "+JSVariable);
]]></script>
</defs>

best regards
Luca

--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "luca.brassi32"
<luca.brassi32@...> wrote:

> <script language="JavaScript">
> var JSVariable = 99;
> </script>
> </head>
>
> SVG-Link in BODY:
> <embed src="graphic/rect_0.svg" name="rect_0" width="150" height="125"
> type="image/svg+xml" />
>
> Code in SVG:
> <defs>
> <script><![CDATA[
> alert("hallo "+JSVariable);

Try
   parent.JSVariable

Hi,

I've just downloaded and installed Renesis 0.7 but when I tried it with
a very simple SVG, I got a message saying it had encountered a problem
and had to quit.

Is there a way round this.  Is there a way to intall the plug-in and
then go back to ASV 3?

Richard Pearman       http://www.pixelpalaces.com/
The next stage in the evolution of web comics:
http://www.onlinecomics.net/pages/details/listing.php?comicID=4415

--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "emiasys" <emiasys@...> wrote:
>
> Hello folks,
>
> The new version 0.7 is out. One of the highlights is the complete new
> font and text engine, making Renesis capable of loading embedded SVG
> Fonts, improving perfomance on text rendering and allowing fancy
things
> like Patterns and Gradients on Text. We've also improved compability
> with the SVG 1.1 Testsuite to raise the level up. We appreciate any
> comments you might have.
>
> The latest release can be downloaded from http://www.emiasys.com.
>
> Thanks & Regards
> Alexander Adam
> Renesis SVG Player - http://www.emiaSys.NET
> Emia Systems Corp. - http://www.emiaSys.COM
>

Hi,

> I am testing renesis. Obviously the jwatt wrappers for getURL postURL
etc.. do not work ...
> any info available on this somewhere ?
> thanks
> JD

Can you tell me where to test these wrappers? Then we could have a look
into those. Note that getURL and postURL should be fully supported
although the function bodys are different than in ASV to keep
conformity with the SVG 1.2 Standard.

Regards
Alexander Adam
--
Renesis Player - http://www.emiasys.NET

Hi!

>
> I've just downloaded and installed Renesis 0.7 but when I tried it
with
> a very simple SVG, I got a message saying it had encountered a
problem
> and had to quit.
>
> Is there a way round this.  Is there a way to intall the plug-in and
> then go back to ASV 3?

Hmmm that sounds strange. Could you send us the file it made it
crashing? Did you try the IE Plugin or open it in the Renesis
Standalone player?

Regards
Alexander Adam
--
Renesis Player - http://www.emiasys.net

Alastair,

I did my bit yesterday and updated
http://www.codedread.com/svg-support.php..  From a SVG 1.1 Test Suite
perspective, Renesis 0.7 is looking much better.

To the Emiasys folks:  good work, but I have one problem.  I serve
most of my SVG via PHP on my website.  None of these are working right
now with Renesis installed:

http://www.codedread.com/yastgame.php
http://www.codedread.com/freecell.php
http://www.codedread.com/solitaire.php

Jeff

--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "Alastair Fettes" <afettes@...>
wrote:
>
> Can you post the results of the SVG 1.1 Test Suite?
>
> Alastair
>
> --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "emiasys" <emiasys@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello folks,
> >
> > The new version 0.7 is out. One of the highlights is the complete new
> > font and text engine, making Renesis capable of loading embedded SVG
> > Fonts, improving perfomance on text rendering and allowing fancy
things
> > like Patterns and Gradients on Text. We've also improved compability
> > with the SVG 1.1 Testsuite to raise the level up. We appreciate any
> > comments you might have.
> >
> > The latest release can be downloaded from http://www.emiasys.com.
> >
> > Thanks & Regards
> > Alexander Adam
> > Renesis SVG Player - http://www.emiaSys.NET
> > Emia Systems Corp. - http://www.emiaSys.COM
> >
>

http://www.emiasys.com points to http://www.gosvg.net/ which is a
cyber-squatted domain from what i can make out. You might want to fix
that. Also, I can't see an easy way to get to the SVG player from the
com home page, so you should probably have pointed people to http://
www.emiasys.net/ not http://www.emiasys.com/...

Guy

On 04/07/2007, at 1:40 PM, emiasys wrote:

> Hello folks,
>
> The new version 0.7 is out. One of the highlights is the complete new
> font and text engine, making Renesis capable of loading embedded SVG
> Fonts, improving perfomance on text rendering and allowing fancy
> things
> like Patterns and Gradients on Text. We've also improved compability
> with the SVG 1.1 Testsuite to raise the level up. We appreciate any
> comments you might have.
>
> The latest release can be downloaded from http://www.emiasys.com.
>
> Thanks & Regards
> Alexander Adam
> Renesis SVG Player - http://www.emiaSys.NET
> Emia Systems Corp. - http://www.emiaSys.COM
>
>
>
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>
>

It seems to me that the player has become less capable, rather than
more capable.

In the SVG app at:

http://lhr.webtrak-lochard.com/

we now only get a message saying "Load Error"

In v0.6, it at least rendered some of the content!

Guy


On 04/07/2007, at 1:40 PM, emiasys wrote:

> Hello folks,
>
> The new version 0.7 is out. One of the highlights is the complete new
> font and text engine, making Renesis capable of loading embedded SVG
> Fonts, improving perfomance on text rendering and allowing fancy
> things
> like Patterns and Gradients on Text. We've also improved compability
> with the SVG 1.1 Testsuite to raise the level up. We appreciate any
> comments you might have.
>
> The latest release can be downloaded from http://www.emiasys.com.
>
> Thanks & Regards
> Alexander Adam
> Renesis SVG Player - http://www.emiaSys.NET
> Emia Systems Corp. - http://www.emiaSys.COM
>
>
>
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Hey, Guy-

Guy Morton wrote:
> It seems to me that the player has become less capable, rather than
> more capable.
>
> In the SVG app at:
>
> http://lhr.webtrak-lochard.com/
>
> we now only get a message saying "Load Error"
>
> In v0.6, it at least rendered some of the content!

When I try to use the Webapp on that site with the 0.7.0.0 build of
Renesis, I get the a series of errors, starting with the following:

   'config' is undefined
   line: 1, column 690
   Source: <not available>


Regards-
-Doug

Hi Doug

Well you got a more interesting error message than I did, but it
doesn't indicate to me that there's anything wrong with the
application (which has been extensively tested and found to work just
fine in Firefox 1.5+ (Mac/Windows) Opera 9 (Mac/Windows) and IE6 and
7 with ASV plugin). Considering its size and complexity I think it's
a pretty good test for any new renderer out there as it is built to
work in both ASV and more standards-compliant renderers.

The point I was trying to make is that it was not rendering in
Renesis at all for me now, whereas in v0.6 it used to at least
partially render. I've pointed the Emiasys guys at this app in the
past so I guess I was just hoping they might have made some
incremental progress towards providing the feature-set needed to run
this app, that's all...

Guy


On 06/07/2007, at 3:04 PM, Doug Schepers wrote:

> Hey, Guy-
>
> Guy Morton wrote:
>> It seems to me that the player has become less capable, rather than
>> more capable.
>>
>> In the SVG app at:
>>
>> http://lhr.webtrak-lochard.com/
>>
>> we now only get a message saying "Load Error"
>>
>> In v0.6, it at least rendered some of the content!
>
> When I try to use the Webapp on that site with the 0.7.0.0 build of
> Renesis, I get the a series of errors, starting with the following:
>
>   'config' is undefined
>   line: 1, column 690
>   Source: <not available>
>
>
> Regards-
> -Doug
>
>
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Hi!

> Well you got a more interesting error message than I did, but it
> doesn't indicate to me that there's anything wrong with the
> application (which has been extensively tested and found to work
just
> fine in Firefox 1.5+ (Mac/Windows) Opera 9 (Mac/Windows) and IE6
and
> 7 with ASV plugin). Considering its size and complexity I think
it's
> a pretty good test for any new renderer out there as it is built
to
> work in both ASV and more standards-compliant renderers.
>
> The point I was trying to make is that it was not rendering in
> Renesis at all for me now, whereas in v0.6 it used to at least
> partially render. I've pointed the Emiasys guys at this app in the
> past so I guess I was just hoping they might have made some
> incremental progress towards providing the feature-set needed to
run
> this app, that's all...


Hmm that's weird that you don't see anything at all. Are you serving
the content by PHP? Did you uninstall the previous Renesis Release?
What's your environment spec? (IE xx, Windows xx, etc.?)

And would it be possible for you to provide as an runnable offline
version that we could use to debug and see what's wrong? This would
help alot to get such applications working. You could just mail it to
support'at'emiasys'dot'com.

Thanks for your support,
Regards
Alexander Adam
--
Renesis SVG Player - http://www.emiasys.NET

Jeff,

>
> I did my bit yesterday and updated
> http://www.codedread.com/svg-support.php..  From a SVG 1.1 Test Suite
> perspective, Renesis 0.7 is looking much better.
>
> To the Emiasys folks:  good work, but I have one problem.  I serve
> most of my SVG via PHP on my website.  None of these are working right
> now with Renesis installed:
>
> http://www.codedread.com/yastgame.php
> http://www.codedread.com/freecell.php
> http://www.codedread.com/solitaire.php

Hmm that's strange. Did you uninstall the previous release of Renesis
if any? Did you have the ASV installed before installing Renesis?
What's your system configuration? And what do you mean by "none of
these are working right" -- aren't they rendered or don't they even
load or what happens?

Thanks for your support to find the issue!
Regards
Alexander Adam
--
Renesis SVG Player - http://www.emiasys.NET

hi,

while updating older projects to FF & Opera i noticed that referenced
jpgs in svg fragments (or files) i load into another one with
XMLHttpRequest() do not show up in FF2, whatever path i set within the
xlinl:href-tag. FF3a works fine.

is there any method to overcome this?

thx,
andré

--
___________________________________________________________________
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    cartography for internet and multimedia applications
    schiessstand 4/1, a6091 goetzens, tyrol, austria
    tel.: ++43.5234.32732

<http://www.vectoreal.com/>          SVG consulting and development
<http://www.geotrace.net/>   geo-localized high quality photographs
<http://www.carto.at/>     print and online touristic map solutions

HI there Alexander

No, there's no possibility of making a functional offline version of
this app - it has many many hooks into a database backend and
includes many external files at runtime.

It's not served via PHP - it's emitted by a perl module but that
shouldn't matter I wouldn't have thought...

I was looking at this on WinXP in IE6. Pretty sure i didn't have a
previous version installed, as this is a virtual machine, but it's
possible. Could that cause the symptom i'm describing?

Guy

On 06/07/2007, at 4:22 PM, emiasys wrote:

> Hi!
>
>> Well you got a more interesting error message than I did, but it
>> doesn't indicate to me that there's anything wrong with the
>> application (which has been extensively tested and found to work
> just
>> fine in Firefox 1.5+ (Mac/Windows) Opera 9 (Mac/Windows) and IE6
> and
>> 7 with ASV plugin). Considering its size and complexity I think
> it's
>> a pretty good test for any new renderer out there as it is built
> to
>> work in both ASV and more standards-compliant renderers.
>>
>> The point I was trying to make is that it was not rendering in
>> Renesis at all for me now, whereas in v0.6 it used to at least
>> partially render. I've pointed the Emiasys guys at this app in the
>> past so I guess I was just hoping they might have made some
>> incremental progress towards providing the feature-set needed to
> run
>> this app, that's all...
>
>
> Hmm that's weird that you don't see anything at all. Are you serving
> the content by PHP? Did you uninstall the previous Renesis Release?
> What's your environment spec? (IE xx, Windows xx, etc.?)
>
> And would it be possible for you to provide as an runnable offline
> version that we could use to debug and see what's wrong? This would
> help alot to get such applications working. You could just mail it to
> support'at'emiasys'dot'com.
>
> Thanks for your support,
> Regards
> Alexander Adam
> --
> Renesis SVG Player - http://www.emiasys.NET
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>

Jeff,

> To the Emiasys folks:  good work, but I have one problem.  I serve
> most of my SVG via PHP on my website.  None of these are working right
> now with Renesis installed:
>
> http://www.codedread.com/yastgame.php
> http://www.codedread.com/freecell.php
> http://www.codedread.com/solitaire.php
>

Yes you'be been correct, we've fixed this for the next release. On
another note: Most people are still checking if ASV is installed in
their JS and they do not consider Renesis so we'd please to add a check
for Renesis, too, as otherwise if people do not have ASV installed, no
SVG will be shown.

Thanks + Regards
Alexander Adam
--
Renesis SVG Player - http://www.emiasys.NET

--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "André M. Winter - Carto.net"
<ml.winter@...> wrote:

> while updating older projects to FF & Opera i noticed that referenced
> jpgs in svg fragments (or files) i load into another one with
> XMLHttpRequest() do not show up in FF2, whatever path i set within the
> xlinl:href-tag. FF3a works fine.
>
> is there any method to overcome this?

I managed to do this, see
<http://home.arcor.de/martin.honnen/svg/test2007070601.svg>
It is ugly, it imports the image element first from responseXML, then
inserts the imported image in the document tree first, then clones
that image element and replaced the inserted image with the clone.

argh, thanks anyway!

as i have map tiles (with one background jpg), i know my jpg file names.
but building a special case for FF2 isn't nice at all.

as you kind of re-import the image, does this mean in the common way of
doing an XMLHttpReq with image-elements that the image really not is
present in the final DOM?

said differently: how to test this FF2 bug without struggling with
browser versions?

greetings from Tyrol,
andré






Martin Honnen schrieb:
> --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "André M. Winter - Carto.net"
> <ml.winter@...> wrote:
>
>> while updating older projects to FF & Opera i noticed that referenced
>> jpgs in svg fragments (or files) i load into another one with
>> XMLHttpRequest() do not show up in FF2, whatever path i set within the
>> xlinl:href-tag. FF3a works fine.
>>
>> is there any method to overcome this?
>
> I managed to do this, see
> <http://home.arcor.de/martin.honnen/svg/test2007070601.svg>
> It is ugly, it imports the image element first from responseXML, then
> inserts the imported image in the document tree first, then clones
> that image element and replaced the inserted image with the clone.
>
>
>

I am just trying to understand the Rationale here.

  ASV plugin(which is mature and stable) is available
for download indefinitely. Unless Renesis wants to
improve over ASV capability, I do not see any
rationale behind another SVG plugin development for
IE. How about the user confidence level in using
Renesis(in future) for some serious applications? Is
it going to be a freeware?



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