On Tuesday, August 29, 2006, 12:04:58 PM, Doug wrote:

DS> I agree with Ronan that we simply should not publish the papers. It would
DS> not be fair to the authors, and for that matter, we have not reviewed the
DS> papers at all, and so we don't know what the quality of the papers is. We
DS> would have to review them needlessly.

I agree.

DS> In fact, none of us have seen these papers at all, other than Kurt.

Right. This is itself a problem.

DS> We need
DS> to contact the authors and ask if they want to resubmit the papers for 2007.

Yes, but firstly to tell them that 2006 is cancelled.

DS> If anyone does, we should begin setting up a review board and review the
DS> papers in a timely fashion.

Submission for 2007 is an orthogonal issue. It can be mentioned, as a
'your work is not wasted' way to soften the blow, but lets assume that
the 2007 conference is run very differently and that there is a call for
papers in good time, a reviww committee in advance, etc.

DS> I also agree that we should publicize the cancellation (not "postponement")
DS> of the SVG 2006 conference.

I would strongly argue against any hint of a 'postponement' or indeed of
tying 2007 to 2006 in any way in the public mind.

DS> Regards-
DS> Doug
DS>

DS> Ronan Oger wrote:
DS> |
DS> | Absolutely, we need to contact them.
DS> |
DS> | Do you want to share that load?
DS> |
DS> | If so, send me some abstracts and email/phonecontacts, and I
DS> | can deal with
DS> | them.
DS> |
DS> | As far as publishing the papers to the 2006 site goes, this
DS> | is a difficult
DS> | question. It can go both ways.
DS> |
DS> | I do not think that it is fair to ask authors to publish to a
DS> | nonexistant
DS> | conference. Papers are a valuable product that authors build
DS> | and propose to a
DS> | conference in order to get a valuable currency back:
DS> | notoriety and exposure.
DS> | Offering to authors to publish their papers on svgopen2006 is
DS> | a bit like
DS> | bait-and-switch.
DS> |
DS> | In my opinion, even though it is a well-meaning gesture, it
DS> | is a somewhat
DS> | poisoned one and the author may feel pressured to publish.
DS> |
DS> | Also, we REALLY ABSOLUTELY need to notify the community outside of
DS> | svg-developers and the web page. We need to get it on svg.org
DS> | AT LEAST to get
DS> | the news out.
DS> |
DS> | People are asking for budgets to go to the conference, and to
DS> | be frank,
DS> | svg-developers has fallen into the background as far as I can see.
DS> |
DS> | I considered putting a story on svg.org over the weekend
DS> | pointing to Kurt's
DS> | message, but having been criticised for being a thorn in this
DS> | list's side, I
DS> | feel that it would be better if someone else would do this.
DS> |
DS> | Ronan
DS> |
DS> | On Tuesday 29 August 2006 09:44, Andreas Neumann wrote:
| >> Since we received 45 paper or abstracts I think it is our duty to
| >> personally inform the authors of these papers or abstracts that the
| >> conference won't take place at the envisaged time.
| >>
| >> Did someone do this already? If not, could you send me a list with
| >> papers and contact information so I (or someone else) can inform the
| >> authors?
| >>
| >> Someone at the yahoogroups suggested to post the papers for
DS> | 2006 anyway.
| >> I personally, as an author, would like to resubmit the
DS> | paper to another
| >> conference or for 2007 if that happens. Should we ask
DS> | authors whether
| >> they would like to publish their paper now at the
DS> | svgopen2006 website?
| >>
| >> What do you think?
| >>
| >> Andreas
DS> |
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