I managed to get the connectivity problem fixed.  I was editing the sbbs.ini to
see if I could get it using syslogd for a 'hard copy' of any errors I was
getting and likely missing.  In the process I found the USER and GROUP variables
and decided to set up sbbsuser and sbbsgroup accounts.  That seems to have
corrected the telnet weirdness for both local and LAN connections.

Was this all just a permissions problem?

Thanks to all who responded.  I may have another question in short order if I
can't figure out my new problem.

Chris B.

--- In synchronet@yahoogroups.com, Ray Eason <raye@...> wrote:
>
> All firewalls will use the same standard TCP/IP ports unless specified
> to use something else. Port 80 for web is port 80 for web unless your
> change it.
>
> If nothing is is being reported under netstat, are you sure that the bbs
> is loaded? How are you loading it? Via command line execution or using
> the daemon?

All firewalls will use the same standard TCP/IP ports unless specified
to use something else. Port 80 for web is port 80 for web unless your
change it.

If nothing is is being reported under netstat, are you sure that the bbs
is loaded? How are you loading it? Via command line execution or using
the daemon?

vikingnoise wrote:
>
> @ Rob Swindell:
> I've indeed read the TCP/IP FAQ, but I didn't see anything there
> beyond which ports to open in the firewall. Unless I missed a link to
> another page there's nothing on how to open said needed ports, which
> is understandable since that can vary depending on the firewall being
> used.
>
> @ Chris Hubbard:
> I've run 'netstat -an | grep | :23' and there's nothing listening on
> that port. My startup scripts don't include one for iptables (I've
> checked both /etc/init.d/ and /etc/rc.d/ and found nothing specific
> for iptables. It's also not to be found in any process list, so I'm
> not sure it's even running...?
>
> One question that will clear up a bit of my confusion: Is SBBS set up
> to automatically listening on all the various ports it uses once it's
> running? Also, is 3.15a a stable release or would I be better off
> trying 3.14a instead?
>
> Anway, thanks for the suggestions. I'm open to any more you guys might
> have :)
>
> Chris B.
>
> --- In synchronet@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:synchronet%40yahoogroups.com>, Christopher Hubbard
> <guyverix@...> wrote:
> >
> > You can always do a /etc/init.d/iptables stop to see if it is your
> firewall.Â
> >
> > And netstat -an | grep :23Â to see if sbbs is listening on the
> proper port...
> >
> > "You're a great friend, but if the Zombies chase us I am tripping you!."
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > --- On Sat, 12/12/09, Rob Swindell <rob@...> wrote:
> >
> > From: Rob Swindell <rob@...>
> > Subject: Re: [synchronet] Problem connecting to SBBS on Linux
> > To: synchronet@yahoogroups.com <mailto:synchronet%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 4:43 PM
> >
> > Have you read http://synchro. net/docs/ tcpip_faq. html ?
> >
> > It's most likely your Linux or network configuration. You can use
> 'netstat' to verify that Synchronet is in fact listening on the ports
> you are expecting.
> >
> > -Rob
>
>

Well if you have a dial up account, try using that to connect to the bbs
either via telnet or web interface. You might be able to connect to it
locally via the web by typing the ip address and port number of the web
interface. If that dosnt work, try adding the ip and host name to your
windows hosts file.

BTW, I am not the author of the software. Rob is so thank him :)

Ray

vikingnoise wrote:
>
> Thanks for replying.
>
> I don't know if it can or will accept WAN-side connections; I don't
> have a way of testing that at the moment. My 2 computers are networked
> through a switch with a single uplink to my DSL modem/router. I'm not
> having any communication problems between nodes; I can connect to my
> WinXP install of SBBS from the Linux system using private IPs and
> locally using 'telnet localhost.' The Linux install of SBBS refuses
> local and remote (LAN) connections.
>
> I might be able to test a WAN-side remote connection next week, but I
> don't understand why it would work where a LAN connection doesn't.
>
> And before I forget, thanks for SBBS. I spent study halls in high
> school BBSing, mostly playing door games like LORD, Usurper, and
> BRE/SRE. It's nice being able to run my own.
>
> --- In synchronet@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:synchronet%40yahoogroups.com>, Ray Eason <raye@...> wrote:
> >
> > Does it work if you try to access it from outside of the LAN?
> >
> > Ray Eason
>
>

@ Rob Swindell:
I've indeed read the TCP/IP FAQ, but I didn't see anything there beyond which
ports to open in the firewall.  Unless I missed a link to another page there's
nothing on how to open said needed ports, which is understandable since that can
vary depending on the firewall being used.

@ Chris Hubbard:
I've run 'netstat -an | grep | :23' and there's nothing listening on that port. 
My startup scripts don't include one for iptables (I've checked both
/etc/init.d/ and /etc/rc.d/ and found nothing specific for iptables.  It's also
not to be found in any process list, so I'm not sure it's even running...?

One question that will clear up a bit of my confusion: Is SBBS set up to
automatically listening on all the various ports it uses once it's running? 
Also, is 3.15a a stable release or would I be better off trying 3.14a instead?

Anway, thanks for the suggestions.  I'm open to any more you guys might have :)

Chris B.

--- In synchronet@yahoogroups.com, Christopher Hubbard <guyverix@...> wrote:
>
> You can always do a /etc/init.d/iptables stop to see if it is your firewall. 
>
> And netstat -an | grep :23  to see if sbbs is listening on the proper port...
>
> "You're a great friend, but if the Zombies chase us I am tripping you!."
>
> Chris
>
> --- On Sat, 12/12/09, Rob Swindell <rob@...> wrote:
>
> From: Rob Swindell <rob@...>
> Subject: Re: [synchronet] Problem connecting to SBBS on Linux
> To: synchronet@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 4:43 PM
>
> Have you read http://synchro. net/docs/ tcpip_faq. html ?
>
> It's most likely your Linux or network configuration. You can use 'netstat' to
verify that Synchronet is in fact listening on the ports you are expecting.
>
> -Rob

Thanks for replying.

I don't know if it can or will accept WAN-side connections; I don't have a way
of testing that at the moment.  My 2 computers are networked through a switch
with a single uplink to my DSL modem/router.  I'm not having any communication
problems between nodes; I can connect to my WinXP install of SBBS from the Linux
system using private IPs and locally using 'telnet localhost.'  The Linux
install of SBBS refuses local and remote (LAN) connections.

I might be able to test a WAN-side remote connection next week, but I don't
understand why it would work where a LAN connection doesn't.

And before I forget, thanks for SBBS.  I spent study halls in high school
BBSing, mostly playing door games like LORD, Usurper, and BRE/SRE.  It's nice
being able to run my own.

--- In synchronet@yahoogroups.com, Ray Eason <raye@...> wrote:
>
> Does it work if you try to access it from outside of the LAN?
>
> Ray Eason

You can always do a /etc/init.d/iptables stop to see if it is your firewall. 

And netstat -an | grep :23  to see if sbbs is listening on the proper port...



"You're a great friend, but if the Zombies chase us I am tripping you!."



Chris

--- On Sat, 12/12/09, Rob Swindell <rob@...> wrote:

From: Rob Swindell <rob@...>
Subject: Re: [synchronet] Problem connecting to SBBS on Linux
To: synchronet@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 4:43 PM







 









       Have you read http://synchro. net/docs/ tcpip_faq. html ?



It's most likely your Linux or network configuration. You can use 'netstat' to
verify that Synchronet is in fact listening on the ports you are expecting.



-Rob



----- Original Message -----

   From: vikingnoise

   To: synchronet@yahoogro ups.com

   Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 3:22 PM

   Subject: [synchronet] Problem connecting to SBBS on Linux



I've successfully installed SBBS 3.15a on a Slackware 12.2 system and can start
it up without any apparent problems. The trick is that I can't connect to it
locally or remotely because either a)it's blocked by my firewall, b)SBBS isn't
listening on port 23, c)or both. I've tried modifying my iptables to see if I
could allow 23/TCP traffic for SBBS, but it makes no difference. I've also
followed a LinuxQuestions. org suggestion to run SBBS as a daemon, also to no
effect.



I'd like to know if this is a configuration problem with SBBS or the source my
little quandary lies with Linux itself.



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

























[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Have you read http://synchro.net/docs/tcpip_faq.html ?

It's most likely your Linux or network configuration. You can use 'netstat' to
verify that Synchronet is in fact listening on the ports you are expecting.

-Rob

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: vikingnoise
   To: synchronet@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 3:22 PM
   Subject: [synchronet] Problem connecting to SBBS on Linux



   I've successfully installed SBBS 3.15a on a Slackware 12.2 system and can
start it up without any apparent problems. The trick is that I can't connect to
it locally or remotely because either a)it's blocked by my firewall, b)SBBS
isn't listening on port 23, c)or both. I've tried modifying my iptables to see
if I could allow 23/TCP traffic for SBBS, but it makes no difference. I've also
followed a LinuxQuestions.org suggestion to run SBBS as a daemon, also to no
effect.

   I'd like to know if this is a configuration problem with SBBS or the source my
little quandary lies with Linux itself.





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Does it work if you try to access it from outside of the LAN?

Ray Eason

vikingnoise wrote:
>
> I've successfully installed SBBS 3.15a on a Slackware 12.2 system and
> can start it up without any apparent problems. The trick is that I
> can't connect to it locally or remotely because either a)it's blocked
> by my firewall, b)SBBS isn't listening on port 23, c)or both. I've
> tried modifying my iptables to see if I could allow 23/TCP traffic for
> SBBS, but it makes no difference. I've also followed a
> LinuxQuestions.org suggestion to run SBBS as a daemon, also to no effect.
>
> I'd like to know if this is a configuration problem with SBBS or the
> source my little quandary lies with Linux itself.
>
>

I've successfully installed SBBS 3.15a on a Slackware 12.2 system and can start
it up without any apparent problems.  The trick is that I can't connect to it
locally or remotely because either a)it's blocked by my firewall, b)SBBS isn't
listening on port 23, c)or both.  I've tried modifying my iptables to see if I
could allow 23/TCP traffic for SBBS, but it makes no difference.  I've also
followed a LinuxQuestions.org suggestion to run SBBS as a daemon, also to no
effect.

I'd like to know if this is a configuration problem with SBBS or the source my
little quandary lies with Linux itself.

REUSEADDR = 1

That resolved the problem.

Thanks much Rob!



________________________________
From: Rob Swindell <rob@...>
To: synchronet@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, December 1, 2009 3:01:54 PM
Subject: Re: [synchronet] Re: Migrating from SBBS 4.14a to 4.15a


Please read this: http://synchro. net/docs/ tcpip_faq. html#bind

-Rob

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul
To: synchronet@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 11:26 AM
Subject: [synchronet] Re: Migrating from SBBS 4.14a to 4.15a

I WAS fine until I ran the 'Synchronet Configuration' door to remotely add a
door. As soon as I exited the config program, the Mail, FTP, and WEB servers
recycled with the following errors:
MAIL SERVER VVVVV
12/1 01:12:21p SMBLIB 2.51 (format 1.21)
12/1 01:12:21p WinSock 2.0 Running
12/1 01:12:21p Initializing on Tue Dec 01 13:12:21 2009 with options: 4
12/1 01:12:21p Loading configuration files from c:\sbbs\ctrl\
12/1 01:12:21p Temporary file directory: c:\sbbs\temp\
12/1 01:12:21p Reading c:\sbbs\ctrl\ mailproc. ini
12/1 01:12:21p Maximum clients: 10
12/1 01:12:21p Maximum inactivity: 120 seconds
12/1 01:12:21p 0836 SMTP socket opened
12/1 01:12:21p 0836 !ERROR 48 binding SMTP Server socket to port 25
12/1 01:12:21p 0836 !Another application or service may be using this port
12/1 01:12:21p #### Mail Server thread terminated (0 connections served, 0
messages received, 2 errors, 2 critcal)

FTP SERVER VVVV

12/1 01:10:44p 0508 FTP Server listening on port 210
12/1 01:10:44p 0508 FTP Server thread started
12/1 01:12:19p 0000 Recycle semaphore file (c:\sbbs\ctrl\ recycle) detected
12/1 01:12:19p 0508 Server socket closed (0 sockets in use) from line 4579
12/1 01:12:19p Recycling server...
12/1 01:12:21p Reading c:\sbbs\ctrl\ sbbs.ini
12/1 01:12:21p Synchronet FTP Server Revision 1.363
12/1 01:12:21p Compiled Nov 25 2009 05:06:40 with MSC 1200
12/1 01:12:21p WinSock 2.0 Running
12/1 01:12:21p Initializing on Tue Dec 01 13:12:21 2009 with options: 114
12/1 01:12:21p Loading configuration files from c:\sbbs\ctrl\
12/1 01:12:21p Temporary file directory: c:\sbbs\temp\
12/1 01:12:21p Maximum clients: 10
12/1 01:12:21p Passive Port Low: 1024
12/1 01:12:21p Passive Port High: 65535
12/1 01:12:21p Maximum inactivity: 300 seconds
12/1 01:12:21p 0536 FTP Server socket opened
12/1 01:12:21p 0536 !ERROR 48 binding FTP Server socket to port 210
12/1 01:12:21p 0536 !Another application or service may be using this port
12/1 01:12:21p 0536 Server socket closed (0 sockets in use) from line 4579
12/1 01:12:21p #### FTP Server thread terminated (0 clients served)

WEB SERVER VVVVV

12/1 01:10:44p 0508 FTP Server listening on port 210
12/1 01:10:44p 0508 FTP Server thread started
12/1 01:12:19p 0000 Recycle semaphore file (c:\sbbs\ctrl\ recycle) detected
12/1 01:12:19p 0508 Server socket closed (0 sockets in use) from line 4579
12/1 01:12:19p Recycling server...
12/1 01:12:21p Reading c:\sbbs\ctrl\ sbbs.ini
12/1 01:12:21p Synchronet FTP Server Revision 1.363
12/1 01:12:21p Compiled Nov 25 2009 05:06:40 with MSC 1200
12/1 01:12:21p WinSock 2.0 Running
12/1 01:12:21p Initializing on Tue Dec 01 13:12:21 2009 with options: 114
12/1 01:12:21p Loading configuration files from c:\sbbs\ctrl\
12/1 01:12:21p Temporary file directory: c:\sbbs\temp\
12/1 01:12:21p Maximum clients: 10
12/1 01:12:21p Passive Port Low: 1024
12/1 01:12:21p Passive Port High: 65535
12/1 01:12:21p Maximum inactivity: 300 seconds
12/1 01:12:21p 0536 FTP Server socket opened
12/1 01:12:21p 0536 !ERROR 48 binding FTP Server socket to port 210
12/1 01:12:21p 0536 !Another application or service may be using this port
12/1 01:12:21p 0536 Server socket closed (0 sockets in use) from line 4579
12/1 01:12:21p #### FTP Server thread terminated (0 clients served)

I am confident I applied the updated sbbs/exec files correctly. Here is my
'about' display:

Synchronet Terminal Server 3.15a SMBLIB 2.51 Compiled Nov 25 2009 05:06:15 with
MSC 1200
Synchronet Mail Server 1.508 SMBLIB 2.51 Compiled Nov 25 2009 05:06:52 with MSC
1200
Synchronet FTP Server 1.363 Compiled Nov 25 2009 05:06:40 with MSC 1200
Synchronet Web Server 1.519 Compiled Nov 25 2009 05:07:18 with MSC 1200
Synchronet Services 1.240 Compiled Nov 25 2009 05:07:15 with MSC 1200
Synchronet Control Panel v3.15.0.0 Compiled Nov 25 2009 05:08:44 with BCC 5.60
Synchronet Local Spy ANSI Terminal Emulation TEmulVT (c) 1996-2002 F. Piette
V2.19
JavaScript-C 1.7.0 2007-10-03 (c) 1998 Netscape Communications Corp.
Cryptlib v3.3.1.0 Copyright 1992-2006 Peter Gutmann. All rights reserved.

Please advise.
Thanks!
becksbbs.synchro. net

--- In synchronet@yahoogro ups.com, "Paul M. Becker" <beckerpm@.. .> wrote:
>
> After reading your reply, I did what I should have done before writing.  I
started over from scratch and re-installed the sbbs_dev.zip file.  Things are
working better now.  Thanks!
>
> -Beck
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: Rob Swindell <rob@...>
> To: synchronet@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Sun, November 22, 2009 4:16:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [synchronet] Migrating from SBBS 4.14a to 4.15a
>
> Â
> Assuming you're referring to v3.15a (in sbbs_dev.zip) , I'm unable to
reproduce any of what you've described. What's the date on the sbbs_dev.zip file
that you tried?
>
> -Rob
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul
> To: synchronet@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 5:12 AM
> Subject: [synchronet] Migrating from SBBS 4.14a to 4.15a
>
> Greetings,
>
> I attempted to upgrade to V4.15 on Nov. 19. I downloaded the latest upgrade
.zip file and unzipped into sbbs\exec specifying overlay.
>
> Everything appeared to be ok, but overnight the bbs came down and was not
running in the morning. I cannot find any clues to tell me what happened. I
checked logs, but nothing there. I assume it's a timed event.
>
> Also, when I update the bbs from the sbbs config door, when the bbs recycles
because of changes, the TCPIP apps fail (mail, web, ftp) indicating ports
already open. I have to recycle bbs.
>
> Any advice would be appreciated. I have gone back to 4.14 in the meantime.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Beck@becksbbs. synchro.net
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Please read this: http://synchro.net/docs/tcpip_faq.html#bind

-Rob

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Paul
   To: synchronet@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 11:26 AM
   Subject: [synchronet] Re: Migrating from SBBS 4.14a to 4.15a



   I WAS fine until I ran the 'Synchronet Configuration' door to remotely add a
door. As soon as I exited the config program, the Mail, FTP, and WEB servers
recycled with the following errors:
   MAIL SERVER VVVVV
   12/1 01:12:21p SMBLIB 2.51 (format 1.21)
   12/1 01:12:21p WinSock 2.0 Running
   12/1 01:12:21p Initializing on Tue Dec 01 13:12:21 2009 with options: 4
   12/1 01:12:21p Loading configuration files from c:\sbbs\ctrl\
   12/1 01:12:21p Temporary file directory: c:\sbbs\temp\
   12/1 01:12:21p Reading c:\sbbs\ctrl\mailproc.ini
   12/1 01:12:21p Maximum clients: 10
   12/1 01:12:21p Maximum inactivity: 120 seconds
   12/1 01:12:21p 0836 SMTP socket opened
   12/1 01:12:21p 0836 !ERROR 48 binding SMTP Server socket to port 25
   12/1 01:12:21p 0836 !Another application or service may be using this port
   12/1 01:12:21p #### Mail Server thread terminated (0 connections served, 0
messages received, 2 errors, 2 critcal)

   FTP SERVER VVVV

   12/1 01:10:44p 0508 FTP Server listening on port 210
   12/1 01:10:44p 0508 FTP Server thread started
   12/1 01:12:19p 0000 Recycle semaphore file (c:\sbbs\ctrl\recycle) detected
   12/1 01:12:19p 0508 Server socket closed (0 sockets in use) from line 4579
   12/1 01:12:19p Recycling server...
   12/1 01:12:21p Reading c:\sbbs\ctrl\sbbs.ini
   12/1 01:12:21p Synchronet FTP Server Revision 1.363
   12/1 01:12:21p Compiled Nov 25 2009 05:06:40 with MSC 1200
   12/1 01:12:21p WinSock 2.0 Running
   12/1 01:12:21p Initializing on Tue Dec 01 13:12:21 2009 with options: 114
   12/1 01:12:21p Loading configuration files from c:\sbbs\ctrl\
   12/1 01:12:21p Temporary file directory: c:\sbbs\temp\
   12/1 01:12:21p Maximum clients: 10
   12/1 01:12:21p Passive Port Low: 1024
   12/1 01:12:21p Passive Port High: 65535
   12/1 01:12:21p Maximum inactivity: 300 seconds
   12/1 01:12:21p 0536 FTP Server socket opened
   12/1 01:12:21p 0536 !ERROR 48 binding FTP Server socket to port 210
   12/1 01:12:21p 0536 !Another application or service may be using this port
   12/1 01:12:21p 0536 Server socket closed (0 sockets in use) from line 4579
   12/1 01:12:21p #### FTP Server thread terminated (0 clients served)

   WEB SERVER VVVVV

   12/1 01:10:44p 0508 FTP Server listening on port 210
   12/1 01:10:44p 0508 FTP Server thread started
   12/1 01:12:19p 0000 Recycle semaphore file (c:\sbbs\ctrl\recycle) detected
   12/1 01:12:19p 0508 Server socket closed (0 sockets in use) from line 4579
   12/1 01:12:19p Recycling server...
   12/1 01:12:21p Reading c:\sbbs\ctrl\sbbs.ini
   12/1 01:12:21p Synchronet FTP Server Revision 1.363
   12/1 01:12:21p Compiled Nov 25 2009 05:06:40 with MSC 1200
   12/1 01:12:21p WinSock 2.0 Running
   12/1 01:12:21p Initializing on Tue Dec 01 13:12:21 2009 with options: 114
   12/1 01:12:21p Loading configuration files from c:\sbbs\ctrl\
   12/1 01:12:21p Temporary file directory: c:\sbbs\temp\
   12/1 01:12:21p Maximum clients: 10
   12/1 01:12:21p Passive Port Low: 1024
   12/1 01:12:21p Passive Port High: 65535
   12/1 01:12:21p Maximum inactivity: 300 seconds
   12/1 01:12:21p 0536 FTP Server socket opened
   12/1 01:12:21p 0536 !ERROR 48 binding FTP Server socket to port 210
   12/1 01:12:21p 0536 !Another application or service may be using this port
   12/1 01:12:21p 0536 Server socket closed (0 sockets in use) from line 4579
   12/1 01:12:21p #### FTP Server thread terminated (0 clients served)

   I am confident I applied the updated sbbs/exec files correctly. Here is my
'about' display:

   Synchronet Terminal Server 3.15a SMBLIB 2.51 Compiled Nov 25 2009 05:06:15
with MSC 1200
   Synchronet Mail Server 1.508 SMBLIB 2.51 Compiled Nov 25 2009 05:06:52 with
MSC 1200
   Synchronet FTP Server 1.363 Compiled Nov 25 2009 05:06:40 with MSC 1200
   Synchronet Web Server 1.519 Compiled Nov 25 2009 05:07:18 with MSC 1200
   Synchronet Services 1.240 Compiled Nov 25 2009 05:07:15 with MSC 1200
   Synchronet Control Panel v3.15.0.0 Compiled Nov 25 2009 05:08:44 with BCC 5.60
   Synchronet Local Spy ANSI Terminal Emulation TEmulVT (c) 1996-2002 F. Piette
V2.19
   JavaScript-C 1.7.0 2007-10-03 (c) 1998 Netscape Communications Corp.
   Cryptlib v3.3.1.0 Copyright 1992-2006 Peter Gutmann. All rights reserved.

   Please advise.
   Thanks!
   becksbbs.synchro.net

   --- In synchronet@yahoogroups.com, "Paul M. Becker" <beckerpm@...> wrote:
   >
   > After reading your reply, I did what I should have done before writing.  I
started over from scratch and re-installed the sbbs_dev.zip file.  Things are
working better now.  Thanks!
   >
   > -Beck
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > ________________________________
   > From: Rob Swindell <rob@...>
   > To: synchronet@yahoogroups.com
   > Sent: Sun, November 22, 2009 4:16:31 PM
   > Subject: Re: [synchronet] Migrating from SBBS 4.14a to 4.15a
   >
   > Â
   > Assuming you're referring to v3.15a (in sbbs_dev.zip) , I'm unable to
reproduce any of what you've described. What's the date on the sbbs_dev.zip file
that you tried?
   >
   > -Rob
   >
   > ----- Original Message -----
   > From: Paul
   > To: synchronet@yahoogro ups.com
   > Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 5:12 AM
   > Subject: [synchronet] Migrating from SBBS 4.14a to 4.15a
   >
   > Greetings,
   >
   > I attempted to upgrade to V4.15 on Nov. 19. I downloaded the latest upgrade
.zip file and unzipped into sbbs\exec specifying overlay.
   >
   > Everything appeared to be ok, but overnight the bbs came down and was not
running in the morning. I cannot find any clues to tell me what happened. I
checked logs, but nothing there. I assume it's a timed event.
   >
   > Also, when I update the bbs from the sbbs config door, when the bbs recycles
because of changes, the TCPIP apps fail (mail, web, ftp) indicating ports
already open. I have to recycle bbs.
   >
   > Any advice would be appreciated. I have gone back to 4.14 in the meantime.
   >
   > Thank you!
   >
   > Beck@becksbbs. synchro.net
   >
   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
   >





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I WAS fine until I ran the 'Synchronet Configuration' door to remotely add a
door. As soon as I exited the config program, the Mail, FTP, and WEB servers
recycled with the following errors:
MAIL SERVER VVVVV
12/1  01:12:21p  SMBLIB 2.51 (format 1.21)
   12/1  01:12:21p  WinSock 2.0 Running
   12/1  01:12:21p  Initializing on Tue Dec 01 13:12:21 2009 with options: 4
   12/1  01:12:21p  Loading configuration files from c:\sbbs\ctrl\
   12/1  01:12:21p  Temporary file directory: c:\sbbs\temp\
   12/1  01:12:21p  Reading c:\sbbs\ctrl\mailproc.ini
   12/1  01:12:21p  Maximum clients: 10
   12/1  01:12:21p  Maximum inactivity: 120 seconds
   12/1  01:12:21p  0836 SMTP socket opened
   12/1  01:12:21p  0836 !ERROR 48 binding SMTP Server socket to port 25
   12/1  01:12:21p  0836 !Another application or service may be using this port
   12/1  01:12:21p  #### Mail Server thread terminated (0 connections served, 0
messages received, 2 errors, 2 critcal)

FTP SERVER VVVV

12/1  01:10:44p  0508 FTP Server listening on port 210
   12/1  01:10:44p  0508 FTP Server thread started
   12/1  01:12:19p  0000 Recycle semaphore file (c:\sbbs\ctrl\recycle) detected
   12/1  01:12:19p  0508 Server socket closed (0 sockets in use) from line 4579
   12/1  01:12:19p  Recycling server...
   12/1  01:12:21p  Reading c:\sbbs\ctrl\sbbs.ini
   12/1  01:12:21p  Synchronet FTP Server Revision 1.363
   12/1  01:12:21p  Compiled Nov 25 2009 05:06:40 with MSC 1200
   12/1  01:12:21p  WinSock 2.0 Running
   12/1  01:12:21p  Initializing on Tue Dec 01 13:12:21 2009 with options: 114
   12/1  01:12:21p  Loading configuration files from c:\sbbs\ctrl\
   12/1  01:12:21p  Temporary file directory: c:\sbbs\temp\
   12/1  01:12:21p  Maximum clients: 10
   12/1  01:12:21p  Passive Port Low: 1024
   12/1  01:12:21p  Passive Port High: 65535
   12/1  01:12:21p  Maximum inactivity: 300 seconds
   12/1  01:12:21p  0536 FTP Server socket opened
   12/1  01:12:21p  0536 !ERROR 48 binding FTP Server socket to port 210
   12/1  01:12:21p  0536 !Another application or service may be using this port
   12/1  01:12:21p  0536 Server socket closed (0 sockets in use) from line 4579
   12/1  01:12:21p  #### FTP Server thread terminated (0 clients served)

WEB SERVER VVVVV

12/1  01:10:44p  0508 FTP Server listening on port 210
   12/1  01:10:44p  0508 FTP Server thread started
   12/1  01:12:19p  0000 Recycle semaphore file (c:\sbbs\ctrl\recycle) detected
   12/1  01:12:19p  0508 Server socket closed (0 sockets in use) from line 4579
   12/1  01:12:19p  Recycling server...
   12/1  01:12:21p  Reading c:\sbbs\ctrl\sbbs.ini
   12/1  01:12:21p  Synchronet FTP Server Revision 1.363
   12/1  01:12:21p  Compiled Nov 25 2009 05:06:40 with MSC 1200
   12/1  01:12:21p  WinSock 2.0 Running
   12/1  01:12:21p  Initializing on Tue Dec 01 13:12:21 2009 with options: 114
   12/1  01:12:21p  Loading configuration files from c:\sbbs\ctrl\
   12/1  01:12:21p  Temporary file directory: c:\sbbs\temp\
   12/1  01:12:21p  Maximum clients: 10
   12/1  01:12:21p  Passive Port Low: 1024
   12/1  01:12:21p  Passive Port High: 65535
   12/1  01:12:21p  Maximum inactivity: 300 seconds
   12/1  01:12:21p  0536 FTP Server socket opened
   12/1  01:12:21p  0536 !ERROR 48 binding FTP Server socket to port 210
   12/1  01:12:21p  0536 !Another application or service may be using this port
   12/1  01:12:21p  0536 Server socket closed (0 sockets in use) from line 4579
   12/1  01:12:21p  #### FTP Server thread terminated (0 clients served)


I am confident I applied the updated sbbs/exec files correctly. Here is my
'about' display:

Synchronet Terminal Server 3.15a  SMBLIB 2.51  Compiled Nov 25 2009 05:06:15
with MSC 1200
Synchronet Mail Server 1.508  SMBLIB 2.51  Compiled Nov 25 2009 05:06:52 with
MSC 1200
Synchronet FTP Server 1.363  Compiled Nov 25 2009 05:06:40 with MSC 1200
Synchronet Web Server 1.519  Compiled Nov 25 2009 05:07:18 with MSC 1200
Synchronet Services 1.240  Compiled Nov 25 2009 05:07:15 with MSC 1200
Synchronet Control Panel v3.15.0.0  Compiled Nov 25 2009 05:08:44 with BCC 5.60
Synchronet Local Spy ANSI Terminal Emulation TEmulVT (c) 1996-2002 F. Piette
V2.19
JavaScript-C 1.7.0 2007-10-03 (c) 1998 Netscape Communications Corp.
Cryptlib v3.3.1.0 Copyright 1992-2006 Peter Gutmann. All rights reserved.

Please advise.
Thanks!
becksbbs.synchro.net



--- In synchronet@yahoogroups.com, "Paul M. Becker" <beckerpm@...> wrote:
>
> After reading your reply, I did what I should have done before writing.  I
started over from scratch and re-installed the sbbs_dev.zip file.  Things are
working better now.  Thanks!
>
> -Beck
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Rob Swindell <rob@...>
> To: synchronet@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, November 22, 2009 4:16:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [synchronet] Migrating from SBBS 4.14a to 4.15a
>
>  
> Assuming you're referring to v3.15a (in sbbs_dev.zip) , I'm unable to
reproduce any of what you've described. What's the date on the sbbs_dev.zip file
that you tried?
>
> -Rob
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul
> To: synchronet@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 5:12 AM
> Subject: [synchronet] Migrating from SBBS 4.14a to 4.15a
>
> Greetings,
>
> I attempted to upgrade to V4.15 on Nov. 19. I downloaded the latest upgrade
.zip file and unzipped into sbbs\exec specifying overlay.
>
> Everything appeared to be ok, but overnight the bbs came down and was not
running in the morning. I cannot find any clues to tell me what happened. I
checked logs, but nothing there. I assume it's a timed event.
>
> Also, when I update the bbs from the sbbs config door, when the bbs recycles
because of changes, the TCPIP apps fail (mail, web, ftp) indicating ports
already open. I have to recycle bbs.
>
> Any advice would be appreciated. I have gone back to 4.14 in the meantime.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Beck@becksbbs. synchro.net
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

After reading your reply, I did what I should have done before writing.  I
started over from scratch and re-installed the sbbs_dev.zip file.  Things are
working better now.  Thanks!

-Beck




________________________________
From: Rob Swindell <rob@...>
To: synchronet@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, November 22, 2009 4:16:31 PM
Subject: Re: [synchronet] Migrating from SBBS 4.14a to 4.15a

 
Assuming you're referring to v3.15a (in sbbs_dev.zip) , I'm unable to reproduce
any of what you've described. What's the date on the sbbs_dev.zip file that you
tried?

-Rob

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul
To: synchronet@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 5:12 AM
Subject: [synchronet] Migrating from SBBS 4.14a to 4.15a

Greetings,

I attempted to upgrade to V4.15 on Nov. 19. I downloaded the latest upgrade .zip
file and unzipped into sbbs\exec specifying overlay.

Everything appeared to be ok, but overnight the bbs came down and was not
running in the morning. I cannot find any clues to tell me what happened. I
checked logs, but nothing there. I assume it's a timed event.

Also, when I update the bbs from the sbbs config door, when the bbs recycles
because of changes, the TCPIP apps fail (mail, web, ftp) indicating ports
already open. I have to recycle bbs.

Any advice would be appreciated. I have gone back to 4.14 in the meantime.

Thank you!

Beck@becksbbs. synchro.net

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Assuming you're referring to v3.15a (in sbbs_dev.zip), I'm unable to reproduce
any of what you've described. What's the date on the sbbs_dev.zip file that you
tried?

-Rob

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Paul
   To: synchronet@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 5:12 AM
   Subject: [synchronet] Migrating from SBBS 4.14a to 4.15a



   Greetings,

   I attempted to upgrade to V4.15 on Nov. 19. I downloaded the latest upgrade
.zip file and unzipped into sbbs\exec specifying overlay.

   Everything appeared to be ok, but overnight the bbs came down and was not
running in the morning. I cannot find any clues to tell me what happened. I
checked logs, but nothing there. I assume it's a timed event.

   Also, when I update the bbs from the sbbs config door, when the bbs recycles
because of changes, the TCPIP apps fail (mail, web, ftp) indicating ports
already open. I have to recycle bbs.

   Any advice would be appreciated. I have gone back to 4.14 in the meantime.

   Thank you!

   Beck@...





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Greetings,

I attempted to upgrade to V4.15 on Nov. 19.  I downloaded the latest upgrade
.zip file and unzipped into sbbs\exec specifying overlay.

Everything appeared to be ok, but overnight the bbs came down and was not
running in the morning.  I cannot find any clues to tell me what happened.  I
checked logs, but nothing there.  I assume it's a timed event.

Also, when I update the bbs from the sbbs config door, when the bbs recycles
because of changes, the TCPIP apps fail (mail, web, ftp) indicating ports
already open. I have to recycle bbs.

Any advice would be appreciated.  I have gone back to 4.14 in the meantime.

Thank you!

Beck@...

>I believe there is a 4.08 beta, but I'm not sure where you get it.  Are you
>running the 16-bit version? The 32-bit version will definitely behave better,
>but I believe the IGM support is limited to none.
>
at http://eob-bbs.com/lord48/

---
Rob Starr
Lord Time SysOp of
Time Warp of the Future BBS
Telnet://Time.Synchro.Net:24
ICQ # 11868133 or # 70398519
Yahoo : lordtime2000  AIM : LordTime20000  MSN : Lord Time
Jabber : lordtime2000@...   Astra : lord_time

It's the 16 bit version, since I'd kind of wanted to leave the option
for IGMs open. I'll give the 32 bit version a try and see if it makes a
difference.

Scott

Rob Swindell wrote:
> I believe there is a 4.08 beta, but I'm not sure where you get it.  Are you
running the 16-bit version? The 32-bit version will definitely behave better,
but I believe the IGM support is limited to none.
>
> -Rob
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Scott Holder
>   To: synchronet@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 9:40 PM
>   Subject: Re: [synchronet] LORD and LORD alone running slowly
>
>
>
>   I'm using the latest version 4.0.7 available from http://
>   lord.lordlegacy.com/downloads/index.php . Is there a newer/different
>   version than that? I don't have any IGMs running yet, so it's just
>   the straight game.
>
>   Since my original message, I've had four simultaneous Trade Wars
>   users with two Gold custom Alien AI servers running with no
>   noticeable slowdown to the users (one was me, so I had a good
>   reference ;) ), so I'm pretty sure now that the box itself is beefy
>   enough to run plenty.
>
>   Thanks,
>   Scott
>
>   On Nov 10, 2009, at 11:23 PM, Rob Swindell wrote:
>
>   > Try upgrading to a newer version of LORD. Older versions of LORD
>   > were notoriously bad CPU time-slice hogs.
>   >
>   > -Rob

I believe there is a 4.08 beta, but I'm not sure where you get it.  Are you
running the 16-bit version? The 32-bit version will definitely behave better,
but I believe the IGM support is limited to none.

-Rob

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Scott Holder
   To: synchronet@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 9:40 PM
   Subject: Re: [synchronet] LORD and LORD alone running slowly



   I'm using the latest version 4.0.7 available from http://
   lord.lordlegacy.com/downloads/index.php . Is there a newer/different
   version than that? I don't have any IGMs running yet, so it's just
   the straight game.

   Since my original message, I've had four simultaneous Trade Wars
   users with two Gold custom Alien AI servers running with no
   noticeable slowdown to the users (one was me, so I had a good
   reference ;) ), so I'm pretty sure now that the box itself is beefy
   enough to run plenty.

   Thanks,
   Scott

   On Nov 10, 2009, at 11:23 PM, Rob Swindell wrote:

   > Try upgrading to a newer version of LORD. Older versions of LORD
   > were notoriously bad CPU time-slice hogs.
   >
   > -Rob
   >
   > ----- Original Message -----
   > From: scoth42
   > To: synchronet@yahoogroups.com
   > Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 8:30 PM
   > Subject: [synchronet] LORD and LORD alone running slowly
   >
   >
   >
   > Got a BBS going on a nice vintage Pentium 233MMX running Win98.
   > LORD was the first door I got running, and it ran terribly slowly.
   > I figured it was the slow box, but went ahead and got several other
   > doorgames going (TW2002, OOII, LOD, etc). And... they all run
   > nearly or completely perfectly smoothly. So there's something about
   > LORD specifically that's making it run terribly slowly. Anyone run
   > into this and have any idea what might be doing it?
   >
   > I have it set up to use Fossil, and it's currently telnet-only.
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
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   >
   >
   >
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   >
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   > Slow Reading: http://freelance-academy.org To unsubscribe by
   > e-mail, mailto:synchronet-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
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   >
   >
   >





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I'm using the latest version 4.0.7 available from http://
lord.lordlegacy.com/downloads/index.php . Is there a newer/different
version than that? I don't have any IGMs running yet, so it's just
the straight game.

Since my original message, I've had four simultaneous Trade Wars
users with two Gold custom Alien AI servers running with no
noticeable slowdown to the users (one was me, so I had a good
reference ;) ), so I'm pretty sure now that the box itself is beefy
enough to run plenty.

Thanks,
Scott

On Nov 10, 2009, at 11:23 PM, Rob Swindell wrote:

> Try upgrading to a newer version of LORD. Older versions of LORD
> were notoriously bad CPU time-slice hogs.
>
> -Rob
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: scoth42
>   To: synchronet@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 8:30 PM
>   Subject: [synchronet] LORD and LORD alone running slowly
>
>
>
>   Got a BBS going on a nice vintage Pentium 233MMX running Win98.
> LORD was the first door I got running, and it ran terribly slowly.
> I figured it was the slow box, but went ahead and got several other
> doorgames going (TW2002, OOII, LOD, etc). And... they all run
> nearly or completely perfectly smoothly. So there's something about
> LORD specifically that's making it run terribly slowly. Anyone run
> into this and have any idea what might be doing it?
>
>   I have it set up to use Fossil, and it's currently telnet-only.
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> This is one of the  lists sponsored by The Free Lance Academy, home of
> Slow Reading:  http://freelance-academy.org  To unsubscribe by
> e-mail, mailto:synchronet-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

See the second question in the FAQ:

http://synchro.net/docs/v3cfgfaq.txt

-Rob

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: wiizzeen
   To: synchronet@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 5:45 AM
   Subject: [synchronet] Getting set to deploy - Huzzah!



   okay, I have used Synchronet in the past on my home computer. The problem was,
of course, that I wanted to shut it down for playing games and maintenance and
so forth. So I never had a reliable BBS.

   Now I have a server (dedicated) that I rent in a datacenter. It runs Windows
Server 2008 64 bit edition.

   I have searched the group for issues related to server 2008 and I have found a
few, such as be sure to use the Synchronet FTP software for internal transfers.
(I am allocating 1 whole IP to Synchronet, so I can still use its FTP on port
21).

   Just wondering if there are any other pitfalls/advice/notes that the group can
provide to me that would make the process go more smoothly. The actual attempt
at rollout is not scheduled for about 3 weeks, so I have time to plan and gather
information.

   The only real reason I want to run this BBS is for the Door game BRE. I bought
a license ages ago when I ran a POTS based BBS outa my dorm room and running a
telnet BBS with BRE on it is a bit of nostalgia. Although this time I might
actually get online for message bases as well.

   Cheers,
   Brent





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Try upgrading to a newer version of LORD. Older versions of LORD were
notoriously bad CPU time-slice hogs.

-Rob

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: scoth42
   To: synchronet@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 8:30 PM
   Subject: [synchronet] LORD and LORD alone running slowly



   Got a BBS going on a nice vintage Pentium 233MMX running Win98. LORD was the
first door I got running, and it ran terribly slowly. I figured it was the slow
box, but went ahead and got several other doorgames going (TW2002, OOII, LOD,
etc). And... they all run nearly or completely perfectly smoothly. So there's
something about LORD specifically that's making it run terribly slowly. Anyone
run into this and have any idea what might be doing it?

   I have it set up to use Fossil, and it's currently telnet-only.





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At 02:08 AM 11/11/2009, you wrote:
>I had a few minor issues at the beginning, but I've been running on
>windows 2k8 without issue for some time now.  Although I think I'm
>on the 32 bit edition.  You may have some issues, especially with
>Door games.  I'm sure someone else will have a better answer for that.
>
>But as far as Sync running on 2k8, nothing but solid.

One thing to keep in mind is that a 64 bit OS can't run 16 bit
applications (including DOS apps), because of how the processor is
used when running 64 bit OSs.  WHen AMD designed the 64 bit mode,
they looked for things to throw out, and segment registers were high
on that list.  This doesn't affect most (if not all) 32 bit software,
but it does stop 16 bit software from running.  The only way I can
think of  around this is virtualisation, so that the 16 bit software
is running under a 16 or 32 bit OS (inside a hypervisor under the 64
bit OS).  Not sure how you'd manage controlling all of that from Synchronet.

The 16 bit under 64 bit issue also occasionally bites when trying to
install 32 bit software that uses an old 16 bit installer.  The
installer simply won't run, and Windows throws up an error message.

73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com

I had a few minor issues at the beginning, but I've been running on windows 2k8
without issue for some time now.  Although I think I'm on the 32 bit edition. 
You may have some issues, especially with Door games.  I'm sure someone else
will have a better answer for that.

But as far as Sync running on 2k8, nothing but solid.

---Alex

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: wiizzeen
   To: synchronet@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 8:45 AM
   Subject: [synchronet] Getting set to deploy - Huzzah!



   okay, I have used Synchronet in the past on my home computer. The problem was,
of course, that I wanted to shut it down for playing games and maintenance and
so forth. So I never had a reliable BBS.

   Now I have a server (dedicated) that I rent in a datacenter. It runs Windows
Server 2008 64 bit edition.

   I have searched the group for issues related to server 2008 and I have found a
few, such as be sure to use the Synchronet FTP software for internal transfers.
(I am allocating 1 whole IP to Synchronet, so I can still use its FTP on port
21).

   Just wondering if there are any other pitfalls/advice/notes that the group can
provide to me that would make the process go more smoothly. The actual attempt
at rollout is not scheduled for about 3 weeks, so I have time to plan and gather
information.

   The only real reason I want to run this BBS is for the Door game BRE. I bought
a license ages ago when I ran a POTS based BBS outa my dorm room and running a
telnet BBS with BRE on it is a bit of nostalgia. Although this time I might
actually get online for message bases as well.

   Cheers,
   Brent





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