----- Original Message -----
From: "Morbus Iff" <morbus@...>
To: <syndication@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [syndication] XML-RPC and the Need to Cash In
I'm about to be sacrilegious, I suppose. Other people may call it inept. I've also got to preface this with a few notes (in Dave Winer style): - "I love...
Morbus Iff
morbus@...
Aug 25, 2001 12:09 am
Morbus, +1 There was a nice thread here for a while about evangelising RSS, getting the word out, etc. I like that. I want to make it easy for anyone to say...
Mark Nottingham
mnot@...
Aug 25, 2001 12:56 am
... I definitely agree with this. How long ago did Berners-Lee think of the Semantic Web? And only until recently have people "come back" to those ideals....
Morbus Iff
morbus@...
Aug 25, 2001 2:05 am
In article <20010824175609.B2251@...>, Mark Nottingham <mnot@...> writes ... Don't break up the group and splinter it. Both groups will die. Get a...
Julian Bond
julian_bond@...
Aug 25, 2001 7:04 am
... Heh. I can't help but think you illustrate Morbus' point perfectly; you want people to use the technology proactively to solve their problems; many are not...
Mark Nottingham
mnot@...
Aug 25, 2001 6:44 pm
Could you summarize the point you're making without all the ad hominems. Dave...
Dave Winer
dave@...
Aug 25, 2001 2:05 am
I think he's saying that there are just too many "moving parts" involved in what we do, and that we have to make it simpler, easier to use, and more reliable. ...
Jeff Barr
jeff@...
Aug 25, 2001 2:14 am
Yeah, software sucks, his too. An example [1]. Dave [1] http://128.241.244.96/portal/uploads/27000/27549_winrg.swf ... From: "Jeff Barr" <jeff@...> ...
Dave Winer
dave@...
Aug 25, 2001 2:19 am
... Well, hey, at least I gave examples ;) ... -- Morbus Iff ( i am your scary godmother ) http://www.disobey.com/ && http://www.gamegrene.com/ please me:...
Morbus Iff
morbus@...
Aug 25, 2001 2:22 am
OK, Amphetadesk sucks. ;-> Dave ... From: "Morbus Iff" <morbus@...> To: <syndication@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 7:22 PM Subject:...
Dave Winer
dave@...
Aug 25, 2001 2:23 am
... i could certainly be wrong, but i think that dave may have been driving at the 'cloud' stuff in rss 0.92. you subscribe your client (which is also a...
Jim Winstead
jimw-yahoo@...
Aug 25, 2001 3:44 am
Jim, you got it exactly right, including the Sturgeon's Law part. I wrote my own piece about this a few years back [1]. BTW, I finally got a demo of...
Dave Winer
dave@...
Aug 25, 2001 2:27 pm
... Indeed, I do, Dave. From the history of AmphetaDesk [1]: "Because of my growing interest in RSS and syndication in general, I had become a regular reader...
Morbus Iff
morbus@...
Aug 25, 2001 6:26 pm
Sorry about the long delay in responses. ... Only a very little. I don't think Radio Userland is crap - for the geek crowd, it's a powerful little app that can...
Morbus Iff
morbus@...
Aug 29, 2001 11:46 pm
In article <p05101008b7ac84e889be@[63.173.138.134]>, Morbus Iff <morbus@...> writes ... You can see my blogged response to this wonderful rant at ...
Julian Bond
julian_bond@...
Aug 25, 2001 6:25 am
... Here's an idea I had a long time ago: if someone is linking to something you've already read, don't display that entry (or relegate it to lower status). --...
Aaron Swartz
aswartz@...
Aug 26, 2001 5:22 am
... Well, the problem with browser based systems like Radio Userland and AmphetaDesk is that you can't determine what someone has read, unless tell you, like...
Morbus Iff
morbus@...
Aug 26, 2001 1:38 pm
... For desktop apps, how about looking at the user's Web browser history files, to figure out whether they've visited it via some other route? Offhand I don't...
Dan Brickley
daniel.brickley@...
Aug 26, 2001 2:24 pm
... That would be a rather interesting idea. Lemme check on my Mac (rummages): IE 5.1 (mac) stores the History in bookmark format in ~/System...
Morbus Iff
morbus@...
Aug 30, 2001 12:18 am
... All Dublin Core elements (including dc:date) can be used on just about anything (including channels, items, images, etc.). There's also dc:source, which...
Aaron Swartz
aswartz@...
Aug 31, 2001 6:54 pm
... Equating "displayed in the browser" with "read" would be good enough for some uses--admittedly, reducing redundancy isn't one of them. If I've seen a bare...
Mark Paschal
markpasc@...
Aug 26, 2001 3:26 pm
We could solve this problem in Radio (and probably Amphetadesk as well) by redirecting through a url implemented on the local machine that keeps a list of all...
Dave Winer
dave@...
Aug 26, 2001 6:07 pm
... From: "Mark Paschal" <markpasc@...> To: <syndication@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 5:24 PM Subject: [syndication] Re: XML-RPC...
selm
baker@...
Aug 26, 2001 10:30 pm
Oh come on guys, this is the "XML syndication" list, where we all get together and discuss the *technical* aspects (primarily anyway) behind syndicating...
dave.cantrell@...
Aug 27, 2001 3:38 pm
... I don't understand - in a browser, you can specify the display style of links that have been visited. If the article has been viewed, the link looks...
Mike Dierken
mike@...
Aug 28, 2001 5:58 pm
... links that have been visited. ... blue underscore .vs. purple underscore. ... this if you write your own UI? ... yourself? Mike, That is one part of the...
dave.cantrell@...
Aug 28, 2001 6:19 pm
I've found one solution to this problem. Novobot keeps local cache of displayed headlines, and each channel has its own expiration day count, after which its...
Gleb Dolgich
glebd@...
Aug 28, 2001 7:26 pm
... My problem with that [1] is that we're assuming too much about user activity. I know a book writer who loads up AmphetaDesk in the morning, and then goes...
Morbus Iff
morbus@...
Aug 28, 2001 8:08 pm
I think I have an answer for that, too. Novobot not just displays headlines, it saves them in another ("current") cache, which is preserved between runs. And...
Gleb Dolgich
glebd@...
Aug 28, 2001 10:35 pm
... Gleb, I was thinking about the exact same approach. To be honest, any sort of scheme like this will have to do a brute-force search against a list of ...
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