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Re: [syndication] Re: Thoughts, questions, and issues.   Message List  
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Re: [syndication] Re: Thoughts, questions, and issues.

Paulo, the force comes from the choice of the RSS 1.0 name. Doesn't leave
much wiggle room. Dave




Wed Aug 16, 2000 7:18 pm

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... http://scriptingnews.userland.com/backissues/2000/08/16 Dave, I'll ask you one more time. Can you please tell us what exactly is wrong with the RSS 1.0...
Aaron Swartz
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Aug 16, 2000
8:50 pm

Paulo, the force comes from the choice of the RSS 1.0 name. Doesn't leave much wiggle room. Dave...
Dave Winer
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Aug 16, 2000
7:23 pm

Well, I am more interested in defending the principles of extensibility and namespace use (WHERE/WHEN NECESSARY) that the draft itself. I am far from knowing...
Paulo Gaspar
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Aug 16, 2000
8:30 pm

... RDF 1.0 is based on RDF 0.9, not 0.91, which had rdf:RDF as the root element -- so it's there for backwards-compatibility. ... Again,...
Aaron Swartz
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Aug 16, 2000
8:39 pm

Let's get it on the Web so other people can have a look. Dave ... From: "Aaron Swartz" <aswartz@...> To: <syndication@egroups.com> Sent: Wednesday,...
Dave Winer
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Aug 16, 2000
7:36 pm

... Sure thing: http://my.theinfo.org/rss/newversion.xml -- Aaron Swartz |"This information is top security. <http://swartzfam.com/aaron/>| When...
Aaron Swartz
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Aug 16, 2000
7:38 pm

... ... Any RSS 0.9 or 0.91 source may be viewed as RSS 1.0 on-the-fly using Guha's handy-dandy RSS2RDF at: http://purl.org/rss/1.0/convert Rael ... Rael...
Rael Dornfest
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Aug 16, 2000
7:45 pm

You'll see where I'm going in Radio UserLand. It's not just because the "proposal" is written by geeks for geeks, and that most of the content worth ...
Dave Winer
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Aug 16, 2000
9:00 pm

Dave, As a fervent admirer and user of Userland's Frontier, I am appalled by your posts to this list. For a guy with a 'flame retardent policy' your tone and ...
Per Kreipke
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Aug 16, 2000
10:12 pm

... I must apologize, I asked Dave to come out and say what he really felt, and he did. I appreciate that. If you don't, don't listen to him. ... Dave never...
Aaron Swartz
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Aug 16, 2000
10:31 pm

I'm a lurker on this list. I'm not a technical person, though I can program well enough for my own purposes in three or four different languages (and don't...
Lynn Siprelle
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Aug 16, 2000
11:18 pm

I curious as to the thoughts of others on this list to the points that Lynn brought up. Perhaps her post got lost in the flurry of messages that we all...
zac
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Aug 20, 2000
10:16 pm

... http://www.egroups.com/message/syndication/445 I think the answer from the RSS-DEV people (I'm sort of guessing, correct me if I'm wrong) is that the...
Aaron Swartz
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Aug 20, 2000
11:04 pm

... Let me be a little more clear. I am a writer *and* I am a programmer. Writing comes first; I program when I have a need, not because it's k001 (though it...
Lynn Siprelle
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Aug 21, 2000
3:44 am

... I'm so sorry -- I tried to stay away from that, but I guess I didn't do too good of a job. I have nothing but respect for you, Lynn. I love your site and...
Aaron Swartz
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Aug 21, 2000
4:14 am

... These sorts of assumptions are self fulfilling to a degree. If you write a spec assuming that some users won't interact with it then they won't. This...
zac
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Aug 21, 2000
4:27 am

... It's true, and I maintain that the new spec is for more technical usage than the older one. For real heavy-duty use, it will require some understanding of...
Aaron Swartz
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Aug 21, 2000
1:30 pm

... That answers my question. I guess my partner and I will be developing a simpler format for our project on our own. Thanks, Aaron! Lynn -- Siprelle &...
Lynn Siprelle
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Aug 21, 2000
5:33 pm

... Well if you can try staying with an older version of the RSS format. It will give you access to more syndication system than if you create your own format....
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Aug 21, 2000
5:35 pm

... We wanted to include a little more information than .91 allows. We might just go with SN format, or any of the other ones littering the landscape. :) Or we...
Lynn Siprelle
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Aug 21, 2000
5:45 pm

That's fine. But I'm going to keep going. I'm tired of debating this stuff. I've been having a lot of fun in the last couple of months, and it's only been in...
Dave Winer
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Aug 16, 2000
10:19 pm

... Heh, Hoisted by my own hyperbole! My apologies, Dave, 'apalled' was too strong a word. How about dismayed or disappointed? I understand getting fed up with...
Per Kreipke
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Aug 17, 2000
3:38 pm

... The RSS1 proposal tries to serve multiple masters using a single XML syntactic representation. It is very close to being syntactically equivalent to RSS09...
Gabe Beged-Dov
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Aug 17, 2000
2:16 am

... Too many masters. ... Id does NOT LOOK like RSS that much. ... That seems to be the main problem: RDF focus. RSS became a popular format with people that...
Paulo Gaspar
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Aug 17, 2000
10:59 am

... That's not true. The authors were clearly _very_ concerned about backwards compatibility. There's a lot of junk in the spec that I'd like to see taken out,...
Aaron Swartz
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Aug 17, 2000
1:49 pm

Howdy, ... There are just a few simple mechanical additions to add the RDF syntactic sugar needed for those in the RDF world to join the wonderful world of ...
Rael Dornfest
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Aug 17, 2000
8:17 pm

I'm cross-posting to rss-dev. It would be great if this thread continued there, but there may not be good intersection at the moment... ... The inchannel and...
Gabe Beged-Dov
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Aug 17, 2000
5:20 am

... This is true. If there are processors that are broken, I think it would be helpful for this group to know about it so we can provide fixes or perhaps...
Jonathan Eisenzopf
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Aug 17, 2000
9:32 pm

... Yes; in fact it should be online next week. Rael reports that you can give it RSS 1.0, and it will spit out 0.91. I'll add an option that give users the...
Jonathan Eisenzopf
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Aug 21, 2000
1:04 am

... This is an interesting issue that I'd like to hear more opinions on. I think the goal is to make it simple for those crafting XML by hand and extensible...
Jonathan Eisenzopf
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Aug 21, 2000
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