thx Dave Haupt and your cool stuff, i'll still waiting for the new
version out :)
--- In syntheditusers@yahoogroups.com, "dhaupt72" <dave@d...> wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I've reproduced the crash, and will put out a fix as soon as I can.
> Sorry for any inconvenience.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Dave Haupt
>
>
> --- In syntheditusers@yahoogroups.com, "ds_shan" <ds_shan@y...>
> wrote:
> > UD-reverb 1.33 has bug need fix it ,when i back to old version,it
> all
> > working !!!!!!
> > best regard
> > >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Hi again,
UD-Reverb V1.3.4 is now available at
http://www.dehaupt.com/SynthEdit/semodules.htm#reverb
Cheers,
Dave
--- In syntheditusers@yahoogroups.com, "ds_shan" <ds_shan@y...>
wrote:
> thx Dave Haupt and your cool stuff, i'll still waiting for the
new
> version out :)
>
>
> --- In syntheditusers@yahoogroups.com, "dhaupt72" <dave@d...>
wrote:
> > Hello All,
> >
> > I've reproduced the crash, and will put out a fix as soon as I
can.
> > Sorry for any inconvenience.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Dave Haupt
> >
> >
> > --- In syntheditusers@yahoogroups.com, "ds_shan" <ds_shan@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > UD-reverb 1.33 has bug need fix it ,when i back to old
version,it
> > all
> > > working !!!!!!
> > > best regard
> > > >
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> wow ,its faster !!!! i'll try it now !
--- In syntheditusers@yahoogroups.com, "David Haupt" <dave@d...>
wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> UD-Reverb V1.3.4 is now available at
> http://www.dehaupt.com/SynthEdit/semodules.htm#reverb
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
>
> --- In syntheditusers@yahoogroups.com, "ds_shan" <ds_shan@y...>
> wrote:
> > thx Dave Haupt and your cool stuff, i'll still waiting for the
> new
> > version out :)
> >
> >
> > --- In syntheditusers@yahoogroups.com, "dhaupt72" <dave@d...>
> wrote:
> > > Hello All,
> > >
> > > I've reproduced the crash, and will put out a fix as soon as I
> can.
> > > Sorry for any inconvenience.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Dave Haupt
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In syntheditusers@yahoogroups.com, "ds_shan" <ds_shan@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > UD-reverb 1.33 has bug need fix it ,when i back to old
> version,it
> > > all
> > > > working !!!!!!
> > > > best regard
> > > > >
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I've been playing around alot with the new Sub-Controls graphics
stuff and I'm really really liking it. Now i ain't no graphics artist
or anything but I'm finally feeling it's possible to take SE stuff
one step further interface wise. Cheers Jeff, jo rewl! ;)
www.majken.se/subduer.jpg <-- yay, screenshot. Now this is just part
of the interface, the part that's almost done actually.
2 osc subtractive synth with ringmod, distortion, multimode filter,
host syncable lfo's, modulation envelopes and what not.
I'll yell when she's about finished so people can start test driving
her :)
/Majken
NOW UD-Reverb 1.3.4 Works fine, cpu expend is best sounds is
perfect!!
i found a little problem with mix value -5 to -4.8 have
small "beep"sounds, in last i changed it on -4.99 to +5 hehe£¡i
heard the clean sounds !!
i'm inspire :))))))))
thank you!
best regard
ds_shan / from china
-------------------
--- In syntheditusers@yahoogroups.com, "ds_shan" <ds_shan@y...> wrote:
> > wow ,its faster !!!! i'll try it now !
>
> --- In syntheditusers@yahoogroups.com, "David Haupt" <dave@d...>
> wrote:
> > Hi again,
> >
> > UD-Reverb V1.3.4 is now available at
> > http://www.dehaupt.com/SynthEdit/semodules.htm#reverb
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > --- In syntheditusers@yahoogroups.com, "ds_shan" <ds_shan@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > thx Dave Haupt and your cool stuff, i'll still waiting for the
> > new
> > > version out :)
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In syntheditusers@yahoogroups.com, "dhaupt72" <dave@d...>
> > wrote:
> > > > Hello All,
> > > >
> > > > I've reproduced the crash, and will put out a fix as soon as
I
> > can.
> > > > Sorry for any inconvenience.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Dave Haupt
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In syntheditusers@yahoogroups.com, "ds_shan"
<ds_shan@y...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > UD-reverb 1.33 has bug need fix it ,when i back to old
> > version,it
> > > > all
> > > > > working !!!!!!
> > > > > best regard
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I've been playing around alot with the new Sub-Controls graphics stuff and I'm really really liking it. Now i ain't no graphics artist or anything but I'm finally feeling it's possible to take SE stuff one step further interface wise. Cheers Jeff, jo rewl! ;)
www.majken.se/subduer.jpg <-- yay, screenshot. Now this is just part of the interface, the part that's almost done actually.
2 osc subtractive synth with ringmod, distortion, multimode filter, host syncable lfo's, modulation envelopes and what not.
I'll yell when she's about finished so people can start test driving her :)
Microsoft receives the patent for the "Doppelklick"
US software producer Microsoft has patented the 'Doppelklick'.
This mouse technology is also repeatedly used with the operating system
'Windows'.
Rene
Doppelklick = double click
Sorry Rene
On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 13:34:34 +0700, Rene <rene2@...> wrote:
>
> Microsoft receives the patent for the "Doppelklick"
> US software producer Microsoft has patented the 'Doppelklick'.
> This mouse technology is also repeatedly used with the operating system
> 'Windows'.
>
> Rene
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
double-vision ;-)
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From: "Rene" <rene2@...>
To: <syntheditusers@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: [syntheditusers] Now the horror begins...
> Doppelklick = double click
>
> Sorry Rene
And what is the connection between this and Synthedit ?
--- In syntheditusers@yahoogroups.com, Rene <rene2@s...> wrote:
>
> Microsoft receives the patent for the "Doppelklick"
> US software producer Microsoft has patented the 'Doppelklick'.
> This mouse technology is also repeatedly used with the operating
system
> 'Windows'.
>
> Rene
> And what is the connection between this and Synthedit ?
Microsoft could patent the cables that run between containers
and the containers itself.
Or the graphic keyboard, and, and, and ....
Patents are NOT about WHO had the idea first but who got the
patent first.
Scary shit.
And again only the big boys have the money to do so.
In clear, if you use a DOUBLE CLICK in your VST,
MS has the right to claim a license fee.
Cheers Rene
> --- In syntheditusers@yahoogroups.com, Rene <rene2@s...> wrote:
>>
>> Microsoft receives the patent for the "Doppelklick"
>> US software producer Microsoft has patented the 'Doppelklick'.
>> This mouse technology is also repeatedly used with the operating
> system
>> 'Windows'.
>>
>> Rene
>
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Hi all,
Well, that`s it! Finally it's aviable the new vesrion of our web with
our first VSTi.
You can download it at:
http://www.elektronicabcn.com
We wait for your comments and suggestions, would be so much
appreciated! (We know that the skin needs some improvement, but it's
our first time in photoshop...)
Thanx in advance and have fun!
Sample Technologies
http://www.elektronicabcn.com
Microsoft is a bitch.
They have so mouch money they don't ever have to work anymore.
I don't care if they have patent for the electrons in my lamp.
Microsoft needs its ass kicked, they've went toooo far.
Laters.
--- In syntheditusers@yahoogroups.com, Rene <rene2@s...> wrote:
> > And what is the connection between this and Synthedit ?
>
> Microsoft could patent the cables that run between containers
> and the containers itself.
> Or the graphic keyboard, and, and, and ....
>
> Patents are NOT about WHO had the idea first but who got the
> patent first.
>
> Scary shit.
>
> And again only the big boys have the money to do so.
>
> In clear, if you use a DOUBLE CLICK in your VST,
> MS has the right to claim a license fee.
>
> Cheers Rene
>
>
> > --- In syntheditusers@yahoogroups.com, Rene <rene2@s...> wrote:
> >>
> >> Microsoft receives the patent for the "Doppelklick"
> >> US software producer Microsoft has patented the 'Doppelklick'.
> >> This mouse technology is also repeatedly used with the operating
> > system
> >> 'Windows'.
> >>
> >> Rene
> >
> >
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Naw I won't call them a bitch. They are one or the most superextreme
capitalistic and market killing companies ever seen they do THEIR job
well... Too good IMHO
My cynic 2 cents ;)
So? Who pays Microsofts license fees anyhow? :)
--- In syntheditusers@yahoogroups.com, Rene <rene2@s...> wrote:
> > And what is the connection between this and Synthedit ?
>
> Microsoft could patent the cables that run between containers
> and the containers itself.
> Or the graphic keyboard, and, and, and ....
>
> Patents are NOT about WHO had the idea first but who got the
> patent first.
>
> Scary shit.
>
> And again only the big boys have the money to do so.
>
> In clear, if you use a DOUBLE CLICK in your VST,
> MS has the right to claim a license fee.
>
> Cheers Rene
>
>
> > --- In syntheditusers@yahoogroups.com, Rene <rene2@s...> wrote:
> >>
> >> Microsoft receives the patent for the "Doppelklick"
> >> US software producer Microsoft has patented the 'Doppelklick'.
> >> This mouse technology is also repeatedly used with the operating
> > system
> >> 'Windows'.
> >>
> >> Rene
> >
> >
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hi cyoungs23,
i like your module. It simplifies making an FM synth.
keep up the good work!
oli
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Think I will patent the 'wheel'.
As in, all wheels, everywhere!!! :)
EVM
--- In syntheditusers@yahoogroups.com, Rene <rene2@s...> wrote:
>
> http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?
Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=5
0&s1=6,727,830.WKU.&OS=PN/6,727,830&RS=PN/6,727,830
>
>
> Full link
>
> :(
> Rene
Right, I had the same idea ! :)))
Rene
On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 15:33:34 -0000, evmsynths2000
<no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> Think I will patent the 'wheel'.
> As in, all wheels, everywhere!!! :)
>
> EVM
>
> --- In syntheditusers@yahoogroups.com, Rene <rene2@s...> wrote:
>>
>> http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?
> Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=5
> 0&s1=6,727,830.WKU.&OS=PN/6,727,830&RS=PN/6,727,830
>>
>>
>> Full link
>>
>> :(
>> Rene
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or you could patent the idea of patents. then whenever someone patents
something, you get scrilla... and when they get their money from their
patents, you can take a portion of that. like a pyramid scheme w/ only you
at the top heh.
çentipede
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rene" <rene2@...>
To: <syntheditusers@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: [syntheditusers] Re: The patent
> Right, I had the same idea ! :)))
>
> Rene
>
> On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 15:33:34 -0000, evmsynths2000
> <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> > Think I will patent the 'wheel'.
> > As in, all wheels, everywhere!!! :)
> >
> > EVM
> >
> > --- In syntheditusers@yahoogroups.com, Rene <rene2@s...> wrote:
> >>
> >> http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?
> > Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=5
> > 0&s1=6,727,830.WKU.&OS=PN/6,727,830&RS=PN/6,727,830
> >>
> >>
> >> Full link
> >>
> >> :(
> >> Rene
> >
> >
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Subject: Re: [syntheditusers] New file uploaded to syntheditusers
hi cyoungs23,
i like your module. It simplifies making an FM synth.
keep up the good work!
oli
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i was thinking of creating this totally arbitrary means of representation
called 'exscrote;' applying an excrote value to anything in commerce.. the
cool thing is that you're never left with half a chicken when your mate has
got five refrigerators, but since excrote has no innate value, the
representation of concrete objects and thoughts can be dynamised. i'm
thinking this could be a bit of right mischief, say no nore, especially when
people realise that all they really need is excrote, cos it doesn't exist.
lol and people think i'm off my donkey ass
let's have a competition to see who can pay the highest license fee for
synthedit.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Orguss" <orgusstf@...>
To: <syntheditusers@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: [syntheditusers] Re: The patent
> or you could patent the idea of patents. then whenever someone patents
> something, you get scrilla... and when they get their money from their
> patents, you can take a portion of that. like a pyramid scheme w/ only you
> at the top heh.
>
>
> çentipede
> http://macrossrdf.port5.com
> http://centipillar.port5.com
> http://artist.amazon.com/centipillar
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rene" <rene2@...>
> To: <syntheditusers@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 9:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [syntheditusers] Re: The patent
>
>
> > Right, I had the same idea ! :)))
> >
> > Rene
> >
> > On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 15:33:34 -0000, evmsynths2000
> > <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Think I will patent the 'wheel'.
> > > As in, all wheels, everywhere!!! :)
> > >
> > > EVM
> > >
> > > --- In syntheditusers@yahoogroups.com, Rene <rene2@s...> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?
> > > Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=5
> > > 0&s1=6,727,830.WKU.&OS=PN/6,727,830&RS=PN/6,727,830
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Full link
> > >>
> > >> :(
> > >> Rene
> > >
> > >
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> or you could patent the idea of patents.
hehe :-) I like that thought.
Well, the real morons in this case isn't Microsoft.
It's the weirdo's at the patent office allowing Microsoft to get away with
nonsense like that.
At least we now know who invented the doubleclick. It says it right
there...inventors Lui, Charlton E. and Blum, Jeffrey R.
Now...who did actually invent the left direction on my joystick?
...hurray.
Rune
anyone notice how many patents Adobe Acrobat has registered to it. just pop
open its about screen, they go on and on
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rune Lund-Hermansen" <otiumfx@...>
To: <syntheditusers@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: [syntheditusers] Re: The patent
> > or you could patent the idea of patents.
>
> hehe :-) I like that thought.
>
> Well, the real morons in this case isn't Microsoft.
> It's the weirdo's at the patent office allowing Microsoft to get away with
> nonsense like that.
>
> At least we now know who invented the doubleclick. It says it right
> there...inventors Lui, Charlton E. and Blum, Jeffrey R.
>
> Now...who did actually invent the left direction on my joystick?
>
> ...hurray.
>
> Rune
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
> anyone notice how many patents Adobe Acrobat has registered to it. just
pop
> open its about screen, they go on and on
heh, you haven't been on this list long if you think that's going on and on
:P :)
getting lax, imo synthedit's big enuff to walk, been on solid foods for a
while. 1.0!!!! 1.0!!!! 1.0!!!!
----- Original Message -----
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lol - actually i have been on it for some time - used to get a compiled list
of messages, just recently switched to individual emails and ung, i know
what you mean. i signed up a while ago when i was gonna learn synthedit..
but i got distracted by other projects. am now building a modular dj app in
vb when that is done i will dive into vst/vsti development and synthedit in
earnest (in between actually making music hopefully heh)
çentipede
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From: "rurik leffanta" <plattermatic@...>
To: <syntheditusers@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [syntheditusers] Re: The patent
> > anyone notice how many patents Adobe Acrobat has registered to it. just
> pop
> > open its about screen, they go on and on
>
> heh, you haven't been on this list long if you think that's going on and
on
>
> :P :)
>
> getting lax, imo synthedit's big enuff to walk, been on solid foods for a
> while. 1.0!!!! 1.0!!!! 1.0!!!!
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It might be a nice synth but I'll never know! The
second I found I couldn't back-button off of your
page I shut down my browser and I won't go back. I
hate that crap!
Tom
> Hi all,
>
> Well, that`s it! Finally it's aviable the new vesrion of our web
with
> our first VSTi.
>
> You can download it at:
>
> http://www.elektronicabcn.com
>
>
> We wait for your comments and suggestions, would be so much
> appreciated! (We know that the skin needs some improvement, but it's
> our first time in photoshop...)
>
> Thanx in advance and have fun!
>
> Sample Technologies
> http://www.elektronicabcn.com
.......and three words - 'dial up users'
DC
--- efmsynth <e4m@...> wrote:
> It might be a nice synth but I'll never know! The
> second I found I couldn't back-button off of your
> page I shut down my browser and I won't go back. I
> hate that crap!
>
> Tom
>
>
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Well, that`s it! Finally it's aviable the new vesrion of our web
> with
> > our first VSTi.
> >
> > You can download it at:
> >
> > http://www.elektronicabcn.com
> >
> >
> > We wait for your comments and suggestions, would be so much
> > appreciated! (We know that the skin needs some improvement, but
> it's
> > our first time in photoshop...)
> >
> > Thanx in advance and have fun!
> >
> > Sample Technologies
> > http://www.elektronicabcn.com
>
>
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