Dear TagMaps users

TagMaps will be offline on March 4 and 5 (PDT) while we upgrade our
servers and move them to a different facility. You will not be able to
use the TagMaps website, tag API or flash badge during this time.
Normal service will be resumed on March 6, 2009. We apologize for any
inconvenience that this may cause.

Happy TagMapping
TagMaps Team
http://tagmaps.research.yahoo.com

Thanks for the fast reply!

> Great question and great idea! The way we get images from Flickr in
> the TagMaps application, right now, ...

> a. Get the tags for each region/zoom level using the TagMaps API
> http://developer.yahoo.com/yrb/tagmaps/
> b. Get (however many) images for each tag on the map using a
> text-and-bounding-box query from Flickr:
> http://flickr.com/services/api/flickr.photos.search.html
> c. Sort the photos however way you like :)

I was hoping of jumping from (a) to (c) with the specific images that
TagMaps has recognized as relevant to that tag.  At least from
appearances in the flash app, it seems that the number (and quality)
of images that appear for a specific tag seem to have been refined
from what I might find by doing a direct tag search via the Flickr
interface.  Is this true or are my expectations just lower because I'm
used to unassisted browsing by tags?

In another direction entirely, can you tell me if you do any
correlation between the tags suggested by TagMaps and the tags that
Flickr seems to statistically predict with it's "getRelated" function?
(sorry I would provide the exact url for clarity, but it seems the
interface is down)  By this I'm wondering if you leverage the tags
that you've found from one geographical area in TagMaps versus the
tags that may be statistically related to give the smaller list that
appears when I hover over an area.  If not, how _do_ you create that
smaller list of suggested tags ;) ?

Thanks again and I look forward to working with this great data.

Eric

Great question and great idea! The way we get images from Flickr in
the TagMaps application, right now, is pretty "dull": we just use the
Flickr API to get photos with the selected tag from the immediate tag
area (using Flickr search API you can specify a bounding-box-and-text
query). So, what you'd want to do it:
a. Get the tags for each region/zoom level using the TagMaps API
http://developer.yahoo.com/yrb/tagmaps/
b. Get (however many) images for each tag on the map using a
text-and-bounding-box query from Flickr:
http://flickr.com/services/api/flickr.photos.search.html
c. Sort the photos however way you like :)

Does this make sense? Good luck, and let us know what happened!
Also, I am sure you are aware of the TagMaps widget you can use to
re-create the tagmaps experience? It's also available from
http://developer.yahoo.com/yrb/tagmaps/

Mor

p.s. You may want to check our publication page where we were playing
with similar ideas using image analysis:
http://yahooresearchberkeley.com/blog/category/publications/ (see "How
Flickr Help us...").





--- In tagmaps@yahoogroups.com, "quin0ne" <ezsomething@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Great work on this problem, kudos to your entire team.  It's apparent
> that your system does a great job of cleaning up/removing extraneous
> images from flickr and provides a more succinct view of a
> location-based tag.
>
> Is it possible to get a data API call that will retrieve the relevant
> images for a tag -- after they've been processed by TagMaps?  I am
> looking at research steps to re-order these images to get exactly what
> a user is interested in and perhaps glean a little more information
> about relevant tags from this visual cluster.
>
> I'm trying to analyze how we can improve tag recommendation based on
> TagMaps for a specific tag either with a content (image) analysis or
> tag frequency analysis.  Unfortunately, I can't access the image IDs
> that popup in the handy flash explorer.  So far, it looks like I have
> to go back to the unstructured flickr data and start the process
> myself (yuck!).  Is there a way to get to these images over the API?
> I can't count the ways that this could help improve location-based
search.
>
> Thanks for any advice!
> Eric
>

Hi,

Great work on this problem, kudos to your entire team.  It's apparent
that your system does a great job of cleaning up/removing extraneous
images from flickr and provides a more succinct view of a
location-based tag.

Is it possible to get a data API call that will retrieve the relevant
images for a tag -- after they've been processed by TagMaps?  I am
looking at research steps to re-order these images to get exactly what
a user is interested in and perhaps glean a little more information
about relevant tags from this visual cluster.

I'm trying to analyze how we can improve tag recommendation based on
TagMaps for a specific tag either with a content (image) analysis or
tag frequency analysis.  Unfortunately, I can't access the image IDs
that popup in the handy flash explorer.  So far, it looks like I have
to go back to the unstructured flickr data and start the process
myself (yuck!).  Is there a way to get to these images over the API?
I can't count the ways that this could help improve location-based search.

Thanks for any advice!
Eric

Cool - definitely let us know when you have something up!

--- In tagmaps@yahoogroups.com, Popescu Adrian <popescu_adi@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> We already considered the quick fix solution and this
> is what we are going to do. Even with ASCII support,
> TagMaps is really a great tool. Thanks for making it
> available!
> Adrian
>
>
>
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Hello,
We already considered the quick fix solution and this
is what we are going to do. Even with ASCII support,
TagMaps is really a great tool. Thanks for making it
available!
Adrian



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Hey Adrian! Yes, we have noticed that this is the case. For now, it
seems like we don't do a good job supporting unicode characters.
Unfortunately, I am not sure when we'll be able to fix that - stay
tuned... Quick fix is to map non-ASCII to ASCII (Château =>
Chateau)... I know, it sucks :(

Mor

--- In tagmaps@yahoogroups.com, "Adrian Popescu" <popescu_adi@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I am trying to develop an application based on TagMaps and I would
> like to know if it is possible to display non-ASCII characters. I have
> tags containing other characters but these last seem to be simply
> ignored. For example Château de Versailles est affiché comme Chteau de
> Versailles.
> Thanks,
> Adrian
>

Hello,
I am trying to develop an application based on TagMaps and I would
like to know if it is possible to display non-ASCII characters. I have
tags containing other characters but these last seem to be simply
ignored. For example Château de Versailles est affiché comme Chteau de
Versailles.
Thanks,
Adrian

Could you give me some more info about the system on which you
encountered the problem?

OS, browser, flash version (if available)

Any sample page with the issue would be helpful too

Thanks
Rahul


--- In tagmaps@yahoogroups.com, "zippy_48" <zippy_48@...> wrote:
>
> I found that the map disappears when it's clicked and then a mouse
> scroll wheel is used.  With JS you get an error screen and must refresh
> the page.  With AS the map returns fairly quickly.  Try it on the
> examples in the API manuals.
>
> Is there a fix in the works?
>

I found that the map disappears when it's clicked and then a mouse
scroll wheel is used.  With JS you get an error screen and must refresh
the page.  With AS the map returns fairly quickly.  Try it on the
examples in the API manuals.

Is there a fix in the works?

Hi Patrick,

Good points.  We are working on that and have a solution that we are
testing out.  Please stay tuned.

Thanks!
Jeannie

--- In tagmaps@yahoogroups.com, "metade111" <metade@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I've been playing with the TagMaps API and I've started building a
demo with it. I'd really like
> to have images displayed when users highlight a tag, but I
understand that this functionality
> hasn't been released yet in the public version of the widget.
>
> Is it possible to somehow capture which tag is being higlighted,
e.g. using Javascript, so that
> I could then implement some other mechanism to display images for
that tag?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Patrick
>

Hi,

I've been playing with the TagMaps API and I've started building a demo with it.
I'd really like
to have images displayed when users highlight a tag, but I understand that this
functionality
hasn't been released yet in the public version of the widget.

Is it possible to somehow capture which tag is being higlighted, e.g. using
Javascript, so that
I could then implement some other mechanism to display images for that tag?

Thanks,

Patrick

Great, thanks Rahul.  Keep up the great work :)

-- In tagmaps@yahoogroups.com, "Rahul Nair" <rnair@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Mike
>
> The flickr.photos.search method
> (http://www.flickr.com/services/api/flickr.photos.search.html) in the
> Flickr API can take a bbox paramter that will return photographs
> within the specified bounding box.
>
> Regards
> Rahul Nair
> TagMaps Project Team
> Yahoo! Research Berkeley
>
>
>
> --- In tagmaps@yahoogroups.com, "Mike B" <farn0n@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, i'm using the API to get back a feed of tags, locations and their
> > relative text sizes.  How do I then get a list of public photos that
> > relate to those tags relative to location?  I can use the Flickr API
> > to pull public photos with world explorer tags but I don't think the
> > Flickr api takes location as an argument.  Does it?
> >
> > thanks!
> > -mike
> >
>

Hey Mike -

You're right - the embedded object currently does not link out to the
photos. We do use the embed as some kind of a teaser, of course, but
we thought it would be interesting for visitors to any page or blog,
even without the photos. Anyone can move around the map for NYC, for
example, to see the interesting tags that show up and understand the
area better.

See other questions on this group; hopefully this prototype will
evolve to allow anyone to use it for many different purposes, building
all kinds of visualizations and information services on top of the
embedded object.

Mor


> Thanks for the fast response. I did find MY mistake and fixed it, and
> the tags are showing.
>
> Now that I have it up there and the tags are showing, I am trying to
> figure out what exactly this will be good for. How do you get the
> information to display for the tags that are shown? I mouse over and
> click them and nothing happens.
>
> Is this just something that is to be used to get more visitors to
> your world explorer (which sometimes the pictures it displays on the
> side panel are so far off the panel you can't view them.
>
> Mike
>

Hi Mike

The flickr.photos.search method
(http://www.flickr.com/services/api/flickr.photos.search.html) in the
Flickr API can take a bbox paramter that will return photographs
within the specified bounding box.

Regards
Rahul Nair
TagMaps Project Team
Yahoo! Research Berkeley



--- In tagmaps@yahoogroups.com, "Mike B" <farn0n@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, i'm using the API to get back a feed of tags, locations and their
> relative text sizes.  How do I then get a list of public photos that
> relate to those tags relative to location?  I can use the Flickr API
> to pull public photos with world explorer tags but I don't think the
> Flickr api takes location as an argument.  Does it?
>
> thanks!
> -mike
>

Hi, i'm using the API to get back a feed of tags, locations and their
relative text sizes.  How do I then get a list of public photos that
relate to those tags relative to location?  I can use the Flickr API
to pull public photos with world explorer tags but I don't think the
Flickr api takes location as an argument.  Does it?

thanks!
-mike

--- In tagmaps@yahoogroups.com, "Rahul Nair" <rnair@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Mike
>
> It looks like you entered the TagMaps Data API as a custom data
source
> - TagMaps doesnt support authenticated RSS feeds as tag inputs which
> is why the tags were not loading correctly.
>
> If you'd like to use TagMaps as your tag source you should select
> 'World Explorer' as the XML data source on the badger page
> (http://developer.yahoo.com/yrb/tagmaps/badger.html) which will give
> you a working badge with TagMaps data.
>
> The following snippet should give you the result you were looking
for
> <object><embed
> src=http://tagmaps.research.yahoo.com/embed/TagMap_embed.swf?
tagapiurl=http%
3A//tagmaps.research.yahooapis.com/services/rest/taglookup.php&mapheig
ht=600&mapwidth=600&startingaddress=San%20Francisco%2C%
20CA&startinglat=28.3868698&startinglon=-
81.556835&zoomlevel=5&mapviewtype=hybrid&minfontsize=14&maxfontsize=45
&showphotos=1&searchtype=relevance&showprompt=1&bcookie=8g83k0p2n0uqk&
b=3&s=11
> width='600' height='600'></embed></object>
>
> Regards
> Rahul Nair
> TagMaps Project Team
> Yahoo! Research Berkeley
>

Thanks for the fast response. I did find MY mistake and fixed it, and
the tags are showing.

Now that I have it up there and the tags are showing, I am trying to
figure out what exactly this will be good for. How do you get the
information to display for the tags that are shown? I mouse over and
click them and nothing happens.

Is this just something that is to be used to get more visitors to
your world explorer (which sometimes the pictures it displays on the
side panel are so far off the panel you can't view them.

Mike

Hi There

Is there a Release timeline for the Flash Component to the Public aka
Flash Developers. To present customize Data, it would be necessary to
customize the Skin of the Application.

Greetings

David Urech

Hi Mike

It looks like you entered the TagMaps Data API as a custom data source
- TagMaps doesnt support authenticated RSS feeds as tag inputs which
is why the tags were not loading correctly.

If you'd like to use TagMaps as your tag source you should select
'World Explorer' as the XML data source on the badger page
(http://developer.yahoo.com/yrb/tagmaps/badger.html) which will give
you a working badge with TagMaps data.

The following snippet should give you the result you were looking for
<object><embed
src=http://tagmaps.research.yahoo.com/embed/TagMap_embed.swf?tagapiurl=http%3A//\
tagmaps.research.yahooapis.com/services/rest/taglookup.php&mapheight=600&mapwidt\
h=600&startingaddress=San%20Francisco%2C%20CA&startinglat=28.3868698&startinglon\
=-81.556835&zoomlevel=5&mapviewtype=hybrid&minfontsize=14&maxfontsize=45&showpho\
tos=1&searchtype=relevance&showprompt=1&bcookie=8g83k0p2n0uqk&b=3&s=11
width='600' height='600'></embed></object>

Regards
Rahul Nair
TagMaps Project Team
Yahoo! Research Berkeley

--- In tagmaps@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Hamilton" <mikescott8@...> wrote:
>
> I just found this stuff from a post over at www.DownloadSquad.com and
> quickly up a page on my site here:
> http://www.micemaps.net/dnn/USA/DisneyWorld/YahooTagMap/tabid/66/Default
> .aspx
>
> The problem is it just sits there saying "loading Tags". it does this
> on the page where you get the embed code too.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>

--- In tagmaps@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Hamilton" <mikescott8@...> wrote:
>
> I just found this stuff from a post over at www.DownloadSquad.com and
> quickly up a page on my site here:
>
http://www.micemaps.net/dnn/USA/DisneyWorld/YahooTagMap/tabid/66/Default
> .aspx
>
> The problem is it just sits there saying "loading Tags". it does this
> on the page where you get the embed code too.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>

More information...

so I had set the option on the embed page to "custom source" but url
was http://tagmaps.research.yahooapis.com/services/rest/taglookup.php?
minlat=28.3412518964369&maxlat=28.43246820620096&minlon=-
81.60867691040039&maxlon=-81.5049934387207&zoom=5&appid={removed}

I switched to "world Explorer" and the sample on the embed page loads
the tags.

Am going to go change the code on my page to the new code from the
embed page.

Mike

I just found this stuff from a post over at www.DownloadSquad.com and
quickly up a page on my site here:
http://www.micemaps.net/dnn/USA/DisneyWorld/YahooTagMap/tabid/66/Default
.aspx

The problem is it just sits there saying "loading Tags". it does this
on the page where you get the embed code too.

Thanks,
Mike

This mailing list is the place to discuss all things related to the
TagMaps APIs. TagMaps are a new way to visualize text on geographic
maps. They can be used to communicate key characteristics of
location-based data in an easy-to-understand way.

Our API documentation is available at
http://developer.yahoo.com/yrb/tagmaps/

On the off chance you've stumbled across this list without seeing our
web site, be sure to visit:
http://tagmaps.research.yahoo.com/

This site contains many demos of TagMaps technology and is a good way
to see the power of geospatial tags


Thanks,
Rahul Nair
TagMaps Project Team
Yahoo! Research Berkeley