Prague April 01, 1998 Dear Colleagues, Mr. Fairhurst has written of an interesting point in suggesting the impact of a small but friendly mass (ie., bird)...
Charles A. Ross
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Apr 1, 1998 11:19 am
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Prague April 01, 1998 Dear Colleagues, Mr. Fairhurst has written of an interesting point in suggesting the impact of a small but friendly mass (ie., bird)...
Charles A. Ross
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Apr 1, 1998 11:25 am
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I reduced the number of lists this message is sent to. If someone feels it is important to the missing lists, please forward it to them. Christian Huitema...
Francesco Potorti`
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Apr 1, 1998 11:37 am
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nghia PHAM writes: It can be shown that: Raw BER= 2E-2, ==> BER =2E-4 after inner FEC (with soft decision decoding) ==> BER<1E-11 after outer FEC decoding ...
Francesco Potorti`
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Apr 1, 1998 12:00 pm
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I think what I was trying to say, was that there is not just one type of satellite link, one satellite link power budget, one system design. Someone,...
G. Fairhurst
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Apr 1, 1998 2:08 pm
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... Actually not the case. The effect of advertising a big window is that you waste buffer space -- TCP will figure out that the link is low bandwidth and...
Craig Partridge
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Apr 1, 1998 6:19 pm
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Craig Partridge writes: ... Actually not the case. The effect of advertising a big window is that you waste buffer space -- TCP will figure out that the link...
Francesco Potorti`
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Apr 1, 1998 6:24 pm
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I know this conversation could carry us away from the technical issues, but... I just want to add that even in North America and Europe satellite service...
Maxim Zakurdaev
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Apr 1, 1998 6:54 pm
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... Actually, no... (!) For one thing, you are assuming that both ends of a transport connection are aware that they have a path including a long-delay path....
Eric Travis
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Apr 1, 1998 8:11 pm
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Cher Colleagues, Yes, that's the point!...with all due respect to our distinguished colleague, fried bird and rainfade do both cause degredation, "albeit not ...
Charles A. Ross
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Apr 1, 1998 8:31 pm
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The TCP-over-satellite group is misnamed. It should be called the TCP-over-large-bandwidth-delay-paths group. Many terrestrial paths now have bandwidth*delay...
Phil Karn
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Apr 1, 1998 8:49 pm
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This responds Nghia Pham's comments about the DVB standard. In the international space exploration community, we also use a concatenated ...
Adrian J. Hooke
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Apr 1, 1998 9:36 pm
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Phil, Yes, this really is a TCP problem. The classic objections to end to end solutions are: 1) Both systems need to be able to handle long windows. No...
Christian Huitema
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Apr 1, 1998 10:07 pm
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Hi, ... On Tuesday March 17, Microsoft released a new TCP/IP protocol stack for Windows 95, called Windows Sockets 2. Here's the URL of Microsoft's Winsock 2...
Michael Roden
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Apr 1, 1998 10:59 pm
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I fully agree. TCP window advertisements are supposed to show how much buffer space the receiver has available. The receiver should not have to artificially...
Phil Karn
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Apr 1, 1998 11:23 pm
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Much of the recent traffic in the TCPSAT WG has been concerned with the error rates of satellite links. There seem to be a school of thought that satellite...
Lynch, Tom
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Apr 2, 1998 6:26 am
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In response to Tom Lynch, I feel maybe we're getting somewhere now, since I helped fuel this line of thought, I thought I'd try to ... I think you could...
G. Fairhurst
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Apr 2, 1998 4:41 pm
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Hello Forum, I have been following the forum for a while and do not actually have any "hands on" satellite experience but I try to keep current on things ...
Tony Hughes
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Apr 2, 1998 5:39 pm
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Most current satellites are "bent pipe" repeaters - that is totally passive. This is certainly the case for the Orion satellites, of which I am most aware....
Liebowitz, Burt
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Apr 2, 1998 8:07 pm
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[Phil Karn wrote:] ... It seems to me that, since the sender uses incoming ACKs to clock out its data packets, the rate of ACKs from the receiver will act as a...
Peter Warren
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Apr 2, 1998 9:46 pm
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Tom, The issue of spoofing was discussed at the TCPSAT meeting this week (IETF, LA) and it is planned to create a separate document for TCP spoofing becuase it...
Matthew Halsey
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Apr 2, 1998 9:54 pm
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Phil, ... I agree - but have always thought that it should have been TCP-over-emerging-environments (as there are also issues related to asymmetry,...
Eric Travis
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Apr 2, 1998 10:37 pm
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Tom, ... eliminate ... (I'm responding mostly to your statement about "missing one big point") I think you are misinterpreting or deprecating the significance...
Eric Travis
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Apr 2, 1998 10:59 pm
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I did research on Iridium in college and know that they DO have onboard routing between satellite to satellite and satellite to ground station. I do not...
Tony Hughes
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Apr 2, 1998 11:04 pm
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Gee, what a great opportunity to guess how TCP works in front of experts, but: I thought the problem with advertising windows that are "too large" is that (at...
Spencer Dawkins
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Apr 3, 1998 3:32 am
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[ Note: I composed this last week in response to Adrian Hook's message, but for some reason did not send it. I'm sending it now, but it may be a little out...
Tim Shepard
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Apr 3, 1998 3:47 am
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... Speaking as a wireless person, I actually *agree* that many radio environments are "crappy" and should be cleaned up without hacking TCP. I do not oppose...
Phil Karn
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Apr 3, 1998 6:40 am
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... Just a quick clarification... TCPSAT is not writing such a document. There is talk of having a BOF at the next IETF meeting. But, I think that it has...
Mark Allman
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Apr 3, 1998 4:14 pm
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[Spencer Dawkins:] ... This is normal sender congestion-control behavior after the slow-start phase. Whether it's unsuccessful depends on the state of network...
Peter Warren
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Apr 3, 1998 6:44 pm
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Let me first say that, while tweaking TCP to perform better in long BW-delay environments is certainly helpful, I believe that TCP spoofing/proxying will ...